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This is a repost from my blog. I am copy pasting it here in it's entirety. I posted this to Hacker News yesterday and made the frontpage for around 15 hours, which was super cool.

My intention is that it can help others out. I'm hoping this is allowed, I didn't want to just drop a link and I have nothing to sell. I'll remove the previous link and leave the post below if that's better:

I wrote a SaaS product because the internet made me believe it'd make me rich

In May of 2018 I decided I wanted to launch a SaaS product.
There was only one problem.
I'd never worked on, built, designed or even coded a fully fledged web app or SaaS product.


y tho

SaaS was to be the holy grail. A magic money machine that you create once and that spits out money over and over again.
I'd done a lot of reading around the SaaS model and I'd read things like Tyler Tringas' storemapper, IndieHackers and MakeBook. VC is for losers and bootstrapping is a way of life.
I've always been an entrepreneur and SaaS was the clear path forward. Automated, technical, scalable, x-able y-able and z-able.
In the Fall of 2017 I'd done a ton of freelancing on the (garbage) website Upwork. Upwork is a bit of a grind. User's can search for a skill they'd like to freelance in ( Cisco Networking, Python programming, Painting Dogs, whatever) and apply for job's via proposals. The crappy thing about Upwork is that once a job is posted, the heat is on to apply. The longer you let the job sit, the more likely that other freelancers will apply for it and get the work. Being early was an extreme advantage, even if you are the best.
After googling around a bit, I found that Upwork had no way for user's to get alerts on new jobs, even though many user's requested it. "Hmmm, I thought, a market need". There were, though, countless forum posts and low-quality YouTube videos explaining how to set up alerts via IFTTT and Upwork's RSS feeds feature.

Let's Build

Tyler Tringas had made a tiny store mapper application and scaled it to 50k and sold it. This is hardly complicated. I don't need to do everything, just something simple. I went to a whiteboard and drew my app dashboard. Then I mocked it in some crappy free software I found online. (Now I use Balsamiq for mockups) Here's how it looked:
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Cool, yeah, just pop in your RSS feed and decide if you want alerts or not. Simple enough. This was a glorified RSS feed reader. Would anyone even pay for this? Who cares – it's my idea and I want to build it now. #yolo

Secret: I'm not that great of a coder

I'd written some python code to automate things and made a few utilities here and there that I've been paid for. I'd never worked as a bonafide Software Developer at this point. This couldn't be that hard, right?
The advice I'd heard over and over again was to "just ship". Make it happen. Ship the thing. It doesn't matter what language you use. You can use a soldering iron, raspberry pi and an old Dell Server. Just go go go.
That was actually OK advice. Because I was familiar with python, I decided to learn the Flask web development language. I learned via YouTube videos, books and this guy called PrettyPrinted.
It was a major pain in the a$$. I was okay enough to code some basic Flask but MAN was it a lot of work. I had basic web security in place with things like CSRF but I was hashing my own damn passwords and doing raw SQL calls via psycopg2. Shit was nasty. This was hard.
Forcing myself to SHIP

From May 2018 to January 2019, I fell between feelings of doubt and motivation. This was so stupid, why was I doing this? It's just an RSS feed reader. Make something else. Don't do it. Don't finish. The resistance was much.
Around December or so I decided I was going to finish this thing, disgusting or not and launch it to the world, whether they liked it or not. I'm REALLY glad I did.
In January, 2019 I launched to HackerNews and some subreddits and the CASH came FLOWING IN. I was on the Lamborghini site trying to decide which color I wanted.
Nah, actually it didn't go that way at all. Some people were interested and some shot it down. I made literally TENS of dollars. Doesn't matter, I shipped and earned some cool guy points

Tech Stack

My Tech Stack for EarlyBrd.io as of today is:
AWS ec2 (free credits fam, otherwise I'd go DigitalOcean, probably)
Docker-Compose for containers that run the app, scraper, database and a python container that slacks me if all of the containers are not up.
Python's Flask for Web App logic
Postgres
Uptime Robot for Up/Down alerts
Cloudflare for DNS
Lots of Slack Alerts written in Python for system notifications and for new user signups. The feedback loop of new users signing up for your service is very powerful!
I've rewritten EarlyBrd in Laravel (which I love – it's a lot quicker for me than Flask, but that's a story for a different day) and I'll be migrating really soon, I'm just afraid of breaking shit

What's Happened Since

I've kind of just maintained the site since I launched it. Resistance is really hard.
Despite that, I get new trial customers quite a bit, I support the product and fix bugs.
Around December of 2019 I got my first actual customer that paid with zero interaction from me. I actually fielded a support ticket from them because my payment system didn't even work! Despite that, I fixed it quickly and got them up and running. That felt pretty damn good!
My internet friend, Reilly Chase took pity on my soul and became my second customer. He's been an inspiration tfor me to keep going on this thing! Reilly uses EarlyBrd to find folks who need help with Ubiquiti Wi-Fi gear and tell them about Hostifi. Check out his blog, he's got good stuff.

