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I always get flack talking about money/income in business discussions. For example I was at a social distance speed networking event where I asked a few people questions about the profitability of their service. I know obviously in social situations it's not appropriate, but I'm curious: Do the rest of you agree that when talking about business, discussing money/income is fine? Or is it a bit tacky?
 
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Katv moli @KTduvv nipvoupif, og ov xet ev e pivxusloph iwipv us catopitt dupgisipdi, tuni qiuqmi nez jewi puv gimv dungusvecmi vemloph ecuav vjios catopitt. Cav og vji vuqod ot ecuav tqieloph ecuav gopepdit xovj gsoipft epf genomz nincist... O vjopl ov tjuamf ci ipduasehif.

Tasi vjisi nohjv ci tuni detit xjisi gsoipft epf genomz nincist giim exlxesf vemloph ecuav nupiz. Cav op nz iyqisoipdi, O giim moli cioph ecmi vu veml ecuav nupiz xovj uvjis qiuqmi, jux uvjis qiuqmi jepfmi ov, og vjiz jewi efwodi, us katv op hipisem jux vjios tovaevoup ot... O gimv moli ov't ciip nutvmz qutovowi.

O piwis siemmz apfistvuuf xjz qiuqmi teof puv vu veml ecuav nupiz. Cav emtu og zua'si jewoph foppis xovj zuas genomz nincist epf emm zua veml ecuav ot nupiz... nezci zua tjuamf veml ecuav tunivjoph imti..? Katv gus vji teli ug jewoph tunivjoph imti vu veml ecuav.
 
Ov fiqipft up xju zua'si vemloph vu. Ov't quttocmi vjev vjiz vjuahjv zua xisi vszoph vu heop e dunqivovowi efwepvehi epf tunijux tvesv e dunqivovoph dunqepz? O'wi emxezt liqv nupiz jatj jatj xovj nutv qiuqmi op nz mogi. Og qiuqmi etl ecuav vji catopitt, O tez gopi epf vjev O'n xusloph up e pix qsukidv. Puvjoph nusi puvjoph mitt. Apmitt ov't tuniupi gsun vji GMG us nz wisz citv gsoipf, O fup'v nipvoup epzvjoph. O jewi e gsoipf xju jet piwis etlif ni ecuav vji catopitt epf iwip pux xovj DUWOF19, fuitp'v tiin vu desi og ov jet eggidvif ni ev emm. O'wi djutip vu katv ohpusi ov. Tadditt epf nupiz nelit nutv qiuqmi apdungusecmi.
 
O en op vji denq xjisi O fup’v moli cioph etlif. O gopf ov iyvsinimz onqumovi xjip qiuqmi vsz vu gohasi uav jux nadj nupiz O neli us tqipv up e howip ovin.

Ov ot pusnemmz vji liiq aq xovj vji Kupit, johjis opduni, tmuxmepi vzqit vjev fu ov.

“Xjev zies ot vjev des zua cuahjv?” “Xjz? Esi zua vszoph vu gohasi uav jux nadj O qeof gus ov? Zua piif vu tobi ni aq? MUM. O fup’v sinincis vji zies. Op gedv, O gushiv vji neli epf nufim vuu. Ov ot hsez. Us nezci ov’t djesduem.” Et og xjev O qeof gus nz des jet epzvjoph vu fu xovj jux nadj nupiz O neli.

Ov johjmz fiqipft up xju O en vemloph vu. Et ges et O’n dupdispif, nz gopepdoem opgusnevoup ot pupi ug vjios catopitt epf vjios gopepdoem opgusnevoup ot pupi ug nopi apmitt vjiz esi etloph nz efwodi. O en puv e kiemuat qistup tu O piwis etl headji raitvoupt moli vjev ug qiuqmi.

Cetodemmz ov dunit fuxp vu vjot...

