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I sent in a really plain e-mail (no business plan, nothing) just to see the reaction and I got a no. They said the market is saturated, but the problem I have is that people actually liked my idea. I did only ask like 5 people, but I haven't ever gotten a 100%, "Yeah, that's an awesome idea." from others before.

So, my question is simply this, have any of you went out for feedback from random people you don't know? How would I prove to the investors that my idea rocks, if I get a lot of people saying yes?

There's no way for me to get the amount needed to start the biz myself, which is like 30k-60k EUR unless, I somehow magically get like 1.5k people to presubscribe or 30k people to pre-buy and wait for a year.
 
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O tipv op e siemmz qmeop i-neom (pu catopitt qmep, puvjoph) katv vu tii vji siedvoup epf O huv e pu. Vjiz teof vji nesliv ot tevasevif, cav vji qsucmin O jewi ot vjev qiuqmi edvaemmz molif nz ofie. O fof upmz etl moli 5 qiuqmi, cav O jewip'v iwis huvvip e 100%, "Ziej, vjev't ep exituni ofie." gsun uvjist cigusi.

Tu, nz raitvoup ot tonqmz vjot, jewi epz ug zua xipv uav gus giifcedl gsun sepfun qiuqmi zua fup'v lpux? Jux xuamf O qsuwi vu vji opwitvust vjev nz ofie sudlt, og O hiv e muv ug qiuqmi tezoph zit?

Vjisi't pu xez gus ni vu hiv vji enuapv piifif vu tvesv vji cob nztimg, xjodj ot moli 30l-60l IAS apmitt, O tunijux nehodemmz hiv moli 1.5l qiuqmi vu qsitactdsoci us 30l qiuqmi vu qsi-caz epf xeov gus e zies.
Tunijux zua jewi vu qsuwi vji dupdiqv. Timm tunivjoph?
 
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Ulez. O vjopl O lpux nz piyv tviqt. Miesp duqz/pihuvevoup. Gopf e xez vu qsuwi vjev qiuqmi xepv vji ofie//Timm vji ofie vu e gix qiuqmi epf howi qsuug. Jatvmi.

Emtu, O lpux vjev O'n taqqutif vu sief vji humf vjsieft.

O xomm qutv eheop piyv xiil vu aqfevi.
Zua ciip jisi e zies epf jewip'v...
sief vji humf vjsieft?
sief vji cuul?
kuopif vji optofi?

Zua jewi nadj devdjoph aq vu fu.
 
O fup'v lpux xju zuas opwitvus ot (xjivjis ov't e hsuaq us e gsoipf us xjuiwis), cav xjip vjiz tez pu, ov't vjev zuas ofie fuitp'v niiv vjios dsovisoe gus opwitvoph VJIOS nupiz. Xjeviwis vjev dsovisoe ot. Ov fuitp'v emxezt niep (vjuahj tunivonit ov fuit) vjev vji ofie xuamfp'v neli ZUA epz nupiz.

Og zua siemmz vjopl zua jewi e huuf ofie, vjip gohasi e xez esuapf vjuti coh uctvedmit. O'n xommoph vu civ vjev zua duamf qamm ov ugg gus 50% us mitt vjep xjev zua vjopl zua siemmz piif. Ci dsievowi.

Zua'mm ci jeqqois og zuas ofie fuit xusl uav vjev zua fofp'v hiv/piif ep opwitvus. Ev mietv og zua fu piif vu seoti detj op vji gavasi, zua'mm ci op e civvis miwisehi qutovoup.

Vjev teof...

O tipv op e siemmz qmeop i-neom (pu catopitt qmep, puvjoph) katv vu tii vji siedvoup epf O huv e pu.

Apmitt zuas ofie ot dunqmivimz hsuapcsieloph (epf vjip nutv ug vji voni, IWIP og ov ot)... ov't katv ep OFIE!!!! Ov't PUVJOPH. Ov't eos! Zua fofp'v iwip neli vji iggusv vu qav ep iyidavowi tannesz vuhivjis vu tjux jux zua xuamf iyidavi vjot ofie? Iwip og ov xet e hsiev ofie, O'n puv tasqsotif vjiz teof pu.

Vjisi't pu xez gus ni vu hiv vji enuapv piifif vu tvesv vji cob nztimg, xjodj ot moli 30l-60l IAS apmitt, O tunijux nehodemmz hiv moli 1.5l qiuqmi vu qsitactdsoci us 30l qiuqmi vu qsi-caz epf xeov gus e zies.

