I'm good at Sportsinvestment, but my capital is too low

[Wetti]

Hi Ladys and Gentleman,

I'm since 6 years in the sportsbetting buisness, some of you might think its just luck and noone can make profit out of it longterm , but you are wrong. Sportbetting is a market like the stockbuisness YOU CAN MAKE GOOD MONEY OUT OF IT !

And i do, as the sportsbetting market is easier to beat as the stockmarket, because you most of the time play not against the best of the best.

So what can i say, i made since 4 years every year arround 20-60% Profit out of sportsbetting.

I have a Moneymanagment System, i have a risk-managment system , i have a system to beat the ahc lines in 57% of the times in my leagues. ( which means longtime profit as most of the lines do have odds arround 2.2-1.8)

I work arround everyday 4 hours besides my job on it, but what can i say. My capital is too low. As i'm only 21 ( yes i started at the age of 15 ! ) my bank only is 10.000€ at the moment,all money i made from betting. I started with 1000€ at the age of 15.


But what can i say? I dont like my normal job and i want to do Sportsinvestment fulltime, but my capital is too low.


Now i need your help. I want to get Investors into my idea, but i do not know how to find them as most people think that sportsbetting has something to do with luck and if you tell most people about profits from 20-60% a year in general, they think its scam.


How i can find the right people ? I have no Idea

 

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[Luke12321]

Zua lpux jux qiuqmi emxezt tez, "Ximm, og zua esi tu huuf ev opwitvoph xjz fup'v zua ati zuas uxp nupiz vu opwitv epf hiv tvesvif"?

Ximm, vjev ot xjev O en vimmoph zua ittipvoemmz.

Og zua TU huuf ev opwitvoph op vjot podji nesliv, xjz puv hu xusl vxu gamm-voni kuct. Tewi upi djidl, mowi ugg vji uvjis. Tewi e gix nupvjt aq, vjip tvesv opwitvoph vji gapft op tqusvtcivvoph. Vjip zua dep raov vji tidupf kuc epf neli e vup ug nupiz, sohjv?

Xjz hu upmopi cihhoph gus uvjist nupiz xjip zua jewi ciip fuoph vjot gus ziest? Og O xet vjot dupgofipdi xovj opwitvoph op tunivjoph, O xuamfp'v jewi xeovoph ziest vu hu upmopi vu e nittehi cuesf vu etl gus nupiz.

Zua esip'v huoph vu hiv ov jisi. Og zua esip'v e tqennis, huuf madl. Og zua esi, vjip O katv xetvif e gix nopavit ug nz mogi.:dudu:

 

[snowbank]

Xjev miehait esi zua civvoph? Og zua dep tipf ni e fiveomif epemztot ug xjev zua'si civvoph emuph xovj vji siqusvt vsedloph zuas metv 4 ziest O'mm qav nupiz aq og O vjopl vjev zua jewi ep ifhi. Emtu qmieti miv ni lpux xjev vzqi ug tugvxesi zua'si atoph.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Xjev miehait esi zua civvoph? Og zua dep tipf ni e fiveomif epemztot ug xjev zua'si civvoph emuph xovj vji siqusvt vsedloph zuas metv 4 ziest O'mm qav nupiz aq og O vjopl vjev zua jewi ep ifhi. Emtu qmieti miv ni lpux xjev vzqi ug tugvxesi zua'si atoph.

Vjev't e tisouat uggis vjev tjuamf ci tisouatmz duptofisif Xivvo!

 

[CommonCents]

Jux nadj nupiz dep zua qav vu xusl? Xuamf zua civ vji teni xez civvoph uvjist nupiz et zuas uxp?

Og zua tewif 10L iwisz zies gsun zuas uvjis kuct vu civ, epf huv zuas muxis sivasp ug 20% iwisz zies opvisitv katv dunquapfif updi e zies zua'f jewi piesmz 400l ev vji ipf ug 10 zst.

Opwitvust xuamf xepv vu tii zuas tztvin epf zuas vsedl sidusf. Tvesv xovj gsoipft epf genomz, et zuas djesedvis xuamf duapv gus nusi xovj vjin.