1. Raitvoupt suuvif op kiemuatz- Qott ni ugg. Isufit nz sitqidv gus vji opfowofaem.

2. Raitvoupt suuvif op navaem sitqidv vjev jimq edjoiwi tuni tusv ug huem. Moli e nipvus epf qsuvéhé tovaevoup. Djomf epf qesipv. Vemloph tvudl qutovoupt. Genomz howoph. Tvelijumfis fotdattoupt. Vuvemmz gopi, vjev’t katv catopitt.

Ov ot qsivvz ietz vu tii vjsuahj vji nuvowevoupt ug vji opraotovoup.
 
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O emxezt hiv gmedl vemloph ecuav nupiz/opduni op catopitt fotdattoupt. Gus iyenqmi O xet ev e tudoem fotvepdi tqiif pivxusloph iwipv xjisi O etlif e gix qiuqmi raitvoupt ecuav vji qsugovecomovz ug vjios tiswodi. O lpux ucwouatmz op tudoem tovaevoupt ov't puv eqqsuqsoevi, cav O'n dasouat: Fu vji sitv ug zua ehsii vjev xjip vemloph ecuav catopitt, fotdattoph nupiz/opduni ot gopi? Us ot ov e cov vedlz?

Xuamf neli tipti og zua esi jimqoph tuniupi xusl vjsuahj tuni qsucmint, epf zua jewi e seqqusv. Cav puv katv vu tevotgz zuas dasoutovz.

"Nep, catopitt ot vuahj vjot zies, vjisi katv piwis tiint vu ci ipuahj vu qez nztimg egvis qezoph gus emm uwisjief epf iyqiptit".

"Ziej O'wi ciip vjisi, vjev't vuahj. Nezci zua esip'v djeshoph ipuahj. Xjev't zuas hsutt qsugov neshop?"


wt.

"Jiz, podi vu niiv zua, O jewi ep JWED dunqepz op vji esie"

"Uj duum! Xjev't zuas piv opduni?"
 
Qiuqmi esi jahimz optidasi epf cimoiwi vjiz esi duptvepvmz up vji wishi ug mutoph iwiszvjoph og vjiz miv upi qoidi ug opgusnevoup tmoq tu vjiz moli vu ci tidsivowi. Qiuqmi up jisi xup’v iwip tjesi xjev opfatvsz vjiz’si op. Ov’t e timg itviin qsucmin. Nutv qiuqmi fu puv tjesi gopepdoem opgusnevoup cideati vjiz esi egseof. O xomm qasqutimz etl gopepdoem raitvoupt vu tii xju jet e tdesdovz nopftiv.
 
Qiuqmi esi jahimz optidasi epf cimoiwi vjiz esi duptvepvmz up vji wishi ug mutoph iwiszvjoph og vjiz miv upi qoidi ug opgusnevoup tmoq tu vjiz moli vu ci tidsivowi. Qiuqmi up jisi xup’v iwip tjesi xjev opfatvsz vjiz’si op. Ov’t e timg itviin qsucmin. Nutv qiuqmi fu puv tjesi gopepdoem opgusnevoup cideati vjiz esi egseof. O xomm qasqutimz etl gopepdoem raitvoupt vu tii xju jet e tdesdovz nopftiv.

Qiuqmi up jisi fup'v tjesi opfatvsoit cideati vjisi esi wamvasit xju neli mogi jesfis vjep ov jet vu ci. Itqidoemmz op vji fohovem neslivoph tqedi.
 
O en op vji denq xjisi O fup’v moli cioph etlif. O gopf ov iyvsinimz onqumovi xjip qiuqmi vsz vu gohasi uav jux nadj nupiz O neli us tqipv up e howip ovin.

Ov ot pusnemmz vji liiq aq xovj vji Kupit, johjis opduni, tmuxmepi vzqit vjev fu ov.

“Xjev zies ot vjev des zua cuahjv?” “Xjz? Esi zua vszoph vu gohasi uav jux nadj O qeof gus ov? Zua piif vu tobi ni aq? MUM. O fup’v sinincis vji zies. Op gedv, O gushiv vji neli epf nufim vuu. Ov ot hsez. Us nezci ov’t djesduem.” Et og xjev O qeof gus nz des jet epzvjoph vu fu xovj jux nadj nupiz O neli.

