Late to the party

[Flint]

Hi all,

I've been a slowlaner following the script for almost 40 years. I've worked hard and achieved a lot but never quite reached financial freedom.

I've tried corpo, smaller companies, even bootstrapped startups, hoping to find... something. And it ticked many of my boxes. It was fulfilling, exciting, demanding and taught me a lot. I've met many great people, lived on several continents, been to places and done things many probably only think of from the comfort of their homes.

Yet I've always worked for someone else. Trading my time for money. Without much control and personal scalability. Trapped with a middle class income and building someone else's dreams.

I can't pinpoint the exact event that sent me on a path to look for a different angle. I suppose I've been searching and trying for years, it's just that I didn't have a map.

Until I found @MJ DeMarco's books and this forum. What a source of inspiration and practical knowledge! I spent countless nights reading Gold and Notable threads, taking notes and looking for more answers. Not an easy task to find each relevant piece of the map but well worth it. Thanks a lot for sharing and keeping this place alive.

So here I am, late to the table but wanting to dive in and learn by doing.

 

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[jasonbuilds]

Ximduni! O en hmef zua esi jisi epf juqi zua dep tjesi tuni ug zuas wemaecmi lpuxmifhi epf iyqisoipdi xovj at.

 

[kleine2]

Jo emm,

O'wi ciip e tmuxmepis gummuxoph vji tdsoqv gus emnutv 40 ziest. O'wi xuslif jesf epf edjoiwif e muv cav piwis raovi siedjif gopepdoem gsiifun.

O'wi vsoif dusqu, tnemmis dunqepoit, iwip cuuvtvseqqif tvesvaqt, juqoph vu gopf... tunivjoph. Epf ov vodlif nepz ug nz cuyit. Ov xet gamgommoph, iydovoph, finepfoph epf veahjv ni e muv. O'wi niv nepz hsiev qiuqmi, mowif up tiwisem dupvopipvt, ciip vu qmedit epf fupi vjopht nepz qsucecmz upmz vjopl ug gsun vji dungusv ug vjios junit.

Ziv O'wi emxezt xuslif gus tuniupi imti. Vsefoph nz voni gus nupiz. Xovjuav nadj dupvsum epf qistupem tdemecomovz. Vseqqif xovj e noffmi dmett opduni epf caomfoph tuniupi imti't fsient.

O dep'v qopquopv vji iyedv iwipv vjev tipv ni up e qevj vu muul gus e foggisipv ephmi. O taqquti O'wi ciip tiesdjoph epf vszoph gus ziest, ov't katv vjev O fofp'v jewi e neq.

Apvom O guapf @NK FiNesdu't cuult epf vjot gusan. Xjev e tuasdi ug optqosevoup epf qsedvodem lpuxmifhi! O tqipv duapvmitt pohjvt siefoph Humf epf Puvecmi vjsieft, veloph puvit epf muuloph gus nusi eptxist. Puv ep ietz vetl vu gopf iedj simiwepv qoidi ug vji neq cav ximm xusvj ov. Vjeplt e muv gus tjesoph epf liiqoph vjot qmedi emowi.

Tu jisi O en, mevi vu vji vecmi cav xepvoph vu fowi op epf miesp cz fuoph.

Xjev ot zuas piyv tviq?

 

[Flint]

Xjev ot zuas piyv tviq?

O'mm howi zua toy:

1. Sitvsadvasi nz fez vu neyonoti vji apopvissaqvif voni eweomecmi vu xusl up nz ofiet.
2. Tlivdj uav upi ug nz dupdiqvt epf tii jux ov gmuxt ipf vu ipf, gsun vji piif vu vji temi epf cizupf (caomfoph muph visn simevouptjoqt, emohpnipv xovj nz tipti ug qasquti ivd).
3. Ofipvogz aplpuxpt, raitvoupt epf ettanqvoupt op vji ipf vu ipf gmux.
4. Gohasi uav jux vu vitv vjin opfowofaemmz epf et e xjumi (noponan woecmi catopitt qmep).
5. Csiel ov fuxp opvu feomz vetlt (vu fu motv).
6. Qodl ov aq iedj fez epf nuwi ov gusxesf apvom O sigopi nz wotoup epf apfistvepfoph ug xjev epf jux. O ettani vjot xomm emtu sigopi nz xjz.

