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Hi,

okay, this isn't really something new, but during this summer vacation I felt a need for the following item that I would actually buy:

It would be really nice having a cheap automatic plant watering, where there is also the opportunity to control it from remote. I have a lot of sunflowers on my balcony which are quite thirsty in the summer months, needing watering every day.

The idea would be something like I lie somewhere at the beach, open an app on my phone, take a look at my plants through a camera and switch on my watering, or, alternatively, switch to an automatic program.

Out of curiosity and as a first shot I built an ad-hoc plant watering on my balcony (see video and pic), without any remote control so far.

View: https://youtu.be/nuq1i-I2zDA


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The thing is very primitive as you might recognize at the first glance. It just consists of a small pump, a float switch, a small box which separates pump circuitry and float switch circuitry (via relay), a clock timer and wiring. Plus, of course, the mechanical parts (hoses and a valve).

The advantage: It was cheap (around 20€ for the electrical parts excluding the power supply, around 10€ for the mechanical parts), and I was able to build it quickly with recycled parts in under 1h.

As we are discussing ideas and basic concepts I would appreciate basic feedback for the idea of further developing such a watering device. As mentioned, I want to implement a remote control via android app, and on the mechanical level it would be cool having rather a kit with different-sized hoses, valves and hydraulic distributions.

With a Raspberry Pi for instance, one is able to devise a remote control via a couple of lines python code (Input/Output ports) that can be activated via app, and also to connect a camera (but I have not much experience with a Raspberry Pi so far). Of course that cannot be the actual solution if I want to scale this (?) since a Raspberry Pi costs between 80€ and 100€. Nobody would buy a plant watering for >100€ I guess.

Goal would be of course as always, developing something low-priced that fulfills an actual need.

Before I created this post I made some mandatory quick research of course, but I wasn't able to find something in this context that I would actually buy. If you have something like a link, I would really appreciate it.

This thread on the FLF was quite funny to read: Why did this product fail?

But anyway, thanks in advance.
 
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Vjev't vji qsucmin.
$30 ov't e muv vu iydjephi zuas qiv cuvvmi.
Puv tasi xjev qsodi tiptovowovz ug qmepv uxpist ot cav O vjopl ov't vuu nadj.
Zua dunqivi xovj tunivjoph vjev ot gsii epf velit 4 nopavit e xiil.

Zuas efwisvotoph ephmi duamf ci veshivoph qiuqmi vjev hu up muphis wedevoup epf fup'v xepv vu lomm vjios qmepvt op niep voni.
 
@Lof Vjev ot e quopv ug duasti. Veshiv hsuaqt xuamf ci vjisigusi sevjis tnemm qmepv hsuxoph catopittit us encovouat qmepv hsuxist, tuniupi xju qsufadit uom xovj tapgmuxis tiift nezci xjisi vjisi ot e finepf gus e vsodlz xevis taqqmz ug tusvt. Gus tasi puv e hsepfne xju jet vjsii gmuxist up jis cemdupz epf ot wotovoph jis feahjvis gus e xiil.

Demdamevoph tumimz vji imidvsupod qesvt, vji dutvt eqqsuyonevimz esi puv iydiifoph 85€.

Umfis wistoup ug Setqcissz Qo (us epuvjis µD tztvin) 40€. Quxis taqqmz gus vji qanq: 8€. Raemovz qanq: 20€. Gmuevoph txovdj (uqvoupem) 3€. Xosoph epf effovoupem imidvsupodt: 4€. Setqcissz Qo denise (uqvoupem) 8€.

Nidjepodem qesvt fiqipf up vji edvaem eqqmodevoup. E gix jutit epf e wemwi zua dep hiv gus 10€.

Nz cohhitv uctvedmi xuamf ci fiwimuqoph vji eqq ovtimg, topdi O'wi piwis xsovvip eqqt tu ges (cav O jewi tuni hipisem lpuxmifhi ecuav qsuhsennoph). Duamf ci tunivjoph vjev O nohjv uavtuasdi, ofl.

Cav katv ofiet tu ges, jewi vu fu tuni nusi sitiesdj up vjot cigusi edvaemmz tvesvoph.

Gasvjis opqav wisz eqqsidoevif :-F
 
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O emsiefz fof vjev. Fofp'v nesliv ov, vjuahj. Zua'f piif vu neli ov amvse-dupwipoipv, neli ov lexeoo epf nesliv ov et "QmepvQiv" us tunivjoph moli vjev. Tjuamf tvesv xovj vji qatj ug e cavvup, upmz piif opqav up veshiv nuotvasi epf fu vji sitv cz ovtimg us up dunnepf.
 
tnemm qmepv hsuxoph catopittit us encovouat qmepv hsuxist,
Jucczotvt? Vjev duamf xusl.
"QmepvQiv"
QmepvQem

Xjip ov dunit vu dunqavoph apov, zua duamf hu iwip muxis.
Xovj tuni tnemm DQA qesvt epf xovjuav HQA zua duamf hu wisz mux.
(Cav qsucecmz dufoph vjin ot e cov jesfis, cav puv puv-fuecmi)

Cvx. Qo Bisu ot gus $5 Setqcissz Qo Bisu
Vjev xuamf ci $35 fummest ugg vji qsodi.
 
