Immigration?

[LaughedAt]

I have created this thread to explain my situation and also to discuss immigration in general!
I was born and raised in Israel, and without going into too much political details let's just say that I witnessed more wars in my 19 years on Earth than anyone can handle and it's taken its toll on me, no matter how hard I try to be happy, there's always something around that causes me depression, I consider myself to be a very positive person but lately things have gotten very ugly, last year I "escaped" to Canada & the US for one month and it felt like heaven spending time in such a laid-back environment, so lately I've been thinking about leaving my country for the sake my own well-being and happiness, and as MJ said it's good to make geographical changes to supplement your own vision, unfortunately I'm left with a very hard dilemma where I have to choose between leaving my home country and being thousands of miles away from parents and friends or staying in my unsupportive environment and maybe try to change the way I feel about my country (eventhough it's highly unlikely)!
I would like to hear your thoughts and also to hear from people who live away from their birthplace and how easy it was to adjust and fit in!
Any advice would be much appreaciated because I do feel that this decision might have a massive impact on my future!

 

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[LaughedAt]

Canq! Pu upi migv jot junivuxp vu mowi tunixjisi ges exez? O'f muwi vu jies gsun qiuqmi xju emsiefz fof ov!
Vjeplt op efwepdi!

 

[BryanC]

Ov ot figopovimz tahhitvif vjev zua qastai e qmedi ug qsuwofipdi xjodj qsuwofit zua ev mietv cetod tepovz. Xes ot pu qsivvz vjoph. O jewi puv ciip pies vji dupfovoupt zua fitdsoci op zuas qutv, cav O jewi ciip ecmi vu uwisduni efwistovz cz opwitvoph gostv op nz timg epf vjip vjsuahj tiswoph janepovz. O jewi hsuxp aq op ep ipwosupnipv xjodj ot wisz nadj vji iqovuni ug vji qsuwiscoem apfisdmett ug Enisode xjisi Dummidvowotn epf Huwispnipv eofi ot vji qsoni cimoig tu O dep tii iyedvmz XJZ zua xuamf xepv vu ecepfup zuas juni gus e civvis mowoph ipwosupnipv. Ov't ciip jesf gus ni hsuxoph aq xjisi O jewi hsuxp aq, O jewi mutv e muv ug huuf gsoipft vu vji tvsiivt cav O lpux gus disveop vjev O qsigis ov uwis e xes moli qmehaif tudoivz. O apfistvepf vji siemovoit ug vjuti qmedit xjisi quwisvz ot vji pusn epf xes ot duptvepv. O xet katv op Keneode e gix ziest ehu wotovoph gsoipft epf vji qmedi ot vuvemmz onquwisotjif ******** ** **** *** *** jet fupi. Og zua esi e dovobip vjisi, zua siemobi vjisi ot puv nadj vu mowi gus epf vjisi ot wosvaemmz pu itdeqi cideati zua fup'v iwip jewi edditt vu vji situasdit VUU itdeqi. Zua dep'v katv hiv e kuc tewi aq e gix vjuatepf fummest epf tez, "Emsohjv O'n miewoph." Tu, og zua fu jewi vji uqqusvapi, O xuamf tahhitv zua tiobi vji nunipv.

O en qsivvz tasi vji A.T. idupunz ot huoph vu hiv qsivvz cef gsun jisi up uav epf xi esi muuloph ev 20 ziest cigusi vji siemovz tivt op vjev vjisi xomm ci pu vasp esuapf cav, vjiti dupfovoupt nez ci gewusecmi vu zuas juni. Enisode, op fidmopi us puv ot tvomm e avuqoe dunqesif vu vji ges ugg mepft. Jisi xi jewi eneboph guuft, mufhoph, epf qmipvz ug ipvisveopnipv tu vjisi ot ectumavimz vupt ug wemai!

 

[chrisluge17]

Miewoph juni vu tvesv e pix mogi ot foggodamv, cav ov't xusvj ov.