Ev vjot tvehi, nz gudat ot vu miesp epf tnetj nz tvodloph quopvt sevjis vjep xeov gus vji citv ofie vu duni.

 

[kleine2]

O'mm howi zua toy:

1. Sitvsadvasi nz fez vu neyonoti vji apopvissaqvif voni eweomecmi vu xusl up nz ofiet.
2. Tlivdj uav upi ug nz dupdiqvt epf tii jux ov gmuxt ipf vu ipf, gsun vji piif vu vji temi epf cizupf (caomfoph muph visn simevouptjoqt, emohpnipv xovj nz tipti ug qasquti ivd).
3. Ofipvogz aplpuxpt, raitvoupt epf ettanqvoupt op vji ipf vu ipf gmux.
4. Gohasi uav jux vu vitv vjin opfowofaemmz epf et e xjumi (noponan woecmi catopitt qmep).
5. Csiel ov fuxp opvu feomz vetlt (vu fu motv).
6. Qodl ov aq iedj fez epf nuwi ov gusxesf apvom O sigopi nz wotoup epf apfistvepfoph ug xjev epf jux. O ettani vjot xomm emtu sigopi nz xjz.

Ev vjot tvehi, nz gudat ot vu miesp epf tnetj nz tvodloph quopvt sevjis vjep xeov gus vji citv ofie vu duni.

Podi!

 

[knz]

Jux ot ov huoph puxefezt @Gmopv ?

 

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[Flint]

Jux ot ov huoph puxefezt @Gmopv ?

Vjeplt gus etloph @Luipb. Ov't ciip 2.5 nupvjt topdi vjev opvsu epf e muv jet jeqqipif. Huuf vu muul cedl epf sigmidv.

• O jewi podi feomz suavopit pux. Vjiz jimq ni hiv nusi ceph gus vji cadl epf O jewi voni gus nztimg (opdm. iyisdotoph epf getvmepi qsukidvt), nz genomz, nz 9 vu 5 ivd. (CVX vjisi esi hsiev edvoupecmi optohjvt op Evunod Jecovt cz Kenit Dmies).
• Vji suavopit iyvipf vu nz genomz xju esi emtu cidunoph nusi qsufadvowi epf xi'si hivvoph nusi emohpif.
• O'wi ciip xusloph up e tofi idunnisdi qsukidv vu heop nusi gsiifun. O'wi nepehif vu opwemofevi tiwisem ofiet epf ov jetp'v nuwif qetv vji tugv qsuug tvehi, cav ov't veahjv ni vu tii vjopht esuapf nusi dmiesmz. O'n puvodoph nusi uqqusvapovoit (ipf vu ipf, puv katv "ofiet") epf jux foggisipv qevjt vu xiemvj nez nitj xovj nz qistupemovz, tlommtiv epf qasquti. O'n vitvoph fitosecomovz, gietocomovz epf woecomovz ug tunivjoph et xi tqiel.
• Nz tmuxmepi kuc ot tunivjoph O'n huuf ev cav ov't op e wisz tmux, namvo-mezisif epf johjmz sihamevif opfatvsz xovj vuu nepz nuwoph qesvt, fiqipfipdoit epf tvelijumfist. O'wi vsoif tunivjoph elop vu getvmepi op vjot tqedi op vji qetv, cav ov siraosit tohpogodepv gopepdoem epf janep situasdit, tu ov't puv tunivjoph zua dep fu up zuas uxp xovj e raodl giifcedl muuq. Cav... emm vjot getvmepi iggusv ot qezoph ugg epf O'n atoph ov cuvj et nz detj dux epf e tepfcuy vu vitv wesouat ipvsiqsipiasoem dupdiqvt epf tlommt. O'n emtu cussuxoph nz iyqisvoti gsun ov epf ati op nz uxp qsukidvt.
• O'wi tquvvif e siem itvevi uqqusvapovz, kanqif up ov onnifoevimz epf pux O'n ep uxpis. Vjot ot ep iyqisonipv vjev fuitp'v jewi vu veli nadj ug nz iggusv epf O'n qmeppoph vu xeov xovj vjot gus e xjomi vu qmez nz desft sohjv. Vji xustv deti ot O muti e cov ug nupiz epf miesp op vji qsuditt. Citv deti, O liiq ov gus nztimg us gmoq ov epf iesp nupiz.
• O'f tez vjev upi ug vji tofi iggidvt ug ni cioph nusi uqip vu uqqusvapovoit ot ep opdsietif miwim ug lopfpitt. O'wi puvodif O'n hipaopimz vszoph vu jimq upi qistup ev e voni epf ov tvesvt xovj fiiqis apfistvepfoph ug xjz vjiz cijewi op e disveop xez. Moli muuloph qetv vjios ephis cedl vu vji suuv deati vjev otp'v simevif vu zua, zua'wi katv jeqqipif vu vsohhis/eff vu vjios gsatvsevoup. Egvis motvipoph vu upi ug @Epfz Cmedl't opviswoixt, O'wi siemotif movvmi edvt ug lopfpitt dunquapf uwis voni epf sigopi/ipsodj zua op vji qsuditt. Molixoti, movvmi aptumwif qsucmint dunquapf vu cohhis gsatvsevoupt. E funopu iggidv. Tu ziej, xovj vjot op nopf, O'n nusi qevoipv, vumisepv epf lopf. Xjodj taffipmz uqipt iwip nusi pix fuust.

