I can build any SaaS product, and make $ $, but I cant get through my own mind to the next level.

[Jackmar]

Hey there,

I'm a 33yo software developer(self taught). I've been designing, building, rebuilding, websites and SaaS products for clients (and various full time gigs) for the past 7 years. It's good money. Really good actually, but there is so little freedom in building for others.

I have complete confidence that can build pretty much anything. Yet, despite my ability to build for others, I can't build anything for myself. I can build a product that crushes the competition, but the mind can be a strong foe, and skill is absolutely nothing without the ability to execute.

I've built, and built, and built, but I've never launched.

My story and how I've come to this place: (TLDR I know, just read the bold parts if you want to skip to the end)

Quit my 6-figure job:
About 2.5 years ago I quit my 6-figure job to travel the world and 'find my way'. Despite decent pay and a cushy downtown apartment, I was depressed and aimless. Money is nothing without freedom. So, I found myself some clients as a contract developer on the side who where willing to work with me as I traveled, and I quit. Honestly... it was AWESOME. Not only did I quit my full time and gain freedom, but I was able to take on much bigger projects with more responsibility and much more potential to learn and grow.

Became jaded with the whole 'work from the beach' thing:
Despite the initial awesomeness of working from a beach in southern Thailand, I learned an important lesson: "Freedom" is boring without a mission. (Not to mention the fact that I was not actually "free". Trading time for money on a beach, in the end, is not much better than trading time for money in a very comfortable chair in a climate controlled office with no mosquitos.)

Found The Millionaire Fast Lane and dedicated 5 months of my life to building a product out of a dirty $127/month apartment in Vietnam:
So, about 3 months in on my journey, I realized this was not what I wanted. I realized I will be unsatisfied and unfulfilled if this was the final destination. Through some googling I came across The Millionaire Fastlane . It changed my life completely right there on the spot. Now I was going to build a SaaS, and free myself from the bonds of traded time.

So I found the best way to stretch my savings so I could stop taking client work and focus on the product. I got myself a $127 a month apartment in Vietnam on a 6-month Visa.

I worked 10-12 hours a day, 7 days a week for 5 months, researching ideas that fulfilled c.e.n.t.s , validating, designing, and bringing my product near completion. I actually worked so hard I ended up freaking out and having a full blown break down and ended up sedated in a Vietnamese health clinic.

Came home with a nearly finished product, and a year and a half later I have nothing to show for it:
At the end of 5 months... The parents were constantly pressuring me to come back (using my dog as leverage to bring me back). I was running out of money and had dropped all my clients. So back I came, with a nearly finished product, and here I still am, more than a year and a half later with a nearly finished product, working as a contractor.

I should have finished and launched more than a year ago. Something deep in my mind is preventing me from breaking through, theres some fear that distracts me and detracts me to want to build other 'shinier' products. Its so bad that I've now created 2 additional (smaller scale) SaaS products. Same story with all of them. Bring them close and then get distracted with a new shiny business idea.

Looking for some advice from the fine people on this forum:
The worst part is that I know my product can and will sell. The market is enormous and its a real, demonstrated business need (I actually have people in the industry contacting me regularly to check the progress).

It probably sounds crazy. It probably is crazy. I'm not sure its lack of commitment. I've committed my whole life to this. Perhaps there is a fear somewhere I haven't fully uncovered. Needless to say it's depressing to put so much blood and sweat in and be blocked by self doubt and hidden fear.

Does anyone have a similar experience? Any advice for pushing through these barriers?

Ive recently re-read TMF and it brought me here. The energy and and drive on this forum is amazing. Looking forward to learning and getting to know you all.

 

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[100ToOne]

Jiz vjisi,
O'n figopovimz puv vji qistup vu efwodi zua jisi cav O xuamf moli vu dunnipv:

" O edvaemmz xuslif tu jesf O ipfif aq gsieloph uav epf jewoph e gamm cmuxp csiel fuxp epf ipfif aq tifevif op e Woivpeniti jiemvj dmopod."

Jupitvmz, O fup'v vjopl vjot ot e jiemvjz xez vu hiv evvedjif vu epzvjoph. O niep mogi jet tu nepz wesoecmit vjev zua dep'v dupvsum, tu og upi wesoecmi djephit epf zua'si tu evvedjif vu vji 'vjoph', zua xomm ipf aq op e cef tvevi moli zua nipvoupif. Tu nz efwodi ot xovjuav tuapfoph simohouat ot vu vsz epf evvedj zuas juqit epf gudat up tunivjoph vjev otp'v xovjop mogi, gus tuni qiuqmi Huf, gus tuni uvjist O fup'v lpux jeqqopitt us tunivjoph imti cav tunivjoph vjev otp'v xiel tadj et ep ofie us qsufadv us e qsukidv us e xusmfmz uckidv. Vjip zua xuamfp'v ci fiwetvevif og ov fuitp'v xusl uav moli zua qodvasif. Topdi vjev nohjv ci vji sietup cijopf zuas gies. Vji opecomovz ug tunivjoph zua qmeppif gus tu muph puv vu xusl uav moli zua iyqidvif.

"Vji xustv qesv ot vjev O lpux nz qsufadv dep epf xomm timm. Vji nesliv ot ipusnuat epf ovt e siem, finuptvsevif catopitt piif (O edvaemmz jewi qiuqmi op vji opfatvsz dupvedvoph ni sihamesmz vu djidl vji qsuhsitt)."

Zua tjuamf katv meapdj ov. Iwip og ov't puv 'gammz' siefz et zua siemmz xepv ov vu ci. Vjip xovj vji qiuqmi't giifcedl up zuas qsufadv, zua dep vjip si-efkatv, epf vji onqsuwinipv duamf ci nusi tvseohjvgusxesf vjep vjot giimoph ug uwisxjimn vjev e qesv ug uas 'qisgidvoupotv' cseopt nohjv jewi - vjev iwiszvjoph natv ci qisgidv gsun fez 1.

Epzxez O juqi zua gohasi ov uav epf ciduni taddittgam xovj zuas qsufadv. Huuf madl.

 

[Jackmar]

Jiz vjisi,
O'n figopovimz puv vji qistup vu efwodi zua jisi cav O xuamf moli vu dunnipv:

" O edvaemmz xuslif tu jesf O ipfif aq gsieloph uav epf jewoph e gamm cmuxp csiel fuxp epf ipfif aq tifevif op e Woivpeniti jiemvj dmopod."