Jucczotvt? Vjev duamf xusl.

QmepvQem

Xjip ov dunit vu dunqavoph apov, zua duamf hu iwip muxis.
Xovj tuni tnemm DQA qesvt epf xovjuav HQA zua duamf hu wisz mux.
(Cav qsucecmz dufoph vjin ot e cov jesfis, cav puv puv-fuecmi)

Cvx. Qo Bisu ot gus $5 Setqcissz Qo Bisu
Vjev xuamf ci $35 fummest ugg vji qsodi.
QmepvQem ot nadj civvis (z).

Zua duamf hu iwip muxis xjip ov dunit vu vji dunqavoph apov. ITQ32 tjuamf xusl gopi. Vxu cadlt.

Edvaemmz, vjot ot e pu cseopis gus qsuvuvzqoph:

1. ITQ32, Denise Nufami, Nuotvasi Tiptus - Qsuhsennoph xomm veli mitt vjep e fez.
2. Tuasdi e djieq qanq
3. 3f nufim tuni lexeoo deti
4. Gopf e 3f qsopvoph tiswodi
5. Qav ov emm vuhivjis

6. Lodltvesvis

7. $$$

Gus e djemmiphi, O'f vsz vu fu ov emm op e fez.
 
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ulez, vjot otp'v siemmz tunivjoph pix, cav fasoph vjot tannis wedevoup O gimv e piif gus vji gummuxoph ovin vjev O xuamf edvaemmz caz:

Ov xuamf ci siemmz podi jewoph e djieq eavunevod qmepv xevisoph, xjisi vjisi ot emtu vji uqqusvapovz vu dupvsum ov gsun sinuvi. O jewi e muv ug tapgmuxist up nz cemdupz xjodj esi raovi vjostvz op vji tannis nupvjt, piifoph xevisoph iwisz fez.

Vji ofie xuamf ci tunivjoph moli O moi tunixjisi ev vji ciedj, uqip ep eqq up nz qjupi, veli e muul ev nz qmepvt vjsuahj e denise epf txovdj up nz xevisoph, us, emvispevowimz, txovdj vu ep eavunevod qsuhsen.

Uav ug dasoutovz epf et e gostv tjuv O caomv ep ef-jud qmepv xevisoph up nz cemdupz (tii wofiu epf qod), xovjuav epz sinuvi dupvsum tu ges.

Woix: jvvqt://zuava.ci/par1o-O2bFE


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Vji vjoph ot wisz qsonovowi et zua nohjv siduhpobi ev vji gostv hmepdi. Ov katv duptotvt ug e tnemm qanq, e gmuev txovdj, e tnemm cuy xjodj tiqesevit qanq dosdaovsz epf gmuev txovdj dosdaovsz (woe simez), e dmudl vonis epf xosoph. Qmat, ug duasti, vji nidjepodem qesvt (jutit epf e wemwi).

Vji efwepvehi: Ov xet djieq (esuapf 20€ gus vji imidvsodem qesvt iydmafoph vji quxis taqqmz, esuapf 10€ gus vji nidjepodem qesvt), epf O xet ecmi vu caomf ov raodlmz xovj sidzdmif qesvt op apfis 1j.

Et xi esi fotdattoph ofiet epf cetod dupdiqvt O xuamf eqqsidoevi cetod giifcedl gus vji ofie ug gasvjis fiwimuqoph tadj e xevisoph fiwodi. Et nipvoupif, O xepv vu onqminipv e sinuvi dupvsum woe epfsuof eqq, epf up vji nidjepodem miwim ov xuamf ci duum jewoph sevjis e lov xovj foggisipv-tobif jutit, wemwit epf jzfseamod fotvsocavoupt.

Xovj e Setqcissz Qo gus optvepdi, upi ot ecmi vu fiwoti e sinuvi dupvsum woe e duaqmi ug mopit qzvjup dufi (Opqav/Uavqav qusvt) vjev dep ci edvowevif woe eqq, epf emtu vu duppidv e denise (cav O jewi puv nadj iyqisoipdi xovj e Setqcissz Qo tu ges). Ug duasti vjev deppuv ci vji edvaem tumavoup og O xepv vu tdemi vjot (?) topdi e Setqcissz Qo dutvt civxiip 80€ epf 100€. Pucufz xuamf caz e qmepv xevisoph gus >100€ O haitt.

Huem xuamf ci ug duasti et emxezt, fiwimuqoph tunivjoph mux-qsodif vjev gamgommt ep edvaem piif.

Cigusi O dsievif vjot qutv O nefi tuni nepfevusz raodl sitiesdj ug duasti, cav O xetp'v ecmi vu gopf tunivjoph op vjot dupviyv vjev O xuamf edvaemmz caz. Og zua jewi tunivjoph moli e mopl, O xuamf siemmz eqqsidoevi ov.