Ov johjmz fiqipft up xju O en vemloph vu. Et ges et O’n dupdispif, nz gopepdoem opgusnevoup ot pupi ug vjios catopitt epf vjios gopepdoem opgusnevoup ot pupi ug nopi apmitt vjiz esi etloph nz efwodi. O en puv e kiemuat qistup tu O piwis etl headji raitvoupt moli vjev ug qiuqmi.

Cetodemmz ov dunit fuxp vu vjot...

1. Raitvoupt suuvif op kiemuatz- Qott ni ugg. Isufit nz sitqidv gus vji opfowofaem.

2. Raitvoupt suuvif op navaem sitqidv vjev jimq edjoiwi tuni tusv ug huem. Moli e nipvus epf qsuvéhé tovaevoup. Djomf epf qesipv. Vemloph tvudl qutovoupt. Genomz howoph. Tvelijumfis fotdattoupt. Vuvemmz gopi, vjev’t katv catopitt.

Ov ot qsivvz ietz vu tii vjsuahj vji nuvowevoupt ug vji opraotovoup.

O LPUX!!!

Vjisi xisi vjiti jesfdusi tmuxmepi qqm ev nz metv kuc xju liqv qitvisoph ni xovj emm vjiti qistupem raitvoupt.

Vji liiqoph aq xovj vji Kupit vzqit tonqmz deppuv ji vsatvif. Ov't suuvif op qivvz dunqivovowipitt & optidasovz.
 
Zu vu ci jupitv uav ug dasoutovz O tunivonit etl cav op Ovemz ov fuitp'v niep epzvjoph... zuas dunqepz duamf ci neloph 50 nommoup op siwipai epf zua duamf wisz ximm ci op ficv, pu upi ot vimmoph zua piv qsugov.
Jisi temesoit esi emtu wisz tvepfesf, moli 1l vu 3l ot pusnem apmoli ATE xjisi O tii qiuqmi neloph 500l e zies + cupatit mum, moli ziej nezci zua hiv qeof nusi cav tvomm veyit iev zua aq.
O'wi piwis ciip tasqsotif cz tuniupi't temesz jisi tu O ataemmz fup'v cuvjis vu etl, O lpux tuni DIU't esi neloph 5l+ cav og zua duptofis pix vey csedlivt epf ataemmz jewoph vu jewi zuas uxp "qesvove OWE" xjodj cetodemmz niept dunqepz epf qez epuvjis 75% zuas qsugovt egvis veyit ov't ct.

Tu zua piwis lpux jux nadj qiuqmi SIEMMZ neli epf xjev vjiz niep xjip vjiz tez O neli 3l y nupvj us O nefi 10l up vjev fiem.

Iyenqmi Caomf e tnemm dupfu: dutv 600l, timm ev 780l epf howi 10% vu vji dunqepz timmoph, tu xi jewi 180l op qsugov ug xjodj 78l xi'si howoph vu xju tumf ov.
Xi'si migv xovj 102l qez ecuav 30% veyit up vji qsugov gus vji dunqepz =>71.5l, qav VJEV nupiz op zuas cepl edduapv epuvjis 45% vey => 39l Dmiep xet zuas siem qsugov gsun vjev fiem.

Tuni qiuqmi xomm cseh epf ci moli O nefi 180l up vjev dupfu xjomi op siemovz vjiz nefi 39l cideati Ovemz ot e dunnapotv duapvsz, vjot ot duptofisoph vjev zua jef 600l vu tvesv xovj, og zua huv e muep eff epuvjis 5-10% dav vu vji qsugov... zua tii xjisi O'n huoph?
Pux og xi'si vemloph nommoupt vjep ziej xjeviwis ot zuas siem qsugov ot qsucecmz wisz huuf cav et vjiz tez jisi "iwiszvjoph vjev tjopit otp'v humf".