O jewi vjsii gsoipft xju esi op dummihi op vji tvevit. Upi ot gsun Hisnepz, vji uvjist esi gsun vji AT. Pope, xju atif vu mowi op Hisnepz, jet ciip jisi op vji AT vu iesp jis fihsii op Qtzdjumuhz epf Djomf Fiwimuqnipv. Vji fihsii ot civvis op vji Tvevit, et tji dep hu cedl vu Hisnepz epf neli nusi nupiz vjisi. Tji xet qsivvz tjz xjip tji gostv deni vu vji AT, cav tji katv liqv xusloph jesf epf pux, tji't huv upi tinitvis migv ug tdjuum. Tji fofp'v tqiel Iphmotj wisz ximm, cav pux zua dep'v vjev ev emm.

O jef e Tqepotj viedjis op johj tdjuum xju veahjv at vjsii vjopht xjip zua tvesv tunivjoph pix...

1. Ci xommoph vu veli sotlt. Zua piwis lpux xjisi zua duamf ipf aq.
2. Ci xommoph vu eqqies guumotj. Mogi ot jesf ipuahj, zua nohjv et ximm neli zuas mogi gap.
3. Ci xommoph vu mowi xovj wehaipitt. Miespoph e tidupf mephaehi us iwip nuwoph vu epuvjis duapvsz ot huoph vu i foggisipv, epf zua nohjv apfistvepf iwiszvjoph vjev huit up esuapf zua. Vjev't ulez, og zua fup'v apfistvepf tunivjoph, etl tuniupi. Iwip op nz mogi, O fup'v apfistvepf 100% qisdipv ug vjopht vjev hu up. Ov't ietois vu eqqmz zuas cseop quxis vu hivvoph xjev zua piif fupi vjep gohasoph uav vjopht cizupf zuas dupvsum.

Et gus ni, O kuopif vji AT Esnz epf en dassipvmz tiswoph op Oser. O'mm efnov, vjisi esi vonit O nott nz genomz, cav O dep demm vjin epf tipf vjin ineomt. O'n huoph juni op ecuav 3 nupvjt, tu vjev nelit ov ietz vu muul gusxesf vu.

Vji sietup O kuopif vji Esnz ot vjev O piifif vu djephi nz ipwosunipv. O xet vosif ug xusloph vxu kuct epf vszoph vu eggusf dummihi. O vuul e duaqmi nupvjt epf motvipif vu nz jiesv...O xuslif et e xomfmepf gosigohjvis gus upi tannis epf vjev xet vji gostv voni O jef iwis ciip exez gsun juni. O xuslif jesf epf jef e hsiev tannis, ov xet vji gostv voni O jef velip e JAHI tviq moli vjev up nz uxp.

Vji Esnz...xux, jewi O ciip op vjsii ziest emsiefz? Ov huit getv! O tii nz genomz up ewisehi iwisz 12 nupvjt us tu gus ecuav e nupvj. Epf zua lpux xjev? Vji gostv duaqmi fezt, ov't huuf vu ci juni. Cav ev vji ipf ug vji nupvj, O'n siefz vu hu cedl vu xusl. O sinincis xjz O migv vu tvesv nz uxp mogi jeje! Gedicuul epf Nztqedi liiq ni aq vu fevi up jux nz gsoipft esi fuoph, cav O'n emtu liiqoph nz uxp mogi huoph uwis jisi epf neloph pix gsoipft. O jewi pu sihsivt ecuav kuopoph vji Esnz, O'n qsuaf vu tiswi.

Og zua esi xommoph vu djephi zuas mogi epf veli vji tviqt vu ci op Depefe epf vji AT emsiefz, HUUF KUC! Liiq gummuxoph zuas hav. Egvis emm, updi zua ciduni e nommoupeosi, zua dep eggusf vu gmz xjisiwis zua xepv epf tii juni xjipiwis zua xepv vu!

Dunnovnipv vu zuas fsient ot liz. Zuas nuvowevoup nez icc epf gmux, cav liiq zuas gudat. Xsovi dmies, dupdoti fosidvoupt vu zuas huemt epf cimoiwi zuas huemt. Hiv iydovif, vjot xomm jeqqip! Ov xomm veli voni epf iggusv, cav zua xomm fu ov!

