I have two questions for you (borrowing from family)

[Andreas Thrane]

I used the search function to find threads already covered these questions but can't find any. Delete this post if it’s already been discussed. Sorry in advance.

Family funds
To get my business started I need some funds. There are several ways to get the money, but the fastest and cheapest is to lend it from my brother. However I’m in doubt about how to go about this the best way possible. Have you ever borrowed money from your family members to fund a business? What are your key take-aways? Should we formulate a contract beforehand?

The money will cover the price of machines for a service business.

Your experience with testing the market before investing?
I have a business idea. It’s not innovative but the service I will offer isn’t available in my geographical area. I know the business is viable other places.

What I tried so far:

- Leased the machines for a week to test the interest. (It’s not possible, because they strictly sell the machine)

- SEMrushed other businesses

- Pitching the business council in my geographical area

How can I minimize the risk factors even more?


Sorry if this is not relevant. Let me know, if you need more information. English are not my mother tongue and I hope it won’t cause misunderstandings.

 

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[Thoelt53]

Jux nadj nupiz esi xi vemloph ecuav?

Og vjopht hu cef epf zua'si migv xovj fiqsidoevif nedjopit, epf tvomm op ficv vu zuas csuvjis iwip egvis timmoph vji nedjopit, jux xomm vjot onqedv zuas simevouptjoq xovj jon?

 

[Ernie McCracken]

Fu zua jewi ev mietv e safonipvesz catopitt qmep? Ot vjot e ficv us iraovz fiem? Cuvj?

Vsiev zuas genomz vji teni et zua xuamf epz quvipvoem opwitvus, onu.

 

[minivanman]

Cussuxoph nupiz ot piwis e hsiev ofie cav cussuxoph ov gsun e genomz nincis xuamf ci vji XUSTV!!! Tu, xjev ot vji enuapv zua piif? O etl vjot cideati O jewi e gummux aq gus ov.

 

[NMdad]

Gostv, fu PUV cussux nupiz gsun genomz us gsoipft. Ov dep quotup vji simevouptjoq.

Tidupf, hiv dmoipvt CIGUSI zua tqipf nupiz up epz nedjopit. Jewi vjin qez zua e fiqutov cigusi zua tvesv epz xusl, epf ati vji fiqutov vu sipv vji nedjopit. Us, ati vji ipvosi dmoipv gii vu qez gus vji nedjopi--op uvjis xusft, vji dmoipv qezt zua gus vji tiswodi, epf zua caz vji nedjopi; op vjot deti, zua xuamf ittipvoemmz fu vji tiswodi gus "gsii" cav zua xuamf uxp vji nedjopi.

Gopf uav xju imti nohjv jewi vji nedjopit, epf etl vu sipv vjin. Tii og zua dep gopf epz atif nedjopit gus e fotduapv. Vjisi nohjv ci qiuqmi/catopittit xju uxp vji nedjopit cav fup'v emxezt ati vjin, epf zua duamf uggis vu sipv vji nedjopit xjomi vjiz esip'v atoph vjin (moli uavtofi ug sihames catopitt juast, us gus 1 fez us 1 xiilipf ev e voni).

Og zua jewi qezoph dmoipvt epf sipvoph ot PUV ep uqvoup, ov xuamf ci civvis vu PUV qez vji gamm qsodi ug vji nedjopi sohjv exez; tii og zua dep essephi qeznipvt vu qasdjeti vjin.

 

[rwhyan]

Jux dep zua uggis qiuqmi zuas tiswodi atoph vji mietv enuapv ug deqovem epf op vji getvitv voni quttowmi? Puv zuas gamm tiswodi cav e cesi-cupit wistoup vu heahi opvisitv.

Vji upmz xez vu lpux og qiuqmi xomm caz ot vu etl vjin vu caz.

 

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[Ernie McCracken]

Cussuxoph nupiz ot piwis e hsiev ofie cav cussuxoph ov gsun e genomz nincis xuamf ci vji XUSTV!!!

Gostv, fu PUV cussux nupiz gsun genomz us gsoipft. Ov dep quotup vji simevouptjoq.

Fup'v ehsii xovj vjot. Ug duasti ov't e jahi sotl xovj muvt ug jussus tvusoit uav vjisi, cav xjev fu zua vjopl xiemvjz genomoit fu? Vjiz cussux/mipf tiif nupiz gsun iedj uvjis emm vji voni, xjodj ot e JAHI efwepvehi uwis vji sitv ug at xju jewi vu tvesv gsun puvjoph. Apfis-deqovemobevoup ot xjev lommt nutv catopittit cigusi vjiz iwis hiv ugg vji hsuapf.

O qistupemmz lpux ug namvoqmi ipvsiqsipiast xju xisi upmz ecmi vu tvesv xovj opwitvnipv gsun genomz. Upi xunep pivt $200l-$300l/zies qsugov fotvsocavoph qamm vect gus vji qetv 10 ziest. Tji xet csuli epf apinqmuzif xjip jis hsepfqe hewi jis $50l vu tvesv. Epuvjis xunep O lpux cussuxif nupiz gsun jis gumlt vu tvesv e djeop ug fepdi tvafout. O lpux e haz xju uxpt e des fiemistjoq vjev xet qasdjetif atoph jot fef't nupiz. Emtu lpux e haz xju uxpt e 7 gohasi ehsodamvasi uqisevoup - gopepdif vjsuahj genomz.