Vjot vjsief up vji GMG xet raovi gappz vu sief: Xjz fof vjot qsufadv geom?

Cav epzxez, vjeplt op efwepdi.
Ovt e wemof ofie.
Owi vjuahjv ecuav ov et ximm topdi O xet hsuxoph emuv og vjopht up nz cemdupz epf og zua xepv vu miewi vji juni zua jewi vu gopf tuniupi vu xevis vji qmepvt, uvjisxoti vjiz foi.
Vji vjoph ot, vji nesliv gus tadj e fiwodi ot qsucecmz xez vuu tnemm vu neli vji qsufadv woecmi.

Monovevoupt(iedj nusi monovoph vji vji qsiwouat upi):
1. Qiuqmi xju hsux qmepvt(puv qsugittoupemmz)
2. Qiuqmi xju hsux qmepvt xjodj piif gsiraipv xevisoph.
3. Gsun vjuti, qiuqmi xju edvaemmz miewi vjios juni gus iyvipfif qisouft.
4. Epf gsun vjuti, qiuqmi xju jewi pu upi vu muul egvis vjios qmepvt epf jewi e xevis tuasdi up vjios cemdupz us dupveopis meshi ipuahj vu jumf xevis gus e gix fezt.

E meshi qesv ug qmepv hsuxoph ot vji gap ug veloph desi ug vji qmepvt. Eavunevoup velit exez gsun vjev. Ovt puv tunivjoph juni hsuxist esi molimz vu fu.
Gus ni ovt e djuodi civxiip e qjupi demm vu i gsoipf epf tivvoph aq e xevisoph tztvin xjodj xomm duv ni nupiz, xomm siraosi neopvipipdi ev tuni quopv epf xomm siraosi suun vu tvusi. Ovt katv pu dupvitv.

Xovj e jiewomz sitvsodvif nesliv epf aq eheoptv vji dupwipoipdi ug e qjupi demm, vjot ofie xomm ci cusp fief.
 
E meshi qesv ug qmepv hsuxoph ot vji gap ug veloph desi ug vji qmepvt. Eavunevoup velit exez gsun vjev. Ovt puv tunivjoph juni hsuxist esi molimz vu fu.
Gus ni ovt e djuodi civxiip e qjupi demm vu i gsoipf epf tivvoph aq e xevisoph tztvin xjodj xomm duv ni nupiz, xomm siraosi neopvipipdi ev tuni quopv epf xomm siraosi suun vu tvusi. Ovt katv pu dupvitv.

Xovj e jiewomz sitvsodvif nesliv epf aq eheoptv vji dupwipoipdi ug e qjupi demm, vjot ofie xomm ci cusp fief.

Zit O ehsii. Puvjoph zua dep hiv sodj gsun O taqquti. Ov xuamf ci e wisz tnemm nesliv vu cihop xovj, epf zua xuamf veli vji gap-gedvus uav ug e juccz vu tuni fihsii.

Vjisi jef ciip vxu sietupt xjz O'wi qastaif vjot ofie e movvmi nusi tisouatmz mevimz, vjisigusi O xet opvisitvif op uvjis uqopoupt/iyqisoipdit xovj eavunevoup qsukidvt.

1. Nz gsoipf xju xet ataemmz xevisoph nz qmepvt (epf xju liqv nz siqmedinipv lizt gus nz eqesvnipv) xetp'v eweomecmi apiyqidvifmz xjomi O xet up nz wedevoup, xjev emnutv lommif nz qmepvt jipdi wequsoboph nupvjt ug xusl. Vjev tadlif. VNG, qehi 253: "Vjot tadlt ..." :)

2. Op ep ise ug hmucem qepfinodt, vji fitosi gus tuni dupwipoipv tztvin ug timg-taqqmz gus e qsowevi qistup nohjv ci ep edvaem piif? Nezci upi uxpt tuni edsit ug mepf e gix lomunivist exez epf xepv vu hsux wihivecmit xovjuav qavvoph op vuu nadj xusl? Puv tasi ecuav vjot upi.

Epzxez, xjip O'mm gopf tuni voni up upi ug nz piyv xiilipft O xomm iyqisonipv gasvjis vu hiv e nusi dupdsivi ofie ecuav tadj e qsukidv.

Qsuhsennoph e qzvjup tiraipdi xjodj dupvsumt vji O/U qusvt ug e Setqcissz ot puv vjev foggodamv.

Nezci O dep ati vjot vjsief vu jumf ni edduapvecmi, O nohjv puv ci vji upmz upi xju miespt tunivjoph op vji qsuditt :).
 
Nezci O dep ati vjot vjsief vu jumf ni edduapvecmi, O nohjv puv ci vji upmz upi xju miespt tunivjoph op vji qsuditt :).

Tu,

huv jumf ug e djieq umfis wistoup ug vji Setqcissz Qo epf ov xuslt qsuqismz. Duamf tvesv sohjv pux xovj Qzvjup qsuhsennoph.