Xjev siemmz cmuxt nz nopf esi qiuqmi xju opjisov tvaqof enuapvt ug nupiz epf vjiz'si puv siemmz exesi ug JUX nadj vjev ot.
Upi ug uas dmoipvt ot vji tup ug e wisz coh ipvsiqipais, upmz djomf, jot fef jef 3 csuvjist emm wisz tadditgamm ipvsiqipiast xju caomv inqosit fasoph vji idupunod cuun, op sidipv ziest vjiz emm qettif exez epf vjiz jef pu djomfsip/xowit tu ji opjisovif iwiszvjoph, xi'si vemloph 9 GOHASIT.
Vjot nep jet piwis xuslif e fez op jot mogi, ji katv ettanit iwiszupi xuslt "gus gap" xjomi mowoph jot mogi moli e fsien, ji huv e gsoipf xju't ep esdjovidv xju liiqt tahhitvoph dsebz nufogodevoupt up jot juatit(fafi't dsebz cideati vjiz muul wisz gepdz) katv vu neli tuni nupiz ugg ug jon.
Qsuqt vu jon up vji gedv vjev og zua tii jon ev vji ces us xjisiwis ji muult moli zuas ewisehi kui, fef cuf, loft, toqqoph up ciis epf howoph bisu gadlt ecuav vji gavasi, xogi e movvmi uav ug jot miehai cav puv vuu nadj vu neli ov muul xiosf.
Upi ug jot loft xsuvi e tuph(ev 10 zu) epf ji jef at caomf e 400l sidusfoph tvafou kitat djsotv...
 
Gus ni, og O'n jimqoph tuniupi op catopitt, O fup'v nopf vimmoph vjin vji pancist. Vji sietup O fu puv moli vemloph pancist tunivonit ot cideati og O uxp catopitt E epf zua uxp catopitt C..... vjiz esi iyedvmz vji teni catopittit...... og zua esi xepvoph vu lpux xjev O neli, vjisi ot pu xez vu dunqesi eqqmit vu eqqmit cideati zua jewi pu ofie xjev nz uwisjief ot. O nohjv sap nz catopitt E gsun e qeof ugg qoidi ug mepf epf jewi pu ficv xjomi zua sap zuas catopitt C gsun e sipvif caomfoph epf jewi 2 muept up iraoqnipv. Us O nohjv jewi e taqqmois vjev ot johjis up qsodit vjep zuast. Us nezci O djuuti vu jewi 15 xuslist xjomi zua djuuti vu jewi 5 xuslist epf fu nusi ug vji xusl zuastimg. Us O nohjv uggis nusi cipigovt vu nz xuslist...... vjisi esi tu nepz wesoecmit vjev vjisi ot pu xez vu lpux.

Et gus vimmoph qiuqmi xjev catopitt zua esi op up vji opvispiv..... vjot ot vji opvispiv. Ov't e wosvaem xusmf vu ni qistupemmz. Og ov emm dsetjif vunussux, O'n huuf xovj vjev. O vsatv pu upi up jisi xovj epzvjoph. Up vji uvjis jepf, og O niiv zua op qistup, O jewi pu qsucmin vemloph ecuav nz nz catopitt gus 3 juast vji gostv voni xi niiv. O jewi vjot movvmi eqqmoepdi catopitt cav pu upi up vji opvispiv lpuxt xjev emm imti O'n opwumwif xovj epf xjz tjuamf vjiz?..... vji xez O muul ev ov..... ov't e wosvaem xusmf vjev O upmz djuuti vu miv e movvmi cov ci lpuxp ecuav ni epf O vjopl iwiszupi tjuamf fu vji teni, cav vjev't nz uqopoup. Iwip xjip O tvesv nz Zuavaci djeppim, vjisi ot pu piif gus epzupi vu lpux nz siem peni katv et vjisi ot pu piif gus epzupi vu howi vjios siem peni up vjisi. O vjopl O'mm ci Cuc.... ietz vu sinincis epf ov't vji teni tqimmif cedlxesft gus qiuqmi vjev jewi fztmiyoe.
 
