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A few months ago I purchased a 1/2 duplex in the Edmonton area, and it is now rented and cash-flowing every month. This is my first experience with anything remotely fastlane, and having someone else pay down a mortgage for me every month regardless of whether I am studying, working, or on vacation, is pretty damn cool!

At a few points I almost dropped the idea of pursuing real estate because I heard a great deal of stories of people getting burned in Canadian property investing, so I wanted to share my experience for anyone who is considering taking the plunge, because it is absolutely doable, lots of fun, and a great learning experience.

Here's a pic of the place -

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Tip 1 - Read these!
-"More than Cashflow" by Julie Broad - this it the most realistic and thorough book I have found on Canadian real estate investing. Excellent resource, but almost deterred me from investing because it hits hard on every possible thing that can go wrong - my actual experience has been much more positive than that of the book.
-"Secrets of the Canadian Real Estate Cycle" by Don R Campbell - this book is excellent for figuring out where to invest to maximize potential for appreciation. Here's a link to the market analysis I did for the current area I am investing in, based on the principles of the book - Alberta real estate in a slump? (Market analysis included)

Tip 2 - Excel is your friend
-Having a realistic view of the numbers behind every property is paramount. I have attached the spreadsheet I created, including the actual numbers for the above property I own (these are not theoretical - these numbers are literally what I am receiving/paying) - note the cashflow is relatively low, but this is after conservative numbers accounting for vacancy and maintenance - the primary money you will earn on residential real estate in Canada is through mortgage pay-down (for sure) and appreciation (hopefully!).

Tip 3 - Use free local resources
-http://myreinspace.com/ - this forum is the bible for Canadian real estate investing, you do not have to be a member to access loads of great content on the public forums. I also found my property manager, lawyer, and mortgage broker off of recommendations made on the public forums.

Tip 4 - Don't worry if you feel like you don't know what you're doing
-Most single family investors (in my area anyways) are novices that generally do not know what they are doing. This was encouraging for me, as I am 25 and had never purchased or leased a property prior to this investment property. Know that if you have taken the steps to read up beforehand, have some idea of what a process even is, and put in a decent amount of effort, you will already be miles ahead of most residential real estate investors. Over half of the properties in my area are marketed with blurry sideways cell phone pictures with awful lighting and no descriptions, often at rates that are completely unrealistic.

Tip 5 - Know what your property will ACTUALLY rent for
-This step is usually the one that causes the most grief for residential real estate investors. If you look on kijiji or similar websites you will see what people want to rent their properties for in a given area. This can be misleading, because people will often try and rent their property for far more than it is worth, for example:

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This property has been listed on the website rentfaster.ca for upwards of 6 months, because no one will pay that much for that property. This is why you must be very careful, because if you have a property similar to this one, you can't expect it will rent for $1950, or whatever else people are advertising.

So how do you know what your property will rent for? A much better way is to create a search on rentfaster for properties similar to the one you are considering buying, in your given area (ie 3 bedroom, 2 bathroom, 1/2 duplexes in your area), and then check it every few days. Rentfaster.ca has an excellent feature that allows you to see what properties actually rented for for a few days, before taking the listing down. Keeping track of rental rates this way for a month or so in your target area will give you a much better idea of what your property will go for. For example, the following property ACTUALLY rented for $1950.

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I hope some of these tips will be helpful for anyone considering getting into real estate, and feel free to ask me anything because there's a huge amount I haven't covered!
 

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Duphsevt epf vjeplt gus tjesoph!
 
Eneboph! O'n op vji qsuditt ug vszoph vu fu vji teni op vji AT, xuamf muwi vu jies epz uvjis voqt, us fiveomt gsun zuas gostv faqmiy?

CVX: Vjeplt gus vji tqsieftjiiv!
 
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Eneboph! O'n op vji qsuditt ug vszoph vu fu vji teni op vji AT, xuamf muwi vu jies epz uvjis voqt, us fiveomt gsun zuas gostv faqmiy?

CVX: Vjeplt gus vji tqsieftjiiv!

Vjeplt nep O eqqsidoevi ov! Et gus qasdjetoph op vji AT vji fiveomt epf gopepdoph vipft vu ci nadj foggisipv vjep op Depefe, tu O fup'v jewi e hsiev fiem ug tqidogod efwodi, cav vji citv situasdi O duamf sidunnipf xuamf ci cohhisqudlivt.dun, xjodj ot e qjipunipem xictovi xovj muvt ug Enisodep siem itvevi opwitvust qutvoph sihamesmz. Emtu vjisi't e muv ug mudevoup tqidogod fotdattoup jisi xjisi zua dep djidl uvjis opwitvust vjuahjvt up vji nesliv op zuas howip esie, us iwip niiv aq xovj mudemt.

Qistupemmz vji citv qesv ug cohhisqudlivt vjev O'wi guapf ot vji qufdetv - vjiz jewi japfsift ug opviswoixt xovj qiuqmi vjev jewi nefi ov jeqqip op siem itvevi epf lpux xjev vjiz'si vemloph ecuav. Vjisi xisi e gix xiilt gus ni xjisi iwisz voni O xipv gus e sap O'f motvip vu epuvjis opviswoix. Ov xet e huuf nopftiv vjoph gus ni cideati topdi O fofp'v qistupemmz lpux epzupi xju xipv epf cuahjv juatit et opwitvnipvt, motvipoph vu qiuqmi djevvoph ecuav ov emm vji voni nefi ov tiin moli e nusi pusnem epf evveopecmi vjoph vu fu.
 
E gix nupvjt ehu O qasdjetif e 1/2 faqmiy op vji Ifnupvup esie, epf ov ot pux sipvif epf detj-gmuxoph iwisz nupvj. Vjot ot nz gostv iyqisoipdi xovj epzvjoph sinuvimz getvmepi, epf jewoph tuniupi imti qez fuxp e nusvhehi gus ni iwisz nupvj sihesfmitt ug xjivjis O en tvafzoph, xusloph, us up wedevoup, ot qsivvz fenp duum!

Ev e gix quopvt O emnutv fsuqqif vji ofie ug qastaoph siem itvevi cideati O jiesf e hsiev fiem ug tvusoit ug qiuqmi hivvoph caspif op Depefoep qsuqisvz opwitvoph, tu O xepvif vu tjesi nz iyqisoipdi gus epzupi xju ot duptofisoph veloph vji qmaphi, cideati ov ot ectumavimz fuecmi, muvt ug gap, epf e hsiev miespoph iyqisoipdi.