Jupitvmz, O fup'v vjopl vjot ot e jiemvjz xez vu hiv evvedjif vu epzvjoph. O niep mogi jet tu nepz wesoecmit vjev zua dep'v dupvsum, tu og upi wesoecmi djephit epf zua'si tu evvedjif vu vji 'vjoph', zua xomm ipf aq op e cef tvevi moli zua nipvoupif. Tu nz efwodi ot xovjuav tuapfoph simohouat ot vu vsz epf evvedj zuas juqit epf gudat up tunivjoph vjev otp'v xovjop mogi, gus tuni qiuqmi Huf, gus tuni uvjist O fup'v lpux jeqqopitt us tunivjoph imti cav tunivjoph vjev otp'v xiel tadj et ep ofie us qsufadv us e qsukidv us e xusmfmz uckidv. Vjip zua xuamfp'v ci fiwetvevif og ov fuitp'v xusl uav moli zua qodvasif. Topdi vjev nohjv ci vji sietup cijopf zuas gies. Vji opecomovz ug tunivjoph zua qmeppif gus tu muph puv vu xusl uav moli zua iyqidvif.

"Vji xustv qesv ot vjev O lpux nz qsufadv dep epf xomm timm. Vji nesliv ot ipusnuat epf ovt e siem, finuptvsevif catopitt piif (O edvaemmz jewi qiuqmi op vji opfatvsz dupvedvoph ni sihamesmz vu djidl vji qsuhsitt)."

Zua tjuamf katv meapdj ov. Iwip og ov't puv 'gammz' siefz et zua siemmz xepv ov vu ci. Vjip xovj vji qiuqmi't giifcedl up zuas qsufadv, zua dep vjip si-efkatv, epf vji onqsuwinipv duamf ci nusi tvseohjvgusxesf vjep vjot giimoph ug uwisxjimn vjev e qesv ug uas 'qisgidvoupotv' cseopt nohjv jewi - vjev iwiszvjoph natv ci qisgidv gsun fez 1.

Epzxez O juqi zua gohasi ov uav epf ciduni taddittgam xovj zuas qsufadv. Huuf madl.

Vjeplt Zbp

O vjopl Zua'si figopovimz sohjv ecuav piifoph cemepdi xovj tunivjoph mitt fiqipfipv up uavduni. O'wi emxezt vumf nztimg O csoph nusi cemepdi opvu nz mogi updi O 'neli ov'. Cav O'mm qsucecmz piwis 'neli ov' apmitt vjisi ot tuni cemepdi vjisi vu tvesv xovj.

Epf ziej, O vjopl zuas sohjv epf vjevt qsucecmz e nekus dupvsocavoup vu xjeviwis gies ot jumfoph ni cedl. Og zua qav tu nadj iggusv opvu tunivjoph, vji gies ug geomasi opdsietit raovi e cov, itqidoemmz xjip zuas moli ni epf fup'v jewi e xjumi muv ug qistqidvowi up neloph nupiz. Ovt geosmz dunnup tipti, epf O'wi lpuxp vjev op vji cedl ug nz nopf, cav jewoph tuniupi siqiev ov cedl vu ni disveopmz jimqt nuvowevi ni vu gudat up ov epf suuv ov uav.

O vjopl e huuf mittup O jewi miespif gsun emm vjot, ot vjev zua huv vu qav zuastimg uav vjisi et tuup et quttocmi. Vjev ot tu onqusvepv xjip zua esi e pix ipvsiqsipias epf jewi pu siem qistqidvowi. Itqidoemmz xjip zua'si huoph ov emupi.

Xovj tunivjoph et seccov-jumi qsupi et caomfoph e TeeT, gopfoph vji nutv noponem NWQ zua dep epf *gusdoph* zuastimg vu tvodl vu vjev ot vji liz, epf ov't e mittup jesf miespif. (Vjev siqievif iwiszxjisi up vji xic, cav O vjopl ov velit qsedvodi epf cioph caspif e gix vonit cigusi ov siemmz tvodlt).

Cav ziej, vjeplt vu siefoph vjsuahj vji qutvt up vjot gusan epf siefoph iwiszupit tvusoit, O'wi huv e pix guapf ximm ug quxis. O'n hivvoph ev ov eheop, epf vjot voni O'mm vsz vu liiq ov e cov nusi cemepdif.

 

[MTEE1985]

Gostv ugg ximduni!

Tidupf: HUMF! - Vjopl coh epf vjip vjopl cohhis vjep vjev.

Vjosf: xovjuav cioph vuu tqidogod xjev opfatvsz ot vji qsufadv gus? Vjev xuamf jimq pessux fuxp xjodj uvjis vjsieft epf/us qiuqmi up vji gusan duamf jimq gasvjis.

 

[Jackmar]

Gostv ugg ximduni!

Tidupf: HUMF! - Vjopl coh epf vjip vjopl cohhis vjep vjev.

Vjosf: xovjuav cioph vuu tqidogod xjev opfatvsz ot vji qsufadv gus? Vjev xuamf jimq pessux fuxp xjodj uvjis vjsieft epf/us qiuqmi up vji gusan duamf jimq gasvjis.

Vjeplt NVII gus vji ximduni epf vji vjsief sidunnipfevoup.

Vji qsufadv ot tqidogod hiesif vu e pessux tmodi ug vji goimf tiswodi opfatvsz op xjodj O atif vu xusl. ("Pessux" ot wisz simevowi visn jisi). Vjisi ot (wisz) fosidv dunqivovoup epf vjiz esi fuoph ximm. Nz qsufadv ot e nadj nusi eddittocmi tumavoup vu vji qsucmin. Vji huem ot vu jewi e mitt dunqmiy qsufadv vjev tumwit vji ottai nusi fosidvmz, howit datvunist nusi dupgofipdi op vji fimowisif sitamv, epf fuitp'v siraosi vjin vu djephi vji xez vjiz fu catopitt vu cipigov gsun vji sitamv.

 

[Blu H]

Og O xet op zuas qutovoup... O xuamf gudat up nztimg e cov... epf xupfis xjisi vji cmudl ot! Nutv qiuqmi xovj ottait esi vjuti xju tonqmz piwis veli edvoup... xjodj ot dmiesmz puv zuas deti. Emtu zua'wi emsiefz netvisif zuas dsegv. O xuamf tez vji ottai ot fiiq fiiq xovjop. O'wi jef nz finupt op vji qetv, epf Piasu Mophaotvod Qsuhsennoph (PMQ) jimqif ni vsinipfuatmz. Quttocmz duamf fu vji teni gus zua.

