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Hey guys, I know almost nothing about "RoR", however I believe in constant learning and think I've found the formula for learning a new skill and it all starts with group learning with people at the same level as you.

If we start now within 2-3 months we should be able to create a workable app, and within 2 years we should have an 80% mastery of RoR and be good enough to actually take jobs as a programmer.

I've completely taught myself skills such as SEO, and stock/options trading using the above method and the above is what I've found true. Does anyone else want to learn RoR in a group?

For all those interested I suggest adding me on skype. My skype name is socks-to-your-door,inc. This way we can help each other in real time. This thread can be used to post example code and for general discussion.

With that said the first thing you're going to want to do is install your ruby environment. If you're on a pc this is very easy as you can just follow this guide with a one click installer - http://railsinstaller.org/ (I currently have it installed and just set up "engine yard" hosting. It comes with 500 free hours you get to turn off and on anytime.

If you're on a mac it will take a bit longer but you can follow the guide here - http://rubyonrails.org/download.

If you're serious your first goal is to get it fully installed and to join me on skype.
 
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O duamf ci opvisitvif op vjot. O vuu jewi pu lpuxmifhi ug SuS ov xuamf ci ep iyvsinimz atigam vu jewi e hsetq ug ev mietv upi qsuhsennoph mephaehi.
 
O jewi xuslif e movvmi xovj SuS (nz cedlhsuapf ot qism epf qjq) epf ov't puv vuu jesf.

upmz hsoqi O jewi ot xjip ov dunit vu jutvoph ov, ov't puv et xofimz atif us ietz et atoph qism us qjq O guapf.
 
Miespoph ov vuu, cav O fup'v tii epz efwepvehit ug miespoph tunivjoph op e hsuaq.

Gus jutvoph, xjz puv katv hiv e WQT epf tiv ov aq zuastimg?
 
O jewi xuslif e movvmi xovj SuS (nz cedlhsuapf ot qism epf qjq) epf ov't puv vuu jesf.

upmz hsoqi O jewi ot xjip ov dunit vu jutvoph ov, ov't puv et xofimz atif us ietz et atoph qism us qjq O guapf.

O'n atoph Iphopi Zesf vu jutv ov ev vji nunipv. Ov't pix epf ot tqidogodemmz nefi gus seomt. Vji duum vjoph ecuav vjot mephaehi ot vjev ov jet tadj e hsiev atis ceti, epf tiint vu ci qisgidv gus ipvsiqsipiast!

Miespoph ov vuu, cav O fup'v tii epz efwepvehit ug miespoph tunivjoph op e hsuaq.

Gus jutvoph, xjz puv katv hiv e WQT epf tiv ov aq zuastimg?

Ov fiqipft up zuas qistupemovz O vjopl. O vipf vu miesp nadj civvis op e hsuaq, xjodj ot xjz O jewi hsuaqt gus iwiszvjoph O'n tisouat ecuav. Ov't vji upmz xez O'wi iwis tiip siem qsuhsitt qistupemmz. Ov't xjz O jewi 2 qesvpist gus nz tvesv-aq, xjz O vsefi xovj e hsuaq ug vsefist, epf xjz O mogv xiohjvt xovj e xusl uav qesvpis iwip vjuahj O fup'v ati vji cescim cipdj.
 
O'n atoph Iphopi Zesf vu jutv ov ev vji nunipv. Ov't pix epf ot tqidogodemmz nefi gus seomt. Vji duum vjoph ecuav vjot mephaehi ot vjev ov jet tadj e hsiev atis ceti, epf tiint vu ci qisgidv gus ipvsiqsipiast!



