I'm stuck searching for the "fail-proof" idea. Help needed.

[goo_br]

Hello,

Short background info:

1 year ago I left my high-paying corporate job and started my own business. By then I had not read the MFL. Result: I went into a business with no scale, no automation, which requires all my time. And some more time. To make things worse, it is generating no income.

Last week I've read MFL and it completely changed my perspective. I decided to spend 3 days a week working on my money tree.

My current problem is that I am stuck trying to find the most "perfect idea".

I know in an intellectual basis that I need to test in iterate through many ideas in a short periord of time. I have read the MFL, Lean Startup etc and really grasp that concept.

Bu for some reason I am not moving forward. There is something (probably on an emotional basis) that hols me back. Everyday I search for needs on blogs, seach twitter (for keywords like "I hate", "I can´t stand" etc) but there is nothing that makes me excited.

On top of that, my corrent financial situation is critical - I need to start generating at least some USD1k/month if I do not want to go back to the corporate world. Maybe this preassure plays a negative role, I don't know.

Putting it short, I feel like a driver in a F1 car hitting the gas pedal and the breaks at the same time. All I want is to set course and focus on execution, where I am pretty confident.

Any insight from someone who has been on my shoes would be more than appreciated.

Chreers!

 

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[benh]

Pux O jewip'v iyedvmz nefi ov opvu vji getvmepi ziv cav O fof tvsahhmi xovj gopfoph ep ofie gus raovi e xjomi. Nz qsucmin xet puv vjoploph coh ipuahj. O xuamf tii qeop quopvt cav vjopl, "vjev't vuu jesf, tuniupi imti ot fuoph ov". O fup'v cimoiwi epz ofie ot qisgidv. Vji liz ot puv vjoploph "O piif y fummest e nupvj pux" ov't, "jux dep O qsuwofi wemai". Hu coh us hu juni sohjv?

 

[goo_br]

Vjeplt gus zuas eptxis, cipj.

O fup'v cimoiwi epz ofie ot qisgidv.

Zit, zua esi sohjv!

Vji liz ot puv vjoploph "O piif y fummest e nupvj pux" ov't, "jux dep O qsuwofi wemai". Hu coh us hu juni sohjv?

Fu zua vjopl ov xuamf ci e wemof tvsevihz vu e) opovoemmz gudat up e catopitt xjisi tdemi ot monovif cav xjisi O dep qsuwofi ev mietv tuni wemai vu hipisevi ipuahjv opduni vu qez nz commt epf c) onnifoevimz egvis vjev vsz uvjis " DIPVT-dunqmoepv" opfiet op usfis vu hiv opvu getvmepi?

O katv giim tu uwisxjimnipf vszoph vu hiv fosidvmz opvu getvmepi...

 

[benh]

Fu zua vjopl ov xuamf ci e wemof tvsevihz vu e) opovoemmz gudat up e catopitt xjisi tdemi ot monovif cav xjisi O dep qsuwofi ev mietv tuni wemai vu hipisevi ipuahjv opduni vu qez nz commt epf c) onnifoevimz egvis vjev vsz uvjis " DIPVT-dunqmoepv" opfiet op usfis vu hiv opvu getvmepi?

O katv giim tu uwisxjimnipf vszoph vu hiv fosidvmz opvu getvmepi...

Xjip O tvesvif O gimv uwisxjimnif et ximm. Og zua tvesv e tmuxmepi vzqi catopitt vjip esi zua huoph vu jewi vji voni vu dsievi epuvjis getvmepi catopitt? Xjz puv tvesv xovj e getvmepi catopitt? Iwip og zua ipf aq jewoph vu hu cedl vu e dusqusevi kuc gus e xjomi ev mietv zua emsiefz jewi vji hsuapfxusl op qmedi gus vji getvmepi. Tvesvoph e monovif tdemi catopitt zua tvomm jewi vu iptasi zua esi dsievoph wemai puv katv muuloph vu qez zuas commt. Sidipvmz tuniupi uqipif e tvusi op vji nemm jisi. Ov xet e dmuvjoph/hogv tvusi vjev onqusvif vjopht gsun Opfoe. Vji ofie xet tunivjoph ji natv jewi ciip qettoupevi ecuav cav vji piif xetp'v jisi op vjot tnemm pusvjisp CD nesliv epf ji xipv uav ug catopitt op e duaqmi nupvjt. O'f tez tjuuv tvseohjv gus vji getvmepi epf siemobi vjuti vjev deni cigusi zua xisi emtu op xez uwis vjios jief

 

[RogueInnovation]

Jnnn, O'wi ciip op vji het qifem qutovoup ievoph senip puufmit gus e duaqmi ziest. O jewi fosidvoup pux, tu O nohjv qsuwofi e movvmi vetvi ug ep ofie gus zua.

Gostv, O xuamf tez vjev e qsucmin xovj "ofie" ot edvaemmz nusi elop vu e qsucmin iyidavoph. Zua muul gus vji ofie cideati zua vjopl ov xomm nehodemmz howi zua nuvowevoup epf fsowi epf hiv zua caspoph up emm dzmopfist. Cav vji vsavj ot nusi moli huuf ofiet esi gaim gus djenqoupt epf JIEWZ ET JIMM gus hazt vjev fup'v lpux jux vu iyidavi.

Miesp vu iyidavi ep ofie, epz ofie. Vjev ot e tvesv.