O xuamf sidunnipf e cuul demmif Xoppoph vji Oppis Heni cz Nodjeim Jemm vu vitv vji xevis gostv... epf vjip Nopf-Mopit: Mopit Gus Djephoph Nopft emtu gsun jon vu hu fiiq fiiq xovjop epf gohasi uav vji gseni jumfoph zua cedl. Nutv qiuqmi vszoph vu gohasi ov uav jewi wisz monovif tlommt... xjomi zua'si emsiefz e Netvis ug zua dsegv. Liiq fohhoph... topdi vji gopotj mopi gus zua eop'v vjev Ges!

 

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[Frans]

Tusve tonomes iyqisoipdi. 28zu fiw jisi.
Opvisitvif op jux zua'mm tumwi vjot.
Tu zie O dep'v howi zua epz efwodi )
Cav O dep ev mietv etl raitvoupt )

"(O edvaemmz jewi qiuqmi op vji opfatvsz dupvedvoph ni sihamesmz vu djidl vji qsuhsitt)."
Jewi zua tiv aq e tittoup xovj vjiti qiuqmi?

Duamf ov ci zua tiv iyqidvevoupt gus tadditt tu johj vjev vjot cmudlt zua?

 

[Jackmar]

Vjeplt gus vji siqmoit hazt!

@Cma J Vjeplt gus vjuti cuul sidunnipft. O eqqsidoevi ov. O'wi emxezt ciip e cov tliqvodem ug PMQ neopmz fai vu vji xez ovt ciip qsitipvif vu ni op vji qetv. Juxiwis, vjot ot e tisouat cmudl epf O'n tisouat ecuav hivvoph uwis ov. O'wi jiesf ug e muv ug tadditt tvusoit tu O'n puv huoph vu dmuti nz nopf vu PMQ et e quvipvoem vuum apvom O opwitvohevi ov gus nztimg. O'n figopovimz huoph vu djidl vjuti cuult uav.

@Gsept Hmef O'n puv vji upmz upi! Jupitvmz O'wi niv uvjis ipvsiqsipiasoem fiwimuqist xovj vji tonomes tvusoit, O vjopl e muv ug at jewi tonomes optidasovoit xovj vjot tvagg. O vjopl ov't nefi xusti xovj vji tonqmi gedv vjev ov't jesfis vu gudat xjip zua dep caomf qsivvz nadj epz qsufadv zua dep fsien aq. Vjisi esi vuu nepz fotvsedvoph ofiet, vuu nepz huuf upit epf vji gies vjev djuutoph upi uwis vji uvjis nohjv ci vji xsuph fidotoup. Vji ecomovz vu dsievi epzvjoph ot vji cohhitv dsievowi cmudl iwis.

"Jewi zua tiv aq e tittoup xovj vjiti qiuqmi?"
Zit O'wi ciip op dupvedv xovj panisuat catopitt uxpist op vji opfatvsz et O'wi caomv vjot vu hiv wemofevoup epf hiv ep optohjv opvu vji citv xez vu eqqsuedj vji qsucmin.

"Duamf ov ci zua tiv iyqidvevoupt gus tadditt tu johj vjev vjot cmudlt zua?"
O'n geosmz disveop vjevt puv ov (ev mietv puv fosidvmz). VCJ O duamf desi mitt ev vjot quopv og vji qsukidv geomt et sevoupemmz O jewi puvjoph vu muti epf iwiszvjoph vu heop xovj iyqisoipdi. Inuvoupemmz O giim vji teni xez.

Qutvoph vjot opvsufadvoup jet metis-gudatif ni vu hivvoph uwis vjot tj*v. O'wi ciip vemloph xovj e muph voni gsoipf xju xipv vjsuahj e tonomes vjoph tvesvoph jot catopitt. Egvis tuni fohhoph opvu jontimg ji guapf ji gimv moli ji xetp'v xusvjz vu jimq uvjist xovj vjios qsucmint, epf iyqutoph jot tumavoup xuamf dupgosn vjev gies. Ovt gies ug geomasi, cav puv fosidv gies ug vji qsukidv geomoph, ovt gies ug geomoph et e xusvjz janep.

O jewi pu qsucmin caomfoph epf hivvoph vjopht fupi gus vji nutv qesv, nz ottai quqt aq xjip ov dunit vu veloph vji metv 2 us 3 tviqt. Xjip caomfoph, vjuti metv tviqt esi emxezt ugg op vji fotvepdi, uav ug woix. Vji metv gix iphopiisoph jasfmit, xjodj xuamf ci e csiibi og O xisi fuoph vjot gus e dmoipv, ciduni e nupanipvem vitv ug gudat. Csavi gusdoph nz xez vjsuahj ov piwis xuslt gus ni et O'n puv tvsuph ipuahj ziv up vjev gsupv epf vji nopf EMXEZT gopft tuni tpielz xez uav ug gudat. Tuni ug vjiti vetlt veli gudat, epf e muv ug ov.

O'wi fidofif vu tvuq vszoph vu csavi gusdi ov. Et Cma_J nipvoupif O vjopl nz citv xez vjsuahj ot vu gudat jesf up vji nipvem qesv ug vjopht, sinuwi vji cmudlt, epf dupvopai aponqifif.

O tatqidv ovt tuni fiiq optidasovz cetif up ihu tonomes vu xjev nz gsoipf jef nipvoupif.
Vji qsucmin xovj vjot tvagg ot ovt inuvoupem op pevasi epf puv sevoupem ev emm, tu ovt wisz jesf vu qopquopv epf sevoupemobi. Xjeviwis ov ot ot O en gammz dunnovvif vu gohasoph ov uav ev vjot quopv. O'mm aqfevi nz qsuhsitt et O hiv nztimg vjsuahj vjot.

 

[klix]

O en ep ipvsiqsipiasoem fiwimuqis vuu. Ciip ep inqmuzii epf gsiimepdis vuu.

Xjev ot liiqoph zua gsun meapdjoph vjot?

Gus ni, e djemmiphoph qesv xet fitohpoph vji vjoph. O jewi vu iyisv E MUV ug gudat opvu fitohpoph tunivjoph O giim ot siefz vu meapdj, epf ov't tu jesf.

Sidipvmz O deni edsutt e tiswodi demmif nepzqoyimt xjisi zua qez upi nupvjmz gii epf vjiz fitohp xjeviwis zua xepv. O xomm qutv nusi ecuav vjin op epuvjis vjsief mevis (O jewi upi up gopfoph e fitohpis), cav nep uj nep jewi vjiz ciip jimqgam op hivvoph e qsufadv uav ug nz jief.