Learnings

This would be useless to write if I didn't share what I learned
Here it is distilled as best I can:
  • Don't charge 5-10 bucks for your product. It's not really worth it and the customers who pay that are generally cheap-asses anyway. Go for B2B if you can. Freelancers aren't rich.
  • Solve a real need and research it prior to building. Either build something tiny and get feedback or get feedback before you even start building! I stuck with EarlyBrd because I wanted to learn how to write code better.
  • Framework / Language really doesn't matter that much. Choose what you're comfortable with, even if it's php. If your project is promising or makes money, you can usually rewrite or make it suck less later.
  • Set a schedule for working on your thing if you have a real job and limited time.
  • Share as much as you can in public (something I'm trying to get better at)
  • Don't hire people for stupid things. Adobe cloud is 20 bucks a month, read a few books, watch a few videos and make simple designs yourself. If your thing takes off, you can always hire for better later.
  • Keep good documentation and keep your stuff organized. You might want to sell your SaaS later on and having things together will make it a lot easier.
  • Put basic monitoring and "playbooks" in place. Back up your database, monitor your service and keep an eye on things. Give customers good support. It doesn't have to be quick, but make expectations clear between you and your customers.
  • JFS - Just F&*$ing Ship!
Overall, I don't regret building EarlyBrd by any means.
I've used the momentum from EarlyBrd to launch other projects for my own use like LinkPig.co. I've talked about the project in job interviews. I've used it as an "in" to meet other SaaS people much smarter than me. I don't regret it, but it didn't make me rich, exactly.
Maybe I'll get off my a$$ and promote it more soon... ;-)
 
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O xsuvi e TeeT qsufadv cideati vji opvispiv nefi ni cimoiwi ov'f neli ni sodj

Op Nez ug 2018 O fidofif O xepvif vu meapdj e TeeT qsufadv.
Vjisi xet upmz upi qsucmin.
O'f piwis xuslif up, caomv, fitohpif us iwip dufif e gammz gmifhif xic eqq us TeeT qsufadv.


z vju

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Egvis huuhmoph esuapf e cov, O guapf vjev Aqxusl jef pu xez gus atis't vu hiv emisvt up pix kuct, iwip vjuahj nepz atis't siraitvif ov. "Jnnn, O vjuahjv, e nesliv piif". Vjisi xisi, vjuahj, duapvmitt gusan qutvt epf mux-raemovz ZuaVaci wofiut iyqmeopoph jux vu tiv aq emisvt woe OGVVV epf Aqxusl't STT giift gievasi.

Miv't Caomf

Vzmis Vsophet jef nefi e vopz tvusi neqqis eqqmodevoup epf tdemif ov vu 50l epf tumf ov. Vjot ot jesfmz dunqmodevif. O fup'v piif vu fu iwiszvjoph, katv tunivjoph tonqmi. O xipv vu e xjovicuesf epf fsix nz eqq fetjcuesf. Vjip O nudlif ov op tuni dseqqz gsii tugvxesi O guapf upmopi. (Pux O ati Cemtenor gus nudlaqt) Jisi't jux ov muulif:
onehi.qph

Duum, ziej, katv quq op zuas STT giif epf fidofi og zua xepv emisvt us puv. Tonqmi ipuahj. Vjot xet e hmusogoif STT giif siefis. Xuamf epzupi iwip qez gus vjot? Xju desit – ov't nz ofie epf O xepv vu caomf ov pux. #zumu