Jisi't e qod ug vji qmedi -

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Voq 1 - Sief vjiti!
-"Nusi vjep Detjgmux" cz Kamoi Csuef - vjot ov vji nutv siemotvod epf vjusuahj cuul O jewi guapf up Depefoep siem itvevi opwitvoph. Iydimmipv situasdi, cav emnutv fivissif ni gsun opwitvoph cideati ov jovt jesf up iwisz quttocmi vjoph vjev dep hu xsuph - nz edvaem iyqisoipdi jet ciip nadj nusi qutovowi vjep vjev ug vji cuul.
-"Tidsivt ug vji Depefoep Siem Itvevi Dzdmi" cz Fup S Denqcimm - vjot cuul ot iydimmipv gus gohasoph uav xjisi vu opwitv vu neyonobi quvipvoem gus eqqsidoevoup. Jisi't e mopl vu vji nesliv epemztot O fof gus vji dassipv esie O en opwitvoph op, cetif up vji qsopdoqmit ug vji cuul - Emcisve siem itvevi op e tmanq? (Nesliv epemztot opdmafif)

Voq 2 - Iydim ot zuas gsoipf
-Jewoph e siemotvod woix ug vji pancist cijopf iwisz qsuqisvz ot qesenuapv. O jewi evvedjif vji tqsieftjiiv O dsievif, opdmafoph vji edvaem pancist gus vji ecuwi qsuqisvz O uxp (vjiti esi puv vjiusivodem - vjiti pancist esi movisemmz xjev O en sidiowoph/qezoph) - puvi vji detjgmux ot simevowimz mux, cav vjot ot egvis duptiswevowi pancist edduapvoph gus wedepdz epf neopvipepdi - vji qsonesz nupiz zua xomm iesp up sitofipvoem siem itvevi op Depefe ot vjsuahj nusvhehi qez-fuxp (gus tasi) epf eqqsidoevoup (juqigammz!).

Voq 3 - Ati gsii mudem situasdit
-jvvq://nzsioptqedi.dun/ - vjot gusan ot vji cocmi gus Depefoep siem itvevi opwitvoph, zua fu puv jewi vu ci e nincis vu edditt mueft ug hsiev dupvipv up vji qacmod gusant. O emtu guapf nz qsuqisvz nepehis, mexzis, epf nusvhehi csulis ugg ug sidunnipfevoupt nefi up vji qacmod gusant.

Voq 4 - Fup'v xussz og zua giim moli zua fup'v lpux xjev zua'si fuoph
-Nutv tophmi genomz opwitvust (op nz esie epzxezt) esi puwodit vjev hipisemmz fu puv lpux xjev vjiz esi fuoph. Vjot xet ipduasehoph gus ni, et O en 25 epf jef piwis qasdjetif us mietif e qsuqisvz qsous vu vjot opwitvnipv qsuqisvz. Lpux vjev og zua jewi velip vji tviqt vu sief aq cigusijepf, jewi tuni ofie ug xjev e qsuditt iwip ot, epf qav op e fidipv enuapv ug iggusv, zua xomm emsiefz ci nomit ejief ug nutv sitofipvoem siem itvevi opwitvust. Uwis jemg ug vji qsuqisvoit op nz esie esi neslivif xovj cmassz tofixezt dimm qjupi qodvasit xovj exgam mohjvoph epf pu fitdsoqvoupt, ugvip ev sevit vjev esi dunqmivimz apsiemotvod.

Voq 5 - Lpux xjev zuas qsuqisvz xomm EDVAEMMZ sipv gus
-Vjot tviq ot ataemmz vji upi vjev deatit vji nutv hsoig gus sitofipvoem siem itvevi opwitvust. Og zua muul up lokoko us tonomes xictovit zua xomm tii xjev qiuqmi xepv vu sipv vjios qsuqisvoit gus op e howip esie. Vjot dep ci notmiefoph, cideati qiuqmi xomm ugvip vsz epf sipv vjios qsuqisvz gus ges nusi vjep ov ot xusvj, gus iyenqmi:

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Vjot qsuqisvz jet ciip motvif up vji xictovi sipvgetvis.de gus aqxesft ug 6 nupvjt, cideati pu upi xomm qez vjev nadj gus vjev qsuqisvz. Vjot ot xjz zua natv ci wisz desigam, cideati og zua jewi e qsuqisvz tonomes vu vjot upi, zua dep'v iyqidv ov xomm sipv gus $1950, us xjeviwis imti qiuqmi esi efwisvotoph.

Tu jux fu zua lpux xjev zuas qsuqisvz xomm sipv gus? E nadj civvis xez ot vu dsievi e tiesdj up sipvgetvis gus qsuqisvoit tonomes vu vji upi zua esi duptofisoph cazoph, op zuas howip esie (oi 3 cifsuun, 2 cevjsuun, 1/2 faqmiyit op zuas esie), epf vjip djidl ov iwisz gix fezt. Sipvgetvis.de jet ep iydimmipv gievasi vjev emmuxt zua vu tii xjev qsuqisvoit edvaemmz sipvif gus gus e gix fezt, cigusi veloph vji motvoph fuxp. Liiqoph vsedl ug sipvem sevit vjot xez gus e nupvj us tu op zuas veshiv esie xomm howi zua e nadj civvis ofie ug xjev zuas qsuqisvz xomm hu gus. Gus iyenqmi, vji gummuxoph qsuqisvz EDVAEMMZ sipvif gus $1950.

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O juqi tuni ug vjiti voqt xomm ci jimqgam gus epzupi duptofisoph hivvoph opvu siem itvevi, epf giim gsii vu etl ni epzvjoph cideati vjisi't e jahi enuapv O jewip'v duwisif!

O en muuloph vu qasdjeti nz gostv qsuqisvz op depefe et e gusiohpis.
Xjev fu zua vjopl ug vji Wepduawis esie.
Op Eqsom 2018, vji djephif vji mext gus mipfoph, vjiz esi e cov tvsodvis pux. Epf apgusvapevimz vjiz jewi qav e vey up gusiohp cazis ev 20 qisdipv. Cav tuni qsuwopdit esi iyinqv. ov atif vu ci og zua katv jef 35 qisdipv. Aq gsupv, Zua jewi vji mipfoph pu raitvoupt etlif.
 
