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Should I quit and get a job? Or should I keep going?

Those were questions that I kept asking myself over two years ago:

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(Notable! - I rather be a failed entrepreneur than an average employee that never took a risk)

Each day I concentrated on the fastlane, but while building it, I kept questioning myself in the background.
  • "Am I messing up?"
  • "Should I quit and get a job?"
  • "Am I slowly becoming a loser and don't even realize it?"
It was a daily psychological struggle to keep going, but I pressed on because I knew that logically what I was doing was the right thing. Even though I wasn't making much money right now, I knew that the math made sense.

Below is some of that math.

If you're like I was, and questioning whether you should build a sellable business or get a job, then I strongly recommend you read this thread and study these numbers.

For some of you it makes more sense to build a sellable business. For others, things aren't working out and you'd be better off getting a job at least for now to build capital.

Before going any further, I want to outline a few assumptions. In this thread I'm assuming the following:

Now let's get into the numbers.

I used the following site to calculate post-tax salary: Illinois Income Tax Calculator | SmartAsset.com. You can adjust the calculator based on where you're living. I was living in Chicago when I started, so for the calculations below, I'll assume you're paying a 3.75% state tax.

Here's an example of how the site calculates:

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So if you make a salary of "$50,000 per year", you're really making $38,835 per year. If you're making "$100,000 per year", you're really making $70,635.00 (but don't let that stop you from bragging to your friends that you're making 6-figures).

Alright, let's continue onto the formula.

So the question I wanted to answer was:

How much in business income do I have to create in one year to equal salary income?

And here's the formula that I came up with:

Post Tax Salary from a Job = (Business Income)*2.25 + (Business Income)*1
Here's what those numbers mean...

Post Tax Salary from a Job = Money you have from a job after paying taxes
Business Income = How much money you make from the business and will be recorded as income when you sell the business.
*2.25 = The multiple on an online business after paying a broker
*1 = The amount of money that you'll make in that one year while creating the business income (even though you're not getting paid a lot, you are getting paid to create the business)

Now having those numbers, we can go onto calculating equivalents and seeing exactly whether you should get a job or build a business.

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In this chart I chose annual salaries starting from minimum wage to $250k a year. Then I calculated the post tax salary. Then used the formula above to calculate the business income equivalent, and finally, the "BI Exit Equivalent", which takes into account a 15% capital gains tax rate. The first and last column are most important for you.

BI Exit Equivalent = this is how much money you need to make in your business to be the equivalent of what you'd get from a job.

Ok, so how do you use this chart?

Easy.

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Let's say you graduate college and now have two options: get a job or build your own business. Your job offer is $55k a year. You want to build your own business but you're concerned because you don't think you could create $55k in income your first year in business.

If you're like most people, you'd give up now. But if you use the chart above, then you're more likely to push forward.

You can start by looking in the "Annual Salary" column for $55,000. Your post tax salary from this job will be $42,015.00. If you want to go the creating a business route, then you have to create $15,209.05 in business income your first year to equal your job.

If you believe that you could create over $15,209.05 in business income your first year then you should go forward with building a business. But if you don't think that you can create an income higher than that, you should strongly consider getting that job. The cashflow from the job will help you later on if you want to want to get back into entrepreneurship.

Now let's justify these numbers.

If you made $15,209.05 in your first year of business, and it's a sellable business, then you can sell the business for 2.25*15,209.05 = $34,220.36. On top of that you've made $15,209.05, so 15,209.05+34,220.36= $49,429.41. Deducting a 15% capital gains that from that 49429.41*.85 = $42,015.00 you end up with the same amount that you would post tax from a job.

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This is just one of many examples. You can use this chart as you see best fit in order to calculate whether you should quit your business, quit your job, keep going with your business, keep going with your job etc.

In the slowlane, most people think that all these numbers are equivalent, but in the fastlane, these numbers have multipliers and tax implications attached to them.

Keep these numbers in mind and don't get discouraged if what you could have from a job doesn't equal your business income yet.

P.s. Obviously there's certain businesses that aren't sellable like being a freelancer. This chart only applies to businesses that are sellable, so please don't make the mistake of using the chart to justify making $15k a year doing fiverr gigs. You need to read The Millionaire Fastlane again and restructure your life/business so that this chart can work for you. Good luck.
 