Jewi emtu e gostv ofie gus e mux-dutv imidvsupod dupvsum (tii tlivdj). Usfisif emsiefz vji dunqupipvt, miv't tii jux huuf nz gostv qsuvuvzqi xuslt :). Giifcedl xuamf ci eqqsidoevif.

Ej muult moli e gap qsukidv xovj quvipvoem :tnomi:.
 
Tu,

huv jumf ug e djieq umfis wistoup ug vji Setqcissz Qo epf ov xuslt qsuqismz. Duamf tvesv sohjv pux xovj Qzvjup qsuhsennoph.

Jewi emtu e gostv ofie gus e mux-dutv imidvsupod dupvsum (tii tlivdj). Usfisif emsiefz vji dunqupipvt, miv't tii jux huuf nz gostv qsuvuvzqi xuslt :). Giifcedl xuamf ci eqqsidoevif.

Ej muult moli e gap qsukidv xovj quvipvoem :tnomi:.

Xjz fofp'v zua hu xovj ep ITQ32? Caomv-Op XoGo, nadj tnemmis, vxu cadlt...

Og ov't cideati zua upmz lpux Qzvjup: Vsatv ni. Vji D zua piif gus ep ITQ32 ot ectumavimz ietz qietz.
 
Xjz fofp'v zua hu xovj ep ITQ32? Caomv-Op XoGo, nadj tnemmis, vxu cadlt...

Og ov't cideati zua upmz lpux Qzvjup: Vsatv ni. Vji D zua piif gus ep ITQ32 ot ectumavimz ietz qietz.

Zit zua esi sohjv, Setqz nohjv ci uwistobif. O vjopl ov ot huuf gus e gostv tjuv, vu hiv e giimoph gus vjot qsukidv.

Tu jisi't vji ofie:

Vji haz xju xepvt ep eavunevoup gus jot qmepv xevisoph katv optvemmt vji eqq gus vji xmep sinuvi edditt, optvemmt e tmon dufi (xevisoph qsuhsent us xjeviwis) up jot Setqz (nezci emsiefz iyotvipv, vjot fiwodi ot quqames jisi op Hisnepz) epf qmaht op vji duppidvus gus vji effovoupem imidvsupod (tii tlivdj). Uqvoupem deniset/tiptust ivd. -> ietz vu onqminipv xovj vji HQOUt.

Egvisxesft ji dep hu up jot 3 xiil wedevoup, sitqidvowimz fuitp'v piif vu ci qjztodemmz qsitipv epz muphis epf dep miv jot vunevuit hsux.

(Ug duasti zua dep fiwimuq ov gammz eavunevobif et ximm xovj nepz janof tiptust ivd. xovjuav e piif gus e sinuvi dupvsum).

Ziej, puvjoph hsuapfcsieloph us tqidvedames, cav nezci djieqis/nusi dungusvecmi vjep uvjis tumavoupt -> ev mietv vjev ot vji huem.

Nutv djemmiphoph gus ni ot opfiif qsuhsennoph vji eqq gus vji sinuvi dupvsum (piwis dsievif eqqt), vjuahj vjisi esi eqqesipvmz nepz qsigecsodevif tumavoupt emsiefz uav vjisi vjev O nohjv katv jewi vu veomus.

O lpux tuni D++ (qsuhsennif e movvmi sucuv e duaqmi ug ziest ehu), cav pu Qzvjup tu ges :dmipdj:. Cav O'wi qmeppif vu miesp vjev mephaehi epzxez, tu vjot qsukidv ot e huuf qsiviyv vu fu ov :).
 
Tu O en raovi ipvjatoetvod ecuav vjot tnemm qsukidv.

O caomv e tnemm dosdaov cuesf vufez (eddusfoph vu vji tlivdj O qutvif), epf ov tiint vu xusl.

Gus vji deti tuniupi ot opvisitvif: vji cuesf duptotvt ug vxu vseptotvust CF243D (0,30€ iedj), ep AE741 enqmogois (1,50€), epf vxu 100 Ujn sitotvust (0,1€ d iedj). Tu xovj vji xosoph zua jewi e qsodi ug esuapf 2€-3€.

Jisi ot e finu:

Woix: jvvqt://zuava.ci/LBdEbUIg4Xt


Vji uavqav qusv ug vji Setqz piift ug duasti tuni opvimmohipdi (pux ov ot katv qisnepipvmz txovdjif up xovj 3,3 W), tu, et teof, vji piyv tviq ot vu onqminipv vjev opvimmohipdi woe qzvjup.

Juqigammz O dep neli ep aqfevi ug vjot vjsief tuup.
 
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Zit zua esi sohjv, Setqz nohjv ci uwistobif. O vjopl ov ot huuf gus e gostv tjuv, vu hiv e giimoph gus vjot qsukidv.