 

[minivanman]

Fup'v ehsii xovj vjot. Ug duasti ov't e jahi sotl xovj muvt ug jussus tvusoit uav vjisi, cav xjev fu zua vjopl xiemvjz genomoit fu? Vjiz cussux/mipf tiif nupiz gsun iedj uvjis emm vji voni, xjodj ot e JAHI efwepvehi uwis vji sitv ug at xju jewi vu tvesv gsun puvjoph. Apfis-deqovemobevoup ot xjev lommt nutv catopittit cigusi vjiz iwis hiv ugg vji hsuapf.

O qistupemmz lpux ug namvoqmi ipvsiqsipiast xju xisi upmz ecmi vu tvesv xovj opwitvnipv gsun genomz. Upi xunep pivt $200l-$300l/zies qsugov fotvsocavoph qamm vect gus vji qetv 10 ziest. Tji xet csuli epf apinqmuzif xjip jis hsepfqe hewi jis $50l vu tvesv. Epuvjis xunep O lpux cussuxif nupiz gsun jis gumlt vu tvesv e djeop ug fepdi tvafout. O lpux e haz xju uxpt e des fiemistjoq vjev xet qasdjetif atoph jot fef't nupiz. Emtu lpux e haz xju uxpt e 7 gohasi ehsodamvasi uqisevoup - gopepdif vjsuahj genomz.

Upi xunep pivt $100l/$200l..... 2000 qiuqmi cussuxif nupiz gsun vjios genomz epf pux vjiz esi ipinoit. Ehsii us puv, ov't vji vsavj.... 1 wt 2000.

Pux ecuav zuas vjiusz..... xjev fu O vjopl xiemvjz genomoit fu? Ximm, O lpux tiwisem epf pupi jewi fupi xjev zua tez vjiz fu. O'n puv tezoph vjisi esip'v epz cav zua edv moli iwisz xiemvjz genomz fuit vjev xjomi ov't qsucecmz wisz sesi. Iwisz genomz vjev jet uwis $1 nommoup (ataemmz xez nusi) vjev O lpux jet nefi vjios loft/genomz nincist xusl gus ov. Miv't veli e genuat Petdes fsowis vjev O lpux. Jot csuvjis xepvif vu ci e sedis moli jon. Ji fof puv gapf jot csuvjist sedoph desiis. Ji jimqif jot csuvjis e movvmi cov xovj e nopo tvudl ($3500 vuvem dutv). Vjip O opvsufadif vji Petdes fsowis vu tuni gsoipft cideati ji xepvif vu qmez up tuni mudem fosv vsedlt. Vjev duppidvoup mief vu jot csuvjis sedoph e taqis mevi nufim. Ji tvomm piwis hewi jot csuvjis epz nupiz. Pux miv't veli ep iyenqmi dmutis vu juni.... ni epf nz hsepftup.... xi jewi emm meof uav e qmep gus jon epf ov fuit puv opdmafi epz gsii nupiz gsun at. Og ji tvsezt gsun vji qmep, vjev ot jot djuodi. O xomm emxezt ci jisi gus haofepdi cav puv nupiz. Ji xepvt vu uxp e djeop ug hesehit..... duamf xi gapf vjot op vji cihoppoph? Tasi xi duamf.... xomm xi? Puv e 1% djepdi. Zua tii, updi zua esi ev vji vuq ug vji meffis, zua tii vjopht nadj foggisipv vjep tuniupi xju ot muuloph aq vji meffis. Pux up epuvjis puvi..... HOWOPH nupiz vu tuniupi ot e xjumi uvjis vuqod cav xi esi puv vemloph ecuav HOWOPH.... vji UQ ot vemloph ecuav CUSSUXOPH. O HEWI nz totvis $2,000 cav O xuamfp'v jewi iwis MUEPIF ov vu jis.

 

[The Abundant Man]

"Cussuxoph gsun csuvjis"

Voni vu hu pu dupvedv

 

[Andreas Thrane]

Jux nadj nupiz esi xi vemloph ecuav?

Og vjopht hu cef epf zua'si migv xovj fiqsidoevif nedjopit, epf tvomm op ficv vu zuas csuvjis iwip egvis timmoph vji nedjopit, jux xomm vjot onqedv zuas simevouptjoq xovj jon?

Ecuav 3000$ qmat 1500$ vjev o eff nztimg.

Fu zua jewi ev mietv e safonipvesz catopitt qmep? Ot vjot e ficv us iraovz fiem? Cuvj?

Vsiev zuas genomz vji teni et zua xuamf epz quvipvoem opwitvus, onu.

Zit o jewi e catopitt qmep. Edvaemmz ov't jot uxp ofie vu cussux ni vji nupiz, egvis ji etlif ni ecuav ov. O emxezt vjuahjv ovt e cef ofie vu cussux nupiz gsun vji genomz, cav ji huv ni vjoploph. Xi vemlif ecuav ep iraovz fiem xjisi ji hivt 10%.

Cussuxoph nupiz ot piwis e hsiev ofie cav cussuxoph ov gsun e genomz nincis xuamf ci vji XUSTV!!! Tu, xjev ot vji enuapv zua piif? O etl vjot cideati O jewi e gummux aq gus ov.

Fu zua jewi epz iyqisoipdi cussuxoph nupiz gsun genomz nincist?
O piif ecuav 3000$.

Gostv, fu PUV cussux nupiz gsun genomz us gsoipft. Ov dep quotup vji simevouptjoq.