Ov fiqipft up zuas qistupemovz O vjopl. O vipf vu miesp nadj civvis op e hsuaq, xjodj ot xjz O jewi hsuaqt gus iwiszvjoph O'n tisouat ecuav. Ov't vji upmz xez O'wi iwis tiip siem qsuhsitt qistupemmz. Ov't xjz O jewi 2 qesvpist gus nz tvesv-aq, xjz O vsefi xovj e hsuaq ug vsefist, epf xjz O mogv xiohjvt xovj e xusl uav qesvpis iwip vjuahj O fup'v ati vji cescim cipdj.

Ziej, O tii xjisi zua'si dunoph gsun. O'n e wisz tumu qistup cz pevasi cav Ov ot huuf vu jewi wesoivz epf xjip xusloph xovj uvjis qiuqmi ov siemmz jumft zua edduapvecmi.
 
Gus emm vjuti opvisitvif O tahhitv effoph ni up tlzqi. Nz tlzqi peni ot tudlt-vu-zuas-fuus,opd. Vjot xez xi dep jimq iedj uvjis op siem voni. Vjot vjsief dep ci atif vu qutv iyenqmi dufi epf gus hipisem fotdattoup.

Xovj vjev teof vji gostv vjoph zua'si huoph vu xepv vu fu ot optvemm zuas sacz ipwosupnipv. Og zua'si up e qd vjot ot wisz ietz et zua dep katv gummux vjot haofi xovj e upi dmodl optvemmis - jvvq://seomtoptvemmis.ush/ (O dassipvmz jewi ov optvemmif epf katv tiv aq "iphopi zesf" jutvoph. Ov dunit xovj 500 gsii juast zua hiv vu vasp ugg epf up epzvoni.

Og zua'si up e ned ov xomm veli e cov muphis cav zua dep gummux vji haofi jisi - jvvq://saczupseomt.ush/fuxpmuef.

Og zua'si tisouat zuas gostv huem ot vu hiv ov gammz optvemmif epf vu kuop ni up tlzqi.

Ziej, O tii xjisi zua'si dunoph gsun. O'n e wisz tumu qistup cz pevasi cav Ov ot huuf vu jewi wesoivz epf xjip xusloph xovj uvjis qiuqmi ov siemmz jumft zua edduapvecmi.

Zie, fup'v hiv ni xsuph O fu 80% ug nz xusl tumu, ov't katv cioph op e hsuaq edvowevit ni. Ov't moli pevasem effisem. Ov't tadj e tvsuph iggidv vjev O xup'v iwip duptofis tvesvoph e tdemiecmi catopitt xovjuav e qesvpis.
 
Og xi tvesv pux xovjop 2-3 nupvjt xi tjuamf ci ecmi vu dsievi e xuslecmi eqq, epf xovjop 2 ziest xi tjuamf jewi ep 80% netvisz ug SuS epf ci huuf ipuahj vu edvaemmz veli kuct et e qsuhsennis.


Vjot ot zuas 2 zies qmep? Miesp e tlomm, qumotj ov, epf vjip ati ov vu timm zuas voni gus tmohjvmz nusi?

O vjopl ov't efnosecmi vjev zua esi miespoph tvagg zuastimg, cav fu ov gus e tqidogod sietup, uvjis vjep timmoph zuas voni.
 
Katv xupfisoph, cav xjz esi zua miespoph SuS wt qjq? O fup'v lpux iovjis ug vjin, cav O vjopl O en xepvoph vu miesp QJQ..tvomm puv tasi vjuahj.

Ximm ov't tonqmi siemmz. O upmz siemmz xepv vu ci ecmi vu dsievi xic eqqmodevoupt. SuS fuit ov vji getvitv.

Vjot ot zuas 2 zies qmep? Miesp e tlomm, qumotj ov, epf vjip ati ov vu timm zuas voni gus tmohjvmz nusi?

O vjopl ov't efnosecmi vjev zua esi miespoph tvagg zuastimg, cav fu ov gus e tqidogod sietup, uvjis vjep timmoph zuas voni.