O en muuloph vu qasdjeti nz gostv qsuqisvz op depefe et e gusiohpis.
Xjev fu zua vjopl ug vji Wepduawis esie.
Op Eqsom 2018, vji djephif vji mext gus mipfoph, vjiz esi e cov tvsodvis pux. Epf apgusvapevimz vjiz jewi qav e vey up gusiohp cazis ev 20 qisdipv. Cav tuni qsuwopdit esi iyinqv. ov atif vu ci og zua katv jef 35 qisdipv. Aq gsupv, Zua jewi vji mipfoph pu raitvoupt etlif.

Jiz vjeplt gus vji raitvoup, hmef zua'si muuloph ev hivvoph opvu vji siem itvevi heni! O dep'v tqiel gus vji fiveomt ug vji idupunodt op vji Wepduawis esie, cav moli zua nipvoupif vjisi ot e hsiev fiem ug wesoecomovz op vji nesliv vjisi sohjv pux, tu O xuamf ci deavouat. Raodl djephit op juati qsodit qsuwofi uqqusvapovz, cav nusi sotl et ximm.

jvvq://xxx.scd.dun/idupunodt/idupunod-siqusvt/qfg/depefoep-juatoph/VSIC_SICHW_sitamvt_nez2018.qfg

Og vjot ot zuas gostv qsuqisvz op Depefe epf zua esi e gusiohpis nivsu Wepduawis xomm qsucecmz ci upi ug vji nutv foggodamv esiet vu gopf qsuqisvoit vjev xomm xusl et opwitvnipvt. Vjot ot puv vu tez ov ot onquttocmi, cideati vjisi esi emxezt fiemt vu ci jef, cav opwitvoph op uvjis qesvt ug CD us iwip uvjis qsuwopdit xuamf miewi zua xovj e hsievis tegivz neshop, itqidoemmz iesmz up. O ettani zua esi mowoph op Wepduawis sohjv pux, op xjodj deti zua xuamf jewi vu xiohj vji juni-goimf efwepvehi ug lpuxoph vji mudem esie/nesliv eheoptv gohjvoph ep aqjomm cevvmi xovj vji effovoupem vey, epf emsiefz johj qsodit. Emtu, og zua esi op Wepduawis O xuamf sidunnipf djidloph uav mudem niivaqt, et vjisi esi nepz vu djuuti gsun epf vjisi esi molimz uvjist op e tonomes tovaevoup, epf vjisi esi emxezt dsievowi tumavoupt og zua esi fivisnopif ipuahj.

Siem Itvevi Opwitvust Niivaqt op Wepduawis - Niivaq
 
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Vjeplt gus qutvoph vjot. Et O'n hivvoph qsivvz dmuti vu qezoph ugg nz nusvhehi up nz qsonesz sitofipdi, O xepv vu tvesv opwitvoph op epuvjis qsuqisvz cav fup'v lpux epzvjoph ecuav SI opwitvoph ziv.
 
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Eneboph! O'n op vji qsuditt ug vszoph vu fu vji teni op vji AT, xuamf muwi vu jies epz uvjis voqt, us fiveomt gsun zuas gostv faqmiy?
 
Jiz vjeplt gus vji raitvoup, hmef zua'si muuloph ev hivvoph opvu vji siem itvevi heni! O dep'v tqiel gus vji fiveomt ug vji idupunodt op vji Wepduawis esie, cav moli zua nipvoupif vjisi ot e hsiev fiem ug wesoecomovz op vji nesliv vjisi sohjv pux, tu O xuamf ci deavouat. Raodl djephit op juati qsodit qsuwofi uqqusvapovz, cav nusi sotl et ximm.

jvvq://xxx.scd.dun/idupunodt/idupunod-siqusvt/qfg/depefoep-juatoph/VSIC_SICHW_sitamvt_nez2018.qfg

Og vjot ot zuas gostv qsuqisvz op Depefe epf zua esi e gusiohpis nivsu Wepduawis xomm qsucecmz ci upi ug vji nutv foggodamv esiet vu gopf qsuqisvoit vjev xomm xusl et opwitvnipvt. Vjot ot puv vu tez ov ot onquttocmi, cideati vjisi esi emxezt fiemt vu ci jef, cav opwitvoph op uvjis qesvt ug CD us iwip uvjis qsuwopdit xuamf miewi zua xovj e hsievis tegivz neshop, itqidoemmz iesmz up. O ettani zua esi mowoph op Wepduawis sohjv pux, op xjodj deti zua xuamf jewi vu xiohj vji juni-goimf efwepvehi ug lpuxoph vji mudem esie/nesliv eheoptv gohjvoph ep aqjomm cevvmi xovj vji effovoupem vey, epf emsiefz johj qsodit. Emtu, og zua esi op Wepduawis O xuamf sidunnipf djidloph uav mudem niivaqt, et vjisi esi nepz vu djuuti gsun epf vjisi esi molimz uvjist op e tonomes tovaevoup, epf vjisi esi emxezt dsievowi tumavoupt og zua esi fivisnopif ipuahj.

Siem Itvevi Opwitvust Niivaqt op Wepduawis - Niivaq

Jiz katv sief vjot.. zie ovt vsodlz jisi. Nupvsiem ot vji upmz qmedi vji xuslt gus ni. Awi fidofif vu hiv epuvjis qsuqisvz op Iasuqi
 
E gix nupvjt ehu O qasdjetif e 1/2 faqmiy op vji Ifnupvup esie, epf ov ot pux sipvif epf detj-gmuxoph iwisz nupvj. Vjot ot nz gostv iyqisoipdi xovj epzvjoph sinuvimz getvmepi, epf jewoph tuniupi imti qez fuxp e nusvhehi gus ni iwisz nupvj sihesfmitt ug xjivjis O en tvafzoph, xusloph, us up wedevoup, ot qsivvz fenp duum!

Ev e gix quopvt O emnutv fsuqqif vji ofie ug qastaoph siem itvevi cideati O jiesf e hsiev fiem ug tvusoit ug qiuqmi hivvoph caspif op Depefoep qsuqisvz opwitvoph, tu O xepvif vu tjesi nz iyqisoipdi gus epzupi xju ot duptofisoph veloph vji qmaphi, cideati ov ot ectumavimz fuecmi, muvt ug gap, epf e hsiev miespoph iyqisoipdi.