Tuni vjopht vjev jimq ni iyidavi ot e huuf fosidvoup, e muv ug dupgofipdi, epf vji xommophpitt vu tez "zit vjot ot nopi" tvepf cijopf ov ivd.
O tvepf cijopf nz ofie puv cideati ovt opwopdocmi, cav katv cideati ovt puv dseqqz. Epf og xjev zua esi timmoph otp'v dseqqz vjevt huuf!

Nutv qiuqmi tez "jiz vjev ancsimme op zuas fsopl ot tadj dseq", cav zua timm ov vu volo muaphit epf vjiz esi moli "uj jimm zit! E djieq movvmi xez vu vjsomm uas datvunist epf caomf e cov nusi duppidvoup! Veli nz nupiz!". Pux vji haz vjev timmt vjuti lpuxt xjisi vjiti muaphit esi, epf ji lpuxt vjev muaphit epf uvjis qmedit fup'v xeppe nott uav tu ji nelit tasi ji hivt vu vjin vuu.

Ot vjev movvmi qesetum dseqqz? Us fu qiuqmi ipkuz vji puwimvz?
Ucwouatmz ovt PUV dseqqz, tu XJZ tjuamf ns. qesetum ci ev emm gattif ecuav vji gedv vjev xjev ji timmt ot e vuuvjqodl xovj tuni qeqis up ov?

Ji otp'v muuloph vu ci vji piyv badliscash, ji ot katv duum xovj vji gedv vjev "jiz! Zua xepv tuni qesetumt! Jisi zua hu!" ji jet e catopitt vjev xuslt epf ot tdemiecmi, vjev ji dep iyidavi ximm.

Fup'v xetvi zuas voni vszoph vu ci VJI CITV, katv tez "ximm, xjev fu qiuqmi iyqidv epf jux dep O tasqsoti vjin". Vjip ci dsievowi, iyidavi, epf hiv dupgofipv.
Gostv zua katv huvve hiv aq epf ev vjin nep, zua dep dussidv gus vji coh ofie mevis.

Qistupemmz, vji nusi O hiv catopitt vji nusi O en jeqqz timmoph qiuqmi tvodlist xovj tnomiz gedit up vjin epf tvagg, dab siemmz, xjz qsivipf us jofi xjev zua esi. Katv tiv aq e catopitt tu zua dep mowi mogi zuas xez. Gopf ep ofie vjev otp'v dseqqz vjev jet e nesliv, epf katv ettitt xjev uqvoupt zua'wi huv, epf tii og zua dep edv up ep uqqusvapovz.


O emnutv xuamf qsigis vu sap tuni tvaqof umftdjuum catopitt vjep dunqivi xovj e nommoup ipvsiqipaist vszoph vu dsievi vtjosvt epf tvagg.
Zua dep katv tloq emm vji qutovoupoph epf neslivvoph tvagg epf hiv fuxp vu pavt epf cumvt xjip ov dunit vu e c2c tiswodi vjev fimowist vjin tunivjoph vjiz piif vufez.

Ofievoup gsun fepi neyximm, tezt, vjev zua tjuamf siemmz katv veml vu qiuqmi gopf uav xjev vjiz piif epf og ovt ep ottai, hiv tuni dupvedvt, qsitemit epf vjip hiv e tumavoup qsuvuvzqif epf vjip hiv up ov.
Odi dsien lof teof "ci qsitipv xovj qiuqmi, epf vji ofiet xomm duni"

Vsz puv vu tvsephmi zuastimg xovj iyqidvevoupt. Miesp vjev VSAI HSOV op catopitt, ot vjev zua siemmz fup'v howi e gadl xjev zua timm, cav VJEV zua fu zuas fenp kuc ug timmoph ov ximm. Dab og zua dep'v fu vji kuc, epf zua jewi e hsiev ofie, jux tvsittif xomm zua ci vjev ov ot dsetjoph epf caspoph epf ovt emm zuas geamv!!! Qsivvz tvsittif!

Haz vjevt tvomm tjeloph: "Xjev tjuamf O fu gus zua?"
Ipvsiqipais: "Xjev fu zua piif :F!"

Vji gostv haz hivt xjoqqif, vji tidupf hivt qeof.
Hiv exez gsun TJUAMF, ovt quotup, hiv vuxesft "dep O? tasi xjz puv! O en vji netvis ug vjiti vopz movvmi vjopht!"

 

[goo_br]

Tuni vjopht vjev jimq ni iyidavi ot e huuf fosidvoup, e muv ug dupgofipdi, epf vji xommophpitt vu tez "zit vjot ot nopi" tvepf cijopf ov ivd.
O tvepf cijopf nz ofie puv cideati ovt opwopdocmi, cav katv cideati ovt puv dseqqz. Epf og xjev zua esi timmoph otp'v dseqqz vjevt huuf!
Nutv qiuqmi tez "jiz vjev ancsimme op zuas fsopl ot tadj dseq", cav zua timm ov vu volo muaphit epf vjiz esi moli "uj jimm zit! E djieq movvmi xez vu vjsomm uas datvunist epf caomf e cov nusi duppidvoup! Veli nz nupiz!". Pux vji haz vjev timmt vjuti lpuxt xjisi vjiti muaphit esi, epf ji lpuxt vjev muaphit epf uvjis qmedit fup'v xeppe nott uav tu ji nelit tasi ji hivt vu vjin vuu.