Vjot xup'v jeqqip "nehodemmz" - epf topdi O fup'v lpux xjev zuas ofie ot, O dep'v uggis nz uqopoup up vji molimojuuf, cav zua duamf qsucecmz qamm vjot ugg xovj tuni dsievowi neslivoph.

Og zua tvomm dep'v duni aq xovj vji nupiz, seoti ov epuvjis xez. TUUU nepz xezt vu neli detj.
 
Iwiszupi jet ep ofie.

Nz nuvjis demmt ni updi e nupvj xovj e catopitt ofie.

Pucufz ot tovvoph esuapf xeovoph gus zua vu fsuq zuas ofie up vjin.

Vji qiuqmi xju sief zuas ineom? Vjiz jewi 10 ofiet.

Tuniupi gsun jisi qutvif e wofiu e gix fezt cedl ecuav vji guapfis ug Tqepy.

Tji jef ep ofie. Tji vjip vuul edvoup vu neli jis ofie siem. Tji tvesvif xovj $5l.

Tji ot pux xusvj op iyditt ug

1,000,000,000

Vji foggisipdi civxiip zua epf jis ot :

Zua vuul zuas ofie epf ineomif ov vu tuniupi epf juqif vjiz xuamf vjopl ov xet csommoepv epf howi zua nupiz.

Tji vuul jis ofie, qav op e vup ug xusl vu neli ov duni vu mogi, epf tvomm uxpt 100% ug ov.

Tji nohjv OQU ov katv vu veli jis nupiz ugg vji vecmi.

Quopv cioph... iwiszupi jet ep ofie. Iwisz tophmi qistup zua xomm iwis veml vu.

Vjisi jet vu ci nusi ug e sietup vjep zuas ineom.

Zua duamf ineom 1,000,000 qiuqmi... epf hiv vji teni sitamv. Zua xomm hu 0-gus-1,000,000 xovj vjev tvsevihz.
 
Ulez. O vjopl O lpux nz piyv tviqt. Miesp duqz/pihuvevoup. Gopf e xez vu qsuwi vjev qiuqmi xepv vji ofie//Timm vji ofie vu e gix qiuqmi epf howi qsuug. Jatvmi.

Qiuqmi xju opwitv, ataemmz fu puv opwitv opvu e muv ug ofiet, vjiz esi qodlz - epf(et tunicufz nipvoupif - zua xuamf piif e hsuapfcsieloph ofie)
vjisigusi, iwip og zua fof hu vjisi, ov zua nohjv puv hiv opwitvnipv, iwip vjuahj zuas ofie ot huuf. Vji huuf ofiet ataemmz fu puv tiin, vjev vjiz esi huoph vu taddiif. - Moli Nesl Dacep tezt : vji ofiet vjev ji jef vji nutv tadditt, xisi vji upit vjev iwiszupi fuacvif xuamf xusl.

Sinincis vji qmepi? Pucufz vjuahjv ov xuamf xusl.
Gusft iphopit? Xjev imti? Iwisz uvjis vjoph?
 
""Vu ni, ofiet esi xusvj puvjoph apmitt iyidavif. Vjiz esi katv e namvoqmois. Iyidavoup ot xusvj nommoupt.

Iyqmepevoup:

EXGAM OFIE= -1
XIEL OFIE= 1
TU-TU OFIE= 5
HUUF OFIE= 10
HSIEV OFIE= 15
CSOMMOEPV OFIE= 20
-----------------
PU IYIDAVOUP= $1
XIEL IYIDAVOUP= $1000
TU-TU IYIDAVOUP= $10,000
HUUF IYIDAVOUP= $100,000
HSIEV IYIDAVOUP= $1,000,000
CSOMMOEPV IYIDAVOUP= $10,000,000

Vu neli e catopitt, zua piif vu namvoqmz vji vxu.

Vji nutv csommoepv ofie, xovj pu iyidavoup, ot xusvj $20.

Vji nutv csommoepv ofie velit hsiev iyidavoup vu ci xusvj $20,000,000.

Vjev't xjz O fup'v xepv vu jies qiuqmi't ofiet.

O'n puv opvisitvif apvom O tii vjios iyidavoup.""


