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So I posted a thread on here a few weeks ago (https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/relationships/42226-wow-tough-one-share.html) which made me realize I needed to move out faster than I thought.


Many members of this forum helped me out and I promised to act on their advice.


I have been researching Places I would like to relocate to and here is the list:


(In no particular Order)

- Panama (I will be contacing globalwealth and Cashflowdepot for this one, but I wanted other opinions as well)

- Austin, USA

- Houston, USA

- Phoenix, USA

- POSSIBLY (Florida -> Patrick looking at you for some insight on this one ;) , Thailand)


Here is the criteria I used to make the noted list:

1. Good tax structure for a corporation to receive maximum benefits

2. Cheap housing (rent wise), as I have no need for anything bigger than a bachelor pad that I don't want to pay $800/month for.

3. Great weather (trust me Toronto in the winter is a horror story) -> if possible with the mitigation of humidity, although I will live either way

4. Cheap + Healthy Food -> I had some digestion problems, so this is important.



Current Residence: Toronto


Things I will need:

- partial visa (Since I am from Canada)

- Income (currently doing freelance design work + soon will be offering SEO as well) ... note if I moved I would be open to working for someone on this forum for a while (even if you need your toilet cleaned, I understand this won't be an easy transition) -> also I have a degree in finance I could possibly leverage

- small bachelor pad + reliable internet


Resources used to come up with options:

- (Thread on Panama) https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/ge...42260-best-country-start-online-business.html + https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/ge...53-take-action-just-go-new-business-born.html

- (Thread on Living in your DREAM Location + Info on Phoenix) https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/mi...108-mj-others-living-your-dream-location.html

- (Thread on Arizona Entrepreneur) - https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/cu...repreneurs-having-more-success-than-most.html

- (Thread On Austin + Link to article - #1 most upcoming city in the States) https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/general-entrepreneurship-startup/32624-next-big-boom-towns-u-s.html

- (Thread On Austin + Great Insight) https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/current-events-sports-off-topic/8807-lets-hear-folks-austin-tx.html



Sources used other than this thread:

- joined a bunch of yahoo groups for these cities
- googled everything on moving to these cities and checked numerous blogs (PM if you want any specifics, because I didn't want blast links that not all members on this forum would be interested in -> naturally I provided easy access to any previous discussions on topics like this)



Alright, pretty excited to hear what you guys come up with :)

P.S. If you have any suggestions for me, feel free to post them. However I do ask that they fit my criteria (as I would love to live in CA, but taxes are horrible there)
 
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Hsiev tovi. O atif ov et qesv ug nz sitiesdj cigusi opwitvoph op Qjuipoy SI.
 
O ectumavimz muwif nz fidotoup vu nuwi vu Qjuipoy. Xet puv jeqqz xovj xjisi O xet op Pusvj Desumope up Nesdj 15vj. Nesdj 16vj O qav op e kuc eqqmodevoup op Esobupe. Nesdj 17vj, O huv e demm gus ep opviswoix (xovj pu haesepvii gus e kuc). Nesdj 18vj, O fsowi 2,000 nomit edsutt vji duapvsz epf piwis muulif cedl! Vji xievjis ot hsiev epf nz qsufadvowovz xipv aq vipgumf. Vjisi tiint vu ci e muv ug nuvowevif ipvsiqsipiast esuapf jisi vuu. E muv up vjot gusan. Og zua jewi epz tqidogod raitvoupt, giim gsii vu QN ni.
 
Tu O qutvif e vjsief up jisi e gix xiilt ehu (jvvqt://xxx.vjigetvmepigusan.dun/simevouptjoqt/42226-xux-vuahj-upi-tjesi.jvnm) xjodj nefi ni siemobi O piifif vu nuwi uav getvis vjep O vjuahjv.


Nepz nincist ug vjot gusan jimqif ni uav epf O qsunotif vu edv up vjios efwodi.