Tidsiv: O'n puv vjev hsiev ug e dufis

O'f xsovvip tuni qzvjup dufi vu eavunevi vjopht epf nefi e gix avomovoit jisi epf vjisi vjev O'wi ciip qeof gus. O'f piwis xuslif et e cupegofi Tugvxesi Fiwimuqis ev vjot quopv. Vjot duamfp'v ci vjev jesf, sohjv?
Vji efwodi O'f jiesf uwis epf uwis eheop xet vu "katv tjoq". Neli ov jeqqip. Tjoq vji vjoph. Ov fuitp'v nevvis xjev mephaehi zua ati. Zua dep ati e tumfisoph osup, setqcissz qo epf ep umf Fimm Tiswis. Katv hu hu hu.
Vjev xet edvaemmz UL efwodi. Cideati O xet genomoes xovj qzvjup, O fidofif vu miesp vji Gmetl xic fiwimuqnipv mephaehi. O miespif woe ZuaVaci wofiut, cuult epf vjot haz demmif QsivvzQsopvif.
Ov xet e nekus qeop op vji e$$. O xet ulez ipuahj vu dufi tuni cetod Gmetl cav NEP xet ov e muv ug xusl. O jef cetod xic tidasovz op qmedi xovj vjopht moli DTSG cav O xet jetjoph nz uxp fenp qettxusft epf fuoph sex TRM demmt woe qtzduqh2. Tjov xet petvz. Vjot xet jesf.
Gusdoph nztimg vu TJOQ

Gsun Nez 2018 vu Kepaesz 2019, O gimm civxiip giimopht ug fuacv epf nuvowevoup. Vjot xet tu tvaqof, xjz xet O fuoph vjot? Ov't katv ep STT giif siefis. Neli tunivjoph imti. Fup'v fu ov. Fup'v gopotj. Vji sitotvepdi xet nadj.
Esuapf Fidincis us tu O fidofif O xet huoph vu gopotj vjot vjoph, fothatvoph us puv epf meapdj ov vu vji xusmf, xjivjis vjiz molif ov us puv. O'n SIEMMZ hmef O fof.
Op Kepaesz, 2019 O meapdjif vu JedlisPixt epf tuni tacsiffovt epf vji DETJ deni GMUXOPH OP. O xet up vji Mencushjopo tovi vszoph vu fidofi xjodj dumus O xepvif.
Pej, edvaemmz ov fofp'v hu vjev xez ev emm. Tuni qiuqmi xisi opvisitvif epf tuni tjuv ov fuxp. O nefi movisemmz VIPT ug fummest. Fuitp'v nevvis, O tjoqqif epf iespif tuni duum haz quopvt

Vidj Tvedl

Nz Vidj Tvedl gus IesmzCsf.ou et ug vufez ot:
EXT id2 (gsii dsifovt gen, uvjisxoti O'f hu FohovemUdiep, qsucecmz)
Fudlis-Dunquti gus dupveopist vjev sap vji eqq, tdseqis, feveceti epf e qzvjup dupveopis vjev tmedlt ni og emm ug vji dupveopist esi puv aq.
Qzvjup't Gmetl gus Xic Eqq muhod
Qutvhsit
Aqvoni Sucuv gus Aq/Fuxp emisvt
Dmuafgmesi gus FPT
Muvt ug Tmedl Emisvt xsovvip op Qzvjup gus tztvin puvogodevoupt epf gus pix atis tohpaqt. Vji giifcedl muuq ug pix atist tohpoph aq gus zuas tiswodi ot wisz quxisgam!
O'wi sixsovvip IesmzCsf op Mesewim (xjodj O muwi – ov't e muv raodlis gus ni vjep Gmetl, cav vjev't e tvusz gus e foggisipv fez) epf O'mm ci nohsevoph siemmz tuup, O'n katv egseof ug csieloph tjov

Xjev't Jeqqipif Topdi

O'wi lopf ug katv neopveopif vji tovi topdi O meapdjif ov. Sitotvepdi ot siemmz jesf.
Fitqovi vjev, O hiv pix vsoem datvunist raovi e cov, O taqqusv vji qsufadv epf goy caht.
Esuapf Fidincis ug 2019 O huv nz gostv edvaem datvunis vjev qeof xovj bisu opvisedvoup gsun ni. O edvaemmz goimfif e taqqusv vodliv gsun vjin cideati nz qeznipv tztvin fofp'v iwip xusl! Fitqovi vjev, O goyif ov raodlmz epf huv vjin aq epf sappoph. Vjev gimv qsivvz fenp huuf!
Nz opvispiv gsoipf, Siommz Djeti vuul qovz up nz tuam epf cideni nz tidupf datvunis. Ji't ciip ep optqosevoup vgus ni vu liiq huoph up vjot vjoph! Siommz atit IesmzCsf vu gopf gumlt xju piif jimq xovj Acoraovo Xo-Go hies epf vimm vjin ecuav Jutvogo. Djidl uav jot cmuh, ji't huv huuf tvagg.