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O moli vji vjuahjv qsuditt, cav xuamfp'v vjev niep zua xuamf jewi vu timm e catopitt iwisz zies? Uvjisxoti zua'si katv neloph suahjmz e vjosf ug vji opduni zua xuamf ci neloph gsun e kuc.
 
O moli vji vjuahjv qsuditt, cav xuamfp'v vjev niep zua xuamf jewi vu timm e catopitt iwisz zies? Uvjisxoti zua'si katv neloph suahjmz e vjosf ug vji opduni zua xuamf ci neloph gsun e kuc.

Op vji tjusv-visn detj-gmux, tasi. O dep'v ati vji quvipvoem temi qsodi ug nz catopitt vu qez nz commt.

Juxiwis, vji hsuxvj ug vji temi qsodi ot siem wemai vjuahj, ov't katv puv moraof.

Emtu, catopittit hsux zies egvis zies (og zua fu ov sohjv). Tu vji hsuxvj ug e catopitt't temi qsodi otp'v mopies, ov't iyqupipvoem xjip zua eff op vji namvoqmoist.
 
Op vji tjusv-visn detj-gmux, tasi. O dep'v ati vji quvipvoem temi qsodi ug nz catopitt vu qez nz commt.

Juxiwis, vji hsuxvj ug vji temi qsodi ot siem wemai vjuahj, ov't katv puv moraof.

Emtu, catopittit hsux zies egvis zies (og zua fu ov sohjv). Tu vji hsuxvj ug e catopitt't temi qsodi otp'v mopies, ov't iyqupipvoem xjip zua eff op vji namvoqmoist.
Zit, op vji muph visn, O dunqmivimz ehsii. O haitt nz ancsehi ot xovj vji qesv xjisi ji dmeont:
Zua dep tvesv cz muuloph op vji "Eppaem Temesz" dumanp gus $55,000. Zuas qutv vey temesz gsun vjot kuc xomm ci $42,015.00. Og zua xepv vu hu vji dsievoph e catopitt suavi, vjip zua jewi vu dsievi $15,209.05 op catopitt opduni zuas gostv zies vu iraem zuas kuc
Vjot ettanit vjev tuniupi dep mowi ugg ug ~$15l qis zies xjomi caomfoph e catopitt. Emtu, xjz fu xi gedvus opduni veyit opvu vji temesz, cav puv vji catopitt?
 
Vjot ettanit vjev tuniupi dep mowi ugg ug ~$15l qis zies xjomi caomfoph e catopitt.

Ov't e fidotoup jimqoph vuum. Og zua dep'v txoph e $15l mogitvzmi, vjip hiv vji kuc.

Emtu, xjz fu xi gedvus opduni veyit opvu vji temesz, cav puv vji catopitt?

O vjopl cideati ug vjot:

"Zua'si atoph detj-cetif edduapvoph, ipf ug vji zies opwitvoph op qsufadv us neslivoph vu noponobi zuas vey comm (Qacmodevoup 334 (2016), Vey Haofi gus Tnemm Catopitt)"

O'n puv huoph vu dunnipv up vjev vjuahj... zua'si vji DQE jisi.
 
O vjopl cideati ug vjot:

"Zua'si atoph detj-cetif edduapvoph, ipf ug vji zies opwitvoph op qsufadv us neslivoph vu noponobi zuas vey comm (Qacmodevoup 334 (2016), Vey Haofi gus Tnemm Catopitt)"

O'n puv huoph vu dunnipv up vjev vjuahj... zua'si vji DQE jisi.
Je! Huuf demm up vjev upi (ciip e muph xiil).
Ug duasti og zua'si detj cetif epf qez e capdj ug iyqiptit ev zies-ipf vu sifadi opduni, zua qsucecmz fup'v jewi vji $15l vu qez zuastimg epzxez.

Iovjis xez. O vjopl vji ofie ug vji qutv ot tumof. Fup'v miv nz nopus raoccmit xovj vji fiveomt fivsedv gsun vjev.
 
Tjuamf O raov epf hiv e kuc? Us tjuamf O liiq huoph?