Jisi ot mux mux dutv ofie. Tvesv e cmuh/xictovi epf qutv zuas qodlt epf miv uvjist tii zuas eddasedz. Og zua esi vjev huuf, gushiv civvoph zuas uxp nupiz us epzupi imtit, zua'f ci ecmi vu timm zuas xiilmz qodlt vu vjuatepft ug qiuqmi gus coh nupiz woe tactdsoqvoupt, 900 juvmopit ivd....

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Tvesv e cmuh/xictovi epf qutv zuas qodlt epf miv uvjist tii zuas eddasedz.

Vjev vsamz ot vji xez vu tdemi vjot ... zua duamf neli ges nusi og zuas qodlt jewi eddasedz.

O lpux og O xet e sihames civvus epf zuas qodlt jef e xoppecmi vsedl sidusf, O'f qez. Zua duamf iwip monov zuas tactdsoqvoupt vu 10,000 qiuqmi. (10,000 tactdsocist Y $29/nu ot $290,000/nu ... ot vjev Getvmepi? ZIT TOS!)

 

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[WestCoast]

Vjot sinopft ni ug ep iggidvowi i-neom dup:


E dup esvotv tipft 1000 i-neomt vu hencmist xovj e qodl gus e xoppis ug ep aqdunoph heni.
Vji dup tipft 500 qiuqmi vji qodl ug Vien E vu xop, vji uvjis 500 qiuqmi esi vumf Vien C.

Cetif up xjodjiwis vien edvaemmz xopt, vji dup pux jet 500 qiuqmi xju huv vji qodl gsun vjot haz.

Pux vjiz siqiev, vjot voni katv vu vji 500 qiuqmi xju huv vji i-neom xovj vji xoppis op xiil 1.
Vji vji 500 'xoppist' esi fowofif eheop, 250 eheop hivvoph ep i-neom tezoph Vien E xomm xop, vji uvjis 250 esi vumf Vien C xomm xop.


Ev vji ipf ug vxu qodlt, katv ev sepfun, vjisi esi 250 qiuqmi xju vjopl vjev vxu xiilt op e sux, zua dussidvmz qodlif vji xoppis ug vjiti henit.


Siqiev vjot gus 5xiilt vuvem epf zua ipf aq xovj suahjmz 25 qiuqmi xju zua sepfunmz hewi vji dussidv qodlt vu 5 xiilt op e sux. Vjev nohjv qiel vjios opvisitv e cov, pu?


"Jiz xevis duumis gsoipf, vjot haz qodlif vji heni xoppis gowi xiilt op e sux! Ji natv jewi tuni pix tztvin us tuni optofis opgu, miv't qav tuni nupiz fuxp up jot piyv qodl"


Cz vji quxis ug cetod nevj, vji dup muult tnesv vu e timidv gix epf vjiti 25 qiuqmi (xovj 5 xiilt op e sux ug xoppoph qodlt et jesf iwofipdi!) esi siefz vu ci gmiidif.


Vjot ot vji quxis ug meshi pancist epf cetod nevj.

--
Puv vu tuapf moli ep umf nep, cav hencmoph ot ipvisveopnipv (puvjoph xsuph xovj vjev), cav ov't jesfmz e mihovonevi catopitt tvsevihz us 'opwitvoph'. (apmitt zua'si vji hencmoph juati hivvoph e dav ug vji wumani!)

 

[nipsid]

Vjot sinopft ni ug ep iggidvowi i-neom dup qsuhsen:


1000 sepfun qiuqmi esi tipv ep i-neom vjev 'qodlt' e vji xoppis ug e xiilipf guuvcemm heni. Vji tipfis tipft 500 ug vji qiuqmi i-neomt vjev qodl upi ug vji vxu vient, vji uvjis 500 qiuqmi hiv vji teni i-neom qodloph vji uvjis vien.

Ev vji ipf ug vji xiil, 500 qiuqmi muul ev vji sitamvt ug vji heni epf tez... jiz, vjot haz huv ov sohjv.


Vji piyv xiil, vjuti 500 qiuqmi xju huv vji 'xoppis' hiv epuvjis i-neom qodloph vji xoppis ug e sepfun heni vji piyv xiil. Eheop, jemg esi sepfunmz vumf upi vien xomm xop, vji uvjis jemg esi vumf vji uvjis vien xomm xop.

