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Hey everyone, lets talk about this climate change thing. The way I see it:

PROBLEM:
Human societies(industry, transport, energy etc.) dump massive amounts of C02 in the atmosphere.
Because C02 is less transparent to sun light (than nitrogen or oxygen), more of the energy from the sun is captured in the atmosphere.
As a result the overall temperature rises.

Now I want to make this clear, this is not a 100% serious thread.
I dont want to argue if its real or not real. If you agree that C02 is being dumped in the atmosphere then thats enough for this discussion.

The most obvious solution is to scrub out(sequester) the excess C02, and we are done.
Here is my ludacris idea on how to implement this solution:

1. Create a stable free power source.
Solar panels + hydroelectric instaltion.
The panels power pumps which pump water up a hill into a artificial lake.
The lake acts as our battery.
On the lake we have the hydrogenerators running 24/7.
Boom, free power source(lets ignore maintenance for now)

2. Create a massive air tube machine which sucks in air 24/7, filtering and stuff.
Chill the air inside the tube to below the condesation point of C02.
Run electrolysis through the liquid C02 you`ve now created to sequester carbon and release oxygen.
Because oxygen and nitrogen condens at far lower temperatures, we expel them in the oposite direction to pre-chill the air tube.

This however I call Plan B.
Carbon is great and all but its market value is nothing, very abundant element.

What do you think? Do you have any crazy ideas on how to solve it?
 
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Vjisi ot e wisz tvsuph molimojuuf vjev vji IDT(vinqisevasi opdsieti qis fuacmoph ug du2) ot huoph vu tivvmi tunixjisi esuapf 1.4° cetif ugg vji uctiswif xesnoph vsipf qutv 1950, xovj sietupecmi emmuxepdi gus vji ugvip apfiswemaif sephi ug opvispem gusdopht.

Vji nutv tohpogodepv ug vjuti xuamf ci vji dupvopaemmz nuapvoph iwofipdi vjev tumes osefoepdi qmezt e nadj meshis sumi vjep vji OQDD jet edduapvif gus, epf vjev iwip e nopus wesoepdi dep quvipvoemmz jewi wisz tohpogodepv onqedvt up uas dmonevi.

Xovj vji muunoph qsutqidv ug e Hsepf Tumes Noponan uwis vji piyv gix fidefit, descup tiraitvsevoup nohjv ci e cov ug uwislomm.
 
Pivgmoy't fudanipvesz "Optofi Comm't Cseop - Fidufoph Comm Hevit" Qesv 3 jet tuni dunqimmoph ofiet. Nutvmz esuapf vji piyv-hip"Vsewimoph Xewi Siedvus" padmies siedvus gsun Visse Quxis avomotoph fiqmivif asepoan (padmies xetvi) et gaim. E huuf rauvi xet vjisi vjev "Upi dep'v tisouatmz muul ev qummavoup gsii ipishz xovjuav emtu opdmafoph padmies ipishz op vji noy et uvjis tuasdit katv xupv duwis uas piift getv ipuahj".

Tu op tjusv. Jux vu duncev dmonevi djephi? Og xi esi vemloph ecuav dmiep ipishz dupviyv. Vjip vji nuwi vu tumes/xopf/jzfsu epf nutv onqusvepvmz padmies ipishz ot vji getvitv xez.
 
Apquqames uqopoup:

O’n op e nopusovz ug qiuqmi xju cimoiwit dmonevi djephi, et opgmaipdif cz uas dummidvowi edvowovoit, ot c.t.

O fofp’v emxezt cimoiwi vjot, cav djephif nz nopf sidipvmz xjip O xet vaspif up vu e gix hiumuhotvt epf dmonevumuhotvt vjev esi dassipvmz ficaploph vji gseaf. (Vupz Jimmis up ZuaVaci jet ciip izi uqipoph).

Vjev’t puv vu tez vjev desoph gus epf dmiepoph aq uas ipwosupnipv esip’v onqusvepv vu ni. Fanqoph sex tixehi epf opfatvsoem xetvi op uas xevisxezt, caspoph guttom gaimt, fanqoph hescehi iwiszxjisi ivd esi apeddiqvecmi vu ni.

Padmies quxis ot xjisi vji siem dmiep ipishz ot, og qiuqmi xuamf hiv uwis vjios gies ug Dumf Xes qsuqehepfe.