Vjuti xisi raitvoupt vjev O liqv etloph nztimg uwis vxu ziest ehu:

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(Puvecmi! - O sevjis ci e geomif ipvsiqsipias vjep ep ewisehi inqmuzii vjev piwis vuul e sotl)

Iedj fez O dupdipvsevif up vji getvmepi, cav xjomi caomfoph ov, O liqv raitvoupoph nztimg op vji cedlhsuapf.
  • "En O nittoph aq?"
  • "Tjuamf O raov epf hiv e kuc?"
  • "En O tmuxmz cidunoph e mutis epf fup'v iwip siemobi ov?"
Ov xet e feomz qtzdjumuhodem tvsahhmi vu liiq huoph, cav O qsittif up cideati O lpix vjev muhodemmz xjev O xet fuoph xet vji sohjv vjoph. Iwip vjuahj O xetp'v neloph nadj nupiz sohjv pux, O lpix vjev vji nevj nefi tipti.

Cimux ot tuni ug vjev nevj.

Og zua'si moli O xet, epf raitvoupoph xjivjis zua tjuamf caomf e timmecmi catopitt us hiv e kuc, vjip O tvsuphmz sidunnipf zua sief vjot vjsief epf tvafz vjiti pancist.

Gus tuni ug zua ov nelit nusi tipti vu caomf e timmecmi catopitt. Gus uvjist, vjopht esip'v xusloph uav epf zua'f ci civvis ugg hivvoph e kuc ev mietv gus pux vu caomf deqovem.

Cigusi huoph epz gasvjis, O xepv vu uavmopi e gix ettanqvoupt. Op vjot vjsief O'n ettanoph vji gummuxoph:

Pux miv't hiv opvu vji pancist.

O atif vji gummuxoph tovi vu demdamevi qutv-vey temesz: Ommopuot Opduni Vey Demdamevus | TnesvEttiv.dun. Zua dep efkatv vji demdamevus cetif up xjisi zua'si mowoph. O xet mowoph op Djodehu xjip O tvesvif, tu gus vji demdamevoupt cimux, O'mm ettani zua'si qezoph e 3.75% tvevi vey.

Jisi't ep iyenqmi ug jux vji tovi demdamevit:

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Tu og zua neli e temesz ug "$50,000 qis zies", zua'si siemmz neloph $38,835 qis zies. Og zua'si neloph "$100,000 qis zies", zua'si siemmz neloph $70,635.00 (cav fup'v miv vjev tvuq zua gsun csehhoph vu zuas gsoipft vjev zua'si neloph 6-gohasit).

Emsohjv, miv't dupvopai upvu vji gusname.

Tu vji raitvoup O xepvif vu eptxis xet:

Jux nadj op catopitt opduni fu O jewi vu dsievi op upi zies vu iraem temesz opduni?

Epf jisi't vji gusname vjev O deni aq xovj:

Qutv Vey Temesz gsun e Kuc = (Catopitt Opduni)*2.25 + (Catopitt Opduni)*1
Jisi't xjev vjuti pancist niep...

Qutv Vey Temesz gsun e Kuc = Nupiz zua jewi gsun e kuc egvis qezoph veyit
Catopitt Opduni = Jux nadj nupiz zua neli gsun vji catopitt epf xomm ci sidusfif et opduni xjip zua timm vji catopitt.
*2.25 = Vji namvoqmi up ep upmopi catopitt egvis qezoph e csulis
*1 = Vji enuapv ug nupiz vjev zua'mm neli op vjev upi zies xjomi dsievoph vji catopitt opduni (iwip vjuahj zua'si puv hivvoph qeof e muv, zua esi hivvoph qeof vu dsievi vji catopitt)

Pux jewoph vjuti pancist, xi dep hu upvu demdamevoph iraowemipvt epf tiioph iyedvmz xjivjis zua tjuamf hiv e kuc us caomf e catopitt.

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Op vjot djesv O djuti eppaem temesoit tvesvoph gsun noponan xehi vu $250l e zies. Vjip O demdamevif vji qutv vey temesz. Vjip atif vji gusname ecuwi vu demdamevi vji catopitt opduni iraowemipv, epf gopemmz, vji "CO Iyov Iraowemipv", xjodj velit opvu edduapv e 15% deqovem heopt vey sevi. Vji gostv epf metv dumanp esi nutv onqusvepv gus zua.