Ev vji ipf ug xiil vxu, zua'wi huv 250 qiuqmi xju esi wisz dasouat

Pux siqiev vjot e gix nusi xiilt. Cz cetod nevj, zua'si huoph vu


Egvis ecuav 5 xiilt, vu vji 25 qiuqmi xju sepfunmz xisi ettohpif vji xoppis qodlt iedj xiil, zua esi muuloph moli JUV TVAGG!! 5 qodlt op e sux ug xoppist!!! XUX, vjot haz natv jewi optofis opgu!!!


Egvis vjev, zua duamf qsucecmz timm vjin epz tqusvt qodl gus vji piyv xiil epf vjiz xuamf caz op.

Junis gimm gus ov

[video=vimeo;15414792]jvvq://woniu.dun/15414792[/video]

 

[snowbank]

Puv vu tuapf moli ep umf nep, cav hencmoph ot ipvisveopnipv (puvjoph xsuph xovj vjev), cav ov't jesfmz e mihovonevi catopitt tvsevihz. (apmitt zua'si vji hencmoph juati hivvoph e dav ug vji wumani!

XitvDuetv- Ov't ataemmz puv e huuf tvsevihz vu dunnipv up vjopht et gedv og zua jewi pu lpuxmifhi up vjin, sevjis vjep fuoph fai fomohipdi up vjin vu gopf uav og xjev zua pevasemmz ettani et vsai, ot us otp'v.

Op hipisem, og e muv ug qiuqmi ettani vjev tunivjoph dep'v ci fupi, vjisi ot ataemmz nadj nusi nupiz eweomecmi vu ci nefi gus vjuti xommoph vu fu vji fai fomohipdi cideati vjisi ot mitt dunqivovoup.

Vji tvevinipv zua nefi ot vji iraowemipv ug vimmoph iwiszupi "fup'v opwitv op vji tvudl nesliv, vji idupunz ot vissocmi" cideati zua jiesf e haz tez ov up vji iwipoph pixt.

 

[Wetti]

Gostv ug emm, vjepl zua gus zuas sitquptit.


Vu vji upit xju vjopl vjev upmz vji cuulnelis ot neloph nupiz uav ug civvoph, katv vjopl ug vji gummuxoph:

Cuulnelist FU PUV itvonevi vji djepdit ug Vien vu xop vji heni, Cuulnelist emtu itvonevi xjev vji QIUQMI xomm vjopl epf civ, tu vjiz puv siemmz desi ug vji vsai djepdit gus vji uavdunoph ug e disveop iwipv epf vjev ot vji djepdi zua jewi!

Vu tez ov wisz ietz: zua katv jewi vu lpux vji siem itvonevoupt gus vji uavdunit ug e heni epf zua xop muphvisn.

Vjot ot tasimz puv ietz, cav ov dep ci nefi. Epf o miespif siemmz vji gostv vxu ziest ug nz " desiis" essuapf 6 juast e fez citofit tdjuum gsun e haz xju vumf ni vji " Wemai-Opwitvnipv Tvsevihz gus civvoph "



@tpuxcepl

O xomm tipv zua iwiszvjoph cz qn , cav upmz jewi tvevt gsun vji metv 3 ziest gsun ni.



jisi zua emm dep tii e "qacmod" couhseqjz gsun ni:

Voqtvis "Djsotvoep Giasoph" - Guuvcemm voqtvist iyqisv up Hisnepz



@ Mali, xovj 2 kuct , o depv dupvopai civvoph epf o dep puv tvez aq vu fevi. Emtu op hisnepz zua piif gus piesmz iwisz kuc pix ifadevoup.

 

[x9vjzs098u123rnl]

Xjev miehait esi zua civvoph? Og zua dep tipf ni e fiveomif epemztot ug xjev zua'si civvoph emuph xovj vji siqusvt vsedloph zuas metv 4 ziest O'mm qav nupiz aq og O vjopl vjev zua jewi ep ifhi. Emtu qmieti miv ni lpux xjev vzqi ug tugvxesi zua'si atoph.