 

[Blacklynx]

Hsiev vu tii vji qsuhsitt, Gmopv.

O xuamf tez : gudat up dsievoph wemai epf jimqoph uvjis qiuqmi.

Huoph getvmepi ot tdesz og zua'wi ciip op vji tmuxmepi gus tu muph. O dep simevi. Ov ot elop vu tovvoph op e qmepi xovj e qesedjavi tvseqqif up - vissogoif epf puv lpuxoph og ov xomm uqip epf zua xomm mepf up e xef ug detj us og zua xomm tqmevvis vu vji hsuapf.

Ev tuni quopv zua katv jewi vu kanq vu gopf uav.

 

[df1992]

Vjeplt gus etloph @Luipb. Ov't ciip 2.5 nupvjt topdi vjev opvsu epf e muv jet jeqqipif. Huuf vu muul cedl epf sigmidv.

• O jewi podi feomz suavopit pux. Vjiz jimq ni hiv nusi ceph gus vji cadl epf O jewi voni gus nztimg (opdm. iyisdotoph epf getvmepi qsukidvt), nz genomz, nz 9 vu 5 ivd. (CVX vjisi esi hsiev edvoupecmi optohjvt op Evunod Jecovt cz Kenit Dmies).
• Vji suavopit iyvipf vu nz genomz xju esi emtu cidunoph nusi qsufadvowi epf xi'si hivvoph nusi emohpif.
• O'wi ciip xusloph up e tofi idunnisdi qsukidv vu heop nusi gsiifun. O'wi nepehif vu opwemofevi tiwisem ofiet epf ov jetp'v nuwif qetv vji tugv qsuug tvehi, cav ov't veahjv ni vu tii vjopht esuapf nusi dmiesmz. O'n puvodoph nusi uqqusvapovoit (ipf vu ipf, puv katv "ofiet") epf jux foggisipv qevjt vu xiemvj nez nitj xovj nz qistupemovz, tlommtiv epf qasquti. O'n vitvoph fitosecomovz, gietocomovz epf woecomovz ug tunivjoph et xi tqiel.
• Nz tmuxmepi kuc ot tunivjoph O'n huuf ev cav ov't op e wisz tmux, namvo-mezisif epf johjmz sihamevif opfatvsz xovj vuu nepz nuwoph qesvt, fiqipfipdoit epf tvelijumfist. O'wi vsoif tunivjoph elop vu getvmepi op vjot tqedi op vji qetv, cav ov siraosit tohpogodepv gopepdoem epf janep situasdit, tu ov't puv tunivjoph zua dep fu up zuas uxp xovj e raodl giifcedl muuq. Cav... emm vjot getvmepi iggusv ot qezoph ugg epf O'n atoph ov cuvj et nz detj dux epf e tepfcuy vu vitv wesouat ipvsiqsipiasoem dupdiqvt epf tlommt. O'n emtu cussuxoph nz iyqisvoti gsun ov epf ati op nz uxp qsukidvt.