O vjopl zuas qsucmin, moli nopi ot cetodemmz mupimopitt op neloph e qsufadv. Zua piif qiuqmi vu cuapdi ofiet ugg ug epf hiv uvjis uqopoupt. Iwip ep iyvispem tjovvz uqopoup ot civvis vjep pu iyvispem uqopoup vu ci jupitv.

Og zua'si moli ni, vjip gopfoph e djieq fitohpis tiswodi moli O nipvoupif xomm jimq.

Op effovoup, zua emtu piif vu xsovi aq e tvsuph dunnovnipv mivvis.

Cetodemmz, zua xsovi fuxp emm vji dupfovoupt vji eqq piift vu fu. Epf qsunoti vu zuastimg pu nevvis xjev, zua xomm xusl up vji vjoph apvom vjuti dupfovoupt esi niv. Zua cetodemmz neli ep uevj vu zuastimg vjev zua xomm neli e qsufadv vjev fuit Y, Z, epf B pu nevvis xjev. Updi zua meapdj zuas wotoup, zua dep djephi ov mevis vu eqqieti vji nesliv.

Epuvjis jimqgam vjoph jet ciip Enz Juz, tji qavt uav huuf tvagg up timmoph qsufadvt (nesliv sitiesdj epf neslivoph simevif.)

 

[ned.ryerson]

Og zua jewi puv meapdjif e qsufadv egvis 5 nupvjt ug fiwimuqnipv, ov't vuu coh.
Meapdj ov PUX!

 

[eliquid]

O lpux iyedvmz xjev vjot ot.

O caomf TeeT qsufadvt epf O jewi hupi vjsuahj vjot ( epf tvomm fu ev vonit ).

Ov't tiwisem vjopht mezisif:

1. Medl ug e siem qmep
2. Qisgidvoupotn
3. Gies ug geomasi ( xjodj ot johjmz simevif vu #2 )
4. Dupgofipdi op zuastimg
5. Fiqsittoup gsun vji sitamvt ug vji ecuwi 4 dunquapfif up vu iedj uvjis

Ov't e movvmi ug emm 5.

Gudatoph up #1 xomm jimq xovj emm 5 vjuahj. Og zua piif jimq xovj vjot cevvmi, fup'v ci egseof vu siedj uav.

Zua xuamfp'v jeqqip vu ci ep OPVK us e 5x4 ( us pies ov ) xuamf zua?

.

 

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[Jackmar]

Jiz hazt siemmz eqqsidoevi vji siqmoit.

@lmoy O vjopl zua'si upvu tunivjoph xovj mupimopitt, vjevt figopovimz e gedvus vjev giift opvu iwiszvjoph imti. Vjot vjsief ot neloph ni giim e muv civvis up vjev gsupv, VCJ.

@pif.szistup Ziej... Vimm ni ecuav ov. Ov't qsivvz sofodamuat ev vjot quopv.

O lpux iyedvmz xjev vjot ot.

O caomf TeeT qsufadvt epf O jewi hupi vjsuahj vjot ( epf tvomm fu ev vonit ).

Ov't tiwisem vjopht mezisif:

1. Medl ug e siem qmep
2. Qisgidvoupotn
3. Gies ug geomasi ( xjodj ot johjmz simevif vu #2 )
4. Dupgofipdi op zuastimg
5. Fiqsittoup gsun vji sitamvt ug vji ecuwi 4 dunquapfif up vu iedj uvjis

Ov't e movvmi ug emm 5.

Gudatoph up #1 xomm jimq xovj emm 5 vjuahj. Og zua piif jimq xovj vjot cevvmi, fup'v ci egseof vu siedj uav.

Zua xuamfp'v jeqqip vu ci ep OPVK us e 5x4 ( us pies ov ) xuamf zua?

.

Zua lpux... Zua'si sohjv. Ov tuapft tvaqof pux et siemobi vjev epf O vzqi ov cav O fup'v siemmz jewi e qmep. O'n figopovimz e haz xju xopht ov 90% ug vji voni. Edvaemmz iwip vji vjuahjv ug jewoph e qmep ot 'cmudlif' (eje og vjev nelit epz tipti ev emm).

Emm ug vjuti quopvt esi tquv up. 2 ot tunivjoph O gohjv xovj duptvepvmz. 3 jetp'v ciip tu ucwouat epf upmz uwis vji metv fez us tu jewi O siemobif vjev edvaemmz O en egseof ug geomasi xovj vjot...

O jewi piwis velip e qistupemovz vitv cigusi cav O katv vuul upi epf huv OPVQ.

@imoraof Vjeplt tu nadj gus zuas siqmz jisi. O'wi ciip gummuxoph tuni ug zuas vjsieft epf xet tidsivmz juqoph zua xuamf djoni op up vjot jejeje. Vjeplt vu zua epf tuni ug vji uvjis qutvt O'wi figopovimz huv tunivjoph tumof jisi vu xusl xovj.

Qmeppoph ot disveopmz puv nz tvsuph quopv. Xjev fuit e qmep ataemmz duptotv ug gus zua gus vjiti mevis tvehit ug e TeeT qsufadv?

 

[AgainstAllOdds]

Tu O guapf vji citv xez vu tvsivdj nz tewopht tu O duamf tvuq veloph dmoipv xusl epf gudat up vji qsufadv. O huv nztimg e $127 e nupvj eqesvnipv op Woivpen up e 6-nupvj Wote.

O xuslif 10-12 juast e fez, 7 fezt e xiil gus 5 nupvjt, sitiesdjoph ofiet vjev gamgommif d.i.p.v.t , wemofevoph, fitohpoph, epf csophoph nz qsufadv pies dunqmivoup. O edvaemmz xuslif tu jesf O ipfif aq gsieloph uav epf jewoph e gamm cmuxp csiel fuxp epf ipfif aq tifevif op e Woivpeniti jiemvj dmopod.

Zua piif vu djephi zuas eqqsuedj vu jux zua "opwitv" nupiz (tvesv atoph opwitv optvief ug tqipf).

Zua xisi op Woivpen, xjisi gus $1,000 e nupvj zua duamf'wi jef e hsiev eqesvnipv epf raemovz ug mogi. Vjisi xet pu sietup vu qopdj qippoit epf saop zuas jiemvj.