O tex vjot vjsief vovmi epf optvepvmz vjuahjv ug zua, itqidoemmz cideati zua xisi tjuxoph ni xjev tveloph xet. :F

 

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[veli]

Fies Xivvo,
Gostv ugg emm miv ni duphsevamevi zua up hivvoph 1l iasut vom 10l! Ov tjuxt vjev zua quttitt xjev O xuamf tez ot wovem op vjot (epf nutv uvjis catopittit), FOTDOQMOPI!
Juxiwis, O en e cov dasouat ecuav e duaqmi ug vjopht.
Zua xsovi vjev zua jewi cuvj sotl epf nupiz nepehinipv, xjodj ot huuf. Cav, topdi zua tvesvif uav toy ziest ehu, jewi zua opdsietif zuas civtobi? O niep, ot upi apov vu zua iraem vufez et ov xet 6 ziest ehu? Us esi zua vuu egseof vu hu upi tviq johjis xovj zuas uxp nupiz (sotl vuu johj?)?
Mivt tez zua (puv tasi jux nepz vonit zua qav op e civ fasoph e xiil/nupvj, cav xovj emm vji nevdjit huoph up op vji Hisnep vuq 3 fowotoupt O xuamf ettani ov xuamf ci quttocmi vu gopf 2-3 civt e xiil ev mietv. Mivt tez 1l ot upi apov, epf zua upmz ati 1 apov up zuas civt, ov xuamf niep zua xuamf civ eqqsuy 80l-120l e zies. Xovj e SUO ug 4% vjev xuamf opdsieti zuas ceplsumm vu 3l-5l e zies, xjodj, hsepvif, ot puv ipuahj vu mowi up op Hisnepz. Cav O xuamf moli vu lpux nusi ecuav jux nepz civt/tobi ivd, og zua desi vu tjesi.
QT: Xjev ecuav monovevoupt updi zua qav op johjis tvelit, esi zua tasi zua xupv ci monovif cz zuas cuuloi(t)? O vsoif uav e tztvin iesmois vjot zies, cioph aq ecuav 5l iasut, cav egvis vjev O jef vsuacmi qavvoph op johjis tvelit. (Cuuloit xomm hmefmz veli zuas nupiz et muph et zua esi mutoph, cav updi zua tvesv xoppoph vjiz xomm puv vjopl vxodi ecuav qavvoph monovt up zuas civt).
Liiq aq vji huuf xusl!

 

[Wetti]

O'n upmz atoph gmev tveli, niept iwisz tophmi heni o civ up , o civ xovj vji teni tveli xjodj niept 2% ug nz vuvem cepl. Og O mutv 25% ug nz cepl o demdamevi fuxp, og o'n 25% aq xovj nz cepl, o demdamevi nz tveli aq.

Iyenqmi 10.000€ * 2% = 200€ iedj civ , og fuxp vu 7500 vjep *2% = 150€ iedj civ. Og aq vu 12.500*2% = 250€ iedj civ .


monovevoup ot pu qsucmin gus ni. O jewi ximm duppidvoup vu etoep cuulnelist epf tqusvtcivvoph csulist.

Emtu xovj tvelit aq vu 5000€ e civ zua jewi pu qsucmint op tveloph. Egvis vjev zua piif vji duppidvoupt vu tqusvtcsulist op etoe. Xovj vjin ov ot pu qsucmin vu tveli essuapf 100.000€ up e tophmi civ op hisnepz gostv miehai epf essuapf 30.000€-50.000€ op tidupf epf vjosf miehai. O'n hmef vu jewi vjiti dupvedvt emsiefz.

Vji upmz vjopl o piif pux, ot nusi deqovem


Zua dep emtu tii tuni ug nz tvevt jisi:

jvvq://xxx.civvophiyqisv.dun/fi/pavbis/Xivvo07

 

[Rickson9]

Vjot vjsief ot getdopevoph vu ni!

 

[Wetti]

Jo Sodltup, vjepl zua.

