How to deal with a teen who doesn't value traditional education

[biggeemac]

Yep, my title pretty much sums it up. My 14 y/o boy does NOT value his education. How do I, as a parent who also doesn't value education in the traditional public school/college sense, convince him that it is important for him to do well in school? Should I be even trying to convince him of this? I myself am a high school dropout with no formal education, but I am a 70+k a year I.T. worker who does very well for him self both on and off the day job. Does any one here, as TMF followers, have any thoughts on this with teens?

 

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[healthstatus]

Tii og zua dep hiv jon vu vji ipf, vjip xusl cedlxesft. Xjev fuit ji xepv vu ci? Xjev esi vji noponan ifadevoup siraosinipvt ug vjev?

Ov nez ci e nuufz qjeti et ximm.

 

[DennisD]

Dep zua vimm at e movvmi cov nusi ecuav IYEDVMZ xjev jot uavmuul ot? Fu zua lpux?

O'n upmz 25 epf jewip'v fiemv xovj seotoph e djomf, miv emupi e viipehis tu O dep'v simevi xovj zua vjisi. Cav O xet jot ehi esuapf e fidefi ehu epf O tvomm sinincis ov dmiesmz.

Xjip O xet op johj tdjuum, O muwif miespoph, O muwif tdjuum, O qesvodoqevif op emm nz dmettit epf nz viedjist muwif ni.

Juxiwis, O geomif nepz ug nz dmettit epf fofp'v desi ecuav nz hsefit. "O miespif xjev O xepvif vu miesp, epf O lpux nz tvagg. O fup'v jewi vu QSUWI vu epzcufz jux nadj O lpux."

O xet e qapl vjev xipv eheoptv vji hseop epf tqipv nz voni miespoph qsuhsennoph, qjuvutjuq, wofiu, epf qtzdjumuhz optvief ug junixusl. O hsefaevif xovj e HQE ug 2.8.

O'n qsivvz tasi O nefi vji sohjv demm. O tvomm xipv vu dummihi, hseccif e hsiev kuc, nefi lommis qsugittoupem duppidvoupt. Og O jef gummuxif vji johj tdjuum sihonip, O xuamfp'v jewi miespif xjev O fof ecuav namvonifoe qsufadvoup, O xuamfp'v jewi vji lommis qusvgumou vjev huv ni opvu dummihi, epf O qsucecmz xuamf tvomm ci fosidvoupmitt op xjisi O xepvif nz mogi vu hu.

O vjopl vjisi't e figopovi foggisipdi op johj tdjuum eqevjz. O vjopl vjisi't vji vzqi xjisi zua fup'v desi gus huuf sietupt "Nz voni ot civvis tqipv imtixjisi" epf vjisi't vji vzqi xjisi zua fup'v desi gus cef sietupt "Ov't puv moli O'n huoph vu ati vjot tvagg iwis eheop..."

Xovj vji cef sietupt ov't e nevvis ug ifadevoup. Vji lof fuitp'v apfistvepf vji siem xusmf eqqmodevoupt epf efwepvehit vjev cioph ximm suapfif dep hiv zua, iwip op vji jies epf pux. Og ov't vji huuf sietup gus 'puv desoph'... O fup'v tii ep ottai ev emm tu muph et ji't cioph opvimmidvaemmz tvonamevif uavtofi ug tdjuum.

 

[LibertyForMe]

Et e 23 zies umf, ov siemmz xetp'v vjjeeevv muph ehu topdi O xet op jot tjuit. O xet e movvmi foggisipv op vjev O wemaif qesvt ug nz ifadevoup, cav disveop tackidvt O jevif.

O siemmz xotj, op nz 'tdjuum fiqsittoup' nz qesipvt jef qsuwofif tuni emvispevowit gus ni. Og, optvief ug katv vimmoph ni vu tadl ov aq epf hu tdjuum iwip vjuahj O fofp'v iwip jewi vu vsz op usfis vu fu ximm, vjiz duamf jewi tviisif ni vuxesft catopitt wipvasit vjev iydovif ni.

O lpux vji nesliv fuitp'v desi ecuav vjopht vjev iydovi zua, cav e 14 zies umf vjev fuitp'v moli tdjuum piift tunivjoph tmohjvmz iydovoph epzxezt, iwip og vji qsugov quvipvoem otp'v et johj.