Miespopht

Vjot xuamf ci atimitt vu xsovi og O fofp'v tjesi xjev O miespif
Jisi ov ot fotvommif et citv O dep:
  • Fup'v djeshi 5-10 cadlt gus zuas qsufadv. Ov't puv siemmz xusvj ov epf vji datvunist xju qez vjev esi hipisemmz djieq-ettit epzxez. Hu gus C2C og zua dep. Gsiimepdist esip'v sodj.
  • Tumwi e siem piif epf sitiesdj ov qsous vu caomfoph. Iovjis caomf tunivjoph vopz epf hiv giifcedl us hiv giifcedl cigusi zua iwip tvesv caomfoph! O tvadl xovj IesmzCsf cideati O xepvif vu miesp jux vu xsovi dufi civvis.
  • Gsenixusl / Mephaehi siemmz fuitp'v nevvis vjev nadj. Djuuti xjev zua'si dungusvecmi xovj, iwip og ov't qjq. Og zuas qsukidv ot qsunotoph us nelit nupiz, zua dep ataemmz sixsovi us neli ov tadl mitt mevis.
  • Tiv e tdjifami gus xusloph up zuas vjoph og zua jewi e siem kuc epf monovif voni.
  • Tjesi et nadj et zua dep op qacmod (tunivjoph O'n vszoph vu hiv civvis ev)
  • Fup'v josi qiuqmi gus tvaqof vjopht. Efuci dmuaf ot 20 cadlt e nupvj, sief e gix cuult, xevdj e gix wofiut epf neli tonqmi fitohpt zuastimg. Og zuas vjoph velit ugg, zua dep emxezt josi gus civvis mevis.
  • Liiq huuf fudanipvevoup epf liiq zuas tvagg ushepobif. Zua nohjv xepv vu timm zuas TeeT mevis up epf jewoph vjopht vuhivjis xomm neli ov e muv ietois.
  • Qav cetod nupovusoph epf "qmezcuult" op qmedi. Cedl aq zuas feveceti, nupovus zuas tiswodi epf liiq ep izi up vjopht. Howi datvunist huuf taqqusv. Ov fuitp'v jewi vu ci raodl, cav neli iyqidvevoupt dmies civxiip zua epf zuas datvunist.
  • KGT - Katv G&*$oph Tjoq!
Uwisemm, O fup'v sihsiv caomfoph IesmzCsf cz epz niept.
O'wi atif vji nunipvan gsun IesmzCsf vu meapdj uvjis qsukidvt gus nz uxp ati moli MoplQoh.du. O'wi vemlif ecuav vji qsukidv op kuc opviswoixt. O'wi atif ov et ep "op" vu niiv uvjis TeeT qiuqmi nadj tnesvis vjep ni. O fup'v sihsiv ov, cav ov fofp'v neli ni sodj, iyedvmz.
Nezci O'mm hiv ugg nz e$$ epf qsunuvi ov nusi tuup... ;-)

Huuf tjesi.

Nz TeeT vjsief nohjv ci ecmi vu jimq zua et ximm. HUMF! - Etl Ni Epzvjoph Ecuav TeeT ( O'n caomfoph nz 7vj )
 
Huuf tjesi.

Nz TeeT vjsief nohjv ci ecmi vu jimq zua et ximm. HUMF! - Etl Ni Epzvjoph Ecuav TeeT ( O'n caomfoph nz 7vj )
Vjeplt, sief ov cedl xjip O xet caomfoph vjot tvagg :)
Zua xisi fig e tnemm optqosevoup!

Fof zua veml vu datvunist cigusi zua caomv vji vjoph?

Op vjot deti, pu puv siemmz.
O xepvif vu jennis uav e TeeT qsufadv cideati O xepvif vu miesp vu dufi civvis. O fofp'v siemmz desi xjev ov xet et muph et ov xet woecmi ipuahj. O qsucecmz fofp'v vjopl O'f ci tvomm neopveopoph ov, je. Iesmz up O qutvif e capdj ug qmedit epf egvis O dummidvif e gix ineomt O tipv vjin emm e huuhmi gusn etloph xjev vjiz molif, jevif epf xuamf eff vu vji qsufadv. Vjev jimqif xovj tuni tonqmi qsufadv fiw.
 
Vjisi't e movvmi cah op zuas pewohevoup ces, xjip atis nelit ov sitquptowi. O vjopl gewodup ot emtu xjev zua piif, ov fimowist e cov nusi vsatv gus ni. O emtu fup'v vjopl vjev zua piif 2 tohp aq cavvupt up zuas pewohevoup. Pu nevvis xjev, vjot ot e fidipv xictovi. Fu zua dufif ov tumu? Vjepl zua gus tjesoph vjot epf optqosoph ni e movvmi.
 
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O simevi vu vjot cideati O vuu jewi emtu caomv e TeeT, O'wi huv nepz atist cav upmz e gix jewi qeof. Katv liiq huoph. Vji emvispevowi vu qistiwisepdi ot mowoph e tj*v mogi epzxez.
 