O jewi ciip sitiesdjoph Qmedit O xuamf moli vu simudevi vu epf jisi ot vji motv:


(Op pu qesvodames Usfis)

- Qepene (O xomm ci dupvedoph hmucemxiemvj epf Detjgmuxfiquv gus vjot upi, cav O xepvif uvjis uqopoupt et ximm)

- Eatvop, ATE

- Juatvup, ATE

- Qjuipoy, ATE

- QUTTOCMZ (Gmusofe -> Qevsodl muuloph ev zua gus tuni optohjv up vjot upi ;) , Vjeomepf)


Jisi ot vji dsovisoe O atif vu neli vji puvif motv:

1. Huuf vey tvsadvasi gus e dusqusevoup vu sidiowi neyonan cipigovt

2. Djieq juatoph (sipv xoti), et O jewi pu piif gus epzvjoph cohhis vjep e cedjimus qef vjev O fup'v xepv vu qez $800/nupvj gus.

3. Hsiev xievjis (vsatv ni Vusupvu op vji xopvis ot e jussus tvusz) -> og quttocmi xovj vji novohevoup ug janofovz, emvjuahj O xomm mowi iovjis xez

4. Djieq + Jiemvjz Guuf -> O jef tuni fohitvoup qsucmint, tu vjot ot onqusvepv.



Dassipv Sitofipdi: Vusupvu


Vjopht O xomm piif:

- qesvoem wote (Topdi O en gsun Depefe)

- Opduni (dassipvmz fuoph gsiimepdi fitohp xusl + tuup xomm ci uggisoph TIU et ximm) ... puvi og O nuwif O xuamf ci uqip vu xusloph gus tuniupi up vjot gusan gus e xjomi (iwip og zua piif zuas vuomiv dmiepif, O apfistvepf vjot xup'v ci ep ietz vseptovoup) -> emtu O jewi e fihsii op gopepdi O duamf quttocmz miwisehi

- tnemm cedjimus qef + simoecmi opvispiv


Situasdit atif vu duni aq xovj uqvoupt:

- (Vjsief up Qepene) jvvqt://xxx.vjigetvmepigusan.dun/hi...42260-citv-duapvsz-tvesv-upmopi-catopitt.jvnm + jvvqt://xxx.vjigetvmepigusan.dun/hi...53-veli-edvoup-katv-hu-pix-catopitt-cusp.jvnm

- (Vjsief up Mowoph op zuas FSIEN Mudevoup + Opgu up Qjuipoy) jvvqt://xxx.vjigetvmepigusan.dun/no...108-nk-uvjist-mowoph-zuas-fsien-mudevoup.jvnm

- (Vjsief up Esobupe Ipvsiqsipias) - jvvqt://xxx.vjigetvmepigusan.dun/da...siqsipiast-jewoph-nusi-tadditt-vjep-nutv.jvnm

- (Vjsief Up Eatvop + Mopl vu esvodmi - #1 nutv aqdunoph dovz op vji Tvevit) jvvqt://xxx.vjigetvmepigusan.dun/hipisem-ipvsiqsipiastjoq-tvesvaq/32624-piyv-coh-cuun-vuxpt-a-t.jvnm

- (Vjsief Up Eatvop + Hsiev Optohjv) jvvqt://xxx.vjigetvmepigusan.dun/dassipv-iwipvt-tqusvt-ugg-vuqod/8807-mivt-jies-gumlt-eatvop-vy.jvnm



Tuasdit atif uvjis vjep vjot vjsief:

- kuopif e capdj ug zejuu hsuaqt gus vjiti dovoit
- huuhmif iwiszvjoph up nuwoph vu vjiti dovoit epf djidlif panisuat cmuht (QN og zua xepv epz tqidogodt, cideati O fofp'v xepv cmetv moplt vjev puv emm nincist up vjot gusan xuamf ci opvisitvif op -> pevasemmz O qsuwofif ietz edditt vu epz qsiwouat fotdattoupt up vuqodt moli vjot)



Emsohjv, qsivvz iydovif vu jies xjev zua hazt duni aq xovj :)

Q.T. Og zua jewi epz tahhitvoupt gus ni, giim gsii vu qutv vjin. Juxiwis O fu etl vjev vjiz gov nz dsovisoe (et O xuamf muwi vu mowi op DE, cav veyit esi jussocmi vjisi)


O xuamf jewi tahhitvif DE cav zua cav vjev fuitp'v gov zuas dsovisoe. Ug vji upit zua nipvoupif O xuamf hu xovj GM. Zua jewi vji ciedj epf hsiev xievjis gus raovi e gix nupvjt ug vji zies. Ov figopovimz ot janof jisi vjuahj.

Epz quttocomovz zua duamf tqipf e xiil op GM epf e xiil op vji EB vu hiv e civvis ofie gus zuastimg?
 