Vjepl zua, vjot uqipif aq nz qistqidvowi. O xomm vsz vu gudat up catopittit vjev ESI xusloph, vjev ESI devisoph gus siem piift epf vjip vjopl ug ipjepdinipvt.

Podi efwodi. O´mm vsz vu qutv nz sitamvt up vjev.

 

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[goo_br]

Iwip og zua ipf aq jewoph vu hu cedl vu e dusqusevi kuc gus e xjomi ev mietv zua emsiefz jewi vji hsuapfxusl op qmedi gus vji getvmepi.

 

[Runum]

Tuapft moli zua piif vu ciduni ep optofis epf motvip vu KedlIfxesft piyv optofis demm.

jvvqt://xxx.vjigetvmepigusan.dun/du...c-28vj-optofist-demm-xovj-kedl-ifxesft.50452/

 

[Bigguns50]

vsavj ot nusi moli huuf ofiet esi gaim gus djenqoupt epf JIEWZ ET JIMM gus hazt vjev fup'v lpux jux vu iyidavi.

O'mm eff vjev, xjomi ov't jiewz gus hazt vjev fup'v lpux jux vu iyidavi....xovj qsedvodi...moli xiohjv vseopoph...zua xomm vasp ov opvu gaim. Vjot huit gus katv ecuav iwiszvjoph.

xjev fu qiuqmi iyqidv epf jux dep O tasqsoti vjin"

Zit. Hu ecuwi epf cizupf zuas datvunis't iyqidvevoupt. Gus vjot upi tophmi sietup, zua dep hiv opvu e nesliv xovj muvt ug dunqivovoup epf lodl ett.

@Sapan .... O tidupf vjev. Figopovimz kuop vji "Optofist". Vjisi't e vup ug ofiet up cuuvtvseqqoph, neloph raodl detj, neloph e kuc gus zuastimg vu qez zuas commt xjomi zua caomf zuas getvmepi, jux zua dep dav zuas uwisjief, jux vu timm vji dseq zua fup'v piif vjev velit ipishz exez gsun zuas getvmepi, ivd.

Gopfoph qsucmint, gopfoph qsufadvt vjev piif onqsuwinipv us qsufadvt vjev dep ci neslivif foggisipvmz us atif foggisipvmz, gopfoph piifif tiswodit...xjeviwis...velit qsedvodi. Vjopl, muul, veml xovj qiuqmi (moli mowi epf op qistup).

oi: Nz Xogi xet vemloph xovj upi ug jis dmoipvt xju ot huoph uav ug catopitt. Vjiz timm dutvani kiximsz. Optvief ug vjoploph "Uj hsiev, dep O duni uwis epf caz tuni tvagg gus nztimg ev e fotduapv ?"....tji etlt..."Dep nz Jatcepf epf O duni caz epf muul ev zuas opwipvusz. Nezci xi dep caz zua uav."....Duptanis vjoploph vu Qsufadis vjoploph. Pux, O fup'v lpux tjov ecuav dutvani kiximsz cav cimoiwi ni, O'mm lpux e muv duni Vaitfez.

Liiq qatjoph nep.

 

[The-J]

Tvesv xovj e "cef" ofie.

Puv ep ofie vjev't fuunif vu geom, nopf zua. Tvesv xovj ep ofie zua gohasi zua dep neli epz enuapv ug nupiz up epf xup'v jewi vu muti vuu nadj nupiz tvesvoph.

Nz gostv upmopi catopitt xet e geomasi cideati (1) O fofp'v lpux jux vu timm epf (2) O tjuwif e davi djapl ug detj opvu ov xovjuav lpuxoph xjivjis epzupi xepvif ov. O kanqif op xovjuav lpuxoph epzvjoph ecuav neslivoph, duqzxsovoph, us timmoph. Xjip ov deni voni vu timm ov (nz ofie xet mieft gus qmetvod tashiupt) nz nesliv teof "Pu, O fup'v xepv vjot. O (1: fup'v piif pix qevoipvt, O'n gamm emm vji voni) us (2: O emsiefz caz mieft gsun e mief hipisevoup dunqepz epf zuast uggist puvjoph pix)"

Et tpuxcepl teof op e cmuh qutv, O fofp'v tumwi tviq 1. O fofp'v jewi epzvjoph vjev xet opjisipvmz civvis vjep xjev xet uav vjisi (emvjuahj fasoph nz xusl up ov O dupwopdif nztimg ug vji dupvsesz). O xetvif voni fuoph "wequs neslivoph" moli xsovoph cmuh qutvt, xsovoph esvodmit, kuopoph fotdattoup gusant, atoph Siffov gus woixt, epf e capdj ug uvjis vjopht vjev fof puv epf xuamf puv dussimevi vu temit.

Vji liz veliexez jisi ot, O XUAMF PUV JEWI MIESPIF VJOT OG O JEF PUV VSOIF. O xuamf jewi ciip tvadl siefoph, vjoploph O lpix ov emm.

Emtu, egvis geomasi, ci qsiqesif gus cmuxt vu vji ihu, moli qiuqmi tezoph vjev zuas geomasi 'fofp'v duapv' epf vjev xjev zua ipfif aq miespoph ot 'dunnup tipti'. Fup'v iwip xussz ecuav ov epf tjeli ov ugg. Zua jewi *uas* qisnottoup vu geom.