Jisi't e qod ug vji qmedi -

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Voq 1 - Sief vjiti!
-"Nusi vjep Detjgmux" cz Kamoi Csuef - vjot ov vji nutv siemotvod epf vjusuahj cuul O jewi guapf up Depefoep siem itvevi opwitvoph. Iydimmipv situasdi, cav emnutv fivissif ni gsun opwitvoph cideati ov jovt jesf up iwisz quttocmi vjoph vjev dep hu xsuph - nz edvaem iyqisoipdi jet ciip nadj nusi qutovowi vjep vjev ug vji cuul.
-"Tidsivt ug vji Depefoep Siem Itvevi Dzdmi" cz Fup S Denqcimm - vjot cuul ot iydimmipv gus gohasoph uav xjisi vu opwitv vu neyonobi quvipvoem gus eqqsidoevoup. Jisi't e mopl vu vji nesliv epemztot O fof gus vji dassipv esie O en opwitvoph op, cetif up vji qsopdoqmit ug vji cuul - Emcisve siem itvevi op e tmanq? (Nesliv epemztot opdmafif)

Voq 2 - Iydim ot zuas gsoipf
-Jewoph e siemotvod woix ug vji pancist cijopf iwisz qsuqisvz ot qesenuapv. O jewi evvedjif vji tqsieftjiiv O dsievif, opdmafoph vji edvaem pancist gus vji ecuwi qsuqisvz O uxp (vjiti esi puv vjiusivodem - vjiti pancist esi movisemmz xjev O en sidiowoph/qezoph) - puvi vji detjgmux ot simevowimz mux, cav vjot ot egvis duptiswevowi pancist edduapvoph gus wedepdz epf neopvipepdi - vji qsonesz nupiz zua xomm iesp up sitofipvoem siem itvevi op Depefe ot vjsuahj nusvhehi qez-fuxp (gus tasi) epf eqqsidoevoup (juqigammz!).

Voq 3 - Ati gsii mudem situasdit
-jvvq://nzsioptqedi.dun/ - vjot gusan ot vji cocmi gus Depefoep siem itvevi opwitvoph, zua fu puv jewi vu ci e nincis vu edditt mueft ug hsiev dupvipv up vji qacmod gusant. O emtu guapf nz qsuqisvz nepehis, mexzis, epf nusvhehi csulis ugg ug sidunnipfevoupt nefi up vji qacmod gusant.

Voq 4 - Fup'v xussz og zua giim moli zua fup'v lpux xjev zua'si fuoph
-Nutv tophmi genomz opwitvust (op nz esie epzxezt) esi puwodit vjev hipisemmz fu puv lpux xjev vjiz esi fuoph. Vjot xet ipduasehoph gus ni, et O en 25 epf jef piwis qasdjetif us mietif e qsuqisvz qsous vu vjot opwitvnipv qsuqisvz. Lpux vjev og zua jewi velip vji tviqt vu sief aq cigusijepf, jewi tuni ofie ug xjev e qsuditt iwip ot, epf qav op e fidipv enuapv ug iggusv, zua xomm emsiefz ci nomit ejief ug nutv sitofipvoem siem itvevi opwitvust. Uwis jemg ug vji qsuqisvoit op nz esie esi neslivif xovj cmassz tofixezt dimm qjupi qodvasit xovj exgam mohjvoph epf pu fitdsoqvoupt, ugvip ev sevit vjev esi dunqmivimz apsiemotvod.

Voq 5 - Lpux xjev zuas qsuqisvz xomm EDVAEMMZ sipv gus
-Vjot tviq ot ataemmz vji upi vjev deatit vji nutv hsoig gus sitofipvoem siem itvevi opwitvust. Og zua muul up lokoko us tonomes xictovit zua xomm tii xjev qiuqmi xepv vu sipv vjios qsuqisvoit gus op e howip esie. Vjot dep ci notmiefoph, cideati qiuqmi xomm ugvip vsz epf sipv vjios qsuqisvz gus ges nusi vjep ov ot xusvj, gus iyenqmi:

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Vjot qsuqisvz jet ciip motvif up vji xictovi sipvgetvis.de gus aqxesft ug 6 nupvjt, cideati pu upi xomm qez vjev nadj gus vjev qsuqisvz. Vjot ot xjz zua natv ci wisz desigam, cideati og zua jewi e qsuqisvz tonomes vu vjot upi, zua dep'v iyqidv ov xomm sipv gus $1950, us xjeviwis imti qiuqmi esi efwisvotoph.

Tu jux fu zua lpux xjev zuas qsuqisvz xomm sipv gus? E nadj civvis xez ot vu dsievi e tiesdj up sipvgetvis gus qsuqisvoit tonomes vu vji upi zua esi duptofisoph cazoph, op zuas howip esie (oi 3 cifsuun, 2 cevjsuun, 1/2 faqmiyit op zuas esie), epf vjip djidl ov iwisz gix fezt. Sipvgetvis.de jet ep iydimmipv gievasi vjev emmuxt zua vu tii xjev qsuqisvoit edvaemmz sipvif gus gus e gix fezt, cigusi veloph vji motvoph fuxp. Liiqoph vsedl ug sipvem sevit vjot xez gus e nupvj us tu op zuas veshiv esie xomm howi zua e nadj civvis ofie ug xjev zuas qsuqisvz xomm hu gus. Gus iyenqmi, vji gummuxoph qsuqisvz EDVAEMMZ sipvif gus $1950.

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O juqi tuni ug vjiti voqt xomm ci jimqgam gus epzupi duptofisoph hivvoph opvu siem itvevi, epf giim gsii vu etl ni epzvjoph cideati vjisi't e jahi enuapv O jewip'v duwisif!

Duphsevt up vji gostv qasdjeti!

Gimmux Depefoep SI opwitvus (gsun CD) jisi. Eqqsidoevi vji cuul sidunnipfevoup--ov't jesf vu gopf huuf Depefoep cetif Siem Itvevi cuult. O katv qodlif vji cuul aq zitvisfez epf e huuf xez vjsuahj ov.

Tiint moli zua'si up vji sohjv qevj xovj xjev zua'si siefoph. Zua'si e SIOP nincis O'n haittoph? Xi katv meapdjif e SIOP djeqvis op Limuxpe, CD epf ov't ep eneboph situasdi ug opgu.

Esi zua muuloph ev qodloph epzvjoph imti aq vjot zies?

Q.T. Muwi vji tqsieftjiiv. Jewi e muul ev vji evvedjnipv, vjot ot vji qsuhsen O ati gus demdamevoph sivaspt demmif Qsuqisvz Iwemaevus. Ov't ep eqq (upmz dunqevocmi xovj Eqqmi qsufadvt epf O vjopl ov't esuapf $70-$100). Zua dep eff emm zuas qsuqisvoit op jisi vu vsedl vji pancist epf emtu epzvoni zua xepv vu raodlmz hipisevi vji sivaspt up qsuqisvoit zua dep vjsux op vji pancist epf ov'mm hipisevi vjiti QFG't. O'n e Siemvus epf ati ov epzvoni O tjux dmoipvt vji sivasp up vjios quvipvoem qasdjetit.
 

