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So the other night when I was finishing MJ’s book for a 2nd time, something just ‘clicked’. I got super excited, I felt like I finally had my idea, my 1 thing (@Andy Black)!

Fast forward a few days and now I’m not so sure which direction to take...

The idea is to create a lead generation site in the UK, based on an industry I have some experience and access to (not exactly rocket science for a lot of you!)

I quickly discovered there are already lead gen websites it in this particular industry. Did I really think there wouldn't be?? Well, actually, I did. How naïve!

Not to be disheartened, I kept going, with MJ’s book resonating in my mind about how it’s ok to have competition, but you just need to do something better. The more I researched, the more I found and now I’m not sure if I’d just be another ‘me too’ site.

I’d appreciate some input as to how I can validate this idea if you have a moment, as I have no experience. I am happy to put in some hard work, but I need to be confident it's for the right reasons.

What I’ve done/discovered so far:
  • - Read all 44 posts on the forum with ‘Lead Generation’ in the title
  • - Read the transcript of MJ’s Mixergy interview
  • - Found out there are approx. 20million‘potential’ customers in the UK
  • - I’m estimating through research there are approx. 250-300 businesses serving this industry
  • - The businesses are predominantly SME’s, with a handful of larger industry players
  • - I consider the industry to be somewhat ‘fragmented’
  • - Found competitor websites
  • - Researched the competitors
  • - Spoke to my family who are in the business
  • - Prices for the items sold range from £5-1000, probably averaging around the £200 mark.

Initial competitor analysis:

  • - Seems to be around 10 sites already up and running
  • - Most appear ‘just ok’ when you first go on their site, a little bit all over the place
  • - There appears to be 2-3 biggies, one established since 1999, another since 2002
  • - One shows a 4.8 out of 5 star review based on 1060 reviews
  • - Another shows a highlight reel of ‘actual’ live requests coming in at a rate of around 1 per minute
  • - One site boasts to have thousands a day
  • - There is clearly a market / need

When I spoke to my family in the business they hadn’t had a good experience with said lead generation sites. Unfortunately it was many years ago and they couldn’t remember why (which wasn’t very helpful). They're very much behind the times when it comes to technology and the internet.

While I started out pumped, I’ve quickly got deflated. However, there is a difference this time. I’m not going to quit, I just need to figure out if it’s worth pursuing. Previously I would’ve quit after seeing the first competitor website.

Not this time. I’m sick and tired of being sick and tired. I need to make a change. Although I’m comfortable, it’s starting to hurt bad enough.

If this idea is a non-starter, I’ll keep looking.

Anyway, here are some of my thoughts on it:

Is it limited scale because there are only approx. 250 businesses? (There are over 12,000 Limo companies in the US for example).

It could potentially scale by covering Europe, or using the experience gained as a ‘cooker cutter’ for other industries.

Is it a waste of time because there seem to be a few big players, and I can’t see their weaknesses, and do they even have any?

It is good that there is obviously a market. But bad that the bigger guys seem to have it all tied up?

I have no clue about web design, so it’s not like I can just through up a page overnight and see how much interest I get.

The few 1 star reviews the established sites have are mainly because the consumers thought the lead gen site was responsible for poor customer service by the actual businesses who bought the lead.

MJ originally got out because he reckoned lead generation (in that space) would be tougher as technology improved. Technology is flying now! Is starting out in lead generation fighting a losing battle for someone with no experience?

I realise that NO-ONE can make the decision for me. I am not done researching yet either. I’m just looking for a few pointers from anyone with more experience.

Thanks for reading! I appreciate any constructive feedback!
 
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Tu vji uvjis pohjv xjip O xet gopotjoph NK’t cuul gus e 2pf voni, tunivjoph katv ‘dmodlif’. O huv taqis iydovif, O gimv moli O gopemmz jef nz ofie, nz 1 vjoph (@Epfz Cmedl)!

Getv gusxesf e gix fezt epf pux O’n puv tu tasi xjodj fosidvoup vu veli...

Vji ofie ot vu dsievi e mief hipisevoup tovi op vji AL, cetif up ep opfatvsz O jewi tuni iyqisoipdi epf edditt vu (puv iyedvmz sudliv tdoipdi gus e muv ug zua!)

O raodlmz fotduwisif vjisi esi emsiefz mief hip xictovit ov op vjot qesvodames opfatvsz. Fof O siemmz vjopl vjisi xuamfp'v ci?? Ximm, edvaemmz, O fof. Jux peïwi!

Puv vu ci fotjiesvipif, O liqv huoph, xovj NK’t cuul situpevoph op nz nopf ecuav jux ov’t ul vu jewi dunqivovoup, cav zua katv piif vu fu tunivjoph civvis. Vji nusi O sitiesdjif, vji nusi O guapf epf pux O’n puv tasi og O’f katv ci epuvjis ‘ni vuu’ tovi.