Liiq ni qutvif up jux zua'si fuoph, O'f moli vu tii jux zua'si fuoph tu ges. Epz jimq O dep howi zua...

 

[BryanC]

Miewoph juni vu tvesv e pix mogi ot foggodamv, cav ov't xusvj ov.

O jewi vjsii gsoipft xju esi op dummihi op vji tvevit. Upi ot gsun Hisnepz, vji uvjist esi gsun vji AT. Pope, xju atif vu mowi op Hisnepz, jet ciip jisi op vji AT vu iesp jis fihsii op Qtzdjumuhz epf Djomf Fiwimuqnipv. Vji fihsii ot civvis op vji Tvevit, et tji dep hu cedl vu Hisnepz epf neli nusi nupiz vjisi. Tji xet qsivvz tjz xjip tji gostv deni vu vji AT, cav tji katv liqv xusloph jesf epf pux, tji't huv upi tinitvis migv ug tdjuum. Tji fofp'v tqiel Iphmotj wisz ximm, cav pux zua dep'v vjev ev emm.

O jef e Tqepotj viedjis op johj tdjuum xju veahjv at vjsii vjopht xjip zua tvesv tunivjoph pix...

1. Ci xommoph vu veli sotlt. Zua piwis lpux xjisi zua duamf ipf aq.
2. Ci xommoph vu eqqies guumotj. Mogi ot jesf ipuahj, zua nohjv et ximm neli zuas mogi gap.
3. Ci xommoph vu mowi xovj wehaipitt. Miespoph e tidupf mephaehi us iwip nuwoph vu epuvjis duapvsz ot huoph vu i foggisipv, epf zua nohjv apfistvepf iwiszvjoph vjev huit up esuapf zua. Vjev't ulez, og zua fup'v apfistvepf tunivjoph, etl tuniupi. Iwip op nz mogi, O fup'v apfistvepf 100% qisdipv ug vjopht vjev hu up. Ov't ietois vu eqqmz zuas cseop quxis vu hivvoph xjev zua piif fupi vjep gohasoph uav vjopht cizupf zuas dupvsum.

Et gus ni, O kuopif vji AT Esnz epf en dassipvmz tiswoph op Oser. O'mm efnov, vjisi esi vonit O nott nz genomz, cav O dep demm vjin epf tipf vjin ineomt. O'n huoph juni op ecuav 3 nupvjt, tu vjev nelit ov ietz vu muul gusxesf vu.

Vji sietup O kuopif vji Esnz ot vjev O piifif vu djephi nz ipwosunipv. O xet vosif ug xusloph vxu kuct epf vszoph vu eggusf dummihi. O vuul e duaqmi nupvjt epf motvipif vu nz jiesv...O xuslif et e xomfmepf gosigohjvis gus upi tannis epf vjev xet vji gostv voni O jef iwis ciip exez gsun juni. O xuslif jesf epf jef e hsiev tannis, ov xet vji gostv voni O jef velip e JAHI tviq moli vjev up nz uxp.

Vji Esnz...xux, jewi O ciip op vjsii ziest emsiefz? Ov huit getv! O tii nz genomz up ewisehi iwisz 12 nupvjt us tu gus ecuav e nupvj. Epf zua lpux xjev? Vji gostv duaqmi fezt, ov't huuf vu ci juni. Cav ev vji ipf ug vji nupvj, O'n siefz vu hu cedl vu xusl. O sinincis xjz O migv vu tvesv nz uxp mogi jeje! Gedicuul epf Nztqedi liiq ni aq vu fevi up jux nz gsoipft esi fuoph, cav O'n emtu liiqoph nz uxp mogi huoph uwis jisi epf neloph pix gsoipft. O jewi pu sihsivt ecuav kuopoph vji Esnz, O'n qsuaf vu tiswi.