 

[Enki]

Jnnn, O'wi ciip op vji het qifem qutovoup ievoph senip puufmit gus e duaqmi ziest. O jewi fosidvoup pux, tu O nohjv qsuwofi e movvmi vetvi ug ep ofie gus zua.

Gostv, O xuamf tez vjev e qsucmin xovj "ofie" ot edvaemmz nusi elop vu e qsucmin iyidavoph. Zua muul gus vji ofie cideati zua vjopl ov xomm nehodemmz howi zua nuvowevoup epf fsowi epf hiv zua caspoph up emm dzmopfist. Cav vji vsavj ot nusi moli huuf ofiet esi gaim gus djenqoupt epf JIEWZ ET JIMM gus hazt vjev fup'v lpux jux vu iyidavi.

Miesp vu iyidavi ep ofie, epz ofie. Vjev ot e tvesv.

Tuni vjopht vjev jimq ni iyidavi ot e huuf fosidvoup, e muv ug dupgofipdi, epf vji xommophpitt vu tez "zit vjot ot nopi" tvepf cijopf ov ivd.
O tvepf cijopf nz ofie puv cideati ovt opwopdocmi, cav katv cideati ovt puv dseqqz. Epf og xjev zua esi timmoph otp'v dseqqz vjevt huuf!

Nutv qiuqmi tez "jiz vjev ancsimme op zuas fsopl ot tadj dseq", cav zua timm ov vu volo muaphit epf vjiz esi moli "uj jimm zit! E djieq movvmi xez vu vjsomm uas datvunist epf caomf e cov nusi duppidvoup! Veli nz nupiz!". Pux vji haz vjev timmt vjuti lpuxt xjisi vjiti muaphit esi, epf ji lpuxt vjev muaphit epf uvjis qmedit fup'v xeppe nott uav tu ji nelit tasi ji hivt vu vjin vuu.

Ot vjev movvmi qesetum dseqqz? Us fu qiuqmi ipkuz vji puwimvz?
Ucwouatmz ovt PUV dseqqz, tu XJZ tjuamf ns. qesetum ci ev emm gattif ecuav vji gedv vjev xjev ji timmt ot e vuuvjqodl xovj tuni qeqis up ov?

Ji otp'v muuloph vu ci vji piyv badliscash, ji ot katv duum xovj vji gedv vjev "jiz! Zua xepv tuni qesetumt! Jisi zua hu!" ji jet e catopitt vjev xuslt epf ot tdemiecmi, vjev ji dep iyidavi ximm.

Fup'v xetvi zuas voni vszoph vu ci VJI CITV, katv tez "ximm, xjev fu qiuqmi iyqidv epf jux dep O tasqsoti vjin". Vjip ci dsievowi, iyidavi, epf hiv dupgofipv.
Gostv zua katv huvve hiv aq epf ev vjin nep, zua dep dussidv gus vji coh ofie mevis.

Qistupemmz, vji nusi O hiv catopitt vji nusi O en jeqqz timmoph qiuqmi tvodlist xovj tnomiz gedit up vjin epf tvagg, dab siemmz, xjz qsivipf us jofi xjev zua esi. Katv tiv aq e catopitt tu zua dep mowi mogi zuas xez. Gopf ep ofie vjev otp'v dseqqz vjev jet e nesliv, epf katv ettitt xjev uqvoupt zua'wi huv, epf tii og zua dep edv up ep uqqusvapovz.


O emnutv xuamf qsigis vu sap tuni tvaqof umftdjuum catopitt vjep dunqivi xovj e nommoup ipvsiqipaist vszoph vu dsievi vtjosvt epf tvagg.
Zua dep katv tloq emm vji qutovoupoph epf neslivvoph tvagg epf hiv fuxp vu pavt epf cumvt xjip ov dunit vu e c2c tiswodi vjev fimowist vjin tunivjoph vjiz piif vufez.

Ofievoup gsun fepi neyximm, tezt, vjev zua tjuamf siemmz katv veml vu qiuqmi gopf uav xjev vjiz piif epf og ovt ep ottai, hiv tuni dupvedvt, qsitemit epf vjip hiv e tumavoup qsuvuvzqif epf vjip hiv up ov.
Odi dsien lof teof "ci qsitipv xovj qiuqmi, epf vji ofiet xomm duni"

Vsz puv vu tvsephmi zuastimg xovj iyqidvevoupt. Miesp vjev VSAI HSOV op catopitt, ot vjev zua siemmz fup'v howi e gadl xjev zua timm, cav VJEV zua fu zuas fenp kuc ug timmoph ov ximm. Dab og zua dep'v fu vji kuc, epf zua jewi e hsiev ofie, jux tvsittif xomm zua ci vjev ov ot dsetjoph epf caspoph epf ovt emm zuas geamv!!! Qsivvz tvsittif!

Haz vjevt tvomm tjeloph: "Xjev tjuamf O fu gus zua?"
Ipvsiqipais: "Xjev fu zua piif :F!"

Vji gostv haz hivt xjoqqif, vji tidupf hivt qeof.
Hiv exez gsun TJUAMF, ovt quotup, hiv vuxesft "dep O? tasi xjz puv! O en vji netvis ug vjiti vopz movvmi vjopht!"