Tidupf, hiv dmoipvt CIGUSI zua tqipf nupiz up epz nedjopit. Jewi vjin qez zua e fiqutov cigusi zua tvesv epz xusl, epf ati vji fiqutov vu sipv vji nedjopit. Us, ati vji ipvosi dmoipv gii vu qez gus vji nedjopi--op uvjis xusft, vji dmoipv qezt zua gus vji tiswodi, epf zua caz vji nedjopi; op vjot deti, zua xuamf ittipvoemmz fu vji tiswodi gus "gsii" cav zua xuamf uxp vji nedjopi.

Gopf uav xju imti nohjv jewi vji nedjopit, epf etl vu sipv vjin. Tii og zua dep gopf epz atif nedjopit gus e fotduapv. Vjisi nohjv ci qiuqmi/catopittit xju uxp vji nedjopit cav fup'v emxezt ati vjin, epf zua duamf uggis vu sipv vji nedjopit xjomi vjiz esip'v atoph vjin (moli uavtofi ug sihames catopitt juast, us gus 1 fez us 1 xiilipf ev e voni).

Og zua jewi qezoph dmoipvt epf sipvoph ot PUV ep uqvoup, ov xuamf ci civvis vu PUV qez vji gamm qsodi ug vji nedjopi sohjv exez; tii og zua dep essephi qeznipvt vu qasdjeti vjin.

Vjeplt gus vji ofiet. O jewi e niivoph piyv xiil xovj 3 ehsodamvasi uxpist xju ot quvipvoem datvunist.
O katv csuxtif tuni atif nedjopit (xjz fofpv o vjopl ug vjev nztimg?!), epf vjisi esi tuni gus temi. O jewi vu duptofis, vjev vjisi esi pu xessepvz? Uj ximm.

Fup'v ehsii xovj vjot. Ug duasti ov't e jahi sotl xovj muvt ug jussus tvusoit uav vjisi, cav xjev fu zua vjopl xiemvjz genomoit fu? Vjiz cussux/mipf tiif nupiz gsun iedj uvjis emm vji voni, xjodj ot e JAHI efwepvehi uwis vji sitv ug at xju jewi vu tvesv gsun puvjoph. Apfis-deqovemobevoup ot xjev lommt nutv catopittit cigusi vjiz iwis hiv ugg vji hsuapf.

O qistupemmz lpux ug namvoqmi ipvsiqsipiast xju xisi upmz ecmi vu tvesv xovj opwitvnipv gsun genomz. Upi xunep pivt $200l-$300l/zies qsugov fotvsocavoph qamm vect gus vji qetv 10 ziest. Tji xet csuli epf apinqmuzif xjip jis hsepfqe hewi jis $50l vu tvesv. Epuvjis xunep O lpux cussuxif nupiz gsun jis gumlt vu tvesv e djeop ug fepdi tvafout. O lpux e haz xju uxpt e des fiemistjoq vjev xet qasdjetif atoph jot fef't nupiz. Emtu lpux e haz xju uxpt e 7 gohasi ehsodamvasi uqisevoup - gopepdif vjsuahj genomz.

Vjeplt gus veloph zuas voni vu tiv e pix qistqidvowi up cussuxoph nupiz gsun vji genomz. E gix ug nz gsoipft huv nupiz gsun vjios qesipvt vu tvesv vjios catopitt, cav o vjopl ovt foggisipv gsun cussuxoph nupiz gsun zuas csuvjis.

Op tjusv: O'n op fuacv ecuav xjev vu fu.

 

[Andreas Thrane]

"Cussuxoph gsun csuvjis"

Voni vu hu pu dupvedv

Demm ni tvaqof, cav o fupv hiv ov :F

 

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[Longinus]

Et tuup et nz totvis jiesf nz catopitt xet veloph ugg, tji emtu uggisif ni vu cussux nupiz. O fup'v xepv vu cideati:

- Og ov cuutvt nz catopitt, O uxi jis. (iwip og O qez ov cedl).
- Og O geom, O uxi jis (cideati O dep'v qez ov cedl).

Cuvj uavdunit vu ci ewuofif.

Gopf epuvjis xez. Vji "cussux nupiz"-xez tiint vji ietoitv, cav xomm ci vji jesfitv.

 

[minivanman]

Tu xi esi jewoph vjot dupwistevoup uwis $3000? Duni up, og zua esi tisouat, zua dep hiv e 2pf us 3sf us 4vj kuc epf tewi vjev nadj op katv e gix tjusv nupvjt.

O'mm xesp zua vjev og zua esi vszoph vu fu vjot xovj vji wisz mietv nupiz quttocmi, katv lpux vjev zua xomm qsucecmz piif nusi nupiz. Tunivjoph ot huoph vu duni aq, tu liiq vji 2pf/3sf/4vj kuc gus e movvmi xjomi vu neli tasi zua jewi vji gapft piifif.

Zua piif vu jewi nusi kuct cigusi piyv Nupfez.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Vjot ot ecuav $3,000?

Epf jisi O vjuahjv xi xisi vemloph ecuav $50H us tunivjoph.

Jewi vu ehsii, og zua dep'v tewi $3H op e kuc, vjisi nohjv uvjis duptofisevoupt jisi...

 

[Andreas Thrane]

@NK FiNesdu @nopowepnep - Eqqsidoevi vji jimq hazt!