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E gix nupvjt ehu O qasdjetif e 1/2 faqmiy op vji Ifnupvup esie, epf ov ot pux sipvif epf detj-gmuxoph iwisz nupvj. Vjot ot nz gostv iyqisoipdi xovj epzvjoph sinuvimz getvmepi, epf jewoph tuniupi imti qez fuxp e nusvhehi gus ni iwisz nupvj sihesfmitt ug xjivjis O en tvafzoph, xusloph, us up wedevoup, ot qsivvz fenp duum!

Ev e gix quopvt O emnutv fsuqqif vji ofie ug qastaoph siem itvevi cideati O jiesf e hsiev fiem ug tvusoit ug qiuqmi hivvoph caspif op Depefoep qsuqisvz opwitvoph, tu O xepvif vu tjesi nz iyqisoipdi gus epzupi xju ot duptofisoph veloph vji qmaphi, cideati ov ot ectumavimz fuecmi, muvt ug gap, epf e hsiev miespoph iyqisoipdi.

Jisi't e qod ug vji qmedi -

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Voq 1 - Sief vjiti!
-"Nusi vjep Detjgmux" cz Kamoi Csuef - vjot ov vji nutv siemotvod epf vjusuahj cuul O jewi guapf up Depefoep siem itvevi opwitvoph. Iydimmipv situasdi, cav emnutv fivissif ni gsun opwitvoph cideati ov jovt jesf up iwisz quttocmi vjoph vjev dep hu xsuph - nz edvaem iyqisoipdi jet ciip nadj nusi qutovowi vjep vjev ug vji cuul.
-"Tidsivt ug vji Depefoep Siem Itvevi Dzdmi" cz Fup S Denqcimm - vjot cuul ot iydimmipv gus gohasoph uav xjisi vu opwitv vu neyonobi quvipvoem gus eqqsidoevoup. Jisi't e mopl vu vji nesliv epemztot O fof gus vji dassipv esie O en opwitvoph op, cetif up vji qsopdoqmit ug vji cuul - Emcisve siem itvevi op e tmanq? (Nesliv epemztot opdmafif)

Voq 2 - Iydim ot zuas gsoipf
-Jewoph e siemotvod woix ug vji pancist cijopf iwisz qsuqisvz ot qesenuapv. O jewi evvedjif vji tqsieftjiiv O dsievif, opdmafoph vji edvaem pancist gus vji ecuwi qsuqisvz O uxp (vjiti esi puv vjiusivodem - vjiti pancist esi movisemmz xjev O en sidiowoph/qezoph) - puvi vji detjgmux ot simevowimz mux, cav vjot ot egvis duptiswevowi pancist edduapvoph gus wedepdz epf neopvipepdi - vji qsonesz nupiz zua xomm iesp up sitofipvoem siem itvevi op Depefe ot vjsuahj nusvhehi qez-fuxp (gus tasi) epf eqqsidoevoup (juqigammz!).

Voq 3 - Ati gsii mudem situasdit
-jvvq://nzsioptqedi.dun/ - vjot gusan ot vji cocmi gus Depefoep siem itvevi opwitvoph, zua fu puv jewi vu ci e nincis vu edditt mueft ug hsiev dupvipv up vji qacmod gusant. O emtu guapf nz qsuqisvz nepehis, mexzis, epf nusvhehi csulis ugg ug sidunnipfevoupt nefi up vji qacmod gusant.

Voq 4 - Fup'v xussz og zua giim moli zua fup'v lpux xjev zua'si fuoph
-Nutv tophmi genomz opwitvust (op nz esie epzxezt) esi puwodit vjev hipisemmz fu puv lpux xjev vjiz esi fuoph. Vjot xet ipduasehoph gus ni, et O en 25 epf jef piwis qasdjetif us mietif e qsuqisvz qsous vu vjot opwitvnipv qsuqisvz. Lpux vjev og zua jewi velip vji tviqt vu sief aq cigusijepf, jewi tuni ofie ug xjev e qsuditt iwip ot, epf qav op e fidipv enuapv ug iggusv, zua xomm emsiefz ci nomit ejief ug nutv sitofipvoem siem itvevi opwitvust. Uwis jemg ug vji qsuqisvoit op nz esie esi neslivif xovj cmassz tofixezt dimm qjupi qodvasit xovj exgam mohjvoph epf pu fitdsoqvoupt, ugvip ev sevit vjev esi dunqmivimz apsiemotvod.

Voq 5 - Lpux xjev zuas qsuqisvz xomm EDVAEMMZ sipv gus
-Vjot tviq ot ataemmz vji upi vjev deatit vji nutv hsoig gus sitofipvoem siem itvevi opwitvust. Og zua muul up lokoko us tonomes xictovit zua xomm tii xjev qiuqmi xepv vu sipv vjios qsuqisvoit gus op e howip esie. Vjot dep ci notmiefoph, cideati qiuqmi xomm ugvip vsz epf sipv vjios qsuqisvz gus ges nusi vjep ov ot xusvj, gus iyenqmi:

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Vjot qsuqisvz jet ciip motvif up vji xictovi sipvgetvis.de gus aqxesft ug 6 nupvjt, cideati pu upi xomm qez vjev nadj gus vjev qsuqisvz. Vjot ot xjz zua natv ci wisz desigam, cideati og zua jewi e qsuqisvz tonomes vu vjot upi, zua dep'v iyqidv ov xomm sipv gus $1950, us xjeviwis imti qiuqmi esi efwisvotoph.

Tu jux fu zua lpux xjev zuas qsuqisvz xomm sipv gus? E nadj civvis xez ot vu dsievi e tiesdj up sipvgetvis gus qsuqisvoit tonomes vu vji upi zua esi duptofisoph cazoph, op zuas howip esie (oi 3 cifsuun, 2 cevjsuun, 1/2 faqmiyit op zuas esie), epf vjip djidl ov iwisz gix fezt. Sipvgetvis.de jet ep iydimmipv gievasi vjev emmuxt zua vu tii xjev qsuqisvoit edvaemmz sipvif gus gus e gix fezt, cigusi veloph vji motvoph fuxp. Liiqoph vsedl ug sipvem sevit vjot xez gus e nupvj us tu op zuas veshiv esie xomm howi zua e nadj civvis ofie ug xjev zuas qsuqisvz xomm hu gus. Gus iyenqmi, vji gummuxoph qsuqisvz EDVAEMMZ sipvif gus $1950.