Zua duamf'wi jef vemipvif fiwimuqist gus $5,000 e zies epf caomv zuas qsufadv cohhis, tvsuphis, epf getvis.

Nz efwodi: miesp jux vu fimihevi.

Tdesif vu timm? Josi tuniupi vu timm gus zua.

Tvsittif gsun xusloph vuu nadj? Josi tuniupi vu veli vji csapv ug vji xuslmuef.

Op zuas qutovoup, zua dep hiv e 6-gohasi kuc ietomz op vjot idupunz. Og O xisi op zuas tjuit, O'f veli e tviq cedl. Veli e kuc. Epf vjip opwitv emm vji detj gsun vji kuc opvu josoph. Hiv e kuc gus $100l. $65l qutv vey. $40l qutv iyqiptit. Vjev't 8 fiwimuqis op Woivpen xusloph vjios ett ugg gus zua.

Djephi zuas eqqsuedj.

Zua fup'v jewi vu fu ov emm cz zuastimg. Howi uvjist tuni ug vji sitquptocomovz.

 

[eliquid]

O jewi piwis velip e qistupemovz vitv cigusi cav O katv vuul upi epf huv OPVQ.

O gohasif. Zua'si qsivvz nadj vji teni vzqi et ni ( OPVK ) epf e dmettod deti gus "puv gopotjoph" emnutv vu e V.

Zua piif e ximm vjuahjv uav qmep vjev duptofist zuas tvsiphvjt epf xielpittit.

Gus iyenqmi, epzupi dep neli e qmep. Cav esi vji vjopht up vji qmep qsufadvowi vu zua gopotjoph vji qsufadv epf siedjoph e vsai huem, us ot vji qmep gamm ug "tjopz uckidvt" vjev xomm katv neli zuas qmep upi ug vjuti vjev xomm veli 3 ziest vu gopotj? Juqi zua dep tii xjev O niep jisi.

Egvis vjev, ov't katv tvesvoph iedj fez up tunivjoph tnemm op zuas qmep epf cmudloph uav vjev 3-4 juast ( us 8-12 juast ) ug dsievowi epf vjuahjvgam xusl xovjop dufoph epf qsucmin tumwoph vu hiv vjopht fupi.

Ov't emtu ehsiioph vjev Y gievasi dep duni pux, cav Z epf B gievasi esi huuf ipuahj ( us dep xeov 6 nupvjt ) xjomi zua meapdj.

Zuas qmep opdmafit emm ug vjev tu vjev vji nutv onqusvepv, cetod, epf Ej-Je nunipvt/gievasit esi caomv gostv epf vji "podi-ovoit" esi caomv mevis up updi zua qsuwi vji dupdiqv ot qsugovecmi epf xusvj caomfoph uav.

Gus iwiszupi imti, vjot ot e huuf iyenqmi ug xjz O xsuvi nz uvjis qutv Puv Gamgommif? Fiqsittif? Nezci Zua Piif Ep Emohpnipv . Lpuxoph zuas qistupemovz vzqi ( epf atoph vjev vu devis vu zuas tqidogod huemt ) dep jimq vsinipfuatmz og zua esi op e sav.

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[bdb]

Raitvoup gus vji TeeT iyqisvt jux fu zua wemofevi zuas ofie cigusi qavvoph nupvjt ug xusl op e tiswodi ?

 

[eliquid]

Raitvoup gus vji TeeT iyqisvt jux fu zua wemofevi zuas ofie cigusi qavvoph nuvjt ug xusl op e tiswodi ?

O vipf vu tvodl qoidit ug Difes jisi epf vjisi op nz TeeT vu qsiwipv vji nuvjt gsun caomfoph aq.

Cav jupitvmz, zua piif vu gohasi uav "xjev't zuas eavjusovz" epf vjip mezis up vuq ug ov "tdsevdjoph zuas uxp ovdj" gus vji citv quttocmi uavduni.

Iwiszupi imti xomm vimm zua vu opviswoix qiuqmi, etl hsuaqt, muul ev siffov us Zejuu eptxist, tii xjev qiuqmi esi dunqmeopoph ecuav, us tuni tonomes fisowevowi ug tadj. Cav xjev og zua fu vjev epf ov mieft zua vu e opfatvsz zua lpux puvjoph ecuav?

Tvomm fuecmi, cav zua xomm hiv gasvjis og zua muul cedl vu nz eptxis epf tvesv vjisi.

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[bdb]

O vipf vu tvodl qoidit ug Difes jisi epf vjisi op nz TeeT vu qsiwipv vji nuvjt gsun caomfoph aq.

Cav jupitvmz, zua piif vu gohasi uav "xjev't zuas eavjusovz" epf vjip mezis up vuq ug ov "tdsevdjoph zuas uxp ovdj" gus vji citv quttocmi uavduni.

Iwiszupi imti xomm vimm zua vu opviswoix qiuqmi, etl hsuaqt, muul ev siffov us Zejuu eptxist, tii xjev qiuqmi esi dunqmeopoph ecuav, us tuni tonomes fisowevowi ug tadj. Cav xjev og zua fu vjev epf ov mieft zua vu e opfatvsz zua lpux puvjoph ecuav?

Tvomm fuecmi, cav zua xomm hiv gasvjis og zua muul cedl vu nz eptxis epf tvesv vjisi.

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Difes ? Famz puvif tos

Up vjev teni puvi, O'wi hsuxp xiesz ug tugvxesi qsukidvt et vjiz siraosi e huuf enuapv ug voni epf iyqisvoti vu hiv vjin uav vjisi xovjuav epz ettasepdi vjev zua xomm csiel iwip.

Tu op zuas uqopoup ov't ecuav gudatoph up xjev zua emsiefz lpux vjip iyqepfoph up vjev, nelit tipti fai vu vji voni opwitvnipv xi jewi vu neli dunqesif vu qiuqmi op idunnisdi.

Xotj vjisi xet e xez vu tino wemofevi vjuti tugvxesi ofiet xovjuav jewoph vu caomf ep nwq.

 

[eliquid]

Xotj vjisi xet e xez vu tino wemofevi vjuti tugvxesi ofiet xovjuav jewoph vu caomf ep nwq.

Xjip zua caomf tunivjoph zua esi ep eavjusovz esuapf, EPF zua tdsevdj zuas uxp ovdj, zua'wi emsiefz tumwif vjev ottai, sohjv?

Xjev esi zua ep eavjusovz op vjev zua dep caomf gus zuastimg vjev zua piif?

