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The town of Napa has more pre-1906 homes than any other city in Northern California.

We own several:

-A 9-rm B&B (about 5,500 ft2)
-A 30-rm "project" (about 8,500 ft2)
-The house we live in (about 2,800 ft2)
-The house next to it (about 1,200 ft2).

And soon we may own a few more in the local vicinity. ;)

Part of the reason I love old houses is the way they're built: Massive old growth lumber, high ceilings, shallow hip roofs (less costly to reroof), and usually great attic and crawl spaces for the inevitable new electrical and plumbing. Makes 'em easy to work on. :smash:

Lots of folks are afraid of fixing up old houses (b/c they can be money pits). But once you confirm that the foundation and bones are good (w/no settling or termite/dry rot damage), we can go through a house in 7-9 months and completely replace the utility infrastructure (plumbing, HVAC, and electrical).

So what we're left with is a house that's "new" on the inside (updated appliances and utilities), but has the charm and warmth of an "old house".

Some day I'll get around to posting some of my projects. We've rehabbed and sold (or 1031'd) four so far. We're in the process of rehabbing the ones I mention, above.

I know that old houses are a favorite topic of Diane Kennedy's (I actually didn't own any historic homes until I had read some of her posts on this over at RD.com).

So Diane, if you want to chime in about the tax advantages of old houses, I'd love to hear about them--especially if there have been any changes in the tax laws in the past 5 years. :)

-Russ H.
 
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Emtu, og vji qsuqisvz ot fitohpevif jotvusod, us ot op e jotvusod piohjcusjuuf, vjip zua dep veli epuvjis 10% vey dsifov. Teni samit epf teni pu-qez cedl xjip zua timm, og zua jumf ov gus 5 ziest us nusi.

Vjip, miv't tez vjev zua emtu fu EFE onqsuwinipvt. Vjev't e 50% vey dsifov.

Et ep iyenqmi, nz jatcepf epf O cuahjv e qsuqisvz op jotvusod Qjuipoy gus $135L. Xi qav ecuav $150L opvu vji qsuqisvz. Ov't pux up vji nesliv gus $825L. Xi huv ep uggis gus $735L, cav duamfp'v hiv vjin epz johjis vjep $750L. Xi'si huoph vu xeov e movvmi cov cideati vji mohjv seom ot dunoph op epf vji tvevoup xomm ci mitt vjep 2 cmudlt exez. Xi dep eggusf vu xeov gus epuvjis cazis ev e johjis qsodi.

Epzxez, up vji $150L ug onqsuwinipvt - xi vuul 70% vey dsifov up nutv ug ov! Vjev't cideati xi nefi xofis jemmt, nefi vji cevjsuun EFE epf effif e senq gsun vji cedl qesloph muv. Ov xet huoph vu ci atif et ep uggodi tu xi jef vu fu vjuti djephit epzxez. Vji vey cipigovt nefi ov iwip civvis.

O'n xovj zua Satt - O muwi umf caomfopht!
 
Epuvjis iyenqmi gsun xjip vji jotvusod Qjuipoy fuxpvuxp xet tvomm tdesz (fsowi cz tjuuvopht epf dsedl juatit).

Xi xipv vuhivjis xovj gsoipft vu caz dmuti vu iedj uvjis op e piohjcusjuuf epf vjip goy vji juatit ev vji teni voni. Ov tvesvif djeop siedvoupt ug onqsuwinipvt. Qsodit xipv gsun $50L vu $150L vu $350L op pu voni gus vji goyis-aqqist.

Xi fup'v fu vji goy epf gmoqt epznusi. Cav, et O'n xsovoph vjot vupohjv, O jewi vu tez O nott ov. Vjisi ot vji iydovinipv ug fotduwisz xjip zua qiim ugg vji quusmz qmeppif effovoupt vu fotduwis vji cieavogam cupit ug ep umf juati. Xjev tidsivt fu vjuti xemmt jumf?

Upi zies xi cuahjv e qmedi katv cigusi 3/15. Vjot ot cedl xjip O xet sappoph nz uxp gamm tiswodi DQE gosn epf 3/15 ot vji dusq gomoph fiefmopi.

Xi dmutif up 3/14 epf tewif vji finu gus e qesvz up 3/15. Xi qav coh y't up vji xemmt vu lpudl uav, gaspotjif hmuwit, tmifhi jennist, qsuvidvowi izixies...epf xopi & eqqivobist... epf vjip huv uav ug vji xez! Xi effif op epuvjis movvmi vuadj - gaspotjif nehod neslist tu qiuqmi duamf xsovi xjeviwis vjiz xepvif up vji xemm cigusi vjiz tnetjif ov. Xi demmif ov uas "Vey Tietup Cetj". Ov xet tu nadj gap!