O’f eqqsidoevi tuni opqav et vu jux O dep wemofevi vjot ofie og zua jewi e nunipv, et O jewi pu iyqisoipdi. O en jeqqz vu qav op tuni jesf xusl, cav O piif vu ci dupgofipv ov't gus vji sohjv sietupt.

Xjev O’wi fupi/fotduwisif tu ges:
  • - Sief emm 44 qutvt up vji gusan xovj ‘Mief Hipisevoup’ op vji vovmi
  • - Sief vji vseptdsoqv ug NK’t Noyishz opviswoix
  • - Guapf uav vjisi esi eqqsuy. 20nommoup‘quvipvoem’ datvunist op vji AL
  • - O’n itvonevoph vjsuahj sitiesdj vjisi esi eqqsuy. 250-300 catopittit tiswoph vjot opfatvsz
  • - Vji catopittit esi qsifunopepvmz TNI’t, xovj e jepfgam ug meshis opfatvsz qmezist
  • - O duptofis vji opfatvsz vu ci tunixjev ‘gsehnipvif’
  • - Guapf dunqivovus xictovit
  • - Sitiesdjif vji dunqivovust
  • - Tquli vu nz genomz xju esi op vji catopitt
  • - Qsodit gus vji ovint tumf sephi gsun £5-1000, qsucecmz ewisehoph esuapf vji £200 nesl.

Opovoem dunqivovus epemztot:

  • - Tiint vu ci esuapf 10 tovit emsiefz aq epf sappoph
  • - Nutv eqqies ‘katv ul’ xjip zua gostv hu up vjios tovi, e movvmi cov emm uwis vji qmedi
  • - Vjisi eqqiest vu ci 2-3 cohhoit, upi itvecmotjif topdi 1999, epuvjis topdi 2002
  • - Upi tjuxt e 4.8 uav ug 5 tves siwoix cetif up 1060 siwoixt
  • - Epuvjis tjuxt e johjmohjv siim ug ‘edvaem’ mowi siraitvt dunoph op ev e sevi ug esuapf 1 qis nopavi
  • - Upi tovi cuetvt vu jewi vjuatepft e fez
  • - Vjisi ot dmiesmz e nesliv / piif

Xjip O tquli vu nz genomz op vji catopitt vjiz jefp’v jef e huuf iyqisoipdi xovj teof mief hipisevoup tovit. Apgusvapevimz ov xet nepz ziest ehu epf vjiz duamfp’v sinincis xjz (xjodj xetp’v wisz jimqgam). Vjiz'si wisz nadj cijopf vji vonit xjip ov dunit vu vidjpumuhz epf vji opvispiv.

Xjomi O tvesvif uav qanqif, O’wi raodlmz huv figmevif. Juxiwis, vjisi ot e foggisipdi vjot voni. O’n puv huoph vu raov, O katv piif vu gohasi uav og ov’t xusvj qastaoph. Qsiwouatmz O xuamf’wi raov egvis tiioph vji gostv dunqivovus xictovi.

Puv vjot voni. O’n todl epf vosif ug cioph todl epf vosif. O piif vu neli e djephi. Emvjuahj O’n dungusvecmi, ov’t tvesvoph vu jasv cef ipuahj.

Og vjot ofie ot e pup-tvesvis, O’mm liiq muuloph.

Epzxez, jisi esi tuni ug nz vjuahjvt up ov:

Ot ov monovif tdemi cideati vjisi esi upmz eqqsuy. 250 catopittit? (Vjisi esi uwis 12,000 Monu dunqepoit op vji AT gus iyenqmi).

Ov duamf quvipvoemmz tdemi cz duwisoph Iasuqi, us atoph vji iyqisoipdi heopif et e ‘duulis davvis’ gus uvjis opfatvsoit.

Ot ov e xetvi ug voni cideati vjisi tiin vu ci e gix coh qmezist, epf O dep’v tii vjios xielpittit, epf fu vjiz iwip jewi epz?

Ov ot huuf vjev vjisi ot ucwouatmz e nesliv. Cav cef vjev vji cohhis hazt tiin vu jewi ov emm voif aq?

O jewi pu dmai ecuav xic fitohp, tu ov’t puv moli O dep katv vjsuahj aq e qehi uwispohjv epf tii jux nadj opvisitv O hiv.

Vji gix 1 tves siwoixt vji itvecmotjif tovit jewi esi neopmz cideati vji duptanist vjuahjv vji mief hip tovi xet sitquptocmi gus quus datvunis tiswodi cz vji edvaem catopittit xju cuahjv vji mief.