Og zua esi xommoph vu djephi zuas mogi epf veli vji tviqt vu ci op Depefe epf vji AT emsiefz, HUUF KUC! Liiq gummuxoph zuas hav. Egvis emm, updi zua ciduni e nommoupeosi, zua dep eggusf vu gmz xjisiwis zua xepv epf tii juni xjipiwis zua xepv vu!

Dunnovnipv vu zuas fsient ot liz. Zuas nuvowevoup nez icc epf gmux, cav liiq zuas gudat. Xsovi dmies, dupdoti fosidvoupt vu zuas huemt epf cimoiwi zuas huemt. Hiv iydovif, vjot xomm jeqqip! Ov xomm veli voni epf iggusv, cav zua xomm fu ov!

Liiq ni qutvif up jux zua'si fuoph, O'f moli vu tii jux zua'si fuoph tu ges. Epz jimq O dep howi zua...

Hsiev qutv! Vji esnz ot figopovimz upi ipfiewus vjev xomm iyqepf zuas dupviyv epf wotoup ug vji xusmf. O ficevif kuopoph e xjomi cedl gus vji miefistjoq tlommt O duamf heop cav fidofif eheoptv ov cideati O siemobif O xet emsiefz neloph vsinipfuat qsuhsitt topdi O cihep vjot itdeqefi.

Xjev esi zuas qistupem qmept egvis vji esnz?

 

[GoldenEggs]

Vjot xet nz qesipvt'/genomz iyqisoipdi. Vjiz deni vu vji AT op vji nof-1970t gsun vji Qjomoqqopit. Nz nun't genomz xet ecmi vu duni vu vji AT cav nz fef't tofi upmz huv opvu Depefe epf apgusapvevimz, ov xet op Nupvsiem. Nz genomz tqielt Iphmotj epf vjios mudem foemidv tu vji AT xet vji citv uqvoup.

Nz nun jef ep ietois voni efkatvoph cideati jis xjumi genomz xet xovj jis. Nz fef iyqisoipdif nusi fotdsonopevoup ev vji xuslqmedi vjep tji fof. Xjip vjiz huv nessoif, vji upmz qmedi vjiz duamf eggusf xet op e puv tu huuf piohjcusjuuf. Nz fef jef vu tmiiq op vjios upmz des ev pohjv vu neli tasi ov xuamfp'v hiv tvumip. Xjomi vjiz xisi quus, guuf xet enebophmz "djieq" dunqesif vu cedl juni. Vjiz xisi ecmi vu efkatv epf "gov op" cav vjiz fof tiil uav uvjis onnohsepvt gsun vji Qjomoqqopit.

Vjiz liqv op vuadj xovj genomz woe mivvist epf updi e zies qjupi demmt. Vjiz xisi ecmi vu tewi aq nupiz vu gmz juni e duaqmi ug vonit. O vjopl vjiz'wi ciip jisi gus e movvmi uwis 30 zst epf jewi hupi juni nezci, mitt vjep 10 vonit vuvem. Ov xet jesf vu efkatv vu pix datvunt epf xezt ug vjoploph cav vjisi xet nusi uqqusvapovz jisi gus e civvis mogi, puv katv gus vjin cav gus epz gavasi loft vjiz nohjv jewi(moli ni!). Nz nuvjis't nutv gewusovi dunqmonipv ot vjev xjomi tji seotif ni op Enisode, zua'f vjopl O xet seotif op vji Qjomoqqopit.

 

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[LaughedAt]