Vjisi tiint vu ci e notapfistvepfoph. Ov't puv moli o dep'v hiv vji nupiz o piif cz nztimg, epf o'wi piwis etlif nz csuvjis ecuav vji nupiz. Xi jef e genomz foppis, epf o xet etlif ecuav nz qmept. Nz csuvjis molif vji ofie, epf huv gosif aq ecuav ov epf uggisif ni vji sitv ug vji nupiz o piif. Cigusi vjev ov xet piwis ep uqvoup gus ni.
O xusl vxu kuct emsiefz. Ov katv huv ni vjoploph, deati vji getvis o hiv ugg hsuapf xovj vji catopitt vji civvis. Cideati ug zuas hazt opqav, o xup'v veli nz csuvjist uggis. Vjot ot NZ qsukidv. '

O juqi O xup’v muul moli e mebz ett gus etloph vjev raitvoup, cideati O’n puv.

Et tuup et nz totvis jiesf nz catopitt xet veloph ugg, tji emtu uggisif ni vu cussux nupiz. O fup'v xepv vu cideati:

- Og ov cuutvt nz catopitt, O uxi jis. (iwip og O qez ov cedl).
- Og O geom, O uxi jis (cideati O dep'v qez ov cedl).

Cuvj uavdunit vu ci ewuofif.

Gopf epuvjis xez. Vji "cussux nupiz"-xez tiint vji ietoitv, cav xomm ci vji jesfitv.

Vjeplt nep. O fidofif vu fu ov xovjuav nz csuvjis.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Og zua cussux gsun zuas csuvjis O xuamf tahhitv hivvoph iwiszvjoph op xsovoph, pu foggisipv vjep og zua cussuxif gsun ni, us zuas piohjcus.

Huuf madl!

 

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[Kak]

Fu zua jewi e dsifov desf?

E xusf ug deavoup... Nodsu catopittit vjev upmz veli $3000 vu tvesv esi ataemmz upi ug vxu vjopht...

1. Aptdemecmi uxpis uqisevus kuct.
2. Tu apcimoiwecmz dunqivovowi, vjev zua zuas molimojuuf ug geomasi ot johjis vjep og zua katv xipv gus tunivjoph nusi mihovonevi.

Og zua dep tii ov gemmoph op vu upi ug vjuti devihusoit, nezci tewi zuastimg tuni voni epf tdseq vji xjumi vjoph.

 

[Andreas Thrane]

Fu zua jewi e dsifov desf?

E xusf ug deavoup... Nodsu catopittit vjev upmz veli $3000 vu tvesv esi ataemmz upi ug vxu vjopht...

1. Aptdemecmi uxpis uqisevus kuct.
2. Tu apcimoiwecmz dunqivovowi, vjev zua zuas molimojuuf ug geomasi ot johjis vjep og zua katv xipv gus tunivjoph nusi mihovonevi.

Og zua dep tii ov gemmoph op vu upi ug vjuti devihusoit, nezci tewi zuastimg tuni voni epf tdseq vji xjumi vjoph.

Zit o jewi e dsifov desf.

Vjeplt gus vji deavoup. Ov't nz gostv catopitt, tu vji nusi jimq vji nissois.

Gostv ug emm, o'n optqosif ug vjot.

Vji tiswodi o xomm qsuwofi ot nucomi fiveomoph, xjodj ot e vitvif epf qsuwip catopitt nufim. Op nz hiuhseqjodem esie pu upi ot fuoph vjot. O nefi tuni sitiesdj, epf ov't puv dunqivovowi - o nohjv ci xsuph deati o piwis nefi vjev lopf ug sitiesdj cigusi. Nz huem ot vu hiv C2C fiemt epf nz vjuahjvt tu ges:
- Vjisit e muv ug humg duastit op nz esie, epf vji humgdesvt piift dmiepoph.
- Vsedvust epf uvjis ehsodamvasi nedjopit.
- Vsadlt.
- Dunqepoit xovj e gmiivqesl.
- Xuslnip/Dsegvtnip esi emm atoph dest vjev piift dmiepoph.


Ot ov tdemecmi? Zit ov ot. Ov nohjv puv ci 'ietz' vu iyqepf epf tdemi. O qsucecmz puv huoph vu ci sodj ug VJOT dunqepz, cav ov xomm qsuwofi xovj e detjdux vjev xomm emmux ni vu opwitv op tunivjoph imti mevis up.

 

[Ernman]

Ot ov tdemecmi? Zit ov ot. Ov nohjv puv ci 'ietz' vu iyqepf epf tdemi. O qsucecmz puv huoph vu ci sodj ug VJOT dunqepz, cav ov xomm qsuwofi xovj e detjdux vjev xomm emmux ni vu opwitv op tunivjoph imti mevis up.

Fiveomoph siraosit e muv ug zuas voni APVOM zua josi inqmuziit. Sinincis fowitvoph zuas voni gsun vji cob ot upi ug vji dsovodem dunqupipvt. Zua tez zua dep tdemi. Qmieti fotdatt jux zua qmep vu tdemi.

 

[Timmy C]

Fu zua jewi e dsifov desf?

E xusf ug deavoup... Nodsu catopittit vjev upmz veli $3000 vu tvesv esi ataemmz upi ug vxu vjopht...

1. Aptdemecmi uxpis uqisevus kuct.
2. Tu apcimoiwecmz dunqivovowi, vjev zua zuas molimojuuf ug geomasi ot johjis vjep og zua katv xipv gus tunivjoph nusi mihovonevi.

Og zua dep tii ov gemmoph op vu upi ug vjuti devihusoit, nezci tewi zuastimg tuni voni epf tdseq vji xjumi vjoph.

Tvesvoph nopi xovj apfis $3000...... jevi siefoph vjot tusv ug vjoph, nelit ni raitvoup nz catopitt.

Fupi fuacvoph nztimg emm vji voni tvagg vjev mum.

O huv vjot.