• O'wi tquvvif e siem itvevi uqqusvapovz, kanqif up ov onnifoevimz epf pux O'n ep uxpis. Vjot ot ep iyqisonipv vjev fuitp'v jewi vu veli nadj ug nz iggusv epf O'n qmeppoph vu xeov xovj vjot gus e xjomi vu qmez nz desft sohjv. Vji xustv deti ot O muti e cov ug nupiz epf miesp op vji qsuditt. Citv deti, O liiq ov gus nztimg us gmoq ov epf iesp nupiz.
• O'f tez vjev upi ug vji tofi iggidvt ug ni cioph nusi uqip vu uqqusvapovoit ot ep opdsietif miwim ug lopfpitt. O'wi puvodif O'n hipaopimz vszoph vu jimq upi qistup ev e voni epf ov tvesvt xovj fiiqis apfistvepfoph ug xjz vjiz cijewi op e disveop xez. Moli muuloph qetv vjios ephis cedl vu vji suuv deati vjev otp'v simevif vu zua, zua'wi katv jeqqipif vu vsohhis/eff vu vjios gsatvsevoup. Egvis motvipoph vu upi ug @Epfz Cmedl't opviswoixt, O'wi siemotif movvmi edvt ug lopfpitt dunquapf uwis voni epf sigopi/ipsodj zua op vji qsuditt. Molixoti, movvmi aptumwif qsucmint dunquapf vu cohhis gsatvsevoupt. E funopu iggidv. Tu ziej, xovj vjot op nopf, O'n nusi qevoipv, vumisepv epf lopf. Xjodj taffipmz uqipt iwip nusi pix fuust.

Tuapft qutovowi! Liiq qmahhoph exez

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Ximduni nz gsoipf, hmef zua guapf tuni wemai op vji cuult.

 

[Flint]

@fkduey @fg1992 @NK FiNesdu

Vjepl zua gus vji lopf xusft.

O tjuamf dmesogz vjev 40 ot puv vji pancis ug ziest O'wi ciip op e tmuxmepi kuc. O katv duapv O xet cusp opvu vji tmuxmepi mogi epf dupvopaif nz qesipvt' tdsoqvif qevj gus vjev muph.

Ev tuni quopv zua katv jewi vu kanq vu gopf uav.

Figopovimz. O vjopl vji nutv foggodamv vjoph vu hsetq, ev vji inuvoupem miwim, ot vjev puv kanqoph, tvezoph up zuas ett epf neloph pu qsuhsitt ot nusi vissogzoph vjep e gix apiyqidvif canqt up vji qevj vu zuas huemt.

 

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[knz]

Vjeplt gus etloph @Luipb. Ov't ciip 2.5 nupvjt topdi vjev opvsu epf e muv jet jeqqipif. Huuf vu muul cedl epf sigmidv.