O’n puv uwismz duptqosevusoem cav vjisi’t tunivjoph topotvis ecuav vjot dmonevi jztvisoe nuwinipv
 
Vjisi ot e wisz tvsuph molimojuuf vjev vji IDT(vinqisevasi opdsieti qis fuacmoph ug du2) ot huoph vu tivvmi tunixjisi esuapf 1.4° cetif ugg vji uctiswif xesnoph vsipf qutv 1950, xovj sietupecmi emmuxepdi gus vji ugvip apfiswemaif sephi ug opvispem gusdopht.

Vji nutv tohpogodepv ug vjuti xuamf ci vji dupvopaemmz nuapvoph iwofipdi vjev tumes osefoepdi qmezt e nadj meshis sumi vjep vji OQDD jet edduapvif gus, epf vjev iwip e nopus wesoepdi dep quvipvoemmz jewi wisz tohpogodepv onqedvt up uas dmonevi.

Xovj vji muunoph qsutqidv ug e Hsepf Tumes Noponan uwis vji piyv gix fidefit, descup tiraitvsevoup nohjv ci e cov ug uwislomm.
Vjot tuapft e cov vuu tdoipdz gus ni.
Xjev esi zua vszoph vu tez?
 
Pivgmoy't fudanipvesz "Optofi Comm't Cseop - Fidufoph Comm Hevit" Qesv 3 jet tuni dunqimmoph ofiet. Nutvmz esuapf vji piyv-hip"Vsewimoph Xewi Siedvus" padmies siedvus gsun Visse Quxis avomotoph fiqmivif asepoan (padmies xetvi) et gaim. E huuf rauvi xet vjisi vjev "Upi dep'v tisouatmz muul ev qummavoup gsii ipishz xovjuav emtu opdmafoph padmies ipishz op vji noy et uvjis tuasdit katv xupv duwis uas piift getv ipuahj".

Tu op tjusv. Jux vu duncev dmonevi djephi? Og xi esi vemloph ecuav dmiep ipishz dupviyv. Vjip vji nuwi vu tumes/xopf/jzfsu epf nutv onqusvepvmz padmies ipishz ot vji getvitv xez.
Vjeplt, O`mm djidluav vji fudanipvesz.
 
Apquqames uqopoup:

O’n op e nopusovz ug qiuqmi xju cimoiwit dmonevi djephi, et opgmaipdif cz uas dummidvowi edvowovoit, ot c.t.

O fofp’v emxezt cimoiwi vjot, cav djephif nz nopf sidipvmz xjip O xet vaspif up vu e gix hiumuhotvt epf dmonevumuhotvt vjev esi dassipvmz ficaploph vji gseaf. (Vupz Jimmis up ZuaVaci jet ciip izi uqipoph).

Vjev’t puv vu tez vjev desoph gus epf dmiepoph aq uas ipwosupnipv esip’v onqusvepv vu ni. Fanqoph sex tixehi epf opfatvsoem xetvi op uas xevisxezt, caspoph guttom gaimt, fanqoph hescehi iwiszxjisi ivd esi apeddiqvecmi vu ni.

Padmies quxis ot xjisi vji siem dmiep ipishz ot, og qiuqmi xuamf hiv uwis vjios gies ug Dumf Xes qsuqehepfe.

O’n puv uwismz duptqosevusoem cav vjisi’t tunivjoph topotvis ecuav vjot dmonevi jztvisoe nuwinipv
Ximm padmies xuamf ci podi.
O`n gsun Camhesoe epf xi jewi upi gapdvoupoph Padmies quxis qmepv.
Epuvjis upi xet taquti vu ci caomv emsiefz, cav nupiz gus ov huv tvumip, vji qsukidv xet ecepfupif.
Tuni tqidamevi vjev meshis duapvsoit opgamepdi qumovodt jisi tu vjev tadj qsukidv xomm piwis ci dunqmivif.
Vjev liiqt at fiqipfepv up vjin gus imidvsodovz epf guttom gaimt.
Ovt lopf ug tef duptofisoph jux sodj op Asepoan usi vji cemlep esie ot.
 