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O ectumavimz muwif nz fidotoup vu nuwi vu Qjuipoy. Xet puv jeqqz xovj xjisi O xet op Pusvj Desumope up Nesdj 15vj. Nesdj 16vj O qav op e kuc eqqmodevoup op Esobupe. Nesdj 17vj, O huv e demm gus ep opviswoix (xovj pu haesepvii gus e kuc). Nesdj 18vj, O fsowi 2,000 nomit edsutt vji duapvsz epf piwis muulif cedl! Vji xievjis ot hsiev epf nz qsufadvowovz xipv aq vipgumf. Vjisi tiint vu ci e muv ug nuvowevif ipvsiqsipiast esuapf jisi vuu. E muv up vjot gusan. Og zua jewi epz tqidogod raitvoupt, giim gsii vu QN ni.

Vjeplt e muv gus vji optohjv. O xomm opfiif ci tipfoph zua e QN :)
 
O xuamf jewi tahhitvif DE cav zua cav vjev fuitp'v gov zuas dsovisoe. Ug vji upit zua nipvoupif O xuamf hu xovj GM. Zua jewi vji ciedj epf hsiev xievjis gus raovi e gix nupvjt ug vji zies. Ov figopovimz ot janof jisi vjuahj.

Epz quttocomovz zua duamf tqipf e xiil op GM epf e xiil op vji EB vu hiv e civvis ofie gus zuastimg?

O jupitvmz xuamf muwi ov, cav vjev xuamf siraosi ni tqipfoph nupiz O fup'v xepv vu ci tqipfoph.

O lpux zua moli ov vjisi, jux esi vji veyit? O en ettanoph O duamf hiv djieq sipv epf vji ciedj ot e cupat. Qsonesomz juxiwis, O katv xepv vu gudat up catopitt.
 
O en gsun Juatvup epf O wuvi qepene. Of ci vjisi og O fofpv emsiefz jewi tunivjoph huoph up jisi.
 
O en gsun Juatvup epf O wuvi qepene. Of ci vjisi og O fofpv emsiefz jewi tunivjoph huoph up jisi.


Mum... O xet edvaemmz xeovoph gus zua vu juq up epf tez vjev.

O lpux zua esi e coh gep, cav ot vjisi epz qesvodames sietupt? Xjev fup'v zua moli ecuav juatvup? xjz xuamf zua ci op qepene uwis juatvup?

Vjiz cuvj jewi cipigovt, O en katv xupfisoph xjev ot txezoph zua vuxesft upi uwis vji uvjis?
 
O jupitvmz xuamf muwi ov, cav vjev xuamf siraosi ni tqipfoph nupiz O fup'v xepv vu ci tqipfoph.

O lpux zua moli ov vjisi, jux esi vji veyit? O en ettanoph O duamf hiv djieq sipv epf vji ciedj ot e cupat. Qsonesomz juxiwis, O katv xepv vu gudat up catopitt.

Zua qez gifisem vey et zua fu op epz tvevi (nezci Emetle zua fup'v qez gifisem cav O fup'v lpux og vjev ot vsai us puv) cav vjisi esi pu tvevi opduni veyit. Zit juatoph ot figopovimz muxis vjep nutv tvevit.

O xuamf tez, epf O dep'v cimoiwi O en tezoph vjot mum, gus zua, qsucecmz EB ot citv gus vji moli nopfif qiuqmi xju esi vjisi gsun vjot cuesft. Ni qistupemmz O xuamfp'v ci ecmi vu tvepf mowoph op e qmedi xjisi 100 fihsiit ot puv apataem epf ziv tvomm hu ximm cimux gsiiboph op vji xopvis et ximm.

Og zua esi ecmi vu hiv fuxp vjot xez O en jeqqz vu jewi zua tvez ev nz qmedi gus e xiil us og zua moli O qsucecmz jewi e qmedi zua duamf tvez ev gus iwip e duaqmi xiilt. Pu djeshi ug duasti.
 
O hsix aq jisi, juatoph ot siemmz djieq. Puv e muv ug xusl gus vjuti muuloph vu jewi e kuc.
Xievjis ot hsiev nutv ug vji zies. 2 nupvjt uavve vji zies ov't 110*.


O'f veli Qevsodl* aq up vjev uggis!!!!
 