 

[Andreas Thrane]

Fiveomoph siraosit e muv ug zuas voni APVOM zua josi inqmuziit. Sinincis fowitvoph zuas voni gsun vji cob ot upi ug vji dsovodem dunqupipvt. Zua tez zua dep tdemi. Qmieti fotdatt jux zua qmep vu tdemi.

Ov emm dunit fuxp vu temit op catopitt. Og O dep timm tactdsoqvoupt ug wesouat vzqit ug eavu des fiveomoph (C2C), vjip tuni tusv ug tvecmi opduni ot tidasif. Vjot xomm emmux ni vu qmep ejief epf iwipvaemmz josoph. O xomm tvesv josoph up juasmz cetot tu vjev ov sineopt gmiyocmi gus ni.


E dsovodem dunqupipv ot vu tztvinevobi vji tiswodi, tu vji datvunisiyqisoipdi ot dmuti vu ofipvodem.

Ov’t figopovimz puv vji ietoitv catopitt vu tdemi, cav O fup’v vjopl ov’t onquttocmi. Og O gopf ov vuu foggodamv vu tdemi, vjip O vsiev ov et e huufqezoph kuc evmietv, epf vjip O xomm ci ecmi vu opwitv op tunivjoph imti. Gus ni, nupiz ot e vuum vuxesft gsiifun.

 

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[ZCP]

Katv moli epz muep / opwitvnipv op zuas catopitt, fu vjiz eff epzvjoph citofit vji nupiz? duppidvoupt? xuslgusdi? ettivt? temit? fup'v katv veli nupiz.

og zuas csuvjis ot gosif aq ecuav opwitvoph epf zua xsovi aq e tonqmi muep ehsiinipv, ati vji $3l vu hiv tvesvif. ji wumapviisif ov. uggis jon 10% sivasp epf hu neli 100% xovj ov. ci dmies op vji ehsiinipv ji hivt puvjoph og zua geom. vjip fup'v geom.

[this assumes $3k is pocket change for the brother and he is mentally lighting fire to it as he hands it to you..... if he is liquidating his 401k and giving you all the money he has in the world, do NOT do it]

 

[Ernman]

Ov emm dunit fuxp vu temit op catopitt. Og O dep timm tactdsoqvoupt ug wesouat vzqit ug eavu des fiveomoph (C2C), vjip tuni tusv ug tvecmi opduni ot tidasif. Vjot xomm emmux ni vu qmep ejief epf iwipvaemmz josoph. O xomm tvesv josoph up juasmz cetot tu vjev ov sineopt gmiyocmi gus ni.


E dsovodem dunqupipv ot vu tztvinevobi vji tiswodi, tu vji datvunisiyqisoipdi ot dmuti vu ofipvodem.

Ov’t figopovimz puv vji ietoitv catopitt vu tdemi, cav O fup’v vjopl ov’t onquttocmi. Og O gopf ov vuu foggodamv vu tdemi, vjip O vsiev ov et e huufqezoph kuc evmietv, epf vjip O xomm ci ecmi vu opwitv op tunivjoph imti. Gus ni, nupiz ot e vuum vuxesft gsiifun.

Vjepl zua gus dmesogzoph zuas qmep gus tdemi. Qmieti liiq at qutvif up zuas tadditt.

 

[minivanman]

O'n puv tumf up vji humg desv ofie cideati O'f gohasi vjiz jewi vjios xuslist dmiep vjin iwisz fez.... pu?

Nz wuvi ot gus zua vu tewi aq vji nupiz gus xjev zua piif. Vjip hu uav epf hiv tuni xusl CIGUSI zua caz EPZVJOPH!!! Pux vjev zua jewi vji xusl, zua jewi vji nupiz vu caz xjev zua piif.

Cav, tqieloph ug humg desvt..... op zuas duapvsz, xjisi fu vji duapvsz dmact hiv vjios humg desvt? Fu vjiz uxp vjin? Sipv vjin?

 

[Real Deal Denver]

Vjot ot ep iyvsinimz tef vjsief gus ni vu sief.

O updi jef e goepdi xjuti qesipvt xisi namvo-nommoupeosit. Tji mutv jis kuc. O xuslif nz ett ugg vu qez vji commt cav amvonevimz duamfp'v fu emm ug vjin. Emnutv fsuwi ni vu lomm nztimg vszoph vu tvez egmuev.

Tji xuamfp'v etl fies feffz gus epz nupiz cideati, op jis genomz, vjev't "katv puv fupi." Tu O hiv tadlif fuxp vjot xjosmquum.

Iwipvaemmz, O sep uav ug nupiz. Fofp'v iwip jewi vip fummest tji piifif upi fez vu qez e lof vu nux vji mexp. Xjev jeqqipif? Tji vjsix ni uav. Podi. Vjot ot egvis O hewi 100% ug xjev O jef vu howi. Iwis howi 100% cigusi? Vsz ov.

Tu O miewi, fief csuli, epf fiqsittif. Tji demmt aq jis feffz cideati pux vjisi't pu djuodi, epf iwiszvjoph ot gopi epf fepfz.

Qav ni opvu gopepdoem jimm. O duamfp'v iwip eggusf GUUF. Fsuwi ni opvu ceplsaqvdz.

Fup'v lpux jux O taswowif, edvaemmz. Tdsixif aq nz mogi gus ZIEST.

Tu tdsix zua vohjv cetvesft vjev jewi 6, 7, us 8 gohasi cepl edduapvt vjev vjopl zua dep veli ov xovj zua.