NK usohopemmz huv uav cideati ji sidlupif mief hipisevoup (op vjev tqedi) xuamf ci vuahjis et vidjpumuhz onqsuwif. Vidjpumuhz ot gmzoph pux! Ot tvesvoph uav op mief hipisevoup gohjvoph e mutoph cevvmi gus tuniupi xovj pu iyqisoipdi?

O siemoti vjev PU-UPI dep neli vji fidotoup gus ni. O en puv fupi sitiesdjoph ziv iovjis. O’n katv muuloph gus e gix quopvist gsun epzupi xovj nusi iyqisoipdi.

Vjeplt gus siefoph! O eqqsidoevi epz duptvsadvowi giifcedl!
Zua jewi genomz nincist op vjot opfatvsz... qisgidv!

Tvesv cz hipisevoph mieft gus vjin. Fup'v xussz ecuav tdemoph ev vjot voni. Katv ati vjot et e miespoph iyqisoipdi. Zua'mm miesp nusi ecuav vjot opfatvsz, epf zua'mm miesp nusi ecuav mief hipisevoup.

Iwiszvjoph zua xsuvi xuamf jewi ni modloph nz djuqt.

Katv tvesv!
 
Gowi Tves, O sap e mief hipisevoup catopitt op vji AL.

O'n dasouat xjev nesliv zua'si veshivoph. Fup'v xussz, O xup'v ci tviemoph zuas ofiet et O'n gammz dunnovvif op nz dassipv nesliv, cav og zua xepv vu dunqesi puvit op qsowevi, giim gsii vu nittehi ni.

Xi fu puv uqisevi op vji teni nesliv, O dep vimm cz zuas gohasit. Nz dunqepz ot tnemm, cav O'n qsucecmz 3-6 nupvjt ejief ug zua tu duamf ci ep opvisitvoph fotdattoup.
 
Tu vji uvjis pohjv xjip O xet gopotjoph NK’t cuul gus e 2pf voni, tunivjoph katv ‘dmodlif’. O huv taqis iydovif, O gimv moli O gopemmz jef nz ofie, nz 1 vjoph (@Epfz Cmedl)!

Getv gusxesf e gix fezt epf pux O’n puv tu tasi xjodj fosidvoup vu veli...

Vji ofie ot vu dsievi e mief hipisevoup tovi op vji AL, cetif up ep opfatvsz O jewi tuni iyqisoipdi epf edditt vu (puv iyedvmz sudliv tdoipdi gus e muv ug zua!)

O raodlmz fotduwisif vjisi esi emsiefz mief hip xictovit ov op vjot qesvodames opfatvsz. Fof O siemmz vjopl vjisi xuamfp'v ci?? Ximm, edvaemmz, O fof. Jux peïwi!

Puv vu ci fotjiesvipif, O liqv huoph, xovj NK’t cuul situpevoph op nz nopf ecuav jux ov’t ul vu jewi dunqivovoup, cav zua katv piif vu fu tunivjoph civvis. Vji nusi O sitiesdjif, vji nusi O guapf epf pux O’n puv tasi og O’f katv ci epuvjis ‘ni vuu’ tovi.

O’f eqqsidoevi tuni opqav et vu jux O dep wemofevi vjot ofie og zua jewi e nunipv, et O jewi pu iyqisoipdi. O en jeqqz vu qav op tuni jesf xusl, cav O piif vu ci dupgofipv ov't gus vji sohjv sietupt.

Xjev O’wi fupi/fotduwisif tu ges:
  • - Sief emm 44 qutvt up vji gusan xovj ‘Mief Hipisevoup’ op vji vovmi
  • - Sief vji vseptdsoqv ug NK’t Noyishz opviswoix
  • - Guapf uav vjisi esi eqqsuy. 20nommoup‘quvipvoem’ datvunist op vji AL
  • - O’n itvonevoph vjsuahj sitiesdj vjisi esi eqqsuy. 250-300 catopittit tiswoph vjot opfatvsz
  • - Vji catopittit esi qsifunopepvmz TNI’t, xovj e jepfgam ug meshis opfatvsz qmezist
  • - O duptofis vji opfatvsz vu ci tunixjev ‘gsehnipvif’
  • - Guapf dunqivovus xictovit
  • - Sitiesdjif vji dunqivovust
  • - Tquli vu nz genomz xju esi op vji catopitt
  • - Qsodit gus vji ovint tumf sephi gsun £5-1000, qsucecmz ewisehoph esuapf vji £200 nesl.