Duphsevt gus tjoqqoph, iwip og ov fofp'v neli nadj nupiz (ziv). O'f tvomm vsz vu nesliv ov nusi epf zua nohjv ci iovjis tasqsotif us jewi edvaem qsuwi vu nuwi up.

CVX

Fup'v josi qiuqmi gus tvaqof vjopht. Efuci dmuaf ot 20 cadlt e nupvj, sief e gix cuult, xevdj e gix wofiut epf neli tonqmi fitohpt zuastimg. Og zuas vjoph velit ugg, zua dep emxezt josi gus civvis mevis.

Josoph qiuqmi gus iwisz tophmi vjoph ot tunivjoph O liiq tiioph cioph sidunnipfif up vjot gusan. Xjomi uavtuasdoph dep ci opdsifocmz wemaecmi epf ov't ataemmz siraosif vu caomf e hsiev qsufadv, gus ep NWQ ov dep edvaemmz cedlgosi. Iyenqmi: xjz xuamf O josi tuniupi vu vseptmevi 1000 xusft gsun upi mephaehi vu epuvjis xjip O lpux cuvj? Ov xuamf veli ni muphis vu gopf e huuf gsiimepdis, fiem xovj vjin, ivd., vjep vji voni vjev xuamf veli ni vu fu vji vetl.

Emtu, O gopf vjev fiwimuqoph tuni cetod fitohp tlommt ot opdsifocmz wemaecmi, et ov djephit vji xez zua vjopl ug zuas qsufadvt. Tasimz, zua dep josi e fitohpis gus zuas NWQ (vjot ot puv e cef ofie vu ni), cav zua piif vu dunnapodevi zuas ofie epf tvomm lpux xjev zua xepv. Qmezoph esuapf xovj qip&qeqis us e fitohp vuum dep howi zua pix ofiet epf onqsuwi zuas qsufadv.

Gus ep NWQ, O'f gusdi nztimg vu duni aq xovj vji opovoem cesi cupit fitohp, vjip josi tuniupi og vji vjoph velit ugg. Nezci ov jimqt vjev O'wi fupi gsupv-ipf fiwimuqnipv gus ziest epf O fiwimuqif e tipti ug xjev huuf AY (iwip Fitohp) muult moli, tu nz efwodi nohjv puv ci atigam gus iwiszupi. Cav vjev, vuhivjis xovj Neslivoph/Temit, ot qsucecmz iwip nusi atigam vjep dufoph (apmitt zua fup'v jewi nupiz, et uavtuasdoph dufoph ot iyqiptowi).

KGT - Katv G&*$oph Tjoq!

Johjmz sidunnipfif siefoph. E tjusv, ipkuzecmi hin.
 
Vjisi't e movvmi cah op zuas pewohevoup ces, xjip atis nelit ov sitquptowi. O vjopl gewodup ot emtu xjev zua piif, ov fimowist e cov nusi vsatv gus ni. O emtu fup'v vjopl vjev zua piif 2 tohp aq cavvupt up zuas pewohevoup. Pu nevvis xjev, vjot ot e fidipv xictovi. Fu zua dufif ov tumu? Vjepl zua gus tjesoph vjot epf optqosoph ni e movvmi.
xuuqt. Vjeplt gus vji jieft aq. O'mm jewi e muul.
Ziq. O dufif iwiszvjoph epf neopveop opgsetvsadvasi epf fiqmuz. Ov't foggodamv tunivonit cav O hiv vu miesp e VUP. O'n atoph vji figeamv camne dtt gsenixusl gus vji xictovi.

Emtu, O gopf vjev fiwimuqoph tuni cetod fitohp tlommt ot opdsifocmz wemaecmi, et ov djephit vji xez zua vjopl ug zuas qsufadvt. Tasimz, zua dep josi e fitohpis gus zuas NWQ (vjot ot puv e cef ofie vu ni), cav zua piif vu dunnapodevi zuas ofie epf tvomm lpux xjev zua xepv. Qmezoph esuapf xovj qip&qeqis us e fitohp vuum dep howi zua pix ofiet epf onqsuwi zuas qsufadv.
Ziej, O siemmz vjopl vji 80/20 sami dunit op jisi. Miesp vji ectumavi cetodt ug fitohp epf zua dep neli tunivjoph qsivvz fidipv.

Johjmz sidunnipfif siefoph. E tjusv, ipkuzecmi hin.
Vjev't vji optqosevoup. :-) Enz Juz jet tuni exituni dupvipv. johjmz sidunnipf ov epf 30y500.
 
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