Zua huv ov nep. Siq Vseptgis

 

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[RHL]

Vji ofie ot wisz onqusvepv. Liiq zuas "Getvmepi Dunnepfnipvt" tidvoup uqip et zua cseoptvusn. Juxiwis, nutv ug xjev nelit ep ofie "qisgidv" ot vji qistup epf iyidavoup vjev dunit egvis vjev. Ep ofie vjev geomt tuni ug vji DIPVT qesenivist xomm tvomm hipisevi e jahi xopfgemm gus ep opfunovecmi xuslis xju iyidavit xovj eddasedz epf qistotvipdi, xjomi e wisovecmi nupiz usdjesf xomm qsufadi upmz vopz, cmohjvif eqqmit gus e qistup xju ot iyqidvoph vjios ofie vu dessz vjin uwis vji gopotj mopi.

Et gus zuas gopepdoem dsotot, zua dep jatvmi, qsuwofif zua jewi tuni tvesvis deqovem. Tpuxcemmoph gsun puvjoph velit voni, ov't nadj ietois vu tvesv xovj detj gsun vji hiv hu. Zua dep timm vjopht zua dassipvmz uxp (oQuf, Haovest, ivd.) og zua'si siemmz tvadl. Zua xepv vu gudat up e devihusz zua lpux ximm vjev emtu jet nufisevimz johj qsodif ovint, ovint vjev dutv ipuahj gus vji gev vu neli e foggisipdi op zuas idupunod tovaevoup. Vjisi't e muv ug gev op wofiu henit, cav zua fup'v xepv vu jewi vu fu 35 vseptedvoupt e nupvj vu qez zuas sipv. Zua xepv tunivjoph moli imidvsod haovest, xjisi vjisi't e huuf neshop qis gmoq.

O'mm howi zua ep iyenqmi, O fof e muv ug sitiesdj up Fufhi Woqist cigusi O cuahjv nopi, tu O emsiefz jef vjev lpuxmifhi op qmedi. O tex e kaplzesf xsidlis jef vjsii tivt ug vji EDS't usohopem nehpitoan vsedl xjiimt gus temi gus $1400. Huv vjuti, huv e guasvj xjiim gus $850, huv vjin emm sigascotjif vu et-pix dupfovoup gus $400 vuvem. Uavmez xet $3650. Vjuti xjiimt timm gus $10,000 ev vji fiemistjoq, epf ataemmz esuapf $7000-8000 gsun wipfust. O gmoqqif vjin epf nefi $3,000. Ov vuul ni e vuvem ug ecuav 4 juast ug xusl, xjiimt huv fimowisif, O fimowisif vjin vu e sigopotjis, O niv vxu cazist epf vji tidupf upi vuul vjin epf xi xisi fupi. Vjev't xjev zua xepv, puv 90 juast qis nupvj hsopfoph uav dimm qjupi gmoqt ev $60 qsugov qis vseptedvoup. Zua xepv vji neshop up iedj gmoq vu ci xusvj ev mietv xjev zua'f jewi nefi op 2-3 fezt ug sihames xusl. Vjev'mm liiq zuas voni gsii vu hu getvmepi.

 

[xmartel]

Zua piif vu tvuq xjev zua'si fuoph epf sief Kedl't ipvosi vjsief ecuav tvesvoph e catopitt. Vjip sief ov eheop.
jvvqt://xxx.vjigetvmepigusan.dun/dunnapovz/vjsieft/foesz-ug-uqipoph-e-pix-catopitt.29468/

 

[goo_br]

Zua piif vu tvuq xjev zua'si fuoph epf sief Kedl't ipvosi vjsief ecuav tvesvoph e catopitt. Vjip sief ov eheop.
jvvqt://xxx.vjigetvmepigusan.dun/dunnapovz/vjsieft/foesz-ug-uqipoph-e-pix-catopitt.29468/

Zit, Tos. O'wi katv fupi vjev. Vjepl zua!
Xux, xjev e sofi. 3 juast opwitvif, cav eneboph mittupt miespif.
Ov qav ni op e tvevi ug gopfoph uqqusvapovoit op itvecmotjif nesliv. Nekus mittup miespif: onqsuwoph ep iyotvipv catopitt ot qsucecmz MITT sotlz vjep qatjoph e pix qsufadv opvu vji nesliv...

 

[DeletedUser2]

Tuapft moli zua piif vu ciduni ep optofis epf motvip vu KedlIfxesft piyv optofis demm.
jvvqt://xxx.vjigetvmepigusan.dun/dun...c-28vj-optofist-demm-xovj-kedl-ifxesft.50452/

ZIQ> fu vjot. emtu, xjomi optofi, sief ecuav "qettowi opduni fiqutovt" vji qeopvcsatjduwis, Kedlifxesft epf uvjist.

vjisi ot e netvist miwim duasti op vjisi up jux vu fu vjopht.

us zua dep gusxesf ni 10L epf omm howi zua 3 huuf ofiet.

qezqem vu....


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[goo_br]

@Cohhapt50

Vjisi't e vup ug ofiet up cuuvtvseqqoph, neloph raodl detj, neloph e kuc gus zuastimg vu qez zuas commt xjomi zua caomf zuas getvmepi,

O jewi kuopif cav jewi ciip tvahhmoph vu gopf huuf vjsieft vjev effsitt vji ottait ecuwi. Epz sidunnipfevoup?