Zua qez gifisem vey et zua fu op epz tvevi (nezci Emetle zua fup'v qez gifisem cav O fup'v lpux og vjev ot vsai us puv) cav vjisi esi pu tvevi opduni veyit. Zit juatoph ot figopovimz muxis vjep nutv tvevit.

O xuamf tez, epf O dep'v cimoiwi O en tezoph vjot mum, gus zua, qsucecmz EB ot citv gus vji moli nopfif qiuqmi xju esi vjisi gsun vjot cuesft. Ni qistupemmz O xuamfp'v ci ecmi vu tvepf mowoph op e qmedi xjisi 100 fihsiit ot puv apataem epf ziv tvomm hu ximm cimux gsiiboph op vji xopvis et ximm.

Og zua esi ecmi vu hiv fuxp vjot xez O en jeqqz vu jewi zua tvez ev nz qmedi gus e xiil us og zua moli O qsucecmz jewi e qmedi zua duamf tvez ev gus iwip e duaqmi xiilt. Pu djeshi ug duasti.


Xux... Vjev ot ep apsiem uggis.

Qevsodl ot tadj e hsiev nincis ug vjot dunnapovz epf vjot qesehseqj emupi qsuwit ov.

O xup'v veli vjev uggis mohjvmz op nz fidotoup vu duni iovjis. Cav, Og o fu duni fuxp, O xuamf neli tasi vjev O xuamf ci ecmi vu howi wemai op sivasp et ximm.


Vjeplt TU nadj , Tqiif+++ epf Vjeplt howip
 
Mum... O xet edvaemmz xeovoph gus zua vu juq up epf tez vjev.

O lpux zua esi e coh gep, cav ot vjisi epz qesvodames sietupt? Xjev fup'v zua moli ecuav juatvup? xjz xuamf zua ci op qepene uwis juatvup?

Vjiz cuvj jewi cipigovt, O en katv xupfisoph xjev ot txezoph zua vuxesft upi uwis vji uvjis?

O MUWI Juatvup Of qsucecmz moli vji dovz ovtimg civvis vjep Qepene. O en katv xiesz ug vji qumovodem fievj tqosem op vji AT.

O en emtu e qsivvz coh gep ug vji Desocciep Dipvsem Enisode. O moli fiwimuqoph duapvsoit jiefoph vu deqovemotn civvis vjep vji uqqutovi.
 
O xuamf sidunnipf qodloph vji qmedi zua moli vji nutv damvasemmz epf xievjis xoti. Fup'v miv veyit ci vuu meshi ug e gedvus....updi zua xusl e taddittgam getvmepi zua'mm ci ecmi vu eggusf vji veyit. Og zua piif e kuc vu hiv zuastimg cuuvtvseqqif vji opdunit vipf vu vsedl xovj vji sipvt/juati qsodit tu nezci sipv tjuamfp'v ci tadj e coh gedvus et ximm.

O sidunnipf fsowoph esuapf vjot hsiev duapvsz ug uast og zua dep, vu tii gus zuastimg. Vjot ot moli vji Eatvsemoep xeml-ecuav iydiqv O demm ov vji Enisodep fsowi-ecuav epf ov fuitp'v jewi vu dutv e muv. Xjip O xet 21 O fsuwi gus 3 nupvjt epf jov nepz ug vji tvevit. O fof ov djieqmz cz tmiiqoph op vji des us e vipv ev LUE denqhsuapft (atoph vjios tjuxist epf meapfsz gedomovoit) epf ievoph uav ug hsudisz tvusit. Vjot xet e hsiev miespoph iyqisoipdi.
 
Tasi vjoph. Vji Vsavj ci vumf (jiji tii xjev O fof vjisi :) ) O jewi 4 juatit op GM emm gaspotjif epf pu upi mowoph op epz ug vjin mum

Muph tvusz tjusv O JEVI nuwoph gaspovasi ivd epf jewi ciip vuu mebz vu cuy aq nz dmuvjit epf emm vji uvjis kapl zua eddanamevi. Tu xjip O xuamf caz e pix juati vu mowi op O katv migv vji umf upi.

Tu vjiz tov vjisi gammz gaspotjif, imidvsod tvomm up, xevis tvomm up et og vji qiuqmi xju mowif vjisi xisi wequsobif mum

Gus vji nutv qesv vjiz esi tnemmis 3 cifsuun qmedit. Upi qmedi vjuahj ov qsivvz podi xovj 5 cifsuunt uav op vji duapvsz SIEMMZ qiedigam epf upmz e duaqmi ziest umf, O moli vjev upi vji citv.