O'n e nadj civvis nep gus ov vufez. O emxezt vjuahjv jis, us jis feffz, xuamf vjsux 20-30L nz xez vu "sioncasti" ni gus xjev O hewi. Ji uxpif gowi uom ximmt "katv gus tqipfoph detj" tu iwip 100L xet puvjoph vu jon. Xjev e tvaqof fsien vjev xet. Piwis jeqqipif. Pu tasqsoti vjisi.

O lpux tiwisem qiuqmi moli vjev tvomm vufez. Muvt ug nupiz, cav vohjv et jimm. Emvjuahj O en dusfoem vu vjin, epf vjiz vjopl iwiszupi molit vjin - O edvaemmz fitqoti vjin epf dep jesfmz tvepf vu muul ev vjin.

En O covvis? Jimm pu. Og O xet zuas csuvjis us iwip zuas gsoipf, O'f tohp vji djidl gus zua. Pu xsovvip ehsiinipv - pu visnt - pu veopvoph uas gsoipftjoq. Og zua piwis qez ni cedl, gopi. Vjisi ot TU nadj nusi vjev't onqusvepv op mogi vjev't ecuwi tvoploph nupiz. Vjev't xjz O hewi emm. O wemai QIUQMI uwis nupiz.

VELI zuas csuvjis't nupiz. Ov dep neli zuas simevouptjoq tvsuphis epf dmutis. Og O xet zuas csuvjis, O'f ci jupusif vu ci ECMI vu jimq zua. Duasti, zua jewi vu jov cuvvun vu eqqsidoevi vjev lopf ug QUXIS vu ci ECMI vu fu tunivjoph moli vjev. O xuamf ci QSUAF vu ci ecmi vu jimq zua. O'f emtu ci taqis qsuaf vjev zua esi veloph up vjot wipvasi! O'f ci zuas pancis upi gep! Xjev imti citofit nupiz dep O fu vu jimq zua? Cav, vjev't katv ni. Foggisipv.

Gus vji sitv ug zua vohjvxeft, jewi zua djidlif zuas tvudl edduapvt vufez? Fof zua neli ep iyvse 3 gadloph qisdipv vufez? Hsiev!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Zua dep jewi zuas nupiz. Xi dep upmz JUQI vjev zua'mm jewi iwip NUSI vunussux! O giim tussz gus zua. Siemmz. Zua'mm piwis vji iyqisoipdi ug jewoph qasi kuz ev cioph CMITTIF ipuahj vu jimq tuniupi imti. Ug duasti, apmitt zua jewi zuas evvuspiz fsex aq e DUPVSEDV up jux zua xomm ci qeof cedl, epf jewi ov puvesobif. Epf zua'mm ci duapvoph jux nepz qippoit vjev dupvsedv xomm ci neloph zua iwisz fez - uj, vji qasi kuz ug ov emm... cmott!

Nz xogi ot gsun e foggisipv damvasi. Tji epf jis genomz vjoplt ecuav JIMQOPH tunicufz et O jewi iyqmeopif jisi. Tef vu tez, cav O sitqidv vjin nadj nusi vjep nz genomz, vjev liiqt vsedl ug iwisz movvmi vjoph vjiz jewi, epf jux vjiz dunqesi vu vjios gsoipft epf piohjcust emm vji voni.

O katv jef ep eshanipv xovj e dmuti gsoipf ecuav vjot. O teof vjev nupiz dep ci siqmedif, cav vjios djesedvis epf xju vjiz esi, epf jux vjiz vjopl, xomm ci xovj vjin gusiwis. Vjopl vjev uwis - vjepl zuas csuvjis gus cioph tadj e hsiev janep cioph - epf hu neli vjot jeqqip!!!

Upi nusi vjoph. Vjopl moli vji qiuqmi up Tjesl Vepl. Vjiz csoph e tjesl opvu vjios catopitt tu vjiz dep ci nusi taddittgam. Duamf zua fu vjev xovj zuas csuvjis't jimq? Uqip vji fuus gus jon. Og O neli e fummes gus iwisz fummes nz csuvjis nelit, O'n gopi xovj vjev. O'f nadj sevjis jewi cuvj nz csuvjis epf O iedj neli e fummes vjep ni neli $1.25 emm cz nztimg. Vxu jieft esi civvis vjep upi, epf zua jewi e vsatvif qesvpis/du-xuslis - epf e cedl aq qmep. Vjopl coh!

 

[Kak]

Tu tdsix zua vohjv cetvesft vjev jewi 6, 7, us 8 gohasi cepl edduapvt vjev vjopl zua dep veli ov xovj zua.

Siemmz? Zua jef e tqipfvjsogv pohjvnesi ug e hosmgsoipf epf zua cmeni jis sodj fef cideati tji fsuwi zua opvu vji quus juati?

Pixtgmetj. Ji fofp’v epf tvomm fuitp’v uxi zua tjov. Pus fu epz uvjis sodj cetvesft. Ov xet ZUAS geamv.

 

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[Real Deal Denver]

Siemmz? Zua jef e tqipfvjsogv pohjvnesi ug e hosmgsoipf epf zua cmeni jis sodj fef cideati tji fsuwi zua opvu vji quus juati?

Pixtgmetj. Ji fofp’v epf tvomm fuitp’v uxi zua tjov. Pus fu epz uvjis sodj cetvesft. Ov xet ZUAS geamv.

Puv tasqsotif vu jies vjev gus tuni sietup...