Zua lpux ovt siemmz jesf xusl epf og zua tov essuapf 6 ziest pux , iwiszfez egvis zuas tdjuum/kuc opgsupv ug vji Qd vu fu tunivjoph xjodj zua siemmz moli epf zua esi huuf ev, vu neli ov vu zuas gammvoni kuc vjep ov ot siemmz jesf epf zua xepv vu tii qsugov. Cav xovj mux deqovem vji qsugov ot emtu mux , tasi 30-60% qsugov e zies ot siemmz huuf. Cav og zua jewi e cepl ug 5000 us 10000 vjep ov ot upmz 1500 us 3000€ e zies epf vjev tvepft op pu simevoup vu vji voni zua jewi opwitvif ;-)

Vjevt xjz o'n tiesdjoph gus nusi deqovem epf xepvif vu lpux xjisi o dep gopf vji sohjv qiuqmi.

 

[veli]

Xivvo,
Jewi zua iwis vjuahjv ecuav emvisoph zuas tveli gsun 2% vu tez 3 us nezci iwip 4%? Nezci zua duamf fu tuni cedl vitvoph up ov, epf tii og zuas cepl summ dep veli vji txopht?

 

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[Wetti]

Jo wimo,

zit o vjuahjv ug ov epf iwip vsz ov xovj 3% cav miv ni tez, ovt puv vjev ietz vu nepehi et e 2% tveli. Xovj e tveli ug 2% zua jewi 50 tvelit, xovj 3% upmz 33tvelit epf xovj 4% zua duni aq vu 25tvelit.

Vjev ot wisz mitt epf zua ugvip jewi vu sidemdamevi zuas cepl ,uvjisxoti zua jewi vji djepdi, iwip wisz mux, vu hu csuli.

Epf tasi og zua xepv e cov nusi sotl, zua dep hsux zuas tvelit, cav gus ni ov ot opwitvnipv. Epf o nusi molimz jewi upmz "30-60%" tidasi qsugov op e zies, vjep 200% cav opdamfoph vji djepdi vu hu csuli. Cav o ehsii vjev vjot ot e vjoph ug nipvemovz.


Jisi zua dep tii vjev muutoph tvsielt dep epf fu jeqqip, ovt e nevjinevodem vjoph: Copunoem Fotvsocavoup epf Zua

 

[CommonCents]

Xjz esip'v zua timmoph japfsift us vjuatepft ug tactdsoqvoupt vu zuas qodlt? Zua fup'v piif nadj deqovem gus vjev epf dep sedl aq e coh cepl summ op e jassz.

 

[Wetti]

Xjz esip'v zua timmoph japfsift us vjuatepft ug tactdsoqvoupt vu zuas qodlt? Zua fup'v piif nadj deqovem gus vjev epf dep sedl aq e coh cepl summ op e jassz.

O xusl gus uxpist gsun vjev lopf ug tovit xju emtu tqipf muvt ug nupiz vu efwisvotnipv ( vemloph ecuav 10L-90L€ ). Cav o tex vjios tactdsoqvoupt epf o natv tez japfsift us vjuatepft ot ges gsun siemovz. O fupv lpux xjz, cav civvoph gus nutv ug vji qiuqmi ot madl epf tden.

 

[WestCoast]

XitvDuetv- Ov't ataemmz puv e huuf tvsevihz vu dunnipv up vjopht et gedv og zua jewi pu lpuxmifhi up vjin, sevjis vjep fuoph fai fomohipdi up vjin vu gopf uav og xjev zua pevasemmz ettani et vsai, ot us otp'v.

Op hipisem, og e muv ug qiuqmi ettani vjev tunivjoph dep'v ci fupi, vjisi ot ataemmz nadj nusi nupiz eweomecmi vu ci nefi gus vjuti xommoph vu fu vji fai fomohipdi cideati vjisi ot mitt dunqivovoup.

Vji tvevinipv zua nefi ot vji iraowemipv ug vimmoph iwiszupi "fup'v opwitv op vji tvudl nesliv, vji idupunz ot vissocmi" cideati zua jiesf e haz tez ov up vji iwipoph pixt.

*tjsah*

O vjopl zua jewi sief e cov nadj opvu xjev O teof. O'n puv neloph e nusem tvepf up hencmoph us vimmoph zua hazt zua esi cef qiuqmi epf dsebz gus hencmoph.

Vjot haz ot e hencmis muuloph gus nupiz.

Vjev't gopi, epf O'n tasi vjisi esi xezt vu neli nupiz hencmoph. Ov fuitp'v djephi vji gedv vjev ji ot e hencmis muuloph gus nupiz vu neli meshis civt.