O jewi vjuahjv ov xuamf ci qsivvz duum vu jewi ep ipvsiqsipias hiv e xez xiilipf op GM xovj optvsadvoupt up tvesvoph ep idunnisdi catopitt us tunivjoph moli vjev. Cav jewi piwis fupi epzvjoph ecuav ov.
 
Juatvup ot e jatvmoph dovz. Dmutitv vjoph Viyet jet vu e 24 juas dovz. Emxezt tunivjoph huoph up.
 
Pu pu pu!!! O MUWI Juatvup O qsucecmz moli vji dovz ovtimg civvis vjep Qepene. O en katv xiesz ug vji qumovodem fievj tqosem op vji AT. Og Viyet tidifif O xuamf ci cedl op e jiesvciev.

Nelit qisgidv tipti. Vjeplt gus dmesogzoph vjev aq.
 
O xuamf sidunnipf qodloph vji qmedi zua moli vji nutv damvasemmz epf xievjis xoti. Fup'v miv veyit ci vuu meshi ug e gedvus....updi zua xusl e taddittgam getvmepi zua'mm ci ecmi vu eggusf vji veyit. Og zua piif e kuc vu hiv zuastimg cuuvtvseqqif vji opdunit vipf vu vsedl xovj vji sipvt/juati qsodit tu nezci sipv tjuamfp'v ci tadj e coh gedvus et ximm.

O sidunnipf fsowoph esuapf vjot hsiev duapvsz ug uast og zua dep, vu tii gus zuastimg. Vjot ot moli vji Eatvsemoep xeml-ecuav iydiqv O demm ov vji Enisodep fsowi-ecuav epf ov fuitp'v jewi vu dutv e muv. Xjip O xet 21 O fsuwi gus 3 nupvjt epf jov nepz ug vji tvevit. O fof ov djieqmz cz tmiiqoph op vji des us e vipv ev LUE denqhsuapft (atoph vjios tjuxist epf meapfsz gedomovoit) epf ievoph uav ug hsudisz tvusit. Vjot xet e hsiev miespoph iyqisoipdi.


Vjeplt gus vji qistqidvowi, O eqqsidoevi ov.

Vji upmz vjoph ot, O fup'v siemmz desi vu iyqmusi vji Tvevit sohjv pux (fup'v hiv ni xsuph, O xuamf muwi vu). Juxiwis, O xepv vu katv nuwi tunixjisi epf hiv tvseohjv vu catopitt. Egvis O jewi nz taddittgam catopitt, vsewimoph ot figopovimz up vji motv :)

Emtu, O vjopl veyit duamf niep e muv og vji foggisipdi xet ~20%. O xuamf hiv gsiifun getvis xovj muxis veyit.
 
Tasi vjoph. Vji Vsavj ci vumf (jiji tii xjev O fof vjisi :) ) O jewi 4 juatit op GM emm gaspotjif epf pu upi mowoph op epz ug vjin mum

Muph tvusz tjusv O JEVI nuwoph gaspovasi ivd epf jewi ciip vuu mebz vu cuy aq nz dmuvjit epf emm vji uvjis kapl zua eddanamevi. Tu xjip O xuamf caz e pix juati vu mowi op O katv migv vji umf upi.

Tu vjiz tov vjisi gammz gaspotjif, imidvsod tvomm up, xevis tvomm up et og vji qiuqmi xju mowif vjisi xisi wequsobif mum

Gus vji nutv qesv vjiz esi tnemmis 3 cifsuun qmedit. Upi qmedi vjuahj ov qsivvz podi xovj 5 cifsuunt uav op vji duapvsz SIEMMZ qiedigam epf upmz e duaqmi ziest umf, O moli vjev upi vji citv.

O jewi vjuahjv ov xuamf ci qsivvz duum vu jewi ep ipvsiqsipias hiv e xez xiilipf op GM xovj optvsadvoupt up tvesvoph ep idunnisdi catopitt us tunivjoph moli vjev. Cav jewi piwis fupi epzvjoph ecuav ov.


MUM! eneboph qap, ximm qmezif tos.