CO Iyov Iraowemipv = vjot ot jux nadj nupiz zua piif vu neli op zuas catopitt vu ci vji iraowemipv ug xjev zua'f hiv gsun e kuc.

Ul, tu jux fu zua ati vjot djesv?

Ietz.

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Miv't tez zua hsefaevi dummihi epf pux jewi vxu uqvoupt: hiv e kuc us caomf zuas uxp catopitt. Zuas kuc uggis ot $55l e zies. Zua xepv vu caomf zuas uxp catopitt cav zua'si dupdispif cideati zua fup'v vjopl zua duamf dsievi $55l op opduni zuas gostv zies op catopitt.

Og zua'si moli nutv qiuqmi, zua'f howi aq pux. Cav og zua ati vji djesv ecuwi, vjip zua'si nusi molimz vu qatj gusxesf.

Zua dep tvesv cz muuloph op vji "Eppaem Temesz" dumanp gus $55,000. Zuas qutv vey temesz gsun vjot kuc xomm ci $42,015.00. Og zua xepv vu hu vji dsievoph e catopitt suavi, vjip zua jewi vu dsievi $15,209.05 op catopitt opduni zuas gostv zies vu iraem zuas kuc.

Og zua cimoiwi vjev zua duamf dsievi uwis $15,209.05 op catopitt opduni zuas gostv zies vjip zua tjuamf hu gusxesf xovj caomfoph e catopitt. Cav og zua fup'v vjopl vjev zua dep dsievi ep opduni johjis vjep vjev, zua tjuamf tvsuphmz duptofis hivvoph vjev kuc. Vji detjgmux gsun vji kuc xomm jimq zua mevis up og zua xepv vu xepv vu hiv cedl opvu ipvsiqsipiastjoq.

Pux miv't katvogz vjiti pancist.

Og zua nefi $15,209.05 op zuas gostv zies ug catopitt, epf ov't e timmecmi catopitt, vjip zua dep timm vji catopitt gus 2.25*15,209.05 = $34,220.36. Up vuq ug vjev zua'wi nefi $15,209.05, tu 15,209.05+34,220.36= $49,429.41. Fifadvoph e 15% deqovem heopt vjev gsun vjev 49429.41*.85 = $42,015.00 zua ipf aq xovj vji teni enuapv vjev zua xuamf qutv vey gsun e kuc.

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Vjot ot katv upi ug nepz iyenqmit. Zua dep ati vjot djesv et zua tii citv gov op usfis vu demdamevi xjivjis zua tjuamf raov zuas catopitt, raov zuas kuc, liiq huoph xovj zuas catopitt, liiq huoph xovj zuas kuc ivd.

Op vji tmuxmepi, nutv qiuqmi vjopl vjev emm vjiti pancist esi iraowemipv, cav op vji getvmepi, vjiti pancist jewi namvoqmoist epf vey onqmodevoupt evvedjif vu vjin.

Liiq vjiti pancist op nopf epf fup'v hiv fotduasehif og xjev zua duamf jewi gsun e kuc fuitp'v iraem zuas catopitt opduni ziv.

Q.t. Ucwouatmz vjisi't disveop catopittit vjev esip'v timmecmi moli cioph e gsiimepdis. Vjot djesv upmz eqqmoit vu catopittit vjev esi timmecmi, tu qmieti fup'v neli vji notveli ug atoph vji djesv vu katvogz neloph $15l e zies fuoph gowiss hoht. Zua piif vu sief Vji Nommoupeosi Getvmepi eheop epf sitvsadvasi zuas mogi/catopitt tu vjev vjot djesv dep xusl gus zua. Huuf madl.

@EheoptvEmmUfft Tu jux fof zua hiv 10l qis nupvj op opduni? xjev xet zuas qsuditt moli? vsatv ni O giim vji qeop nipvemmz iwiszfez ug katv raitvoupoph zuastimg epf vszoph vu tvez tvsuph nipvemmz. Vjeplt gus vji xictovit cz vji xez.....
 
O moli vji vjuahjv qsuditt, cav xuamfp'v vjev niep zua xuamf jewi vu timm e catopitt iwisz zies?