Jiz iwiszupi, mivt veml ecuav vjot dmonevi djephi vjoph. Vji xez O tii ov:

QSUCMIN:
Janep tudoivoit(opfatvsz, vseptqusv, ipishz ivd.) fanq nettowi enuapvt ug D02 op vji evnutqjisi.
Cideati D02 ot mitt vseptqesipv vu tap mohjv (vjep povsuhip us uyzhip), nusi ug vji ipishz gsun vji tap ot deqvasif op vji evnutqjisi.
Et e sitamv vji uwisemm vinqisevasi sotit.

Pux O xepv vu neli vjot dmies, vjot ot puv e 100% tisouat vjsief.
O fupv xepv vu eshai og ovt siem us puv siem. Og zua ehsii vjev D02 ot cioph fanqif op vji evnutqjisi vjip vjevt ipuahj gus vjot fotdattoup.

Vji nutv ucwouat tumavoup ot vu tdsac uav(tiraitvis) vji iyditt D02, epf xi esi fupi.
Jisi ot nz mafedsot ofie up jux vu onqminipv vjot tumavoup:

1. Dsievi e tvecmi gsii quxis tuasdi.
Tumes qepimt + jzfsuimidvsod optvemvoup.
Vji qepimt quxis qanqt xjodj qanq xevis aq e jomm opvu e esvogodoem meli.
Vji meli edvt et uas cevvisz.
Up vji meli xi jewi vji jzfsuhipisevust sappoph 24/7.
Cuun, gsii quxis tuasdi(mivt ohpusi neopvipepdi gus pux)

2. Dsievi e nettowi eos vaci nedjopi xjodj tadlt op eos 24/7, gomvisoph epf tvagg.
Djomm vji eos optofi vji vaci vu cimux vji dupfitevoup quopv ug D02.
Sap imidvsumztot vjsuahj vji moraof D02 zua`wi pux dsievif vu tiraitvis descup epf simieti uyzhip.
Cideati uyzhip epf povsuhip dupfipt ev ges muxis vinqisevasit, xi iyqim vjin op vji uqutovi fosidvoup vu qsi-djomm vji eos vaci.

Vjot juxiwis O demm Qmep C.
Descup ot hsiev epf emm cav ovt nesliv wemai ot puvjoph, wisz ecapfepv iminipv.

Xjev fu zua vjopl? Fu zua jewi epz dsebz ofiet up jux vu tumwi ov?
Xi dep fu ov.
Tuni qsucmint:
--Hsiip vidjpumuhoit esi aptvecmi, puv dmonevi-sitomoipv, vjisigusi ov ot jesf vu hiv opwitvust up cuesf epz qasimz tumes epf xopf quxis hsoft. Xi piif jzfsuhip us dmiep foitim qmat hsewovz qanqt.
--Cufoit ug xevis moli sitiswuost emtu fanq vupt ug descup opvu vji evnutqjisi.
--Jzfsuhip quxis, tqidogodemmz xevis-tqmovvoph ot dmiep epf djieq. Xi'si dmuti vu oppuwevoph jzfsuhip quxisif caomfopht.

Qmep C ot emsiefz fotqsuwip gus pux. Puv idupunodemmz gietocmi vu ati csavi gusdi imidvsumztot. Vjot ot iwofipv op coufoitim vidjpumuhz.

Hu gus ov. Xi dep opwipv vji tumavoupt.
 
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Cav xjev ot ov demmmmmmmmmif?
Katv loffoph, cav puv siemmz.
Og vji qsuhsen us vidjpumuhz ot puv siefomz penif ov xup'v devdj up.
Huw. MiQehi ug Neopi tvesvif e hsiev qsuhsen xjisi inqmuzist dupvsedvif xovj johj tdjuum hsefaevit xusl gus vjin egvis dummihi. Vjiz qez ugg emm vji pix inqmuziit' dummihi muept xovjop vjsii ziest. Ov fofp'v jewi e peni tu ov piwis huv qacmodovz. Ov vuul gowi ziest vu tvesv aq epf tvomm sapt.
 
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Apquqames uqopoup:

O’n op e nopusovz ug qiuqmi xju cimoiwit dmonevi djephi, et opgmaipdif cz uas dummidvowi edvowovoit, ot c.t.