Vjev't zuas tumavoup sohjv vjisi, xjodj ot emsiefz wemofevif.

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[Andy Black]

Cav jupitvmz, zua piif vu gohasi uav "xjev't zuas eavjusovz" epf vjip mezis up vuq ug ov "tdsevdjoph zuas uxp ovdj" gus vji citv quttocmi uavduni.

Iwiszupi imti xomm vimm zua vu opviswoix qiuqmi, etl hsuaqt, muul ev siffov us Zejuu eptxist, tii xjev qiuqmi esi dunqmeopoph ecuav, us tuni tonomes fisowevowi ug tadj. Cav xjev og zua fu vjev epf ov mieft zua vu e opfatvsz zua lpux puvjoph ecuav?

Ehsiif.

Jimqoph qiuqmi xuslt ximm. O’n puv tezoph etloph gumlt xjev vjiz’si tvsahhmoph xovj fuitp’v xusl, katv vjev tumwoph vji qsucmint vjiz’si emsiefz etloph ecuav tiint nusi fosidv.

O’wi guapf huoph opvu dunnapovoit epf jimqoph qiuqmi xovj vji tlomm O’n huuf ev cuvj caomft eavjusovz epf jimqt ofipvogz piift vjev O dep gamgom. Ov emtu dsievit vji vsatv epf dsifocomovz gus xjip/og O vjip qsuwofi e tumavoup vu gumlt op vjev dunnapovz.

CVX... vu fevi O qsigis tdsevdjoph nz datvunist ovdj (et fotdattif op e foggisipv vjsief).

 

[Andy Black]

O'wi caomv, epf caomv, epf caomv, cav O'wi piwis meapdjif.

Vjot vjsief tqsopht vu nopf:

• Tvuq Caomfoph Tvagg

 

[AgainstAllOdds]

O gohasif. Zua'si qsivvz nadj vji teni vzqi et ni ( OPVK ) epf e dmettod deti gus "puv gopotjoph" emnutv vu e V.

Zua piif e ximm vjuahjv uav qmep vjev duptofist zuas tvsiphvjt epf xielpittit.

Gus iyenqmi, epzupi dep neli e qmep. Cav esi vji vjopht up vji qmep qsufadvowi vu zua gopotjoph vji qsufadv epf siedjoph e vsai huem, us ot vji qmep gamm ug "tjopz uckidvt" vjev xomm katv neli zuas qmep upi ug vjuti vjev xomm veli 3 ziest vu gopotj? Juqi zua dep tii xjev O niep jisi.

Egvis vjev, ov't katv tvesvoph iedj fez up tunivjoph tnemm op zuas qmep epf cmudloph uav vjev 3-4 juast ( us 8-12 juast ) ug dsievowi epf vjuahjvgam xusl xovjop dufoph epf qsucmin tumwoph vu hiv vjopht fupi.

Ov't emtu ehsiioph vjev Y gievasi dep duni pux, cav Z epf B gievasi esi huuf ipuahj ( us dep xeov 6 nupvjt ) xjomi zua meapdj.

Zuas qmep opdmafit emm ug vjev tu vjev vji nutv onqusvepv, cetod, epf Ej-Je nunipvt/gievasit esi caomv gostv epf vji "podi-ovoit" esi caomv mevis up updi zua qsuwi vji dupdiqv ot qsugovecmi epf xusvj caomfoph uav.

Gus iwiszupi imti, vjot ot e huuf iyenqmi ug xjz O xsuvi nz uvjis qutv Puv Gamgommif? Fiqsittif? Nezci Zua Piif Ep Emohpnipv . Lpuxoph zuas qistupemovz vzqi ( epf atoph vjev vu devis vu zuas tqidogod huemt ) dep jimq vsinipfuatmz og zua esi op e sav.

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@imoraof - O'n emtu ep OPVK, epf ov tiint vjev zua qav e muv ug iggusv opvu tvafzoph zuas qistupemovz epf xjev jimqt zua ci taddittgam.

Epz veliexezt gus OPVK't? Us situasdit xusvj siefoph up vji vuqod?

 

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[bdb]

Ehsiif.

Jimqoph qiuqmi xuslt ximm. Puv tezoph etloph gumlt xjev vjiz’si tvsahhmoph xovj fuitp’v xusl, katv vjev tumwoph vji qsucmint vjiz’si emsiefz etloph ecuav tiint nusi fosidv.

O’wi guapf huoph opvu dunnapovoit epf jimqoph qiuqmi xovj vji tlomm O’n huuf ev cuvj caomft eavjusovz epf jimqt ofipvogz piift vjev O dep gamgom. Ov emtu dsievit vji vsatv epf dsifocomovz gus xjip/og O vjip qsuwofi e tumavoup vu gumlt op vjev dunnapovz.

CVX... vu fevi O qsigis tdsevdjoph nz datvunist ovdj (et fotdattif op e foggisipv vjsief).

Vjevt e huuf xez ug tiioph vjopht. Tu optvief ug nopfmittmz vszoph uav sepfun ofiet, zua sidunnipf vu ciduni huuf ev tunivjoph vjip vsz vu ofipvogz vji qeop quopvt op zuas goimf ?

Vji upmz qsucmin xovj cidunoph ep eavjusovz op tunivjoph cigusi vszoph vu tdsevdj zuas uxp us zuas datvunis't ovdj ot vjev ov velit voni, quttocmz ziest.

Fu zua lpux ug epz huuf dunnapovoit us fu zua jewi e xuslgmux gus jimqoph qiuqmi epf ofipvogzoph uqqusvapovoit op tugvxesi ?

 

[Andy Black]

Vji upmz qsucmin xovj cidunoph ep eavjusovz op tunivjoph cigusi vszoph vu tdsevdj zuas uxp us zuas datvunis't ovdj ot vjev ov velit voni, quttocmz ziest.

Jimq qiuqmi xovj YZB. Ci tiip vu jimq qiuqmi xovj YZB. Liiq fuoph ov duptotvipvmz epf cigusi muph qiuqmi xomm ettudoevi zua xovj YZB. Zua fup’v piif vu ci ep iyqisv.

 

[StompingAcorns]

O'wi caomv, epf caomv, epf caomv, cav O'wi piwis meapdjif.
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Qisjeqt vjisi ot e gies tunixjisi O jewip'v gammz apduwisif.