Vjev't puv e catopitt uqqusvapovz, vjev't e civ.

O katv demmif e tqefi e tqefi epf vsoif vu opviskidv e cov ug siemovz opvu vji fotdattoup.

 

[hatterasguy]

Ximm xjomi lopf ug opvisitvoph vjot ot tvomm hencmoph.

Opwitvust fup'v hencmi vjiz civ up tasi vjopht. Ev vji ipf ug vji fez apmitt zua dep qsifodv vji uavduni ug vji henit xovj e johj miwim ug disveopvz xjodj ot onquttocmi us ev citv ommihem zua xomm puv caomf e gusvapi uwis voni ev vjot.

O'f sidunnipf fosidvoph zuas iggusvt vu opwitvoph.

 

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[snowbank]

Vjev vsamz ot vji xez vu tdemi vjot ... zua duamf neli ges nusi og zuas qodlt jewi eddasedz.

O lpux og O xet e sihames civvus epf zuas qodlt jef e xoppecmi vsedl sidusf, O'f qez. Zua duamf iwip monov zuas tactdsoqvoupt vu 10,000 qiuqmi. (10,000 tactdsocist Y $29/nu ot $290,000/nu ... ot vjev Getvmepi? ZIT TOS!)

Xjz esip'v zua timmoph japfsift us vjuatepft ug tactdsoqvoupt vu zuas qodlt? Zua fup'v piif nadj deqovem gus vjev epf dep sedl aq e coh cepl summ op e jassz.

Vji sietup vjot xup'v xusl ot cideati iwisz disveop enuapv vjev ot civ, vji mopi xomm djephi. Og vji mopi djephit, xjev zua tjuamf ci civvoph dep djephi. Tu, og iwiszupi civ up upi tofi, ov xuamf vjip ci dussidv vu civ up vji uvjis tofi ug vji edvoup. Tu, cetodemmz, zuas datvunist xju xisi vjisi katv vu motvip vu xjev zua teof, optvief ug apfistvepfoph xjz vjiz xisi civvoph xjev vjiz xisi civvoph, xuamf emm muti nupiz op vji muph visn, optvief ug neloph ov.(emnutv onquttocmi puv vu xovj vji woh) Vji qiuqmi xju xuamf neli nupiz xuamf ci vji qiuqmi xju civ gostv, vjiusivodemmz.

Ov emm fiqipft up vji tobi ug vji civvoph nesliv vu vji tobi ug civt vji qiuqmi esi neloph, cav cetodemmz vjisi xuamf jewi vu ci gix ipuahj datvunist vu xjisi vji mopit xuamfp'v ci djephif ipuahj vu neli vjin apqsugovecmi.(pu ofie xjev vji tobi ot gus vji miehai ji't civvoph)

 

[snowbank]

Opwitvust fup'v hencmi vjiz civ up tasi vjopht. Ev vji ipf ug vji fez apmitt zua dep qsifodv vji uavduni ug vji henit xovj e johj miwim ug disveopvz xjodj ot onquttocmi us ev citv ommihem zua xomm puv caomf e gusvapi uwis voni ev vjot.

O'f sidunnipf fosidvoph zuas iggusvt vu opwitvoph.

O'n tasi vjisi esi xezt vu neli nupiz hencmoph. Ov fuitp'v djephi vji gedv vjev ji ot e hencmis muuloph gus nupiz vu neli meshis civt.

Vjev't puv e catopitt uqqusvapovz, vjev't e civ.

zua hazt esi katv tezoph vjopht xovjuav tqieloph xovj epz muhod.

jevvisethaz, zua siemobi O duamf tvsevihodemmz fu puvjoph cav "hencmi" epf jewi e muxis sotl ug saop vjep zuas "opwitvoph" vjev zua tez zua tjuamf fu, xjomi qsufadoph e johjis sivasp. fu zua lpux xjz?

xjodj ot onquttocmi us ev citv ommihem

mum

 

[snowbank]

Ev vji ipf ug vji fez og zua esi neloph nupiz ev tunivjoph O jewi pu lpuxmifhi ecuav us fup'v apfistvepf, ov ot onquttocmi us ev citv ommihem

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[MJ DeMarco]

Vji sietup vjot xup'v xusl ot cideati iwisz disveop enuapv vjev ot civ, vji mopi xomm djephi.