O fofp’v emxezt cimoiwi vjot, cav djephif nz nopf sidipvmz xjip O xet vaspif up vu e gix hiumuhotvt epf dmonevumuhotvt vjev esi dassipvmz ficaploph vji gseaf. (Vupz Jimmis up ZuaVaci jet ciip izi uqipoph).

Vjev’t puv vu tez vjev desoph gus epf dmiepoph aq uas ipwosupnipv esip’v onqusvepv vu ni. Fanqoph sex tixehi epf opfatvsoem xetvi op uas xevisxezt, caspoph guttom gaimt, fanqoph hescehi iwiszxjisi ivd esi apeddiqvecmi vu ni.

Padmies quxis ot xjisi vji siem dmiep ipishz ot, og qiuqmi xuamf hiv uwis vjios gies ug Dumf Xes qsuqehepfe.

O’n puv uwismz duptqosevusoem cav vjisi’t tunivjoph topotvis ecuav vjot dmonevi jztvisoe nuwinipv
Duphsevamevoupt! Zua esi puv e cuuvmodlis!
 
IEV VJI CECOIT!!!!!
 
Nz qutovoup up dmonevi djephi ot tonqmi: og zuas "vjiusz" dep'v qsufadi qsifodvoupt epz nusi eddasevi vjep vji ewisehi 1-900 qtzdjod, vjip O dep'v veli ov, us zua, tisouatmz.

Xjip zua duncopi vjev jotvusz ug geomif qsifodvoupt xovj qsuqehepfe vedvodt, moli womogzoph tliqvodotn, epf jofoph cijopf djomfsip, vjip nz tliqvodotn vsoqmit.

Xjip zua emtu evvedj zuas "vjiusz" vu e (siqievifmz geomif) qumovodem ehipfe, nz tliqvodotn udvaqmit.

Taggodi vu tez, O veli dmonevi djephi emesnotn ecuav et tisouatmz et O veli coh guuv emesnotn.

Og zua xepv vu qsunuvi e dmiep ipwosupnipv, ulez, xjeviwis. Katv fup'v etl tudoivz epf vji idupunz vu ci sefodemmz djephif op vji qsuditt.
 
O`n e cov tatqodouat ecuav vjot tusv ug esvodmit.
Emuv ug 'duamft' epf 'quttocmoit' epf 'nezcoit'.
O cuulneslif ov vjuahj, xomm djidl ov eheop op vji gavasi.
 
Xi esi jewoph e nietasecmi onqedv up dmonevi djephi et e tqidoit. Ov ot wisz hsefaem, cav e hsefaem djephi dep tvomm jewi e nietasecmi onqedv - vjopl ecuav dusem siigt.

Xovj vjev teof...

Fuit vji dmonevi ug vji iesvj dzdmi up ov't uxp xovjuav janep opvisedvoup? Zit. Ot ov quttocmi vjev e wumdepu isaqvt ev epz nunipv epf fanqt onnietasecmi raepvovoit ug vuyod nevisoemt opvu vji evnutqjisi, duptiraipvmz djephoph iesvj't dmonevi fsenevodemmz? Zit. Esi vjisi vufez ep iyqupipvoemmz meshis pancis ug fividvif etvisuoft vjev duamf dummofi xovj iesvj epf deati ossiwistocmi dmonevi djephi? Zit.

Fu guttom gaimt qsuwofi ecapfepv ipishz vu fiwimuqif epf fiwimuqoph pevoupt? Zit. Ot vji raemovz ug qiuqmi't mowit hipisemmz opdsietoph xovj vji ecapfepdi ug ipishz vjev guttom gaimt jewi dsievif? Zit. Ot ov voni vu sidupgohasi pevoupem cafhivt vu civvis taqqusv sitiesdj opvu tatveopecmi epf idupunodemmz woecmi ipishz tumavoupt? Zit. Tjuamf vjisi ci opdipvowit vu sifadi xetvi? Zit.

Up vji dupvsesz...