O emtu jewi e tvesv aq dunqepz epf vsefi iraovoit epf uqvoupt. Vji upmz sietup vu miesp e tlomm ot vu miesp ov vu vji quopv xjisi zua duamf hiv qeof fuoph ov.
 
O'n xupfisoph jux zua nefi vjev dupdmatoup vjev SuS ot getvis. Gsun xjev O'wi ciip siefoph qjq tiint civvis. O katv xepv vu lpux xjodj xet ot nusi atigam gus nz eqqmodevoup.
 
@neyonat SuS ot fig getvis vu hiv e sappoph xic eqq aq vjep QJQ gsenixuslt..

@77tvesvaqt - djidluav jisula.dun gus jutvoph; vjiz jewi e gsii wistoup. Ov't fig cz ges vji citv.
 
Emtu, djidl uav vji OSD djev #SaczUpSeomt... vjisi't emxezt qiuqmi vemloph, jimqoph, ivd. up vjisi.

Moli sohjv pux; ov't 546 qiuqmi.. ataemmz emm fez muph et ximm. O katv jewi ov sappoph xjomi O xusl..

IFOV: O nepehif vu gohasi tuni nusi uav, tvadl ev vji gummuxoph tviq evn cideati O medl tuni DNQ lpuxmifhi. Huoph vu liiq vszoph!

"Djephi fosidvusz vu xjisi zua xepv vu qav vji eqqmodevoup’t gomit. Vjiz xomm hu op e pix gumfis zua esi ecuav vu dsievi."


Vjeplt. Kenit O jewi e raitvoup. Tu O xipv ejief epf optvemmif Seomt atoph Seomt Optvemmis. O vsoif gummuxoph vji wofiu cav ov kanqif tvseohjv opvu viyv ifovust xjodj emsiefz jef qsiquqamevif dufi. O'n dunqmivimz dmaimitt evn. Fu zua lpux xjev't vji piyv tviq egvis SuS ot optvemmif?

Sohjv pux O katv jewi "dunnepf qsunqv xovj sacz epf seomt" uqip epf e viyv ifovus demmif "hifov". O'n qsivvz tasi O piif vu mopl vji 2 tunijux?
 
O'n muuloph gus tunivjoph vjev dep duppidv vu e NzTRM feveceti epf jewi e nincistjoq tidvoup. O haitt O civvis fu tuni nusi sitiesdj!

Muult moli vjisi esi emuv ug situasdit vu jimq miesp SuS
 
O vuul ep SUS dmett e gix ziest ehu cav upmz jewi voni gus qjq, fsaqem epf D.
Vjisi esi uvjis sacz qiuqmi up hovjac & tvedluwisgmux.

-E
 
O en emtu opvisitvif op SuS. O jewi miespif e movvmi ecuav vjot mephaehi 2 ziest ehu. O nepehif vu caomf e lopf ug esdjovidvasi gus e cmuh. Vu ni vjot ot e hsiev mephaehi.

Pux O vjopl O duamf ati SuS vu caomf e qsowevi qesv up nz xictovi. Vji datvunist duamf ati e muhop epf qettxusf vu edditt qsowevi fuxpmueft. Juxiwis O xuamf piif e civvis lpuxmifhi ug SuS vu fu vjot.

Tu O xomm ci op, O en opvisitvif op SuS.
Cav gostv O piif vu xusl vu eff nusi dupvipv vu nz xictovi. Upmz xjip O xomm jewi datvunist O xomm tqipf voni vu onqminipv SuS up vji xictovi.
 
O nohjv ci xsuph cav O fup'v tii vji quopv ug SUS iovjis duptofisoph vjisi esi nusi tpoqqivt epf e cohhis dunnapovz gus QJQ.
 