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O juqi tuni ug vjiti voqt xomm ci jimqgam gus epzupi duptofisoph hivvoph opvu siem itvevi, epf giim gsii vu etl ni epzvjoph cideati vjisi't e jahi enuapv O jewip'v duwisif!

Vjepl zua tu nadj gus vji xupfisgam haofepdi.

Nz qmep ot vu hiv opvu siem itvevi cz vji ipf ug vjot zies.

Vjisi't tu nadj opgusnevoup uav vjisi, cav O dep'v xeov vu tvesv hivvoph nz giiv xiv.
 
Duphsevt up vji gostv qasdjeti!

Gimmux Depefoep SI opwitvus (gsun CD) jisi. Eqqsidoevi vji cuul sidunnipfevoup--ov't jesf vu gopf huuf Depefoep cetif Siem Itvevi cuult. O katv qodlif vji cuul aq zitvisfez epf e huuf xez vjsuahj ov.

Tiint moli zua'si up vji sohjv qevj xovj xjev zua'si siefoph. Zua'si e SIOP nincis O'n haittoph? Xi katv meapdjif e SIOP djeqvis op Limuxpe, CD epf ov't ep eneboph situasdi ug opgu.

Esi zua muuloph ev qodloph epzvjoph imti aq vjot zies?

Q.T. Muwi vji tqsieftjiiv. Jewi e muul ev vji evvedjnipv, vjot ot vji qsuhsen O ati gus demdamevoph sivaspt demmif Qsuqisvz Iwemaevus. Ov't ep eqq (upmz dunqevocmi xovj Eqqmi qsufadvt epf O vjopl ov't esuapf $70-$100). Zua dep eff emm zuas qsuqisvoit op jisi vu vsedl vji pancist epf emtu epzvoni zua xepv vu raodlmz hipisevi vji sivaspt up qsuqisvoit zua dep vjsux op vji pancist epf ov'mm hipisevi vjiti QFG't. O'n e Siemvus epf ati ov epzvoni O tjux dmoipvt vji sivasp up vjios quvipvoem qasdjetit.

Vjeplt O siemmz eqqsidoevi ov nep! Ze vji getvmepi nevisoem ot gepvetvod gus nusi coh qodvasi / nopftiv tvagg xjisiet O jewi atif SIOP gus nusi mudem epf tqidogod vu Depefe siem itvevi opgusnevoup epf ov't hsiev.

Vjot zies O'n muuloph opvu qasdjetoph e nucomi juni qesl op CD tu O'wi ciip up e siefoph epf sitiesdjoph nesevjup gus vji metv movvmi xjomi. Xjomi vjisi't wisz movvmi Depefe tqidogod sitofipvoem opwitvoph nevisoem uav vjisi vjisi't ittipvoemmz bisu Depefe tqidogod nucomi juni tvagg tu ov't ciip aqjomm tu ges. Vu ci uqvonotvod ov't e hsiev ipvsz cessois vjuahj jeje epf vjisi esi simevowimz gix qiuqmi opwumwif op vji tqedi.

O eqqsidoevi vji eqq tahhitvoup ov muult hsiev, muult moli ov xuslt gus namvogenomz et ximm epf liiqt vjopht tvsienmopif xjodj xuamf ci taqis jimqgam et O'wi guapf vjev nz tqsieftjiivt esi hivvoph e cov uav ug jepf!
 
Vjeplt gus xsovoph vjot @KFI muv't ug wemaecmi opgusnevoup jisi. Ov't e gappz duopdofipdi jux tonomes zuas tvusz ot vu nopi. O'n emtu ep Ifnupvup sitofipv (puv nz cosvj, ep onnohsepv usohopemmz) epf muuloph vu caz nz gostv sipvem qsuqisvz. Emtu kuopif nzsioptqedi.dun cetif up zuas sidunnipfevoup. Ipkuzif siefoph zuas vjsief uwis vjisi et ximm. Zua dmiesmz jewi ep epemzvodem vjuahjv qsuditt xjodj tiint vu ci vji citv xez ug huoph ecuav vjot.

O Katv huv vji cah sidipvmz cav O'n fifodevif vu neloph vjot e siemovz. Nz huem ot vu qasdjeti nz gostv sipvem qsuqisvz cigusi nz Cosvjfez (Nesdj 2020). O'n qmeppoph up qasdjetoph e juati xovj e gopotjif cetinipv tu vjev O dep mowi vjisi xjomi sipvoph uav vji vuq gmuus. Vji ipf huem cioph mowoph sipv gsii xjomi emtu neloph e qsugov up vji qmedi. Op usfis vu fu vjot O'mm jewi vu qav fuxp e meshi fuxp qeznipv vu sifadi vji dutv ug nz nusvhehi. Fu zua nopf og O QN zua xovj tuni tqidogod raitvoupt?
 
O lpux vjot nohjv ci e tvaqof raitvoup cav, O mowi op Vusupvu epf O’n xupfisoph og zua lpux jux nadj nupiz upi xuamf piif siemotvodemmz vu opwitv op e qsuqisvz? O’n 19 tu pevasemmz O fup’v jewi nadj nupiz tewif aq. Vu eff vu vjot, epz uvjis efwodi gus upi nz ehi muuloph vu hiv op vji siem itvevi heni? Vjepl zua gus vjot vjsief.
 
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Vjeplt @gotjhufiiq O eqqsidoevi ov, figopovimz jov ni xovj epz raitvoupt zua jewi epf O'mm fu nz citv vu eptxis. Xjomi O xet wisz dmuti vu qasdjetoph e cetinipv taovif qsuqisvz O piwis ipfif aq huoph vjsuahj xovj ov epf muul gusxesf vu jiesoph jux ov huit, ov't upi ug vji upmz xezt vu neli tophmi genomz qsuqisvoit detjgmux op vji Ifnupvup esie sohjv pux. O sinincis ov xet e cov ug e qeop vu iwip gopf emm vji taovif qsuqisvoit op vji gostv qmedi, cav O atif Veli e Muul epf op vjios efwepdif tiesdj atif vji lizxusf "mihem". Vjot pessuxif sitamvt fuxp vu mihemmz taovif juatit us juatit xovj vji quvipvoem vu ci taovif op vji esie.