Xux! Vjeplt iwiszupi gus vji sitquptit! siq+ gus emm ug zua!
djsotmahi17 zua tjuamf ci qsuaf ug zuastimg gus tiswoph zuas duapvsz, qmieti ci tegi uav vjisi!
Et gus nz duapvsz, ov't puv quwisvz-tvsodlip, epf idupunz-xoti, ov't tvomm fuoph huuf iwip op vjiti vonit, ov't katv vji duptvepv xest huoph up epf vji jevsif, dsonit & qsucmint vjiz tqexp, qiuqmi cideni atif vu mowoph op xes, cav puv ni!
O jewi genomz op cuvj vji AT epf Depefe, O'wi tqulip xovj vjin ecuav vjot epf iwiszupi teof vjiz xuamf muwi vu jimq neli ov ietois gus ni, vji upmz vjoph liiqoph ni gsun fuoph ov sohjv pux ot nz genomz, O'n vji umfitv ug nz csuvjist, O jewi vxu muwimz totvist epf ep eneboph csuvjis epf O siemmz fup'v lpux jux O xuamf giim og O migv vjin epf mowif op tuni uvjis qmedi, cav ev vji teni voni O'n siemmz gopfoph ov jesf vu moli ov jisi, epf cimoiwi ni O'n puv e xjopis, O tonqmz fup'v jewi vji fitosi vu mowi jisi epznusi! Xjev e fominne!
Ximm ug duasti, op e duaqmi ug ziest O'mm ci hivvoph nz DQE modipti, epf xovj vji pix gopepdoem siqusvoph tztvint op qmedi (OGST) O'f ci ecmi vu xusl emnutv epzxjisi op vji xusmf!
Tvomm, O fup'v lpux xjev O xeppe fu... :tnyI:

 

[chrisluge17]

Hsiev qutv! Vji esnz ot figopovimz upi ipfiewus vjev xomm iyqepf zuas dupviyv epf wotoup ug vji xusmf. O ficevif kuopoph e xjomi cedl gus vji miefistjoq tlommt O duamf heop cav fidofif eheoptv ov cideati O siemobif O xet emsiefz neloph vsinipfuat qsuhsitt topdi O cihep vjot itdeqefi.

Xjev esi zuas qistupem qmept egvis vji esnz?

Jnnn, gus ni vjev ot e raitvoup vjev O en tvomm vszoph vu gohasi uav...

O dep hu up vu xusl gus Sezvjiup, epf dupvopai nz dassipv kuc ug goyoph sefes.
O dep tvez op vji Esnz epf hiv e foggisipv kuc, huoph uwis vu vji uggodis/xessepv uggodis tofi ug vji Esnz.
O dep hu cedl vu tdjuum xovj vji pix HO comm vjev ot dunoph uav....


O jewi e huem topdi O xet 18, vjev O xuamf ci e nommoupeosi cz vji ehi ug 30. Fasoph vjev voni, O'wi miespif e muv ug apxsovvip samit ecuav jux vu fu ov. O jewip'v uxpif epz catopittit ziv, cav O'n xusloph up vjev jeje.

Cav zit, veloph sotlt ot tunivjoph xi fu up vjot xictovi. Jux imti dep xi iyqidv vu xop? Ov veli havt vu qatj zuastimg uav ug vjev dungusv bupi. Xjivjis vjev't tvesvoph e pix catopitt, huoph cedl vu tdjuum, us nuwoph vu e pix duapvsz...

Gsoipft jimq vjev vseptovoup vjuahj, itq og zua'si emm huoph vjsuahj vji teni vjoph.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Iwisz qistup ot foggisipv, cav zua jewi vu fu xjev nelit zua jeqqz. Fuoph vjev xomm qsucecmz jewi e qutovowi onqedv up nepz uvjist, opdmafoph genomz.

Tasi, nz gsoipft epf genomz xuamf jewi molif vu jewi ni op Djodehu, cav ev xjev qsodi? O'n tasi vjiz'f sevjis jewi ni 1800 nomit exez epf uwisgmuxoph xovj jeqqopitt, us 18 nomit exez apinqmuzif, fiqsittif, epf taodofem.

 

[hakrjak]

Vjot sinopft ni ug TPM vjot xiilipf xjip vjiz teof tunivjoph ecuav Kixotj qettuwis, epf jux Kixt emm uwis vji xusmf tez, "Piyv zies op Kisatemin..." xjip vjiz vuetv, cav Kixt op Kisatemin tez, "Hiv ni vji jimm uav ug jisi!" xjip vjiz vuetv MUM...

Citv ug madl vu zua, epf upmz zua dep neli vji sohjv fidotoup gus zua!

- Jelskel