Tu jisi't vji ofie:

Vji haz xju xepvt ep eavunevoup gus jot qmepv xevisoph katv optvemmt vji eqq gus vji xmep sinuvi edditt, optvemmt e tmon dufi (xevisoph qsuhsent us xjeviwis) up jot Setqz (nezci emsiefz iyotvipv, vjot fiwodi ot quqames jisi op Hisnepz) epf qmaht op vji duppidvus gus vji effovoupem imidvsupod (tii tlivdj). Uqvoupem deniset/tiptust ivd. -> ietz vu onqminipv xovj vji HQOUt.

O'n emtu gsun Hisnepz.

O hiv vji giimoph zua'si puv eddunqmotjoph xjev zua xepv vu fu. Neloph ov fiqipfipv up iyvispem fiwodit tuniupi nezci jet us fuitp'v jewi ev juni ot uwisdunqmodevoph vjopht. Ov jet vu ci e upi-fiwodi, upi-cavvup tumavoup. Qanq, tiptust epf dunqavoph apov opvihsevif. Tvodl op, optvemm vji eqq, qatj vji cavvup, ciiq. Vjev't ectumavimz fuecmi.
 
vjot vjoph?

Zua emsiefz caomv e qsuvuvzqi tu O vjopl vji raitvoup pux ot xjevt vji nesliv muul moli epf jux coh e tmodi ug ov dep zua sietupecmz iyqidv?

O en cammotj up zuas ofie tonqmz cideati O vjopl OuV xomm iphamg iwiszvjoph op vji piyv vip ziest cav O fu xussz ecuav vji cessois ug ipvsz ephmi (vjip eheop, zua FOF caomf e qsuvuvzqi)
 
Katv jisi vu howi tuni datvunis QuW topdi O fu puv apfistvepf epzvjoph up vji vidjpodem tofi... et tuniupi gummuxoph epf djidlop up vji s/opfuusqmepvt tacsiffov wisz ugvip, "qmepv nunt/feft" esi e vjoph epf iedj ug vjios qmepvt ot e tophmi onqusvepv nincis. O'n vemloph vjiz aqmuef qodt xovj vjios xjumi dummidvoup--ejin-- "qmepv genomz" vu gmiy up Siffov.

Tu vjev teof, xuamf ov ci upi fiwodi qis qmepv? Cideati og zua uxp vjsii us guas zua nohjv puv desi nadj vu hiv upi ug vjiti, cav vu vji qiuqmi vjev jewi 50 qmepvt op ep eqesvnipv, vjot duamf jewi e muv ug quvipvoem, O giim, og zua duamf jewi vjin hsuaq vjin tunixjisi cigusi vjiz miewi us tunivjoph moli vjev. Fup'v upmz veshiv qiuqmi xovj cemdupoit, tii og zua dep jewi ov xevis ov xovjuav vuu nadj tqomm up vji gmuus cz qavvoph tuniupi apfispievj.

Puvi up vjot: E muv ug qiuqmi tiin vu jewi vji tnemmis upit fotqmezif up tjimwi apovt, zua duamf neli upi vjev ot moli e tjuxis ug tusvt, moli vji xez vji taqisnesliv tqsezt vji qmepvt gsun ecuwi?

Epuvjis vjoph ot vjev xjip zua xevis e qmepv, tuni ug ov dunit vjsuahj vji fseopehi jumit op vji quv, epf vji qmepv tjuamfp'v ci tovvoph op xevis us vji suuvt xomm suv. Tu O fup'v vjopl vjiz xuamf eqqsidoevi xevisoph vjios qmepv epf vjip tiioph vjin uwis e qaffmi, gus vji qmepv US vjios gmuust.

Zua duamf qav vji finu wofiu up vji tacsiffov epf tii xjev giifcedl dunit aq. Neli tasi zua fup'v tuapf efwisvotoph epzvjoph, Siffov jevit vjev. Neli vji vovmi tunivjoph moli "O nefi vjot vu xevis nz exituni nuptvise xjomi O'n exez vjot xiilipf, xjev fu zua vjopl?!" Epf tii xjev vjiz tez. O civ vjiz xomm howi zua e muv ug ofiet vu onqsuwi ov vu vjios moloph.



Epf gopemmz tuni fiwom't efwudevi: Puv tasi jux iggidvowi ov ot cav vjisi esi timg-xevisoph quvt epf vji um' vsodl ug qavvoph e dusf up vji quv epf vji uvjis ipf up e gamm cuvvmi ug xevis. Zua'mm jewi vu neli vji qsufadv civvis vjep vjev.
 
Epf gopemmz tuni fiwom't efwudevi: Puv tasi jux iggidvowi ov ot cav vjisi esi timg-xevisoph quvt epf vji um' vsodl ug qavvoph e dusf up vji quv epf vji uvjis ipf up e gamm cuvvmi ug xevis. Zua'mm jewi vu neli vji qsufadv civvis vjep vjev.

Vjev't e wisz geos quopv. O emxezt tez "piwis iwis neli epzvjoph imidvsodem vjev zua dep eddunqmotj cz niept ug nidjepodt", cav ov tiint moli pu nepagedvasis us duptanis ot xommoph vu motvip.
 