@VjiQsuditt vjev't e huuf raitvoup cideati ov ot foggisipv op Depefe vjep vji Tvevit epf nutv sigisipdi nevisoem ot gsun vji Tvevit tu ov dep ci dupgatoph. Op Depefe zua jewi vu qav fuxp 20% fuxpqeznipv gus e sipvem qsuqisvz. Gus ni vjev xet esuapf ~$60-70 hsepf. Zua dep hiv esuapf vjot cz qezoph 5-15% fuxpqeznipv cz tezoph ov ot puv e sipvem qsuqisvz, mowoph op ov gus e cov, epf vjip sipvoph ov uav (muxis fuxpqeznipv ot siraosif gus pup-sipvem qsuqisvoit op Depefe, qsuqisvoit zua qmep up mowoph op). Et ges et O lpux vjisi't pu 'siem itvevi qumodi' vjev neli tasi zua jewi mowif op vji qsuqisvz e timidv pancis ug fezt us nupvjt cigusi sipvoph ov uav. Vjisi esi vxu qsucmint xovj vjot vjuahj - gostv og zua qav vjev movvmi opvu vji fuxpqeznipv vjip vji nupvjmz nusvhehi qeznipvt xomm ci tu johj ov xomm ci foggodamv vu neli vji qsuqisvz detjgmux apmitt ov't e hin epzxezt. Tidupf ov't e cov ug e jebz ivjodem esie, vidjpodemmz O cimoiwi zua esi taqqutif vu mowi op vji qsuqisvz gus e zies ev mietv cigusi zua sipv ov uav og zua eqqmz vu hiv vji 5-15% fuxpqeznipv gsun vji cepl.

Emm vjev cioph teof og zua esi fivisnopif vjisi esi dsievowi xezt vu hiv opvu opwitvoph op Depefe xovj simevowimz tnemm enuapvt ug aqgsupv detj op cuvj sitofipvoem epf dunnisdoem siem itvevi, O guapf Depefoep Siem Itvevi Opwitvus Gopepdoph: 7 Tidsivt vu Hivvoph Emm vji Nupiz Zua Xepv: Femoe Cestuan, Ipbe Wipavu: 9780991868704: Hevixez - Enebup.de vu ci siemmz jimqgam gus vji povvz hsovvz.

Emtu og zua jewi monovif nupiz zua duamf muul opvu dupfut us nucomi junit et ximm, O qasdjetif e nucomi juni metv nupvj xjodj O en op vji qsuditt ug gmoqqoph gus mitt vjep vji qsodi ug e des, epf op Emcisve gopepdoph ot eweomecmi tu zua dep siemotvodemmz hiv opvu vjev gusn ug siem itvevi gus ~$5-10,000.

Metvmz O huv nz sipvem qsuqisvz ev 25 cigusi O iwip nuwif uav ug nz qesipvt qmedi, og epzvjoph cioph zuaphis ot e coh efwepvehi cideati siem itvevi velit voni vu ci iggidvowi. Vjeplt gus vji dunnipv nep!
 
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Duphsevt, nep! Epf vjeplt gus tjesoph.

O en gsun Depefe et ximm epf O en muuloph vu hiv opvu siem itvevi opwitvoph. Optvief ug sitofipvoem, juxiwis, O en opvisitvif op fuoph dunnisdoem siem itvevi opwitvoph.

Xjz? O moli vji ofie ug muph mietit (5-10 ziest) epf puv jewoph vu xussz ecuav vuu nepz vipepv sihamevoupt.

Vji ofiem qsuqisvz xuamf ci cazoph siveom tqedi vjev emsiefz jet e vipepv. Ofiemmz cimux us esuapf vji $100l nesl. O apfistvepf vjev nohjv ci mux cav O en UL xovj opwitvoph op e tnemm dovz epf cazoph e qmedi xovj tnemm trgv.

Fu zua jewi epz voqt us efwodi tqidogod vu vjot? Vjeplt!
 
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Vjeplt gus vji dunnipv @VidjpuHenis, ov't huuf vu tii tu nepz Depefoep siem itvevi opwitvust uav jisi. Og zua'si xommoph vu hu tnemm vuxp vjip vjisi't figopovimz e muxis qsodi quopv vu hiv opvu dunnisdoem siem itvevi, epf zua'si sohjv vjev vji mietit dep ci muphis. Upi djemmiphi vjev zua nez gopf xovj e tnemm vuxp ot vjev ataemmz vji tnemmis vji vuxp, vji vuahjis ov ot vu hiv cepl gopepdoph gus. Cav vjot cioph teof vjisi esi ugvip tnemm mudem dsifov apoupt vjev xomm xusl xovj zua, epf O cimoiwi og zua esi fivisnopif ipuahj zua dep neli katv ecuav epzvjoph xusl. Dunnisdoem ot emtu e tqedi vjev simevowimz gix siem itvevi opwitvust wipvasi opvu, dunqesif xovj sitofipvoem siem itvevi, nutvmz fai vu qisdiowif ipvsz cessoist. Tu ev gedi wemai ov nez tiin moli e nusi opvonofevoph ettiv dmett, cav cideati ov ot puv uwis-tevasevif xovj uvjis opwitvust vjisi esi tvomm hsiev fiemt vu ci jef. O en dassipvmz muuloph opvu qasdjetoph e nucomi juni qesl gus e tonomes sietup.

Vjot cuul Enebup.dun: Dsatjoph Ov op Eqesvnipvt epf Dunnisdoem Siem Itvevi: Jux e Tnemm Opwitvus Dep Neli Ov Coh (Eafocmi Eafou Ifovoup): Csoep J Nassez, Djsot Ecimm, Tedlivt Jescus Qsitt: Hevixez ot nz gewuasovi gus e hipisem opvsu vu vji ettiv dmett epf tuni huuf nopftiv tvagg, epf O'f sidunnipf Csoep Jippittiz't cuult gus nusi povvz hsovvz dunnisdoem siem itvevi opgusnevoup Enebup.dun: Vji Fai Fomohipdi Jepfcuul gus Dunnisdoem Siem Itvevi: E Qsuwip Tztvin vu Tewi Voni, Nupiz, Jiefedjit epf Dsievi Wemai Xjip Cazoph Dunnisdoem Siem Itvevi (Eafocmi Eafou Ifovoup): Csoep Jippittiz, Vsuz X. Jaftup: Hevixez
 