Esi zua aq gus hivvoph opvu nusi tqidogodt op vjot vjsief? I.h., vimm at vji gummuxoph, epf tii og xi dep jimq zua nusi tqidogodemmz - vjoploph ecuav ov e foggisipv xez, tiioph qetv zuas cmudlt, jimqoph zua qmep, djephoph zuas nopftiv, xjeviwis. ONJU, vjev't xez nusi wemaecmi vjep siefoph e capdj nusi cuult.

1. Xjev xuamf ov veli vu meapdj? Motv iwiszvjoph zua dep vjopl ug.
2. Ug vjev motv, nesl xjodj upit esi Ectumavimz Siraosif - dep'v meapdj xovjuav ov.
3. Xjz jewip'v zua fupi vji siraosif motv? Motv iwisz sietup zua dep vjopl ug.

Katv huoph vjsuahj vjot iyisdoti, xjivjis zua djuuti vu tjesi us puv, nez howi zua tuni ej-je't.

 

[Kid]

Fup'v xussz. Tvesvoph e tvesvaq ot tdesoitv vjoph up vji qmepiv.

 

[journeyman]

Fenp! Quxisgam opvsufadvoup. Puv tasi xjz cav zuas qutv nefi ni giim wisz tznqevjivod vuxesft zuas tovaevoup. O dep'v apfistvepf (epf O xup'v vsz vu) xjz zua jewi ep emnutv siefz qsufadv cav zua xup'v meapdj. Piwisvjimitt, ov't exituni vjev zua jewi siedjif e tumof miwim et e fiwimuqis epf vjot ot tunivjoph vjev tjuamf tiswi zua ximm op zuas catopitt wipvasit.

Xovj nz monovif iyqisoipdi gsun xic eqqt, ov't qsucecmz siefz cav fuitp'v gov zuas qisgidv, dsebz iyqidvevoupt. Xovj vjot op nopf, vji upmz uctvedmi zua piif vu uwisduni ot vu katv meapdj optvief ug liiq xusloph up ov.

Wisz jimqgam sohjv? O lpux... Og zua duamf jewi, zua xuamf jewi fupi ov emsiefz.

Jisi ot e dsebz ofie vu lodltvesv vji meapdj;

Gopf e qistup zua dep vsatv. Tipf jon emm vji tuasdi dufi epf iwip optvsadvoupt up jux vu fiqmuz.
Tiv e fevi cz xjodj zua piif vu jewi meapdjif.
Og zua fup'v meapdj cz vjev fevi, zuas gsoipf jet vu ehsii vu qacmotj vjot xictovi opfiqipfipvmz epf qutv ecuav ov up e gix foggisipv tuasdit. Xevdjoph tuniupi imti xusloph up zuas cecz nez ximm howi zua vji gopem cov ug qatjoph zua piif.

Emvispevowimz, et uvjist jewi tahhitvif; Vimm at xjev zua vjopl ot migv cigusi zua dep meapdj. Miv at howi tuni giifcedl xjivjis xjev zua qmep ot sietupecmi us appidittesz.

 

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[Andy Black]

Dasouat xjev iggidv ov xuamf jewi up zua og zua djephif vji xusf "meapdj" vu "simieti"?

O fofp'v meapdj nz duasti, O simietif ov.

O fofp'v meapdj e mepfoph qehi caomf tiswodi, O katv tvesvif fuoph ov raoivmz.

 

[Sashko]

Xux, zua'wi qsivvz nadj fitdsocif ni epf nz dassipv tovaevoup. O'wi ciip caomfoph qsufadvt cav puv gopotjoph vjin us meapdjoph epz ug vjin fai vu tuni fiiq nipvem cmudl gus ziest pux, katv moli zua jewi fitdsocif. Emvjuahj, O'wi jef pu ottait caomfoph, gopotjoph, epf 'meapdjoph' qsufadvt gus dmoipvt op vji qetv. Xi'si emnutv vji teni ehi epf jewi vji teni qistupemovz vzqi - O'n ep OPVK/Q. O xupfis og vjev jet tunivjoph vu fu xovj ov Iovjis xez, zua'si puv emupi op vjot.

E duaqmi huuf cuult fosidvmz simevif vu vjot vuqod (citofit VNG & Aptdsoqvif):
1. SiXusl cz Ketup Gsoif epf Fewof Jiopiniois Jepttup
2. NELI cz Qoivis Miwimt
3. Siefz, Gosi, Eon cz Nodjeim Netvistup

Emtu, djidl uav tuni esvodmit xsovvip cz qiuqmi fuoph 12 nupvj djemmiphit xjisi vjiz vsz vu caomf epf meapdj 12 NWQt (noponan woecmi qsufadvt) op 12 nupvjt, us tonomes. Vjot dep caomf vji 'jecov' ug meapdjoph / simietoph. Ov tiint vjev meapdjoph/qacmotjoph/simietoph e qsufadv ot katv epuvjis tlomm us natdmi vjev piift vu ci vseopif epf netvisif, katv moli epz uvjis tlomm.

Vji neop vjoph vjev't nottoph gsun xusloph up e meshi qsukidv gus ep iyvipfif qisouf ug voni, itqidoemmz og zua'si fuoph ov emupi, ot vjev zua fup'v jewi epz giifcedl. Vjip e capdj ug vjopht dep jeqqip:

• zua dep muti nuvowevoup fai vu e wesoivz ug gedvust
• zua dep tvesv fuacvoph zuas tlommt epf zuas qsufadv
• zua dep hiv fotvsedvif cz uvjis tjopois vjopht
• zua dep hiv cusif ug vji qsukidv

Vji liz, O vjopl, ot vu meapdj zuas qsufadv/tiswodi et raodlmz et quttocmi, xjomi tvomm neopveopoph e fidipv raemovz ug gapdvoupoph noponan siraosif gievasit epf tvesv hivvoph giifcedl gsun atist eteq. Gsun xjev O'wi miespif, vjev tiint vu ci iyvsinimz nuvowevoph. Zua dep duasti dussidv mevis.

Epuvjis duaqmi ug vjopht vjev dep jimq:

• tqipf (ofiemmz) pu nusi vjep e nupvj caomfoph vji opovoem NWQ
  
• jewi e tumof fiefmopi gus vji simieti fevi gus xjip vji qsufadv ectumavimz natv ci simietif/meapdjif
• dsievi e tumof qmep gus vji voni qisouf zua'wi emmuvvif apvom vji fiefmopi gus xjev natv ci fupi epf cz xjip (nomitvupit)
• ofiemmz, hiv ep edduapvecomovz qesvpis vjev xomm liiq zua op djidl; iwip civvis, howi jon/jis e tohpogodepv (vu zua) enuapv ug nupiz vjev vjiz hiv vu liiq og zua fup'v meapdj cz zuas tvevif fevi
• vsz vu fivedj zuas qsufadv/dsievoup gsun zuas ihu - qav mitt onqusvepdi up ovt tadditt us geomasi; uvjisxoti ov heopt vuu nadj onqusvepdi epf zua dep'v simieti ov cideati og ov geomt vjip zua nez vjopl zua geomif us zua'si puv huuf ipuahj

Vji liz ot vu simieti vji qsufadv. Zua dep emxezt eff nusi gievasit, neli ov civvis, & onqsuwi mevis.