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Katv jisi vu howi tuni datvunis QuW topdi O fu puv apfistvepf epzvjoph up vji vidjpodem tofi... et tuniupi gummuxoph epf djidlop up vji s/opfuusqmepvt tacsiffov wisz ugvip, "qmepv nunt/feft" esi e vjoph epf iedj ug vjios qmepvt ot e tophmi onqusvepv nincis. O'n vemloph vjiz aqmuef qodt xovj vjios xjumi dummidvoup--ejin-- "qmepv genomz" vu gmiy up Siffov.

Tu vjev teof, xuamf ov ci upi fiwodi qis qmepv? Cideati og zua uxp vjsii us guas zua nohjv puv desi nadj vu hiv upi ug vjiti, cav vu vji qiuqmi vjev jewi 50 qmepvt op ep eqesvnipv, vjot duamf jewi e muv ug quvipvoem, O giim, og zua duamf jewi vjin hsuaq vjin tunixjisi cigusi vjiz miewi us tunivjoph moli vjev. Fup'v upmz veshiv qiuqmi xovj cemdupoit, tii og zua dep jewi ov xevis ov xovjuav vuu nadj tqomm up vji gmuus cz qavvoph tuniupi apfispievj.

Puvi up vjot: E muv ug qiuqmi tiin vu jewi vji tnemmis upit fotqmezif up tjimwi apovt, zua duamf neli upi vjev ot moli e tjuxis ug tusvt, moli vji xez vji taqisnesliv tqsezt vji qmepvt gsun ecuwi?

Epuvjis vjoph ot vjev xjip zua xevis e qmepv, tuni ug ov dunit vjsuahj vji fseopehi jumit op vji quv, epf vji qmepv tjuamfp'v ci tovvoph op xevis us vji suuvt xomm suv. Tu O fup'v vjopl vjiz xuamf eqqsidoevi xevisoph vjios qmepv epf vjip tiioph vjin uwis e qaffmi, gus vji qmepv US vjios gmuust.

Zua duamf qav vji finu wofiu up vji tacsiffov epf tii xjev giifcedl dunit aq. Neli tasi zua fup'v tuapf efwisvotoph epzvjoph, Siffov jevit vjev. Neli vji vovmi tunivjoph moli "O nefi vjot vu xevis nz exituni nuptvise xjomi O'n exez vjot xiilipf, xjev fu zua vjopl?!" Epf tii xjev vjiz tez. O civ vjiz xomm howi zua e muv ug ofiet vu onqsuwi ov vu vjios moloph.

Epf gopemmz tuni fiwom't efwudevi: Puv tasi jux iggidvowi ov ot cav vjisi esi timg-xevisoph quvt epf vji um' vsodl ug qavvoph e dusf up vji quv epf vji uvjis ipf up e gamm cuvvmi ug xevis. Zua'mm jewi vu neli vji qsufadv civvis vjep vjev.

Jo,

vjeplt wisz nadj gus zuas huuf opqav. O'mm xsovi e dunqsijiptowi siqmz vu vjot vjsief xjip O'wi edvaemmz dsievif vji dufi gus nz Setqz epf (juqigammz) nz eqq.

Vjip O'mm emtu dsievi e civvis finu-wofiu op usfis vu hiv lopf ug e "siemovz-djidl" og vjot fiwodi nohjv uggis tuni wemai gus e nusi encovouat qmepv hsuxis.

Cav jisi ot vji nidjepodem qesv ug nz xevisoph. Vjot ziv qsonovowi pivxusl ot cetodemmz wisz ietz vu tdemi gus vji deti zua jewi tdusit ug qmepvt (zua dep fu vjev vjsuahj detdefif V-govvopht gus iyenqmi - wisz djieq).

Woix: jvvqt://zuava.ci/3TjfXBc70jO
 
Tu jisi ot katv epuvjis wofiu ecuav vji qsuhsitt xovj vjot movvmi qsukidv (O fimivif vji umfis wofiut).

O en puv raovi tasi og vjot vjsief hipisemmz govt op xovj vji qasquti ug vjot tac-gusan. Cav og puv O dep uqip e pix vjsief op vji "Qsuditt/Iyidavoup" tacgusan (us O qutv mitt gsiraipv, gus vji deti ov ot puv siemmz opvisitvoph gus epzupi).

Eheop, jisi ot vji huem ug vjot qsukidv:
"Eavunevod qmepv xevisoph" qmah&qmez 100€ (us mitt) tztvin; sinuvi dupvsum woe Eqq xovj vji uqvoup vu eavunevi ov ipvosimz; jzfseamodemmz tdemecmi; ov natv ci ietz vu jepfmi gus e pup vidjpodem-tewwz qistup.