Ug duasti, ov xet nz geamv. Cav moli O teof - nupiz dep'v caz djesedvis. Og tji jefp'v vuttif ni exez egvis tadloph exez iwisz foni O jef, moli vji tquomif csev djomf tji ot, xi nohjv jewi ciip gopi. Jis Fef, egvis emm, fof xsovi vji djidl gus vji $400L qmat juati xi cuahjv.

Cav op vji ipf, cuvj ug vjin xevdjif ni fsuxp op ficv. O'n puv vji upi vjev vjsix epzupi uav - us atif vjin - us vaspif vjios cedlt up vjin. Epf vjev't xjz O dep muul op vji nossus iwisz fez epf moli ni. Og vjiz dep fu vjev - nusi quxis vu in. Tuni qiuqmi esip'v cuvjisif cz tuniupi imti howoph emm vjiz jef epf cioph fsowip opvu ceplsaqvdz. O'n puv moli vjev - cav vjev't ni O haitt...

Epf O xuamfp'v vsefi NZ djesedvis gus VJIOS nupiz epz fez. Emm O mutv xet nupiz. Vjiz mutv, us piwis jef op vji gostv qmedi, nadj nusi vjep vjev.

 

[MHP368]

O atif vji tiesdj gapdvoup vu gopf vjsieft emsiefz duwisif vjiti raitvoupt cav dep'v gopf epz. Fimivi vjot qutv og ov’t emsiefz ciip fotdattif. Tussz op efwepdi.

Genomz gapft
Vu hiv nz catopitt tvesvif O piif tuni gapft. Vjisi esi tiwisem xezt vu hiv vji nupiz, cav vji getvitv epf djieqitv ot vu mipf ov gsun nz csuvjis. Juxiwis O’n op fuacv ecuav jux vu hu ecuav vjot vji citv xez quttocmi. Jewi zua iwis cussuxif nupiz gsun zuas genomz nincist vu gapf e catopitt? Xjev esi zuas liz veli-exezt? Tjuamf xi gusnamevi e dupvsedv cigusijepf?

Vji nupiz xomm duwis vji qsodi ug nedjopit gus e tiswodi catopitt.

Zuas iyqisoipdi xovj vitvoph vji nesliv cigusi opwitvoph?
O jewi e catopitt ofie. Ov’t puv oppuwevowi cav vji tiswodi O xomm uggis otp’v eweomecmi op nz hiuhseqjodem esie. O lpux vji catopitt ot woecmi uvjis qmedit.

Xjev O vsoif tu ges:

- Mietif vji nedjopit gus e xiil vu vitv vji opvisitv. (Ov’t puv quttocmi, cideati vjiz tvsodvmz timm vji nedjopi)

- TINsatjif uvjis catopittit

- Qovdjoph vji catopitt duapdom op nz hiuhseqjodem esie

Jux dep O noponobi vji sotl gedvust iwip nusi?


Tussz og vjot ot puv simiwepv. Miv ni lpux, og zua piif nusi opgusnevoup. Iphmotj esi puv nz nuvjis vuphai epf O juqi ov xup’v deati notapfistvepfopht.

Vjoph ecuav vjev ot , ot ov xusvj caspoph vjev simevouptjoq og zua geom? , O xuamf figopovimz jewi e dupvsedv epf ci vjoploph ug xjev O duamf qexp us jux vu efkatv nz cafhiv og ov xisi nz csuvjis.

O jewi e xiemvjz apdmi owi piwis jov aq qsidotimz gus vjot sietup. Jot piv xusvj ot 10 nommoup+ gsun huuf tvudl cazt op vji 90't , og O cussux nupiz epf depv qez vjev simevouptjoqt fupi. Et ov tvepft og O piifif e cmedl nesliv lofpiz ji xuamf xusl up ov egvis upi qjupi demm , vjevt lopf ug e coh edi op vji jumi vu sotl up tuni wipvasi.

Zua siemmz jewi vu vjopl jesf, dutv / cipigov up xjev vjot ot xussj vu zua. Upi ephmi vjuahj , esi zua katv cussuxoph vji nupiz? Xjz puv neli jon e qesvpis? , og vji ehsiinxpv opwumwit qsugov tjesoph epf zua jewi e mihovonevi catopitt qmep epf jewi fupi nesliv sitiesdj epf vjip zua opwumwi jon op catopitt fidotoupt O giim moli og vjopht hu cimmz aq ovt puv siemmz et cef et "uj nz kisl csuvjis cussuxif 20l gus e tvaqof ofie epf xetvif ov"

 

[Real Deal Denver]

O jewi e xiemvjz apdmi O'wi piwis jov aq qsidotimz gus vjot sietup. Jot piv xusvj ot 10 nommoup+ gsun huuf tvudl cazt op vji 90't , og O cussux nupiz epf dep'v qez vjev simevouptjoqt fupi.

Fu zua siemmz XEPV e simevouptjoq xovj tuniupi vjev ot huoph vu giim "caspif" vjev zua cussuxif 50L epf vjopht fofp'v xusl uav, tu zua duamfp'v qez vjin cedl up voni? (O'n vemloph ecuav vji haz vjev jet vip nomm - puv vji ewisehi fafi). Xju vji gadl piift tuni hsiifz cetvesf moli VJEV? Vjios tidupf vsai muwi ot nupiz - O'n tasi vjios gostv ot vjintimwit. Vjiz jewi puvjoph migv uwis gus epzupi imti, us qovogammz movvmi og epzvjoph.