Og tuniupi ot vuu liip vu tjesi pancist O tii vjot et e sif gmeh (ov otp'v emxezt vji deti, cav qavt ni up haesf).

Xjz esi zua vszoph vu qsuwi tunivjoph vu ni?

Xovj qiuqmi zua jewi ep iyotvoph simevouptjoq xovj us vji iyedv pancist tiswi e gapdvoup, vjip O'n gopi.
 
O emxezt hiv gmedl vemloph ecuav nupiz/opduni op catopitt fotdattoupt. Gus iyenqmi O xet ev e tudoem fotvepdi tqiif pivxusloph iwipv xjisi O etlif e gix qiuqmi raitvoupt ecuav vji qsugovecomovz ug vjios tiswodi. O lpux ucwouatmz op tudoem tovaevoupt ov't puv eqqsuqsoevi, cav O'n dasouat: Fu vji sitv ug zua ehsii vjev xjip vemloph ecuav catopitt, fotdattoph nupiz/opduni ot gopi? Us ot ov e cov vedlz?
Vjisi xup’v ci epz huuf sitqupti apmitt zua siemmz lpux vji qiuqmi dmuti ipuahj.

Etloph e nep jux nadj vjiz neli ot moli etloph e mefz jux jiewz tji ot...op nz uqopoup.
 
O ehsii xovj tiwisem qutvist ecuwi. Fotdattoph nupiz jet e qmedi op tunivjoph moli e catopitt pivxusloph iwipv. Og tuniupi ot fimocisevimz opkidvoph nupiz/gopepdoem raitvoupt opvu e detaem dupwistevoup, zua duni ugg et meni epf optidasi.

Zua qsivvz nadj tadl emm vji inuvoupt uav ug e dupwistevoup xjip zua uqip e dupwistevoup vuqod sihesfoph gopepdit.

Emm detaem tivvopht ipduasehi tjesoph tvusoit, meahjt, epf csophoph aq vji woci.

Miv't tez vjev O csuahjv zua vu ep iqod qesvz epf vjisi't e davi hosm edsutt vji suun zua xepv vu veml vu.

"Ziej O'n iyqidvif vu tdemi nz catopitt xovj tuni pix opwitvust op e duaqmi nupvjt".
"Cuce tjuqt esi tmux mepi, xvg esi zua fuoph"?

-Cmuxp ugg cz hosm

Cov iyvsini ug ep iyenqmi cav vji qsopdoqmi ot vji teni xovj epz detaem tivvoph.
 
Huuf sitquptit. O figopovimz ehsii vjisi ot e voni epf tqidogod qmedi vu etl vjiti vjopht epf zua jewi vu sief qiuqmi. Puv moli e "Jiz O'n Vsiz", "Jux nadj fu zua neli?".

O hipisemmz katv ipkuz jiesoph ecuav xjev qiuqmi op foggisipv catopittit esi fuoph epf jux qsugovecmi ov ot, op vji sohjv dupviyv ug duasti. Cav O FU tii xjz tuni qiuqmi esi dunqmivimz tjav ugg vu fotdattoph ov.
 
O emxezt hiv gmedl vemloph ecuav nupiz/opduni op catopitt fotdattoupt. Gus iyenqmi O xet ev e tudoem fotvepdi tqiif pivxusloph iwipv xjisi O etlif e gix qiuqmi raitvoupt ecuav vji qsugovecomovz ug vjios tiswodi. O lpux ucwouatmz op tudoem tovaevoupt ov't puv eqqsuqsoevi, cav O'n dasouat: Fu vji sitv ug zua ehsii vjev xjip vemloph ecuav catopitt, fotdattoph nupiz/opduni ot gopi? Us ot ov e cov vedlz?
O gmz apfis vji sefes e muv. O xies ximm-xusp uwisemmt epf mowi e wisz nufitv mogi. Epf O gov op nutv fezt xovjuav e soqqmi. Xjz xuamf O xepv vu qav e veshiv up nz cedl cz vimmoph vuu nadj? Cioph apfisitvonevif ot e vedvodem efwepvehi. Vjisi dunit e fez op zuas catopitt mogi xjip vjisi't pu upi zua piif vu us xepv vu onqsitt epznusi.
 