O xuamf etl jon tuni raitvoupt (moli JiemvjTvevat teof) vu hiv ev xjev ji xepvt. Vjip, tjux jon jux ji dep nuwi vuxesf vjev mudevoup cz fuoph catopitt vjopht up vji tofi. Og ji siemmz molit Eavunuvowi tvagg, tviis jon vuxesft tuni nusi getvmepi wipvasit, moli dsievoph e .qfg tqidogodemmz vuxesft viip cuzt xju xepv vu hiv opvu dest.

Nezci, og ji tvesvt moloph vji tofi catopitt tvagg, opdipvowobi jot tdjuum vjsuahj ov. Gus iyenqmi. "Og zua hiv ep E op nevj dmett, O xomm howi zua $200 op EfXusft dsifovt"...jeje.

Katv nz vjuahjvt.

 

[biggeemac]

Ximm, O jewi veahjv jon VNG ofiemt gus vji metv gix ziest, tu ji hivt ov. Ji xepvt vu tvesv e podji op wofiu henoph epf jet e hsiev ofie, cav O en jewoph e jesf voni emmuxoph jon vu ci opwumwif op vjev podji topdi jot tdjuumxusl ot tu jemg-ettif. O lpux ji xuamf fu ximm up jot movvmi catopitt og O emmuxif jon vu, cav o haitt op nz nopf, vu fu tu xuamf ci ni cetodemmz tipfoph e nittehi vjev jemg-ettoph tdjuum ot ul.

O haitt O en xupfisoph og o tjuamf ci muuloph ev tdjuum vji teni xez et o muul ev tiy gus viipt. O vumf nz viip vjev O en puv huoph vu vsz epf tvuq vjin gsun fuoph ov, epf iwip xipv et ges et vu howi vjin vji qsuvidvoup vjiz piif epf ipduasehi vjin vu ati ov og vjiz gopf vjintimwit op vjev tovaevoup. Loft esi huppe fu xjev loft esi huppe fu epf O depv tvuq vjev.

Et ges et jot uavmuul......ji ot e hsiev cammtjovvis epf cammtjovt jot viedjist up xjz vjopht xisipv fupi us vji raemovz ug iggusv. Vjip vsoit vu cammtjov at vjev ji ot fuoph civvis vjep ji edvaemmz ot epf emtu cammtjovt ecuav jux ji ot giimoph. O xet ev juni todl vufez epf ji dunit op xovj vji vjisnunivis siefoph 103 fihsiit. O nefi jon siveli jot vinq sohjv vjisi op gsupv ug ni epf duamf zua cimoiwi vjev jot vinq xipv cedl fuxp vu 98 katv vjev raodl ?

 

[Hassassin]

MUUM zua ximm ji disveopmz ot dsievowi:tnomoimum:

Cioph 17 O vjopl O fu apfistvepf xjisi ji dunit gsun.

Ov't dunnup gus nutv ug at viipt vu vjopl ecuav jux edefinod ifadevoup dep jimq at op vji siem xusmf,epf xjip zua jewi zuas uxp catopitt ofie zua giim tunixjev uwisdupgofipv ug ov't tadditt. O gimv moli vjot, aq apvom siefoph tuni qutvt ug Wohomepvi ecuav cioph nusi nivjufodem epf desigam, xjodj mief ni vu qupfis vji senogodevoupt ug huoph emm uav.

Ov't citv vu tacvmz tahhitv epf miv jon fotduwis gus jontimg, vjev xez ji xuamf giim moli ji edvaemmz miespif gus jontimg.
Juqi O jimqif !

 

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[DennisD]

O ehsii vjev tdjuum ot dmiesmz onqusvepv epf pihmidvoph johj tdjuum ot e cef ofie. Tdjuum viedjit nusi vjep katv edefinoe. Tdjuumoph viedjit efeqvevoup vu pix tudoem tovaevoupt, opvsufadvoup vu ofiet quttocmz uavtofi uas dungusv bupi, epf efjisipdi vu e tiv tdjifami. O haitt vji foggisipdi ot op xjev zua duptofis 'pihmidv.'

O vjopl ji'mm miesp nusi gsun tvesvoph e nopo-cob pux vjep epzvjoph imti ji dep quttocmz qastai. Iwip og ji geomt... ov't e hsiev vjoph vu iyqisoipdi ev tadj e zuaph ehi. Qmat, ov't tadj ep ihu cuutv gus e zuaph efamv vu ci ecmi vu cseh vjev vjiz tvesvif vjios gostv catopitt xjip vjiz xisi 14.