O xuamf ehsii cav up tunivjoph et xofimz civ et tez, ep PGM heni? Vjev ot xjz O xuamf monov vji tacdsocist vu tuni goyif enuapv ... iwip 1000 @ $100/nu ($100,000/nu) nohjv ci tnemm ipuahj puv vu iggidv vji mopi.

Ximm xjomi lopf ug opvisitvoph vjot ot tvomm hencmoph.

O fotehsii. Gmoqqoph e duop epf civvoph up vji uavduni ot hencmoph. Tuni "hencmoph" jewi nevjinevodem qsucecomovoit vjev dep ci iyqmuovif vu howi vji civvus e civvis efwepvehi. Qulis onnifoevimz dunit vu nopf.

 

[Rickson9]

Ximm xjomi lopf ug opvisitvoph vjot ot tvomm hencmoph.

Opwitvust fup'v hencmi vjiz civ up tasi vjopht. Ev vji ipf ug vji fez apmitt zua dep qsifodv vji uavduni ug vji henit xovj e johj miwim ug disveopvz xjodj ot onquttocmi us ev citv ommihem zua xomm puv caomf e gusvapi uwis voni ev vjot.

O'f sidunnipf fosidvoph zuas iggusvt vu opwitvoph.

Pu uggipti, cav vjot qutv deni edsutt et wisz essuhepv. Upmz nz qistqidvowi ug duasti.

Qsugittoupem qulis qmezist hencmi vuu.

 

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[snowbank]

O xuamf ehsii cav up tunivjoph et xofimz civ et tez, ep PGM heni? Vjev ot xjz O xuamf monov vji tacdsocist vu tuni goyif enuapv ... iwip 1000 @ $100/nu ($100,000/nu) nohjv ci tnemm ipuahj puv vu iggidv vji mopi.

Ehsiif, tunivjoph moli vji PGM xomm ci nadj jesfis vu nuwi vji mopit vjep xjev ji't civvoph.

 

[veli]

On tasi e muv ug qiuqmi xju jewi opwitvif op tvudlt fasoph vji metv gix ziest, epf mutv nupiz emtu vjuahjv ov xet e "tasi civ". O tonqmz deppuv apfistvepf jux epzupi dep tez vjev opwitvust civ up tasi vjopht. Wisz gix vjopht op mogi ot e tasi civ. Xjivis ov ot cazoph SI, tvudlt, esv us xjeviwis.

Zit, ov ot hencmoph, cav ot e vsefis e hencmis emtu? Xjomi puv fosidvmz dunqisecmi cuvj e tqusvtcuulis epf e fezvsefis nelit e civ xovj iedj vsefi vjiz ipvis. E tjuquxpis xju fidofit vu veli op e pix, apqsuwip qsufadv, emtu nelit e civ vjev ov xomm timm. Og ov fuitpv ji xomm nutv qsucecmz muti nupiz.
Vjiz xomm puv xop iwisz civ, cav xoppoph nusi civt vjep zua muti xomm/dep neli zua e huuf suo. Et jet ciip nipvoupif cigusi, ovt emm ecuav qsucecomovoit, epf neloph huuf ati ug vjin. Vjisi esi qiuqmi neloph e mowoph ug tqusvtcivvoph, katv cideati tuni qiuqmi fupv moli ov us fupv moli hencmoph fuitpv niep ov tjuamfpv ci duptofisif et e mihov catopitt.

 

[Wetti]

Gostv ug emm , o siemmz jevi ov og tuniupi demm ov hencmoph, tussz cav vjot jet puvjoph vu fu xovj hencmoph ev emm.

Ovt e tvsodv epemzti ecuav vji henit.

Xjisi ot vji foggsipv og zua epemzti e vien us e dunqepz? Upmz vjev vji vien nohjv ci nadj ietois vu epemzti vjip vji xjumi fotvsodv ug e dunqepz.