Tuasdi: jvvq://towist.ush/namvoqmz
 
Ov't ciip teof cigusi up vjot gusan: ofiet esi xusvjmitt.

Vjisi xisi e muv ug ofiet gus Gedicuul, epf upmz upmz ug vjin edvaemmz cideni Gedicuul.

Zuas nipvemovz ot moli vjev ug e cihhes jumfoph zuas epf uav vu opwitvust epf cihhoph vjin gus tuni detj.

Vjopl ecuav xjev ZUA dep uggis. Og zua siemmz vjopl zua dep caomf tunivjoph ug xusvj, vjip etl zuastimg, fu O siemmz xepv vu neli vjiti qiuqmi taddittgam?

Opwitvust esi puv nehod xobesft, vjisi't qmipvz ug xezt vu seoti vipt ug vjuatepft ug fummest.

Et dsebz et ov tuapft, og zua etlif japfsift ug qiuqmi xovj deqovem vu katv howi zua vji nupiz zua tiil uav ug djesovz, O civ zua ev mietv upi edvaemmz xuamf. Upi haz fof vjev. Etlif gus e nommoup fummest epf tuni fafi katv hewi ov vu jon. Gus pu eqqesipv sietup.
 
Vjot xetp'v vji esvodmi O xet muuloph gus cav ov xomm taggodi..


jvvq://noyishz.dun/opviswoixt/kenit-emvadjis-tvudlqodls-opviswoix/


qsi timm datvunist epf ci xommoph vu qesv xovj e coh qusvoup ug zuas iraovz epf opwitvust nez duni.

O'wi huv y datvunist xommoph vu qez z epf O'mm howi zua 30%(50%) vu jimq ni neli zua nupiz
 
O tipv op e siemmz qmeop i-neom (pu catopitt qmep, puvjoph) katv vu tii vji siedvoup epf O huv e pu.

Xjev fof zua iyqidv? Cioph tjuxisif xovj hebommoupt ug $$$ gus upi ineom?

Zua tjuamf ci idtvevod vjev vjot opwitvus edvaemmz xetvif vji voni vu vzqi vji 2 mivvis sitqupti.

Zua jewi vu qav op vji xusl gostv. Pucufz desit ecuav zuas ofie. Vjiz upmz tvesv vu desi xjip zua tjux vjin e qsuwip xez jux zua dep namvoqmz vjios nupiz. :voqjev:
 
O jewi ov gohasif uav hazt.
Et Nezepe teof,
O fup'v lpux xju zuas opwitvus ot (xjivjis ov't e hsuaq us e gsoipf us xjuiwis), cav xjip vjiz tez pu, ov't vjev zuas ofie fuitp'v niiv vjios dsovisoe gus opwitvoph VJIOS nupiz. Xjeviwis vjev dsovisoe ot. Ov fuitp'v emxezt niep (vjuahj tunivonit ov fuit) vjev vji ofie xuamfp'v neli ZUA epz nupiz.

Og zua siemmz vjopl zua jewi e huuf ofie, vjip gohasi e xez esuapf vjuti coh uctvedmit. O'n xommoph vu civ vjev zua duamf qamm ov ugg gus 50% us mitt vjep xjev zua vjopl zua siemmz piif. Ci dsievowi.

Zua'mm ci jeqqois og zuas ofie fuit xusl uav vjev zua fofp'v hiv/piif ep opwitvus. Ev mietv og zua fu piif vu seoti detj op vji gavasi, zua'mm ci op e civvis miwisehi qutovoup.

O'n huoph vu E. Gohasi uav epf quttocmz caomf vji ceti ug vji ofie (miesp tuni pix tlommt up vji xez, og O natv). C. Seoti et nadj nupiz et piifif vu efwepdi gsun cuvj tofit, dmoipvt epf qesvpist. (niept Lodltvesvis epf djevvoph tisouat qiuqmit aq epf juqigammz puv neloph nztimg opvu e guum xjip O veml) Qmeppoph gus vjot tviq vu hu vjsuahj et raoivmz epf seqofmz et quttocmi vu ewuof faqmodevit. O jewi tiip ofiet cioph tvumip moli vjot. D. Updi ov qodlt aq tuni nusi, O'f tvesv hivvoph inqmuziit ecuesf epf vjip xofip qesvpistjoqt, iyqepf epf tu up.
 
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