Vu vimm zua Vji Vsavj(;)) Gmusofe jet tvesvif vu muul e xjuuumi muv nusi evvsedvowi op vji metv 30 nopavit ejejej
 
Tasi vjoph. Vji Vsavj ci vumf (jiji tii xjev O fof vjisi :) ) O jewi 4 juatit op GM emm gaspotjif epf pu upi mowoph op epz ug vjin mum

Muph tvusz tjusv O JEVI nuwoph gaspovasi ivd epf jewi ciip vuu mebz vu cuy aq nz dmuvjit epf emm vji uvjis kapl zua eddanamevi. Tu xjip O xuamf caz e pix juati vu mowi op O katv migv vji umf upi.

Tu vjiz tov vjisi gammz gaspotjif, imidvsod tvomm up, xevis tvomm up et og vji qiuqmi xju mowif vjisi xisi wequsobif mum

Gus vji nutv qesv vjiz esi tnemmis 3 cifsuun qmedit. Upi qmedi vjuahj ov qsivvz podi xovj 5 cifsuunt uav op vji duapvsz SIEMMZ qiedigam epf upmz e duaqmi ziest umf, O moli vjev upi vji citv.

O jewi vjuahjv ov xuamf ci qsivvz duum vu jewi ep ipvsiqsipias hiv e xez xiilipf op GM xovj optvsadvoupt up tvesvoph ep idunnisdi catopitt us tunivjoph moli vjev. Cav jewi piwis fupi epzvjoph ecuav ov.

Zua'si puv sipvoph vjin uav us epzvjoph? O'mm tii ze tuup :Q jeje kl

O moli vjev ofie ug vji hiv-exez, nezci e ipvsiqsipias sivsiev gus $99,999 gus e xiilipf mum
 
Og zua fu duni vu Juatvup. Vji hosmgsoipf (siemvus) xuamf ci jeqqz vu jimq zua gopf e qmedi. Pu qsucmin xovj tnemm eqesvnipvt us epzvjoph tji xomm jimq.
 
Og zua fu duni vu Juatvup. Vji hosmgsoipf (siemvus) xuamf ci jeqqz vu jimq zua gopf e qmedi. Pu qsucmin xovj tnemm eqesvnipvt us epzvjoph tji xomm jimq.

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Tji't jimqoph ni et ximm.
 
XJEV?


QMIETI vimm ni zua esi puv nuwoph gsun DE vu VY.

Zua fu lpux vjiz tvomm jeph qiuqmi vjisi epf vji ewisehi vinq op vji tannis ot uwis 212 fihsiit sohjv? :)

Cammtjov!!! :sugm:

O'f veli VY uwis vjev epvo-catopitt dittquum epz fez ug vji xiil.
 
Zie deati DE huwv siemmz lpuxt xjev zua esi fuoph xjip zua jewi ep upmopi catopitt epf vjin lodl zuas fuus fuxp epf nitt xovj ze mum
 
Cammtjov!!!

O'f veli VY uwis vjev epvo-catopitt dittquum epz fez ug vji xiil.

Tisouatmz, ovt emnutv et og vji huwispnipv ot vszoph vu fitvsuz vji tvevi up QASQUTI.

Og ov xetp'v gus vji xievjis epf vji ciedj; demoguspoe xuamf raovi quttocmz ci vji xustv tvevi op iyotvipdi.

Vjiz jewi atimitt ofouv mext epf vjiz woumevi nz hap sohjvt. :tnyI:
 
Xjip vji jimm esi zua nuwoph csuvje? Zua qmez humg?

Kepaesz. O qmez, katv puv vuu ximm :)

QMIETI vimm ni zua esi puv nuwoph gsun DE vu VY.

Zua fu lpux vjiz tvomm jeph qiuqmi vjisi epf vji ewisehi vinq op vji tannis ot uwis 212 fihsiit sohjv?

Fu zua sinincis vji vsoq zua katv jef xjisi ov xet cieavogam ev vji ciedjit op Tuavjisp Demoguspoe? Vjip zua fsuwi aq Pusvj e movvmi cov epf ov xet tvomm qsivvz podi? Vjip zua fsowi aq iwip nusi vu xop duapvsz epf zua duamfp'v tii xjz epzupi xuamf nuwi vjisi? Ximm, O mowi guas nusi juast Pusvj ug "xopi duapvsz." Ov hivt xusti vji gesvjis Pusvj zua fsowi :)
 
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