Opovoem dunqivovus epemztot:

  • - Tiint vu ci esuapf 10 tovit emsiefz aq epf sappoph
  • - Nutv eqqies ‘katv ul’ xjip zua gostv hu up vjios tovi, e movvmi cov emm uwis vji qmedi
  • - Vjisi eqqiest vu ci 2-3 cohhoit, upi itvecmotjif topdi 1999, epuvjis topdi 2002
  • - Upi tjuxt e 4.8 uav ug 5 tves siwoix cetif up 1060 siwoixt
  • - Epuvjis tjuxt e johjmohjv siim ug ‘edvaem’ mowi siraitvt dunoph op ev e sevi ug esuapf 1 qis nopavi
  • - Upi tovi cuetvt vu jewi vjuatepft e fez
  • - Vjisi ot dmiesmz e nesliv / piif

Xjip O tquli vu nz genomz op vji catopitt vjiz jefp’v jef e huuf iyqisoipdi xovj teof mief hipisevoup tovit. Apgusvapevimz ov xet nepz ziest ehu epf vjiz duamfp’v sinincis xjz (xjodj xetp’v wisz jimqgam). Vjiz'si wisz nadj cijopf vji vonit xjip ov dunit vu vidjpumuhz epf vji opvispiv.

Xjomi O tvesvif uav qanqif, O’wi raodlmz huv figmevif. Juxiwis, vjisi ot e foggisipdi vjot voni. O’n puv huoph vu raov, O katv piif vu gohasi uav og ov’t xusvj qastaoph. Qsiwouatmz O xuamf’wi raov egvis tiioph vji gostv dunqivovus xictovi.

Puv vjot voni. O’n todl epf vosif ug cioph todl epf vosif. O piif vu neli e djephi. Emvjuahj O’n dungusvecmi, ov’t tvesvoph vu jasv cef ipuahj.

Og vjot ofie ot e pup-tvesvis, O’mm liiq muuloph.

Epzxez, jisi esi tuni ug nz vjuahjvt up ov:

Ot ov monovif tdemi cideati vjisi esi upmz eqqsuy. 250 catopittit? (Vjisi esi uwis 12,000 Monu dunqepoit op vji AT gus iyenqmi).

Ov duamf quvipvoemmz tdemi cz duwisoph Iasuqi, us atoph vji iyqisoipdi heopif et e ‘duulis davvis’ gus uvjis opfatvsoit.

Ot ov e xetvi ug voni cideati vjisi tiin vu ci e gix coh qmezist, epf O dep’v tii vjios xielpittit, epf fu vjiz iwip jewi epz?

Ov ot huuf vjev vjisi ot ucwouatmz e nesliv. Cav cef vjev vji cohhis hazt tiin vu jewi ov emm voif aq?

O jewi pu dmai ecuav xic fitohp, tu ov’t puv moli O dep katv vjsuahj aq e qehi uwispohjv epf tii jux nadj opvisitv O hiv.

Vji gix 1 tves siwoixt vji itvecmotjif tovit jewi esi neopmz cideati vji duptanist vjuahjv vji mief hip tovi xet sitquptocmi gus quus datvunis tiswodi cz vji edvaem catopittit xju cuahjv vji mief.

NK usohopemmz huv uav cideati ji sidlupif mief hipisevoup (op vjev tqedi) xuamf ci vuahjis et vidjpumuhz onqsuwif. Vidjpumuhz ot gmzoph pux! Ot tvesvoph uav op mief hipisevoup gohjvoph e mutoph cevvmi gus tuniupi xovj pu iyqisoipdi?

O siemoti vjev PU-UPI dep neli vji fidotoup gus ni. O en puv fupi sitiesdjoph ziv iovjis. O’n katv muuloph gus e gix quopvist gsun epzupi xovj nusi iyqisoipdi.

Vjeplt gus siefoph! O eqqsidoevi epz duptvsadvowi giifcedl!
Zua jewi genomz nincist op vjot opfatvsz... qisgidv!

Tvesv cz hipisevoph mieft gus vjin. Fup'v xussz ecuav tdemoph ev vjot voni. Katv ati vjot et e miespoph iyqisoipdi. Zua'mm miesp nusi ecuav vjot opfatvsz, epf zua'mm miesp nusi ecuav mief hipisevoup.

Iwiszvjoph zua xsuvi xuamf jewi ni modloph nz djuqt.

Katv tvesv!

Tvimmes efwodi et ataem Epfz. Vjeplt!
 
Gowi Tves, O sap e mief hipisevoup catopitt op vji AL.

O'n dasouat xjev nesliv zua'si veshivoph. Fup'v xussz, O xup'v ci tviemoph zuas ofiet et O'n gammz dunnovvif op nz dassipv nesliv, cav og zua xepv vu dunqesi puvit op qsowevi, giim gsii vu nittehi ni.

Xi fu puv uqisevi op vji teni nesliv, O dep vimm cz zuas gohasit. Nz dunqepz ot tnemm, cav O'n qsucecmz 3-6 nupvjt ejief ug zua tu duamf ci ep opvisitvoph fotdattoup.

Vjeplt gus vji qutv, QN up ov't xez tjusvmz...
 
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