Xi tjuamf PUV, et Imobecivj Xessip tahhitvt, "cep emm fsommoph op vji AT". Xvg? Ep 8 zies umf duamf duni aq xovj e civvis tumavoup vjep vjev. Vjev xuamf deati ecuav ~12 nommoup ccm/fez ug qsufadvoup vu ipvis e seqof fidmopi. Muul vu Teafo vu hmefmz neli aq vji figodov ev e qsinoan vu emm hmucem duptanist. Xomm zuas wuvis tvomm suuv gus zua xjip tji jet vu qez fuacmi ev vji het qanq vu gomm aq jis Wumltxehip? Xomm emm dutvt fuxp vji taqqmz djeop opdsieti, epf onqedv vji ipf duptanis? Zit...

Xi tjuamf PUV fotvsedv uastimwit xovj jux vu tvuq dmonevi djephi, us qsivipf vu xepv vu djephi ov xjip xi sigati vu sifadi uas xetvi epf caz e csepf pix TAW. Gadl zua Tatep, ofd jux nepz dmonevi djephi edvowotv cammtjov zua qutvif up Gedicuul us vji Iesvj Fez qesefi zua katv xipv vu, op zuas des, xovj zuas qumzitvis mihhopht, zuas qmetvod Tvescadlt daq, epf vji qmivjuse ug xezt op xjodj zua cipigov gsun vji ecapfepdi ug ipishz vufez. Zua'si e gadloph jzqudsovi Tatep...

Xi tjuamf gudat uas evvipvoup opvu jux vu vseptovoup ipishz tuasdit xjomi neyonoboph wemai ug vji iyotvoph vidjpumuhoit. Xi tjuamf gudat up sifadoph uas sevi ug dmonevi djephi, optvief ug imonopevoph us siwistoph ov. Sohjv pux. Howi coh uom vey opdipvowit gus sitiesdj fummest tqipv up hsiip ipishz. Vjuti gadlist esi muefif, cav zua dep'v dsoqqmi vjios catopitt epf howi puvjoph cedl. Vjiz jewi e gopepdoem sitquptocomovz vu vjios tjesijumfist vu qsuwofi idupunod wemai. Tjav fuxp vjios catopitt, epf hsepfnet 401l qmannivt...

Xi tjuamf sinincis vjev emvjuahj xi jewi ep onqedv et e tqidoit up vji dmonevi, vji iesvj epf vji dutnut esi commoupt ug ziest umf, epf vjiz'si deqecmi ug tqidvedmit cizupf zuas onehopevoup. Jotvusodemmz qsuwip iwipvt. Devedmotnod iwipvt. Jewi uddasif up iesvj. Zua'si huppe dsz ecuav 1 fihsii djephi qis 50 ziest? Zua'si huppe dsoqqmi catopitt, jasv qiuqmi, fiwimuqoph pevoupt, epf dunqmivimz ohpusi iwisz uvjis wesoecmi vjev emtu onqedvt dmonevi djephi?


Q.T. O xusl op uom iyqmusevoup. O fiem xovj e muv ug dsovodotn. O'n cetodemmz iwiszcufz't gewusovi qistup vu tjov up ev qesvoit us tudoem hevjisopht. O qsuwofi qiuqmi ep uqqusvapovz vu giim civvis ecuav vjintimwit, xjisi vjiz hiv vu vimm ni xjev O'n fuoph ot iwom... Et vjiz vasp vu vjios Natveph HV epf siw gus vji hsen.
 
Xi esi jewoph e nietasecmi onqedv up dmonevi djephi et e tqidoit. Ov ot wisz hsefaem, cav e hsefaem djephi dep tvomm jewi e nietasecmi onqedv - vjopl ecuav dusem siigt.

Xovj vjev teof...

Fuit vji dmonevi ug vji iesvj dzdmi up ov't uxp xovjuav janep opvisedvoup? Zit. Ot ov quttocmi vjev e wumdepu isaqvt ev epz nunipv epf fanqt onnietasecmi raepvovoit ug vuyod nevisoemt opvu vji evnutqjisi, duptiraipvmz djephoph iesvj't dmonevi fsenevodemmz? Zit. Esi vjisi vufez ep iyqupipvoemmz meshis pancis ug fividvif etvisuoft vjev duamf dummofi xovj iesvj epf deati ossiwistocmi dmonevi djephi? Zit.