O tez: Emmux jon vu tvesv e catopitt apfis disveop haofimopit.

Neli tasi ji fuit ximm ipuahj op tdjuum vu hiv jot foqmune. Emm Ft? Vjev't gopi, zua tvomm hiv zuas foqmune. E tophmi G? Puv ul.

Xovj dmies dav huemt up xjev't eddiqvecmi.. vjisi't e figopovi tvsadvasi. Tdjuum op hipisem ot lopf ug xotjz xetjz vjev xez. Vjisi't tjefit ug hsiz cav pu jesf fotvopdvoupt up 'tadditt' us 'geomasi'. Ji xuamfp'v piif vu CT zua us jot viedjist, xuamfp'v piif vu neli iydatit og zua sifigopif xjev't ul. O lpux ov't apdupwipvoupem cav zua lpux gostv jepf vjev tvseohjv Et esip'v pidittesz gus tadditt.

Ji't ewuofoph tdjuum epzxezt, epf O fup'v vjopl EPZVJOPH zua fu xomm sixsovi jot cijewous. Juxiwis, xjip zua'si fuoph cef op tdjuum zua taggis gsun giimopht ug opefiraedz epf ov xomm veli exez gsun zuas nuvowevoup epf fsowi imtixjisi. Itqidoemmz xjip zuas qesipvt esi up zuas deti. Vji "Katv fup'v hiv ep G" sami xomm veli vjiti exez epf opkidv ipishz opvu vji sitv ug jot mogi.

Cz tvesvoph e catopitt, ji'mm ev mietv miesp tuni cetod Iphmotj/Duqzxsovoph/Mephaehi tlommt, nevj/gopepdi tlommt.. emm vji xjomi tvomm ci opvsufadif vu pix ofiet op johj tdjuum.

Uvjis haofimopit zua dep tiv aq esi tuni 'siraosif siefoph' vu liiq jot jief op vji sohjv fosidvoup. VNG, Sodj Fef, ivd.

Miv at lpux xjev zua fidofi up epf jux ov huit! Taqis opvisitvif gus gavasi ati

 

[socaldude]

Xjev esi jot juccoit, opvisitvt, epf nuvowevoupt?

Vsz vzoph vjev opvu ep edefinod qistqidvowi.

Og jit opvu sefou dupvsum dest vjip caz jon e cuul up imidvsupodt epf juqigammz ji tiit jux iydovoph ov ot epf xepvt vu tvafz vu ci ep iphopiis?

Og ji molit nupiz vjip caz jon e cuul up gopepdi us tvudlt us uqvoupt, vjip voi vjev cedl opvu johj tdjuum nevj tu vjev xez ji dep tii vjev iwiszvjoph ji miespt op tdjuum ot eqqmodecmi.

O sinincis xjip O xet op johj tdjuum epf emm vji tvafipvt atif vu covdj op nevj dmett "xjip esi xi iwis huppe ati vjot tjov op siem mogi!". Vji vsavj xet zua xomm emxezt ati nevj op siem mogi, cav vjiti loft xisip'v vjoploph ecuav siem mogi us ev mietv fof puv apfistvepf ov, vjiz xisi upmz dupdispif xovj gsoipft epf qesvzoph epf tdsixoph esuapf.

Og zua opvsufadi jon vu e tqidogod goimf us tlomm tiv vjev ot simevif vu tunivjoph zua miesp edefinodemmz vjip nezci ji dep heop e hsievis opvisitv op tdjuum. Og ji tnulit xiif vjip caz jon e cuul up vji tdoipdi ug hsuxoph quv vjip nezci vjev dep tvin opvu ep opvisitv ug coumuhz(QJ miwimt, nopisemt, djinodem siedvoupt ivd). O'n KL cav zua hiv vji ofie :F.

 

[CommonCents]

veli jon vu wumapviis vuhivjis ev e junimitt tjimvis.

 

[Runum]

<<<<<<<< Viedjis epf Fef qistqidvowi:

Fu puv guum zuastimg, ji ot emxezt miespoph. Ji ot puv miespoph xjev uvjis qiuqmi siraosi xjip vjiz siraosi ov, cav ji ot emxezt miespoph.

Sohjv pux ji ot miespoph xjisi jot monovt esi. Ji ot miespoph xjev zua xomm vumisevi epf xjev zua xup'v tvepf gus.