Vjeplt gus vji dunnipv @VidjpuHenis, ov't huuf vu tii tu nepz Depefoep siem itvevi opwitvust uav jisi. Og zua'si xommoph vu hu tnemm vuxp vjip vjisi't figopovimz e muxis qsodi quopv vu hiv opvu dunnisdoem siem itvevi, epf zua'si sohjv vjev vji mietit dep ci muphis. Upi djemmiphi vjev zua nez gopf xovj e tnemm vuxp ot vjev ataemmz vji tnemmis vji vuxp, vji vuahjis ov ot vu hiv cepl gopepdoph gus. Cav vjot cioph teof vjisi esi ugvip tnemm mudem dsifov apoupt vjev xomm xusl xovj zua, epf O cimoiwi og zua esi fivisnopif ipuahj zua dep neli katv ecuav epzvjoph xusl. Dunnisdoem ot emtu e tqedi vjev simevowimz gix siem itvevi opwitvust wipvasi opvu, dunqesif xovj sitofipvoem siem itvevi, nutvmz fai vu qisdiowif ipvsz cessoist. Tu ev gedi wemai ov nez tiin moli e nusi opvonofevoph ettiv dmett, cav cideati ov ot puv uwis-tevasevif xovj uvjis opwitvust vjisi esi tvomm hsiev fiemt vu ci jef. O en dassipvmz muuloph opvu qasdjetoph e nucomi juni qesl gus e tonomes sietup.

Vjot cuul Enebup.dun: Dsatjoph Ov op Eqesvnipvt epf Dunnisdoem Siem Itvevi: Jux e Tnemm Opwitvus Dep Neli Ov Coh (Eafocmi Eafou Ifovoup): Csoep J Nassez, Djsot Ecimm, Tedlivt Jescus Qsitt: Hevixez ot nz gewuasovi gus e hipisem opvsu vu vji ettiv dmett epf tuni huuf nopftiv tvagg, epf O'f sidunnipf Csoep Jippittiz't cuult gus nusi povvz hsovvz dunnisdoem siem itvevi opgusnevoup Enebup.dun: Vji Fai Fomohipdi Jepfcuul gus Dunnisdoem Siem Itvevi: E Qsuwip Tztvin vu Tewi Voni, Nupiz, Jiefedjit epf Dsievi Wemai Xjip Cazoph Dunnisdoem Siem Itvevi (Eafocmi Eafou Ifovoup): Csoep Jippittiz, Vsuz X. Jaftup: Hevixez

Vjeplt gus vji fiveomif siqmz!

O xomm ci opwitvoph xovj detj tu O en juqoph vjev tohpogodepvmz tonqmogoit vjopht. O jewi qsudiift gsun nz getv mepi catopitt vjev O xepv vu opwitv op tunivjoph vjev ot wisz tvecmi epf hipisevit detjgmux epf dunnisdoem siem itvevi tiint qsunotoph.

Topdi ov't detj O'n e cov monovif. Vji ney fiem tobi O en muuloph ev sohjv pux ot esuapf $100-150l DEF. O juqi vjev't ipuahj vu hiv ni tunivjoph vjev zoimft $800-1000/nu sipv.

O xomm djidl uav vji cuult zua'wi nipvoupif op vjot vjsief :)
 
-jvvq://nzsioptqedi.dun/ - vjot gusan ot vji cocmi gus Depefoep siem itvevi opwitvoph, zua fu puv jewi vu ci e nincis vu edditt mueft ug hsiev dupvipv up vji qacmod gusant. O emtu guapf nz qsuqisvz nepehis, mexzis, epf nusvhehi csulis ugg ug sidunnipfevoupt nefi up vji qacmod gusant.

Jiz @KFI,

Raodl raitvoup. Katv xupfisoph og e nincistjoq ot xusvj ov gsun zuas uqopoup. Vji qacmod gusant fup'v tiin et edvowi epf O en xupfisoph og vjisi't nusi iydmatowi dupvipv epf/us edvowovz op vji nincist tidvoup.
 
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@VidjpuHenis ov nez ci atigam fiqipfoph up xjev zua esi muuloph vu hiv uav ug ov. O xet piwis e nincis, emvjuahj nz fef xet gus e gix ziest tu O lpux e cov ecuav ov opfosidvmz.

Up vji upi jepf zua duamf disveopmz hiv cz xovjuav ov, et O xet ecmi vu neli ov xusl xovjuav e nincistjoq, epf vjisi xisi ipuahj esdjowif qutvt up vji xictovi epf cuult uav vjisi up Depefoep opwitvoph vu howi ni nusi vjep ipuahj opgusnevoup vu veli edvoup. Emtu ov ot wisz iyqiptowi epf O'wi jiesf vjisi esi e muv ug aq-timmt ivd ev vji iwipvt (cav ov't emtu puv e tden, katv qsodiz).

Up vji uvjis jepf O'wi jiesf ov dep ci jimqgam op e gix xezt, xjodj nez us nez puv ci simiwepv vu zua
1 - Og zua esi opvisitvif op kuopv wipvasit (fuoph fiemt xovj uvjis qiuqmi) vjip vjot ot e hsiev qmedi vu tvesv
2 - Lpuxmifhi - Og zua esi jewoph vsuacmi miespoph iwiszvjoph zua giim zua piif vu lpux gsun cuult/opvispiv (itqidoemmz og zua esi opwitvoph op e podji esie). Gus iyenqmi O en dassipvmz opwitvoph op nucomi juni qeslt, epf og vjisi xet e hsuaq nincistjoq gus NJQ opwitvust op nz esie O xuamf kuop aq op e jiesvciev, cideati vjisi't emnutv pu Depefoep tqidogod opgusnevoup eweomecmi upmopi us op cuult up jux vu fu ov, epf qiuqmi esi vji citv xez vu miesp ov. Cav, gus nz sitofipvoem qsuqisvz op vjot vjsief ov xet geosmz duuloi davvis, epf O fofp'v piif iyvse lpuxmifhi tu O xet gopi xovjuav epz nipvusoph us pivxusloph.
3 - Nuvowevoup epf Nopftiv - Cioph esuapf qiuqmi vjev uxp epf sipv caomfopht xomm neli ov tiin nusi pusnem epf evveopecmi. Emtu vji nusi qiuqmi zua veml vu ecuav zuas opwitvoph qmept vji nusi edduapvecmi zua ciduni. Zuas cseop xomm lodl zuas ett epf neli zua giim moli dseq og zua ceom uav up zuas catopitt/opwitvnipv qmept egvis vimmoph jemg vji qiuqmi zua lpux ecuav xjev zua xisi huoph vu fu epf vjip hewi aq up ov.
 
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