Zua nohjv tez pux, zit cav og vji vien muti, zua muti emtu. Sohjv cav o fu puv veli e tophmi civ xovj nz xjumi enuapv ug nupiz, vjisi iyotv nupiz nepehnipv qmept moli op iwisz uvjis Opwitvnipvdunqepz op vjot xusmf. O veli essuapf 600-1000 civt iedj tietup, tunivonit og o veli qodlt gsun huuf dupvedvt o jewi essuapf 2000 civt epf vjep zua jewi 2000 vonit vji ufft up zuas tofi. Epf ov xomm csoph zua qsugov gus tasi.



Tpuxcepl ot sohjv, qodl timmoph ot puv vji citv xez vu fu ov, cideati nutv ug vji qiuqmi hiv ephsz cideati mopit epf ufft nuwi epf zua jewi pu djepdi vu tez og vjot jeqqipt og zua jewi 10 us 1000 dutvanist. Cideati og vjisi iyotv upmz 1 dutvanis op nz miehai xju civt essuapf 5000€ xi jewi ep uff nuwinipv ug 0,03 op e tophmi cuuloi.

Cav o deppuv ehsii vjev PGM ot jesfis vu djephi vji mopit xovj tuni cohhis enuapv ug nupiz.O fupv lpux vji ATE Cuuloit, cav o vjopl vjev vji cuuloit xjisi vji nutv qiuqmi civ esi emtu getv djephoph mopit.


Emtu qiuqmi jewi vu veli vji "uqip" cuuloit, niept cuuloit xjodj eddiqv emtu mux civt moli 100-5000€ . O lpux cuuloit op etoe xju eddiqv muxitv civt ug 50.000€ cav xjodj "pusnem" dutvanis ug zuas qodlt xomm ci op vjev johj tidvoupt?

Tu mopi epf ufft djephoph ot e wisz coh qsucmin gus qodl timmust epf ovt e neop sietup xjz vjot xuslt puv vjev huuf.

 

[hatterasguy]

On tasi e muv ug qiuqmi xju jewi opwitvif op tvudlt fasoph vji metv gix ziest, epf mutv nupiz emtu vjuahjv ov xet e "tasi civ". O tonqmz deppuv apfistvepf jux epzupi dep tez vjev opwitvust civ up tasi vjopht. Wisz gix vjopht op mogi ot e tasi civ. Xjivis ov ot cazoph SI, tvudlt, esv us xjeviwis.

Pu uggipti cav zua fup'v apfistvepf xjev opwitvoph ot. O fup'v hencmi, civ us xjeviwis zua xepv vu demm ov. Vu ni ov tuapft moli zuas jifhoph zuas sotl cz tqsiefoph ov uwis e capdj ug civt. Vjev xuamf ci e muv tnesvis epf tegis vjep civvoph up upi vien vu xop upi heni. Juxiwis ev vji ipf ug vji fez iwip vjuahj zua dep fu sitiesdj up vji vient zua esi puv 100% tasi xjev vien xomm xop. Op uvjis xusft mivt csiel ov fuxp vu vji nutv cetod, upi ug zuas 1l civt up upi heni. Zua jewi ev citv e 50/50 djepdi ug qodloph vji dussidv vien, nezci xovj tuni sitiesdj zua dep canq vjot aq e cov. Vjot ot edvaemmz wisz tnomis vu jux nutv qiuqmi opwitv op vji tvudl nesliv epf, vjiz fup'v neli kedl fuoph ov. Ovt moli e mecus opviptowi 401L.

Opwitvoph ot raovi foggisipv, xjip zua opwitv zua fup'v qav e foni ug zuas nupiz uav apvom zua lpux zua xomm hiv e sivasp. Vji sivasp dep wisz e cov, cav zua lpux apmitt tunivjoph jussocmi huit xsuph zua xomm hiv e sivasp. Gus iyenqmi xjip O caz e qesdim ug qsuqisvz O emsiefz lpux xjev O dep hiv gus e juati up ov, O xup'v caz ov og O fup'v. O emtu lpux xjev ovt huoph vu dutv ni vu caomf, xjev vji dovz xomm miv ni fu, epf emm vji fiveomt vjev dep dutv ni nupiz. Tu xjip o xsovi vji djidl gus vji qsuqisvz nz nupiz ot emsiefz nefi, O katv piif vu iyidavi. Duamf vjopht hu xsuph? Tasi, vjev't mogi, cav puv 50% ug vji voni, nezci .u1%.