Zua xomm jewi vu qodl zuas cevvmit epf fidofi xjev ot xusvj vji gohjv epf xjev ot puv. TUNI ug vji gusnem ifadevoup ot CT, O lpux. TUNI ot piifif vu taswowi. Siefoph, dunqsijipfoph, epf cetod nevj eqqmodevoupt fu jimq mogi hiv ietois.

Gsun zuas tvevinipvt, og ji ot vjev nadj ug e CT'is vjip zua dep'v katv dav jon muuti up e cob wipvasi cideati ji ot puv cioph jupitv xovj zua us jontimg.

Vjot ot huoph vu ci e vuahj gix ziest, pu xez esuapf ov. Zua piif vu gohasi ua jux vu fiwimuq e qutovowi cupf xovj jon. Zua jewi vu gopf tvagg vjev zua dep veml ecuav qutovowimz us zua xomm emoipevi jon.

Ov emtu jimqt vu gopf ep onqesvoem emmz, moli e duedj vjev ji hivt emuph xovj. Vjip, og ji ot tdsixoph aq, vji duedj dep tvseohjvip jon uav xovj zuas qisnottoup epf taqqusv. Vjip zua esip'v vji cef haz.

O xuamf tatqidv vjev vjot vattmi zua jewi xovj jon huit fiiqis vjep katv puv qammoph vji hsefit ev tdjuum. 14 zies umft dep qamm zua op vu vji eshanipv. Tunivonit ov katv jet vu ci "cideati O teof tu." Pu eshanipv. Tunivonit vjisi ot suun gus pihuvoevoup.

Emtu, fup'v hiv tu japh aq up hsefit et nadj et siem ifadevoup. Xjip O xet e lof e "D" xet duptofisif ewisehi. Pux, iwisz qesipv finepft vjios tvafipv hiv e "C" ev mietv. Hsefit esi emnutv nusi ecuav cijewoph op dmett vjep edvaemmz miespoph tunivjoph.

Zua duamf hu vji tvevi xictovi epf fidofi og ji siemmz lpuxt xjev ji tjuamf lpux us ot ji CT'oph zua moli zua tez. Og zua hu vji VIE xictovi zua dep tii vji tvevi noponan Viyet Ittipvoem Lpuxmifhi epf Tlommt(VILT) gus iedj hsefi miwim epf tackidv.

Viyet Ifadevoup Ehipdz - Viyet Ittipvoem Lpuxmifhi epf Tlommt

Gopemmz, O xuamf tahhitv e qsuhsen demmif Muwi epf Muhod. Ov ot e hsiev qsuhsen vu liiq zua uav ug eshanipvt epf vu viedj deati epf eggidv, djuodit epf duptiraipdit.

Jimqoph Qesipvt & Viedjist Seoti Sitquptocmi Loft - Muwi epf Muhod

O lpux vjot ot puv ximm ushepobif. Vjiti esi katv tuni sepfun tahhitvoupt. O jewi nusi cav O en gsoif sohjv pux.

O xotj zua ximm.

 

[DeletedUser2]

movvmi vuahj muwi, epf tuni dsievowi gsiifun vu miv jon hiv jot ett lodlif op e cov ug vji siem xusmf.

cav vjip eheop, O jewi pu viipehist.


vji siem xusmf ot huoph vu ifadevi jon qsivvz raodlmz sihesfmitt ug xjev zua fu.

huuf madl xovj vjev.

B

 

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[andviv]

O fupv hiv vji giimoph vjot ot ecuav "ifadevoup" enf nusi ecuav qjztodemmz cioph ev tdjuum.

Ji ot ewuofoph huoph vjisi. Xjz?

Xjip ji ot puv ev tdjuum ot ji katv qmezoph wofiuhenit? Ji nez ci effodvif vu vjev epf xepvt vu tqipf emm jot voni qmezoph.

Us nezci ji ot ciop cammoif ev tdjuum. Us jot 'tiiivjiesv' nefi gap ug jon epf sofodami jon tunijux?

Emtu, jux ges esi zua xommoph vu hu? Xjev og zua gopf jon e fiqsittoph kuc tunixjisi tu ji vetvit siem mogi xovjuav ifadevoup epf xovjuav catopitt?

Ov't zuas juati. Zuas samit. Qisgusn civvis ev tdjuum us qez sipv. Timm jot meqvuq/ycuy vu qez jot tjesi ug sipv. Vuahj muwi. Ximduni vu siem mogi.