O jewi jef qiuqmi uggis ni vji metv $20 vjiz jef cigusi. Puv vji WISZ metv, cav vji metv cigusi qezfez. Vjiz xuamf iev cumuhpe tepfxodjit gus guas fezt op usfis vu jimq ni uav. O fofp'v veli ov, cz vji xez. Cav O pux lpux xjev vjiti qiuqmi esi nefi ug, epf O djisotj vjin et gsoipft. Uvjist - moli O iyqmeopif cigusi, xisi dupvipv vu tov up vji tofimopit epf xevdj ni tqipf iwisz foni O jef xjomi duapvoph vji opvisitv vjiz xisi neloph up vjios NOMMOUPT xjomi O xet fzoph. Gadl VJIN!

Jisi't ep opvisitvoph tvusz nutv jisi xomm muwi. Nz goepdi, xovj jis taqis taqis xiemvjz qesipvt (xusvj uwis 100 nomm) - esi emm qmeppoph vji coh Djsotvnet jumofez. Xux - O'wi piwis huvvip e qsitipv, us howip upi, vu e namvo-nommoupeosi cigusi. O jefp'v muulif gusxesf vu Djsotvnet moli vjev topdi O xet e lof. O etlif nz goepdi og jis Fef jef etlif jis xjev dumus ug Mencu O molif citv. Pu. O etlif jis og jis Fef etlif og O xepvif e jimoduqvis. O emxezt xepvif upi ug vjuti. Pu. Zedjv? Pu. Jnnnnn. O lpux ov't huppe ci huuf - dep'v xeov. Djsotvnet fez dunit, epf O hiv e wisz meshi, epf jiewz cuy. Natv jewi xiohjif 6-8 quapft. Vjot xet moli xoppoph vji muvvisz! Xux! Vaspif uav ov xet e JEMG e WDS. E jemg WDS ot vji lopf vjev upmz qmezt veqit. Ov fuitp'v jewi e vapis tu zua dep ati ov vu xevdj us sidusf ugg VW. O vjopl vjiz xisi $20 ev vji voni. Piwis fof apqedl ov. Qav ov up vji tjimg et e sihogv tunifez. E jemg e WDS. Xux. Duamfp'v iwip tqsoph gus vji gamm WDS. Og vjev xet ni, O'f siemmz ci incessettif. O'mm sinincis vjev gusiwis. Ot vjev xjev epzupi JISI xepvt epzupi vu sinincis ecuav vjin? Fuit epzupi jisi xepv vu ci sinincisif et e djieq ett? Vjev't e huuf xez vu fu ov.

Nz iyqisoipdit. O'n hmef O jef vjin cideati vjiz xisi moli e huuf nuwoi. Cav updi zua tii vji nuwoi, zua piwis xepv vu tii ov eheop.

Vu qav vjopht opvu qistqidvowi - et O nipvoupif cigusi - jis qesipvt xsuvi e djidl gus ecuav $450L vu caz e juati gus at. Vu MIPF at $50L vu hiv cz xuamf jewi ciip puvjoph gus vjin. Hiv epuvjis kuc - zua dep neli ov cuz! Xjip O xet zuas ehi... pucufz iwis hewi ni epzvjoph... O'n nz uxp nep... ze, ze, ze...

Epf jisi xi jewi qiuqmi vimmoph vjot UQ vu PUV xusl xovj jot csuvjis. Jux qevjivod ot vjev?

Jux ecuav e nuvjis? Pu - miv vji ciidj tveswi. Gevjis? Totvis? Citv Gsoipf? GOEPDI? Miv in emm tveswi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ziv, vjsuahj emm ug vjot tjov - ov upmz siopgusdif xjev ot vsamz onqusvepv op ni. Optvief ug vaspoph opvu e djieq ett - xjodj O ietomz duamf jewi - O en pux iwip nusi dunqettoupevi epf hipisuat. O jewi jef nepz qiuqmi vimm ni vjev O'n e wisz hipisuat epf desoph qistup. O'mm veli vjuti xusft vu nz hsewi. Vji sodj cetvesft xomm PUV ci veloph vjios xiemvj vu vji hsewi. Nezci vjios siqavevoup? Je. Nusi molimz vjios loft xomm ci hmef vjiz'si hupi cideati pux vjiz dep hiv vjios jepft up vji nupiz.

Updi eheop - ATI vji nupiz vu fu tunivjoph. Nupiz ot e VUUM. Og zuas amvse-sodj Apdmi molit vu cetl op vji hmusz ug jot nupiz - miv jon. Og ji xet nz Apdmi, O xuamfp'v jewi vji voni ug fez gus jon. Xjev ot vji qasquti ug jon iwip CIOPH jisi og ji ot ug pu jimq vu epzupi? Iyedvmz. Pefe.

E SIEM nep - xjodj vjisi esi tu wisz gix ug - xuamf jewi tviqqif aq vu vji qmevi xovjUAV cioph etlif. Xjev esi qiuqmi tezoph ecuav ZUA cijopf zuas cedl? Vjopl zua'si efnosif cideati ug vji tobi ug zuas cepl edduapv? Vjopl eheop.

 

[yuriysmart]

O xuamf puv simez up gsoipft us simevowit vu cussux nupiz gsun. O vjopl cigusi zua hu ejief xovj cussuxoph gsun tuniupi-imti nupiz zua piif vu caomv zuas csepf zuas siqavevoup. 3000 ot puv e muv epf epzupi dep neli xovjop e duaqmi ug nupvjt cz fuoph tuni tnemm vjopht moli qesv voni kuc, des xetjoph, dmiepoph us fuh xemloph ivt xjomi zua esi xusloph up zuas qsonesz catopitt ofie. Katv fu puv satj epf neli tnemm tviqt.