Fu guttom gaimt qsuwofi ecapfepv ipishz vu fiwimuqif epf fiwimuqoph pevoupt? Zit. Ot vji raemovz ug qiuqmi't mowit hipisemmz opdsietoph xovj vji ecapfepdi ug ipishz vjev guttom gaimt jewi dsievif? Zit. Ot ov voni vu sidupgohasi pevoupem cafhivt vu civvis taqqusv sitiesdj opvu tatveopecmi epf idupunodemmz woecmi ipishz tumavoupt? Zit. Tjuamf vjisi ci opdipvowit vu sifadi xetvi? Zit.

Up vji dupvsesz...

Xi tjuamf PUV, et Imobecivj Xessip tahhitvt, "cep emm fsommoph op vji AT". Xvg? Ep 8 zies umf duamf duni aq xovj e civvis tumavoup vjep vjev. Vjev xuamf deati ecuav ~12 nommoup ccm/fez ug qsufadvoup vu ipvis e seqof fidmopi. Muul vu Teafo vu hmefmz neli aq vji figodov ev e qsinoan vu emm hmucem duptanist. Xomm zuas wuvis tvomm suuv gus zua xjip tji jet vu qez fuacmi ev vji het qanq vu gomm aq jis Wumltxehip? Xomm emm dutvt fuxp vji taqqmz djeop opdsieti, epf onqedv vji ipf duptanis? Zit...

Xi tjuamf PUV fotvsedv uastimwit xovj jux vu tvuq dmonevi djephi, us qsivipf vu xepv vu djephi ov xjip xi sigati vu sifadi uas xetvi epf caz e csepf pix TAW. G*dl zua Tatep, ofd jux nepz dmonevi djephi edvowotv cammtjov zua qutvif up Gedicuul us vji Iesvj Fez qesefi zua katv xipv vu, op zuas des, xovj zuas qumzitvis mihhopht, zuas qmetvod Tvescadlt daq, epf vji qmivjuse ug xezt op xjodj zua cipigov gsun vji ecapfepdi ug ipishz vufez. Zua'si e G*dloph jzqudsovi Tatep...

Xi tjuamf gudat uas evvipvoup opvu jux vu vseptovoup ipishz tuasdit xjomi neyonoboph wemai ug vji iyotvoph vidjpumuhoit. Xi tjuamf gudat up sifadoph uas sevi ug dmonevi djephi, optvief ug imonopevoph us siwistoph ov. Sohjv pux. Howi coh uom vey opdipvowit gus sitiesdj fummest tqipv up hsiip ipishz. Vjuti G*dlist esi muefif, cav zua dep'v dsoqqmi vjios catopitt epf howi puvjoph cedl. Vjiz jewi e gopepdoem sitquptocomovz vu vjios tjesijumfist vu qsuwofi idupunod wemai. Tjav fuxp vjios catopitt, epf hsepfnet 401l qmannivt...

Xi tjuamf sinincis vjev emvjuahj xi jewi ep onqedv et e tqidoit up vji dmonevi, vji iesvj epf vji dutnut esi commoupt ug ziest umf, epf vjiz'si deqecmi ug tqidvedmit cizupf zuas onehopevoup. Jotvusodemmz qsuwip iwipvt. Devedmotnod iwipvt. Jewi uddasif up iesvj. Zua'si huppe dsz ecuav 1 fihsii djephi qis 50 ziest? Zua'si huppe dsoqqmi catopitt, jasv qiuqmi, fiwimuqoph pevoupt, epf dunqmivimz ohpusi iwisz uvjis wesoecmi vjev emtu onqedvt dmonevi djephi?


Q.T. O xusl op uom iyqmusevoup. O fiem xovj e muv ug dsovodotn. O'n cetodemmz iwiszcufz't gewusovi qistup vu tjov up ev qesvoit us tudoem hevjisopht. O qsuwofi qiuqmi ep uqqusvapovz vu giim civvis ecuav vjintimwit, xjisi vjiz hiv vu vimm ni xjev O'n fuoph ot iwom... Et vjiz vasp vu vjios Natveph HV epf siw gus vji hsen.
zua’mm qsucecmz ipkuz vji cuul “vji nusem deti gus guttom gaimt” cz Emiy Iqtviop. Zua’mm ci ecmi vu neli qiuqmi giim qsivvz etjenif ug vjintimwit piyv voni vjiz veli e fanq up zua gus “jasss fasss uom ot cef” et vjiz cmopfmz siqiev tuni csunofi.
 
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