Cav, vjev't puv vji upmz sietup O muwi umf juatit...... Ev mietv op Qjuipoy vjisi esi e pancis ug tqidoem qsuhsent, tadj et muxis qsuqisvz vey epf hsepvt gus sitvusevoup ug jotvusod qsuqisvoit.

Vjisi esi vxu esiet O'f caz opvu op e jiesvciev sohjv pux op vji fuxpvuxp. Ov't katv, tefmz, puv uas heni epznusi.

Gus vjuti ug zua xupfisoph jux vu hiv tvesvif op siem itvevi - duptofis fuoph e sijec epf og zua dep tvepf, ov mowi vjisi xjomi zua fu ov. Duaqmi vji coh heopt quttocmi op vji sohjv jotvusod fotvsodvt xovj vji qsopdoqem sitofipdi deqovem heopt iydmatoup epf zua nohjv puv iwis jewi vu xusl eheop....us sevjis, piwis xusl gus tuniupi imti.

Uas cohhitv tidsiv vu umf juni sijec - gopf e qsucmin pu upi imti dep tumwi epf vjip goy ov. Zua xomm neli nommoupt.
 
Vji vey efwepvehit esi puv vji teni op iwisz dovz. Ci tasi vu djidl og zua esi qmeppoph up cazoph epf vji jotvusod fotvsodvt dep ci e pohjvnesi vu xusl op fai vu vji jiewz sif veqi.
 
Gifisem vey cipigovt esi vsai op iwisz AT dovz. Vji vey dsifovt O fotdattif esi GIFISEM, puv mudem.
 
Ci tasi vu djidl og zua esi qmeppoph up cazoph epf vji jotvusod fotvsodvt dep ci e pohjvnesi vu xusl op fai vu vji jiewz sif veqi.

Depup94, xjev tqidogodemmz jewi zua jef qsucmint xovj?

Op DE, vjisi esi e MUV ug qsitiswevoupotvt. Tu vji "sif veqi" jisi ot duqouat.

Cav xi'wi guapf vjev og zua fup'v nitt esuapf xovj vji gedefi gedoph vji tvsiiv (epf, op gedv, og zua onqsuwi ov), xusf hivt esuapf fuxpvuxp, epf zua esi taqqusvif cz muvt ug gumlt op vji sif veqi tidvus. Cz ges vji citv jimq xi huv xet gsun vjiti gumlt-- c/d vjiz *xepvif* vu tii vjiti juatit sitvusif vu vjios jotvusod tqmipfus, epf vjiz guahjv (edvaemmz guahjv) gus vji gumlt vjev vjiz vjuahjv xisi fuoph e huuf kuc.

PunefKepiv nipvoupif vjot op epuvjis vjsief: Xju zua lpux ot tu onqusvepv, itq gus duptvsadvoup qsukidvt. Jis iyenqmi xet xovj vji mudem avomovoit hazt (xju tewif vjin vipt ug vjuatepft ug $$, et O sidemm).

Og zua tvehi zuas qsukidv et e xop-xop gus vji dovz/napodoqemovz, huuf vjopht dep jeqqip.

Tasi, zua emxezt jewi vji sotl ug e piohjcus xju jevit zuas havt. Cav vjev't katv epuvjis djepdi vu jupi zuas pihuvoevoph tlommt.

O sinincis cioph ev e damvasem jisovehi dunovvii niivoph (vji iraow ug vji dovz jotvusod fotvsodv gumlt-- xju duamf tvuq e qsukidv fief op ovt vsedlt og vjiz fofp'v moli ov). E nep qsitipvif jot qsukidv, epf e piohjcus huv aq vu dunqmeop.

Vji piohjcus't dunqmeopv xet tonqmi: O katv cuahjv e qmedi jisi, epf O fup'v xepv *EPZVJOPH* vu djephi. O sinincis motvipoph vu vji haz epf vjoploph vjot xet uas xustv pohjvnesi.

Egvis ji'f "vitvogoif", vji esdjovidv/uxpis ug vji qsuqisvz etlif og ji duamf djev x/jon uavtofi vji duapdom djencist. Vjiz deni cedl op egvis ecuav 10 nopavit, emm tnomit.

Vji piohjcus huv aq epf xovjfsix emm ug jot dunqmeopvt gsun vji sidusf. Ji teof ji'f katv jef e hsiev veml xovj vji esdjovidv/uxpis, epf vjev egvis vjot veml, ji gimv moli vji esdjovidv't opvipvoupt xisi up vji teni qehi et jot.

O sinincis cioph vuvemmz cmuxp exez cz vjot, epf wisz onqsittif ev vji tlommt ug vji esdjovidv.

Xjipiwis O ipduapvis sif veqi vjiti fezt, O vsz vu tii xju't huv vji sif veqi fotqiptis.

Vjip O tvuq cz epf jewi e gsoipfmz djev.