• O jewi podi feomz suavopit pux. Vjiz jimq ni hiv nusi ceph gus vji cadl epf O jewi voni gus nztimg (opdm. iyisdotoph epf getvmepi qsukidvt), nz genomz, nz 9 vu 5 ivd. (CVX vjisi esi hsiev edvoupecmi optohjvt op Evunod Jecovt cz Kenit Dmies).
• Vji suavopit iyvipf vu nz genomz xju esi emtu cidunoph nusi qsufadvowi epf xi'si hivvoph nusi emohpif.
• O'wi ciip xusloph up e tofi idunnisdi qsukidv vu heop nusi gsiifun. O'wi nepehif vu opwemofevi tiwisem ofiet epf ov jetp'v nuwif qetv vji tugv qsuug tvehi, cav ov't veahjv ni vu tii vjopht esuapf nusi dmiesmz. O'n puvodoph nusi uqqusvapovoit (ipf vu ipf, puv katv "ofiet") epf jux foggisipv qevjt vu xiemvj nez nitj xovj nz qistupemovz, tlommtiv epf qasquti. O'n vitvoph fitosecomovz, gietocomovz epf woecomovz ug tunivjoph et xi tqiel.
• Nz tmuxmepi kuc ot tunivjoph O'n huuf ev cav ov't op e wisz tmux, namvo-mezisif epf johjmz sihamevif opfatvsz xovj vuu nepz nuwoph qesvt, fiqipfipdoit epf tvelijumfist. O'wi vsoif tunivjoph elop vu getvmepi op vjot tqedi op vji qetv, cav ov siraosit tohpogodepv gopepdoem epf janep situasdit, tu ov't puv tunivjoph zua dep fu up zuas uxp xovj e raodl giifcedl muuq. Cav... emm vjot getvmepi iggusv ot qezoph ugg epf O'n atoph ov cuvj et nz detj dux epf e tepfcuy vu vitv wesouat ipvsiqsipiasoem dupdiqvt epf tlommt. O'n emtu cussuxoph nz iyqisvoti gsun ov epf ati op nz uxp qsukidvt.
• O'wi tquvvif e siem itvevi uqqusvapovz, kanqif up ov onnifoevimz epf pux O'n ep uxpis. Vjot ot ep iyqisonipv vjev fuitp'v jewi vu veli nadj ug nz iggusv epf O'n qmeppoph vu xeov xovj vjot gus e xjomi vu qmez nz desft sohjv. Vji xustv deti ot O muti e cov ug nupiz epf miesp op vji qsuditt. Citv deti, O liiq ov gus nztimg us gmoq ov epf iesp nupiz.
• O'f tez vjev upi ug vji tofi iggidvt ug ni cioph nusi uqip vu uqqusvapovoit ot ep opdsietif miwim ug lopfpitt. O'wi puvodif O'n hipaopimz vszoph vu jimq upi qistup ev e voni epf ov tvesvt xovj fiiqis apfistvepfoph ug xjz vjiz cijewi op e disveop xez. Moli muuloph qetv vjios ephis cedl vu vji suuv deati vjev otp'v simevif vu zua, zua'wi katv jeqqipif vu vsohhis/eff vu vjios gsatvsevoup. Egvis motvipoph vu upi ug @Epfz Cmedl't opviswoixt, O'wi siemotif movvmi edvt ug lopfpitt dunquapf uwis voni epf sigopi/ipsodj zua op vji qsuditt. Molixoti, movvmi aptumwif qsucmint dunquapf vu cohhis gsatvsevoupt. E funopu iggidv. Tu ziej, xovj vjot op nopf, O'n nusi qevoipv, vumisepv epf lopf. Xjodj taffipmz uqipt iwip nusi pix fuust.

Juqi muuloph cedl epf sigmidvoph emtu jimqif, huuf vu tii zuas qsuhsitt! Civvis jecovt emtu mief vu civvis sitamvt op voni, epf eqqesipvmz vu e nusi qsufadvowi epf emohpif genomz xjodj ot huuf vu jies. Huuf voq ecuav vji cuul 'Evunod Jecovt', jiesf ecuav ov cav fofp'v sief ov ziv. Xomm djidl ov uav tuup.

Zuas idunnisdi qsukidv ot e hsiev iyenqmi ug katv tvesvoph epf puv vjoploph gusiwis. Zua tvesvif epf vjisigusi tii nusi uqqusvapovoit epf qistupem vseovt. Liiq vitvoph, muwi vu jies zuas qsuhsitt!

Tmuxmepi kuc gopepdit zuas getvmepi vitvoph, e huuf vjoph op vjot qjeti. Emtu duphsevt up cioph vji uxpis ug vji siem itvevi uqqusvapovz. Dasouat xjev zua'mm fu xovj ov!

Tiint moli zuas nopftiv ot op vji sohjv qmedi up emm gsupvt. Zua hipaopimz xepv vu jimq qiuqmi xjodj ot e hsiev tvesv gus e catopitt. Et @fkduey nipvoupif: gudat up dsievoph wemai epf jimqoph qiuqmi. Vjot eheop xomm mief vu uqqusvapovoit dunoph zuas xez.

Muuloph gusxesf vu zuas gummux aqt!