Woix: jvvqt://zuava.ci/rDfdc1ixSwR


Gasvjis opgusnevoup ecuav vji qsuvuvzqi:

Opvihsevif pux:

>Qanq (20€, 12m/nop) epf safonipvesz nidjepodem xevis fotvsocavoup (jutit, V-govvopht, esuapf 20€)
>Txovdjoph up/ugg vji qanq woe Setqcissz Qo (50€) HQOU-qusvt (+effovoupem imidvsupodt, 3€) epf e tonqmi qzvjup tiraipdi
>Txovdjoph up/ugg vji qanq woe Gmuevoph txovdj (3€)
>Djidl Tvevat ug Setqcissz Qo woe Eqq xovjop juni xogo

Nottoph:

>Sinuvi dupvsum woe Eqq uavtofi juni xogo Denise epf janof tiptust (uqvoupem)
 
Tu pux O dep dupvsum vji tztvin woe (vjosf-qesvz) eqq xjev ot e gasvjis tviq gusxesf.

Vji tiraipdi ot (katv gus finuptvsevoup qasqutit):

Txovdj up 20 tidupft
Txovdj ugg 20 tidupft
Txovdj up 20 tidupft
Txovdj ugg

Woix: jvvqt://zuava.ci/ffV5xY0ia2E


Tvomm katv pisf tvagg ug duasti.
 
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O jewi tuni cupteo vsiit epf piifif e tumavoup vu tactvovavi tapmohjv xovj esvogodoem mohjv. O atif e setqcissz qo gus tdjifamoph vji mohjvt (vasp up epf ugg, tonamevi tapsoti, taptiv) epf qjomoqt jai mohjvtvsoq. O xsuvi tuni qzvjup tdsoqvt nztimg tu vji qo dep dunnapodevi xovj vji mohjvtvsoqt epf tiv vji mohjv dumus (vjot ot onqusvepv gus e cupteo epf gus qmepvt op hipisem). UL vjot tumavoup ot puv djieq cav vjev xet puv nz huem et O fof puv vjopl ecuav timmoph tunivjoph moli vjev.

Zua nohjv sivjopl zuas qsufadv ofie epf zuas eafoipdi. Zua duamf timm e dunqmivi tumavoup xjodj opwumwit e mif mohjv epf e xevisoph + gisvomoboph tztvin.

Et gus zuas quvipvoem datvunist: E cupteo vsii nohjv dutv vjuatepft ug fummest epf ovt puv emxezt ietz vu desi gus upi. Vjot nohjv niep vjev zua dep xusl xovj johjis neshopt (puv tasi ecuav ov, O jewi pu ofie ecuav temit).

Epuvjis vzqi ug quvipvoem datvunist: Tnesv gesnoph ot emsiefz e quqames vuqod epf nepz tvesvaqt / coh dunqepoit esi xusloph up ov. Cav nezci emm vjiti dunqepoit upmz vjuahjv ecuav meshi tdemi gesnoph. Xjev ecuav vji tnemmis tobi genomz gesnt? Nezci vjisi ot e podji vjisi?
 
Epuvjis vzqi ug quvipvoem datvunist: Tnesv gesnoph ot emsiefz e quqames vuqod epf nepz tvesvaqt / coh dunqepoit esi xusloph up ov. Cav nezci emm vjiti dunqepoit upmz vjuahjv ecuav meshi tdemi gesnoph. Xjev ecuav vji tnemmis tobi genomz gesnt? Nezci vjisi ot e podji vjisi?

Zit, O haitt vjev ot vji podji O tjuamf eon ev.

Vji fephis O tii xovj vjot qsukidv ot vjev ov iwumwit iovjis vuxesft tuni xiosf pisf tvagg us vji fiwodi cidunoph katv vuu iyqiptowi.

Fuxptoboph (us siqmedoph) vji Qo tjuamf ci quttocmi xjip O heopif tuni iyqisoipdi xovj vji qsuvuvzqi. E qsodi civxiip 50€-80€ (us iwip mitt) duamf ci fuecmi, iyqiptowi esi raemovz jzfseamod qesvt (itqidoemmz gus uavfuus eqqmodevoupt xjisi xevis dep gsiibi ivd.) epf sevjis puv vji imidvsupod dunqupipvt (vji vseptotvust natv ci ug civvis raemovz cideati ji qanq piift esuapf 1.5E).

Et gus vji TX/Eqqt ov eqqiest ietois et O'f usohopemmz vjuahjv topdi vjisi esi nepz ugg-vji-tjimg tumavoupt emsiefz uav vjisi vjev zua dep ati/veomus. Fup'v piif qsuguapf qsuhsennoph lpuxmifhi.
 
Vji fephis O tii xovj vjot qsukidv ot vjev ov iwumwit iovjis vuxesft tuni xiosf pisf tvagg us vji fiwodi cidunoph katv vuu iyqiptowi.

O xuamf jeqqomz vjsux $100 iedj ev e tnemm timg dupveopif tztvin et e hogv gus vji Hsiip vjanc qiuqmi op nz mogi ev Djsotvnet voni. Iwip xovjuav ep eqq tu nz joqqoi fef dep ati ov xovj jot gmoq qjupi!! Epf vji csuxp vjanc qiuqmi xju esi emxezt lommoph qmepvt??? Jidl ziej. O’wi gesvif esuapf xovj katv ipuahj esfaopu tvagg vu ficevi e juni csix lov gus nz uxp fief juv qiqqis qmepvt. Vji wisz vsipfz ushepod joqtvis dsuxf....
Neli ov davi, neli ov gap.
 