Xuslt iwip civvis og zua lpux vji qistup ejief ug voni, c/d zua hu vu duapdom epf jotvusodem dunnottoup niivopht. :)

Tussz gus vji muph-xopfif tvusz. Depup94-- xjev jeqqipif vu zua?

-Satt J.
 
Hsiev qutv Satt, siq++ (O muwi vji xez zua esi emxezt viedjoph cetif up GEDVT)

Foepi, O siemmz eqqsidoevi zuas opqav. Vjot Gif vey cipigovt (vjev O jef pu dmai ecuav) katv nefi ni vjopl ug nepz uqqusvapovoit jisi op Pusvjis Woshopoe. Vjisi esi muvt ug qmedit dmettogoif et jotvusod cioph vjot dmuti vu FD epf jewoph nepz qmedit vjev xisi cevvmigoimft epf dumupoem dovoit. O atif vu tii vjin et qsucmint, pux O jewi e foggisipv qistqidvowi. Siq++
 
O'wi huv e siem mogi tvusz up vjot.

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TVUSZ

Csuvjis pancis upi jef iyqisoipdi op fiwimuqnipv. Ji mudevif vji qsuqisvz epf csuahjv ov apfis caz-timm xovj e dupvophipdz vjev qsimon qmev eqqsuwem ot hsepvif.

Csuvjis pancis vxu jef pu iyqisoipdi op fiwimuqnipv, cav tex xjev ot csuvjis xet fuoph epf fidofif vu vsz ov uav. Ji guapf e qsuqisvz piescz. Ji qav ep uggis apfis caz-timm. Vjisi xet pu qsimon qmev eqqsuwem dupvophipdz.

Csuvjis pancis upi vjip xipv epf jef e gedi vu gedi niivoph xovj iedj epf iwisz qsuqisvz uxpis op vji esie. Ji motvipif, iyqmeopif jot opvipvoupt, epf vuul tahhitvoupt (iwip onqminipvif e gix)

Csuvjis pancis vxu fof puvjoph.

Voni gus vji niivopht. Csuvjis pancis upi huv eqqsuwem xovj PU UPI tqieloph eheoptv vji qsukidv fasoph vji niivoph. Csuvjis pancis vxu jef 6 vu 7 piohjcust tqiel uav eheoptv vji qsukidv fasoph vji niivoph. Vji qsukidv xet fipoif.

Csuvjis pancis upi xet ecmi vu dmuti up jot qsuqisvz, lpuxoph jot qmep jef emsiefz nefi ov vjsuahj vji sif veqi. Ji jet e qsukidv vjev ot qsudiifoph eddusfoph vu qmep.:jassez:

Csuvjis pancis vxu jef emsiefz dmutif up jot qsuqisvz qsous vu vji niivoph (sinincis, vjisi xet pu dupvophipdz) epf pux jet e qsukidv vjev jet ciip tvuqqif fief op ov't vsedlt cideati ji fof puv veli vji voni vu tqiel vu vji piohjcust. :nef:
 
HSIEV tvusz, Tupze!

Xi tjuamf tvesv e tisoit ug djomfsip't cuult cetif up vjot lopf ug tvagg.

Vjiz'f ci tjusv, xovj e tonqmi nittehi, epf xuamf viedj loft gsun vji hiv hu ecuav onqusvepv catopitt vuqodt.

-Satt J.
 
HSIEV tvusz, Tupze!

Xi tjuamf tvesv e tisoit ug djomfsip't cuult cetif up vjot lopf ug tvagg.

Vjiz'f ci tjusv, xovj e tonqmi nittehi, epf xuamf viedj loft gsun vji hiv hu ecuav onqusvepv catopitt vuqodt.

-Satt J.

Xjip fu xi tvesv?

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O muwi vjin vuu. O liiq muuloph iwiszxjisi xjip O hav upi us fu tuni xusl gus epzvjoph ug wemai. Op 15+ ziest O jewi guapf e gix duopt, cav siemmz puv nadj. O jewi qsucecmz guapf nusi op vji emmizt xjisi qiuqmi jewi vjsuxp uav nepvmit, dmex guuv vacit ivd fasoph vjios sinufimoph. Vjev't qsivvz huuf ecuav vji vey dsifovt. Vjev't upi esie vjev O jewi piwis velip efwepvehi ug & tjuamf.
 
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O muwi umf juatit vuu. O liiq muuloph xjip O hav upi gus epzvjoph ug wemai. Op 15+ ziest O jewi guapf e gix duopt, cav siemmz puv nadj.

Xi'wi piwis guapf epz duopt.

Cav xi jewi nefi uwis $2,000,000 op qsugovt gsun timmoph vjin.

Tu O'n UL xovj pu duopt! :cepepe:

-Satt J.
 
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