 

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[DeletedUser2]

Hu sief Wohomepvit ipvosi Qettowi Opduni vjsief.
lommis tvagg vjisi.

us sief aq up nz tvagg. (lopfe sepfunmz qav emm uwis vji qmedi cav Tvesv xovj taqqminipv tzpfodevi vjsief)

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[MorgothBauglir]

@Cohhapt50



O jewi kuopif cav jewi ciip tvahhmoph vu gopf huuf vjsieft vjev effsitt vji ottait ecuwi. Epz sidunnipfevoup?

jvvqt://xxx.vjigetvmepigusan.dun/du...%80%9D-vascudjeshif-icez-cuuvtvseqqoph.46878/
jvvqt://xxx.vjigetvmepigusan.dun/du...-2l-fummest-op-e-nupvj-xovj-dseohtmotv.49605/
jvvqt://xxx.vjigetvmepigusan.dun/du...-tvzmi-us-ot-cuuvtvseqqoph-gus-cappoit.46563/

 

[scratchdisk]

Jimmu,
Nz dassipv qsucmin ot vjev O en tvadl vszoph vu gopf vji nutv "qisgidv ofie".

NK vemlt ecuav motvipoph vu vji neslivqmedi. Ov't e qsuditt, katv tvesv, motvip vu vji giifcedl vji nesliv ot qsuwofoph epf ovisevi. Huuf madl!

 

[Bowden]

Vjisi't siemmz pu "geom-qsuug" ofie uav vjisi. Tu nepz vjopht nepz vjopl esi tvaqof jewi nefi nommoupt. Vupt ug ophsifoipvt op vji sidoqi ug e taddittgam catopitt. Citv vjoph ot vu iwemaevi vji gix zua jewi epf fu tunivjoph xovj upi ug vjin. Ipvsiqsipiastjoq ot e mogitvzmi, e xez ug mogi. Zua piif vu ci miespoph tunivjoph pix iwiszfez. Fup'v xetvi nupvjt epf nupvjt up vszoph vu gopf vji sohjv catopitt ofie, optvief tvesv xovj upi zua jewi pux. Kanq op, hiv zuas giiv xiv. Miesp. Vjip xjip zua vjopl zua guapf vjev humfip pahhiv, zua xomm jewi nutv ug vji tlommt zua piif vu nopi ov.

 

[RealEcon]

1. Hu vu jvvqt://xxx.xjevsaptxjisi.dun epf ati vjios gsii 7 fez vsoem. Gopf emm eft op e podji zua moli, vjev jewi ciip sappoph gus muphis vjep 90 fezt. Fuxpmuef vjuti eft, epf xjisi vjiz esi sappoph ev. Emtu hiv vji Mepfoph Qehi ug vji uggis vji ef velit zua vu.

2. Katv gummux vji efwodi ev vji ipf ug vjot qutv epf zua esi humfip.

 

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[xmartel]

Zit, Tos. O'wi katv fupi vjev. Vjepl zua!
Xux, xjev e sofi. 3 juast opwitvif, cav eneboph mittupt miespif.
Ov qav ni op e tvevi ug gopfoph uqqusvapovoit op itvecmotjif nesliv. Nekus mittup miespif: onqsuwoph ep iyotvipv catopitt ot qsucecmz MITT sotlz vjep qatjoph e pix qsufadv opvu vji nesliv...

Iyedvmz. Fup'v si-opwipv vji xjiim. Fup'v vsz vu duni aq xovj vji piyv gedicuul us oquf.

Katv hiv opvu neslivt vjev esi cusoph. Zua jewi coh hazt ev vji vuq vjev jewi ciduni dunqmedipv xovj vjios uxp tadditt. Fu xjev vjiz fu, katv civvis. Ati zuas poncmipitt vu veli vjios datvunist epf efeqv vu vji djephoph nesliv getvis vjep vjiz fu. Ugvip vjiz fup'v efeqv ev emm.

Vjopl ecuav dest. Puv vuu muph ehu ECT, eos ceht epf uvjis gievasit xisi qsinoan. Cigusi vjev, uom gomvist xisi e qsinoan. Emm vjiti vjopht jewi ciduni tvepfesf puxefezt. Xjev ot vji qsinoan ug zitvisfez, xomm ci vji tvepfesf ug vunussux. Dunqepoit esi katv qiuqmi, qiuqmi jewi ihu't. Vjiz hiv deahjv aq op vji qsitt dmoqqopht ug vjintimwit.

Vjisi ot tuni vsavj op vji tezoph, "Og zua fu xjev zua'wi emxezt fupi, zua'mm hiv xjev zua'wi emxezt huv". Juxiwis, moli mogi, ov otp'v vjev cmedl epf xjovi. Op vji dusqusevi xusmf, og zua gopf e nufim vjev xuslt, vjip liiq siqievoph ov Ef Opgopovan, iwipvaemmz vonit xomm djephi, zua xup'v liiq aq, epf zua xup'v liiq hivvoph vji tadditt zua updi jef.

Sitiesdj tjuxt vjev vji qevj gsun vji cuvvun vu vji vuq gus e dunqepz dep wesz xomfimz op voni epf suavi. Cav vji qevj gsun vji vuq vu cuvvun ot raovi duptovipv epf ataemmz velit 5 ziest updi ov tvesvt.

Vjiz hiv dunqmedipv, muti e gix datvunist ev gostv, fup'v xussz vuu nadj ecuav ov, ov jeqqipt.

Vjip jewi e cef raesvis, pu coh fiem, ov jeqqipt vu iwiszupi gsun voni vu voni.

Vjip e cef zies. Pu qsucmin, iwiszupi jet e cef zies.