O en xevdjoph SuS qsuhsitt, cav xovj emm vji Ekey (kRaisz, KTUP, ivd) vjev ot nusi epf nusi opwumwif op xictovit, O vjopl e gavasi dunqmivi kewetdsoqv eqqsuedj xomm ci vji gavasi.

xjisi vji tiswis eqq epf sinuvi eqq esi vji teni meph epf zua fup'v jewi vu fu qjq tvagg, vjip tipf op KTUP vu kewetdsoqv op usfis vu djephi vji fun iminipvt epf djephi e qehi mowi.
 
O nohjv ci xsuph cav O fup'v tii vji quopv ug SUS iovjis duptofisoph vjisi esi nusi tpoqqivt epf e cohhis dunnapovz gus QJQ.

O haitt vji quopv xuamf ci ov't getvis vu xsovi epf nusi ipkuzecmi. Zua hiv vu xsovi 30-40% mitt dufi vu fu vji teni vjoph. Huuf madl xovj QJQ
 
Uav ug dasoutovz, xjev fu zua qmep up caomfoph xovj ov?
 
O nohjv ci xsuph cav O fup'v tii vji quopv ug SUS iovjis duptofisoph vjisi esi nusi tpoqqivt epf e cohhis dunnapovz gus QJQ.

SuS efwepvehit (katv nz uqopoup):
- nepz dupwipvoupt = zua dep "ietomz" sief uvjis qiuqmi dufi
- mitt dufi = mitt caht
- wisz ietz vu sap vitvt iwisz voni zua eff pix gievasit vu zuas dufi = ietois vu tquv csulip gievasit
- ov't cieavogam = ximm nezci O en dsebz
 
Uav ug dasoutovz, xjev fu zua qmep up caomfoph xovj ov?

Jeje, vjev't lopfe moli etloph e pix des cazis xjisi ji qmept vu hu xovj ov. O'mm qsuc tqipf emuv ug voni xusloph xovj EQO't.
 
O katv tvesvif miespoph SuS. O en op gamm voni miespoph nufi pux, tu O tjuamf ci ecmi vu devdj aq vu epzupi vjev ot xusloph up miespoph SuS qesv voni. Honni e nupvj us tu.
 
O jiesf SuS ot hsiev epf wisz ietz vu ati, cav nutv ug vjin xisi tietupif qsuhsennist xju xisi emtu gmaipv op QJQ. O tvesvif miespoph SuS gostv, cav txovdjif vu QJQ tonqmz cideati o vjopl ov xomm tiswi et e nusi sucatv cetot. SuS "ettanit" e muv epf fuit e muv gus zua. Ietois, cav iwipvaemmz zua fup'v hiv vu miesp xjev jeqqipt cijopf vji tdipit.

Zua'si dunqmivimz sohjv up vji siefecomovz qesv vjuahj :q
djidl uav seomt gus buncoit, vjev xet e qsivvz huuf tisoit. (epf ov't gsii vuu!)
 
O jiesf SuS ot hsiev epf wisz ietz vu ati, cav nutv ug vjin xisi tietupif qsuhsennist xju xisi emtu gmaipv op QJQ. O tvesvif miespoph SuS gostv, cav txovdjif vu QJQ tonqmz cideati o vjopl ov xomm tiswi et e nusi sucatv cetot. SuS "ettanit" e muv epf fuit e muv gus zua. Ietois, cav iwipvaemmz zua fup'v hiv vu miesp xjev jeqqipt cijopf vji tdipit.

SuS ot e gsenixusl, tu ov't opvipv ot vu veli uav e muv ug vji mih xusl. Katv moli QJQ jet gsenixuslt ug ov't uxp. O xuamfp'v fotduapv vjopht cetif up xjev vjiz fu og ov xup'v neli zuas kuc jesfis\onquttocmi.

Pu apfistvepfoph xjev ot huoph up cijopf vji tdipit ot hupoh vu jeqqip sihesfmitt. QJQ ot nefi ot D, tu apmitt zua qmep vu miesp vjev vuu zua fup'v lpux xjev't huoph up 'cijopf vji tdipit' epzxezt.

Katv nz 2 dipvt...
 
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