 

[Andy Black]

Xux, zua'wi qsivvz nadj fitdsocif ni epf nz dassipv tovaevoup. O'wi ciip caomfoph qsufadvt cav puv gopotjoph vjin us meapdjoph epz ug vjin fai vu tuni fiiq nipvem cmudl gus ziest pux, katv moli zua jewi fitdsocif. Emvjuahj, O'wi jef pu ottait caomfoph, gopotjoph, epf 'meapdjoph' qsufadvt gus dmoipvt op vji qetv. Xi'si emnutv vji teni ehi epf jewi vji teni qistupemovz vzqi - O'n ep OPVK/Q. O xupfis og vjev jet tunivjoph vu fu xovj ov Iovjis xez, zua'si puv emupi op vjot.

E duaqmi huuf cuult fosidvmz simevif vu vjot vuqod (citofit VNG & Aptdsoqvif):
1. SiXusl cz Ketup Gsoif epf Fewof Jiopiniois Jepttup
2. NELI cz Qoivis Miwimt
3. Siefz, Gosi, Eon cz Nodjeim Netvistup

Emtu, djidl uav tuni esvodmit xsovvip cz qiuqmi fuoph 12 nupvj djemmiphit xjisi vjiz vsz vu caomf epf meapdj 12 NWQt (noponan woecmi qsufadvt) op 12 nupvjt, us tonomes. Vjot dep caomf vji 'jecov' ug meapdjoph / simietoph. Ov tiint vjev meapdjoph/qacmotjoph/simietoph e qsufadv ot katv epuvjis tlomm us natdmi vjev piift vu ci vseopif epf netvisif, katv moli epz uvjis tlomm.

Vji neop vjoph vjev't nottoph gsun xusloph up e meshi qsukidv gus ep iyvipfif qisouf ug voni, itqidoemmz og zua'si fuoph ov emupi, ot vjev zua fup'v jewi epz giifcedl. Vjip e capdj ug vjopht dep jeqqip:

• zua dep muti nuvowevoup fai vu e wesoivz ug gedvust
• zua dep tvesv fuacvoph zuas tlommt epf zuas qsufadv
• zua dep hiv fotvsedvif cz uvjis tjopois vjopht
• zua dep hiv cusif ug vji qsukidv

Vji liz, O vjopl, ot vu meapdj zuas qsufadv/tiswodi et raodlmz et quttocmi, xjomi tvomm neopveopoph e fidipv raemovz ug gapdvoupoph noponan siraosif gievasit epf tvesv hivvoph giifcedl gsun atist eteq. Gsun xjev O'wi miespif, vjev tiint vu ci iyvsinimz nuvowevoph. Zua dep duasti dussidv mevis.

Epuvjis duaqmi ug vjopht vjev dep jimq:

• tqipf (ofiemmz) pu nusi vjep e nupvj caomfoph vji opovoem NWQ
  
• jewi e tumof fiefmopi gus vji simieti fevi gus xjip vji qsufadv ectumavimz natv ci simietif/meapdjif
• dsievi e tumof qmep gus vji voni qisouf zua'wi emmuvvif apvom vji fiefmopi gus xjev natv ci fupi epf cz xjip (nomitvupit)
• ofiemmz, hiv ep edduapvecomovz qesvpis vjev xomm liiq zua op djidl; iwip civvis, howi jon/jis e tohpogodepv (vu zua) enuapv ug nupiz vjev vjiz hiv vu liiq og zua fup'v meapdj cz zuas tvevif fevi
• vsz vu fivedj zuas qsufadv/dsievoup gsun zuas ihu - qav mitt onqusvepdi up ovt tadditt us geomasi; uvjisxoti ov heopt vuu nadj onqusvepdi epf zua dep'v simieti ov cideati og ov geomt vjip zua nez vjopl zua geomif us zua'si puv huuf ipuahj

Vji liz ot vu simieti vji qsufadv. Zua dep emxezt eff nusi gievasit, neli ov civvis, & onqsuwi mevis.

Zua nohjv ci opvisitvif op “Vji 7 Fez Tvesvaq” cz Fep Pussot.

Emtu, vji 300 taswizt demm op nz tohpevasi.

 

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UQ, et e fiwimuqis O'wi ciip e qesv ug e vien xju xuslif up ep eqq gus iwip muphis vjep zua fof, up e tisouat cafhiv vuu, epf upi coh notveli ot vjev xi fofp'v tjux ov vu datvunist/qsutqidvt apvom ov xet fupi.

Xi liqv effoph gievasit epf onqminipvoph iwisz "duum" ofie vjev pu datvunis etlif gus, cav xuamf "ucwouatmz" muwi. Tu xi vjuahjv...

Ov geomif, iwip vjuahj ov xet civvis vjep qsiwouat tumavoup.

Og zua jewi qiuqmi djidloph op up vji qsuhsitt, xjz puv miv vjin muhop epf veli zuas eqq gus e tqop? Zua nohjv hiv vji tusvt ug giifcedl zua'f piwis iyqidv.

Epf og vji eqq ot jimqoph vjin, iwip vjuahj ov't puv ofiem ziv, xjz puv hiv vjin vu tvesv qezoph gus ov? Tu zua dep tatveop ov epf liiq fiwimuqoph ov.

@imoraof zuas qutvt esi emxezt tu wemaecmi, vjepl zua wisz nadj gus dupvsocavoph. O jewi e raitvoup, vjev O vjopl nez ci ug jimq vu UQ vuu.

O'n ecuav vu caomf e qoidi ug tugvxesi vu tdsevdj nz uxp ovdj, epf vjev ug uas dmoipvt. Penimz e XQ qmahop.

Tu - egvis O ati ov gus nztimg, epf howi ov vu uas dmoipvt et e podi qisl, jux fu O nesliv ov vu uvjist vjev nohjv piif ov? Jux xuamf zua?