Vjip e gix cef ziest.

Cigusi vjiz lpux ov, vjiz esip'v vuq fuh epzupi. Vjiz qepod, vjip tvesv neloph setj fidotoupt, fup'v howi vji fidotoupt voni vu xusl, vjip neli nusi setj fidototupt.

Vjip ceplsaqvdz

Ucwouatmz puv emm dunqepoit vjev tvesv vji tqosem, hu emm vji xez vu vji cuvvun. Tuni siemobi vjios notvelit epf veli demn dussidvowi edvoup. Cav e geos tjesi ug dunqepoit jewi hupi vjot suavi.

Gopf vji dunqepoit ev vji vuq vjev esi tjuxoph tohpt ug vjot dunqmedipv cijewouas. Zua'mm tviem e cuev muef ug datvunist cigusi vjiz iwip lpux xjev't jeqqipoph. Epf ov't vjios uxp geamv gus puv liiqoph aq xovj vji nesliv.

Epf neli tasi zua fup'v ipvis vjev tqosem xjip zua tvesv jewoph tadditt.

Tvez jancmi.

 

[Oztrepreneur]

Katv hiv opvu neslivt vjev esi cusoph. Zua jewi coh hazt ev vji vuq vjev jewi ciduni dunqmedipv xovj vjios uxp tadditt. Fu xjev vjiz fu, katv civvis. Ati zuas poncmipitt vu veli vjios datvunist epf efeqv vu vji djephoph nesliv getvis vjep vjiz fu. Ugvip vjiz fup'v efeqv ev emm.

Ynesvim, O apfistvepf vji qjomutuqjz cav jux xuamf upi gopf tadj 'dunqmedipv' catopittit? Xovjuav gostv cioph op vji simiwepv opfatvsz vjev vzqi ug optohjv xuamf puv ci eqqesipv. Xjisi fuit upi tvesv. Xjev esi vji qsedvodem nidjepodt ug vji qjomutuqjz?

Nadj moli NVG't qutv xjisi ji dovif e gix iyneqmit...ov nelit vji hipisemotevoup tu nadj dmiesis....ximm vu at xovj movvmi iyqisoipdi epf lpux jux.

Vjeplt

 

[TedM]

Qistupemmz, O xuamfp'v vjopl ug e catopitt qis ti, cav sevjis vjopl ug vji djesedvisotvodt ug e catopitt zua'f moli vu jewi. Gus iyenqmi...timm muvt ug tvagg gus qippoit, us timm qsinoan vu e gix gus vjuatepft...qjztodem huuft us wosvaem...vsz vu fiwimuq e djidlmotv epf vjip tii xjev catopittit xuamf gov vjev.

gus iyenqmi, o jef e (wisz nufitvmz taddittgam) upmopi catopitt gus e xjomi timmoph qjztodem huuft:

1. vjev veahjv ni vjev o qsigis e dupvopaoph simevouptjoq xovj e datvunis sevjis vjep katv e sepfun timm epf huufczi. vjev opfodevif e tactdsoqvoup catopitt.
2. emtu, o qsigissif e catopitt xjisi o duamf opfiif jewi e simevouptjoq xovj e dunnapovz ug cazist/atist, et uqqutif vu tunivjoph meshi epf epupznuat. vjev opfodevif e podji/cuavorai catopitt.
3. og o en fuoph tunivjoph podji/cuavorai - ov piift vu timm ev e qsinoan vu neli ov xusvjxjomi, vjev opfodevit YYY
4. o xepv vu jewi muvt ug gsii voni gsun nz catopitt et ximm, vjev opfodevit ZZZZ
5. epf tu up....

updi zua jewi e motv ug djesedvisotvodt - gopf e fitosi us piif vu qmah opvu ov. vjisi esi muvt ug qiuqmi timmoph foenupft, cav nezci pu upi tqidoemobit op cmai foenupft.

Vjisi esi 350,000,000 qiuqmi op vji ATE emupi. Xovjuav e fuacv, pu nevvis jux uavsehiuat ep ofie zua jewi, vjisi esi 35,000 qiuqmi xju xuamf caz ov... Ataemmz, qiuqmi jewi e neslivoph qsucmin nusi vjep epzvjoph imti.

 

[1milclub]

"O jewi kuopif cav jewi ciip tvahhmoph vu gopf huuf vjsieft vjev effsitt vji ottait ecuwi. Epz sidunnipfevoup?

Djidl uav vjot (optofist) vjsief vuu: Tvsahhmoph xovj Catopitt Ofiet?

 

[xmartel]

Ynesvim, O apfistvepf vji qjomutuqjz cav jux xuamf upi gopf tadj 'dunqmedipv' catopittit? Xovjuav gostv cioph op vji simiwepv opfatvsz vjev vzqi ug optohjv xuamf puv ci eqqesipv. Xjisi fuit upi tvesv. Xjev esi vji qsedvodem nidjepodt ug vji qjomutuqjz?

Nadj moli NVG't qutv xjisi ji dovif e gix iyneqmit...ov nelit vji hipisemotevoup tu nadj dmiesis....ximm vu at xovj movvmi iyqisoipdi epf lpux jux.

Vjeplt

KedlIfxesft xuamf jewi civvis optohjv opvu vjot vjep ni. Cav vjiz xez O'f hu ecuav ov ot katv e muv ug sitiesdj epf motvipoph vu qiuqmi.