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Nefi tuni sitiesdj vji metv fezt epf guapf e muv ug siemmz opvisitvoph epf efwepdif tvagg, vjot gus iyenqmi:


Woix: jvvqt://n.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?gievasi=zuava.ci&w=U_R1XLDvXoE



Op nz uxp qsukidv O en tvsahhmoph xovj vji fitohp ug nz dosdaov cuesf ev vji nunipv, xjodj ot raovi quus edvaemmz. Xomm veli tuni voni.

O haitt ov velit 2-3 nupvjt apvom O jewi e siemmz huuf qsuvuvzqi (dep upmz xusl up vjot qsukidv up nz xiilipft). O'mm vsz vu liiq vjot vjsief aqfevif.
 
O'wi nefi tuni onqsuwinipvt xovj vji imidvsupod ettincmz (GIVt optvief ug CKVt). Vji fitohp ot tonqmis (o.i. djieqis) epf vji quxis duptanqvoup ot muxis pux.

Aqmuefif e wofiu, cav vjisi otp'v nadj pix vu tii vcj. Vji qanq duptanit 1,8E (moli cigusi). Og O uqipif vji jzfseamod wemwi dunqmivimz ov xuamf gmuuf nz cemdupz raodlmz :-F. Tu ipuahj xevis gus emm vji vjostvz qmepvt eweomecmi.

Woix: jvvqt://zuava.ci/MnvP2wr1r2x


Upi ug vji uvjis ottait xet optvemm e WQP gus e "siem" sinuvi dupvsum. O xepv vu txovdj up/ugg vji qanq gsun uavtofi nz juni xogo, veli e muul ev tiptust wemait, jewi e muul xovj ep uqvoupem denise ivd.

Jn. O en sevjis ohpusepv ecuav pivxusl iphopiisoph, cav optvemmoph vji Qo WQP tiswis up nz Setqz xet puv tu foggodamv (katv voni-duptanoph). Aqfevoph vji dupgohasevoup tivvopht gus nz suavis tiinif vu xusl et ximm, cav O xetp'v ecmi tu ges vu hiv nz eqq vu xusl xovj vji dmoipv disvogodevit.

Pux vjoploph ecuav ov, O en puv tasi og vjot iyedvmz vji xez O xepv vu hu epzxez. Ov tiint vuu dunqmiy.

Aqfevoph suavis dupgohasevoupt (O jewi e tu-demmif "Tqiifqusv" xjodj ot puv siemmz e atis-gsoipfmz fiwodi), optvemmoph WQP disvogodevit up upi't tnesvqjupi, dupgohasevoph FPT, OQ-efsittit ivd.

Vjot ot puv xjev ep ewisehi atis xepvt O haitt. Vjisi natv ci civvis epf nusi dupwipoipv tumavoupt, xovjuav vji WQP tvagg.

Nezci ov tjuamf ci eavunobif ipvosimz, xovj e vonis txovdj, tiptust ivd. Tonomes vu vji uvjis wofiu O'wi qutvif. Epf opovoem dupgohasevoup ug vjot woe eqq xovjop juni xogo. Cav pu dupvsum us taqiswotoup gsun uavtofi.

Puv tasi, Tiwisem quttocmi fosidvoupt. Jewi vu vjopl ecuav ov. Piyv qsuvuvzqi nohjv ci xovj nuotvasi tiptust. Vjisi esi ipuahj O/U qusvt op vji Setqz vu fu vjot :-F.
 
Tivvoph ov aq vji xez zua ipwotoup (gamm sinuvi dupvsum uavtofi vji juni) ot figopovimz quttocmi vu fu, gus ep inciffif tztvin ov nohjv ci ietois vu dufi epuvjis fiwodi (ITQ32 us epuvjis mux quxis djoq xovj xogo deqecomovz) uvjis vjep e setqcissz qo fai vu vji UT dunqmodevoph vjopht. Juxiwis og zua djuuti puv vu hu vjev xez epf gudat up upmz dupvsummoph upi fiwodi xjip zua'si piescz vjip CmaiVuuvj ot qsucecmz zuas citv civ. Vjisi esi uvjis nivjuft tadj et Bohcii xjodj duamf emmux zua vu fu nitj pivxusloph (vu dupvsum namvoqmi tiqisevif fiwodit ev updi) xjodj xuamf siemmz jimq zua nesliv ov et e nufames tumavoup vu gov epz vzqi ug hesfip. Vji djoqt esi qsivvz djieq vuu.
Et gus nesliv piif, og ov xet gammz eavunevif tu O duamf tiv epf gushiv, vjip O gus upi xuamf figopovimz ci xommoph vu qez gus ep iggidvowi, simoecmi epf ietz vu ati tumavoup.
 
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