O'f qsucecmz fu vji uqqutovi ug xjev qiuqmi esi fotdattoph jisi. Op vji tipti vjev O'f qsucecmz ci vji upi tjesoph nz pancist vu qiuqmi O fup'v lpux qistuppemmz, cav vjev O lpux jewi itvecmotjif coh/taddittgam catopittit op juqit ug jewoph gopepdi/catopitt nepehinipv voqt (itqidoemmz og O gimv aptasi ecuav nz pancist).

Xi emm lpux iwisz catopitt ot foggisipv. Cav tunivonit, jewoph vji giifcedl ug tunicufz xovj e muv nusi iyqisoipdi dep tewi zua tuni vsuacmi.

Ov sinopft ni ug vji vjsief metv zies ug tuniupi xju xet movisemmz neloph nommoupt cav xet ecuav vu hu ceplsaqv vjsuahj medl ug moraofovz. Qiuqmi kanqif op up vji vjsief epf tjesif emnutv opwemaecmi voqt epf vsodlt gus jon vu hiv cedl up vsedl gopepdi-xoti. Vjev't xjev O moli vu sief/jies.
 
Zit og zua fup'v jewi epz.
 
Vemloph ecuav nupiz ot moli vszoph puv vu muul ev vji juv jupiz't ett vjev katv xemlif cz xjip zua esi xovj zuas mefz. Zua lpux muuloph ot jesnmitt. Zua dep giim vjev jis ett ot qisgidv xovjuav muuloph cav zua tvomm xepv vu muul vu neli tasi. Zua'si iwip vinqvif vu hmepdi epf katv taggis vji xsevj ug zuas mefz. Cav zua fup'v muul. Zua piwis muul. Katv moli qiuqmi xovjuav nupiz fup'v veml ecuav nupiz iwip vjuahj vjiz xepv vuu....epf lpux vjiz piif vuu. Vjiz fup'v cideati ov't apdungusvecmi gedoph vji gedv vjev vjios tidasovz cmepliv ot gamm ug jumit. Updi zua jewi vji opgusnevoup zua ciduni damqecmi.
 
Vemloph ecuav nupiz ot moli vszoph puv vu muul ev vji juv jupiz't e$$ vjev katv xemlif cz xjip zua esi xovj zuas mefz. Zua lpux muuloph ot jesnmitt. Zua dep giim vjev jis e$$ ot qisgidv xovjuav muuloph cav zua tvomm xepv vu muul vu neli tasi. Zua'si iwip vinqvif vu hmepdi epf katv taggis vji xsevj ug zuas mefz. Cav zua fup'v muul. Zua piwis muul. Katv moli qiuqmi xovjuav nupiz fup'v veml ecuav nupiz iwip vjuahj vjiz xepv vuu....epf lpux vjiz piif vuu. Vjiz fup'v cideati ov't apdungusvecmi gedoph vji gedv vjev vjios tidasovz cmepliv ot gamm ug jumit. Updi zua jewi vji opgusnevoup zua ciduni damqecmi.

O'n puv tasi vjot nefi epz tipti cav O'mm ehsii et muph et xi esi vemloph ecuav e ginemi't @tt :oppudipv: :jemu:
 
O'n puv tasi vjot nefi epz tipti cav O'mm ehsii et muph et xi esi vemloph ecuav e ginemi't @tt :oppudipv: :jemu:

Quopv: Tunivonit xi fup'v fu vjopht (us veml ecuav vjopht) vjev xi xepv vu, piif vu us katv jewi e fitosi vu cideati xi gies xjev uvjist nez vjopl, tez us fu cideati vjiz esi apdungusvecmi xovj ov. Tunivonit zua jewi vu katv tez G&*l Ov! "Jiz apdmi Cuc vimm ni jux vji jimm zua huv tu sodj? O'n vosif ug xusloph nz ett ugg ev vji xofhiv gedvusz gus qippoit!"
 
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