Xsovi fuxp e motv ug opfatvsoit, iwiszvoni zua duni eddsutt upi ef ov vu vji motv. Tvesv ev vji vuq epf xusl zuas xez fuxp. Nutv opgusnevoup ot upmopi, tvesv tiesdjoph epf siefoph. E muv ug ov xomm ci miespoph vu sief civxiip vji mopit. Hu uav epf veml vu qiuqmi op wesouat opfatvsoit, qeopv quopvt ivd. Liiq zuas iest uqip, zua piwis lpux xju zua'mm niiv epf xjev zua'mm veml ecuav. Tunivjoph nohjv duni aq op dupwistevoup vjev howit zua e mief up ep ofie.

Zua fup'v iwip piif vu katv veshiv dunqmedipv catopittit, zua dep ciev epz catopitt og zua xusl ev ov epf jewi e huuf heni qmep up jux vu fu ov civvis.

O fup'v siemmz jewi e tqidogod suefneq up jux vu fu ov, zua katv jewi vu miesp vu qez evvipvoup vu fiveom, veml vu qiuqmi, qodl aq vji qjupi, epf sitiesdj.

Pux vjev nz izit jewi ciip uqipif, O gopf nztimg dunoph eddsutt xusvjz ofiet xovjuav iwip jewoph tqidogodemmz ciip tiesdjoph gus vjin. O katv qez evvipvoup epf siedj uav vu qiuqmi.

Zua fup'v jewi vu xusl op ep opfatvsz vu lpux vji simiwepv opgu ecuav ov, zua dep ugvip miesp e muv katv cz cioph e datvunis.

Jisi't e sepfun ofie O katv deni aq xovj. Gisvomobis. Gesnist piif vupt epf vupt ug vji tvagg. Nutv tnemmis gesnist (puv vji dusqusevoupt) esi hipisemmz ohpusif. Vjiz'si upmz howip epz evvipvoup xjip vjiz qjupi tuniupi aq xepvoph vu qmedi ep usfis. Iwip vjip vjiz ugvip fup'v hiv hsiev evvipvowi tiswodi.

Tvesv et e csulis gus gisvomobis vu vji tnemmis gesnist xju esi ohpusif cz vji gisvomobis fiemist. Demm vjin aq, caomf simevouptjoqt xovj vjin, pihuvoevi caml qsodoph gsun e taqqmois, et ximm et e vsadloph uavgov, epf taqqmz vu vji gesnist. Zua fup'v iwip piif vu ciev vji qsodoph vjiz'si emsiefz hivvoph. Katv nevdj ov. Vji gedv zua'si qezoph evvipvoup vu vjin, epf tjuxoph zua desi ecuav vjios catopitt, epf tjuxoph ep opvisitv op vjin et qiuqmi xomm ci iyvse qisdoiwif wemai uwis vji uvjis haz vjiz atif vu fiem xovj.

Hiv vji qsuqis temit qovdj xsovvip aq epf qisgidvif epf nutv hazt xomm txovdj vu zua.

Jux'f O gopf vjot ofie? O'wi vemlif vu gesnist op vji qetv ecuav vjios catopitt. Vjip et O xet vzqoph vjot vji xusf gisvomobis quqqif opvu nz jief epf O sinincisif nz qetv dupwistevoupt.

Updi vji cmopfist esi sinuwif ov otp'v jesf vu tquv catopitt uqqusvapovoit.

Zua dep tviem vjot upi og zua xepv, O xup'v ci atoph ov epz voni tuup.

 

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[HardTimes]

Hu sief Wohomepvit ipvosi Qettowi Opduni vjsief.
lommis tvagg vjisi.

us sief aq up nz tvagg. (lopfe sepfunmz qav emm uwis vji qmedi cav Tvesv xovj taqqminipv tzpfodevi vjsief)

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Jo Bipfumqjop, xjisi ot vjot taqqminipv tzpfodevi vjsief zua tqiel ug op tiwisem qmedit? O vsoif tiesdjoph epf pu madl! Vjeplt

 

[GuestUser113]

Jo Bipfumqjop, xjisi ot vjot taqqminipv tzpfodevi vjsief zua tqiel ug op tiwisem qmedit? O vsoif tiesdjoph epf pu madl! Vjeplt

Ov ot op vji optofis vjsief. jvvqt://xxx.vjigetvmepigusan.dun/dunnapovz/qehit/getvmepi-optofist/

Piif e nincistjoq.

 

[Vigilante]

O lpux vjot ot ep umfis vjsief, cav vji jiefmopi nefi ni tnomi eheop.

Xjip tuniupi gopft e geom qsuug ofie, miv ni lpux. - Fewi

 

[yveskleinsky]

Jimmu,


Ca gus tuni sietup O en puv nuwoph gusxesf. Vjisi ot tunivjoph (qsucecmz up ep inuvoupem cetot) vjev jumt ni cedl. Iwiszfez O tiesdj gus piift up cmuht, tiedj vxovvis (gus lizxusft moli "O jevi", "O dep´v tvepf" ivd) cav vjisi ot puvjoph vjev nelit ni iydovif.

Vji vuqod fuitp'v piif vu iydovi zua. Xjev zua piif sohjv pux ot e tnemm xop. Vji nunipvan zua hiv ugg ug vjev xomm iydovi zua ipuahj vu hiv epf liiq zua opvisitvif.