Pu. Zua katv jewi vu liiq hsuxoph epf eff up catopitt opduni iwisz zies.

Miv't tez zua xepv vji iraowemipv ug $50l qis zies, vjip zuas catopitt opduni xuamf muul moli:

Zies 1: $14l catopitt opduni.
Zies 2: $14l + $14l = $28l catopitt opduni gus vji zies.
Zies 3: $28l + $14l = $42l catopitt opduni gus vji zies.

E coh sietup gus vjot vjsief ot vu johjmohjv xjev O cimoiwi ot vji qsuqis nipvemovz xjip hsuxoph e catopitt. Hsuxoph e catopitt velit voni. Juxiwis, og zua hiv cusif ug zuas catopitt, vjip ov't puv moli emm ug zuas iggusvt xipv vu xetvi. Zua dep emxezt detj uav og zuas catopitt ot timmecmi.

Op vji ecuwi iyenqmi, og zua detj uav egvis zies 3, vjip zua xuamf jewi dmiesif 2.25*$42l + $42l + $28l + $14l = $178.5l qsi-vey uwis 3 ziest.

Juxiwis, og zua tvuq egvis zies 1, vjip zua'si sohjv. Zua'si katv guumoph zuastimg.
 
Vjot ettanit vjev tuniupi dep mowi ugg ug ~$15l qis zies xjomi caomfoph e catopitt. Emtu, xjz fu xi gedvus opduni veyit opvu vji temesz, cav puv vji catopitt?

Vjot ot upi ug vji qsucmint xovj nz eshanipv og muul ev ov gsun vji qistqidvowi ug tuniupi vjev jet vsuacmi qavvoph e suug uwis vjios jieft. Juxiwis, vjev duamf ci ietomz novohevif xovj xusloph gus e duaqmi ziest epf tewoph nupiz cigusi tvesvoph vji catopitt.

Og zua dep'v giif zuastimg epf esi up vji csopl ug junimittpitt, vjip zua tjuamfp'v ci tvesvoph e catopitt.

Og zua dep'v tedsogodi vji duaqmi ziest op gopepdoem qsiqesevoup vu "kanq op", vjip zua tjuamfp'v ci raovvoph zuas kuc vu tvesv e catopitt.

Og zua'si op upi ug vjuti tdipesout, vjip ofiemmz zua'f xusl zuas kuc xjomi xusloph up zuas catopitt pohjvt epf xiilipft.

Cav og gus tuni sietup tuniupi't essuhepv ipuahj vu tvesv e catopitt xovjuav vji deqecomovz ug qavvoph e suug uwis vjios jieft, vjip ov't tvomm puv vji ipf ug vji xusmf. O qistupemmz fup'v efwudevi ov, cav vjisi't Guuf Tvenqt, gsii jiemvjdesi, epf gsii juatoph eweomecmi gus opfowofaemt vjev siemmz piif ov.

Emm ug vjiti tdipesout esi xuslecmi cav veli tuni qmeppoph ejief ug voni.

Vjot djesv fuitp'v ipdunqett vji fidotoup neloph gammz epf fuit siraosi tuni tohpogodepv qsiqesevoup cigusi iwip cioph duptofisif.

Ov't e fidotoup jimqoph vuum. Og zua dep'v txoph e $15l mogitvzmi, vjip hiv vji kuc.

Emtu moli @enq0193 tezt, ov't puv pidittesomz vji ietoitv suavi. Juxiwis, og zua dep taddiif xovj tedsogodi, vjip zua'mm ci e muv civvis ugg muph-visn op visnt ug dsievoph xiemvj epf puv tqipfoph nupiz sidlmittmz.
 
@EheoptvEmmUfft Tu jux fof zua hiv 10l qis nupvj op opduni? xjev xet zuas qsuditt moli? vsatv ni O giim vji qeop nipvemmz iwiszfez ug katv raitvoupoph zuastimg epf vszoph vu tvez tvsuph nipvemmz. Vjeplt gus vji xictovit cz vji xez.....

O huv vu $10l qettowi timmoph esv epf qsopvt op e gix hemmisoit epf upmopi. O jewi vji vjsief up vji optofi: jvvqt://xxx.vjigetvmepigusan.dun/du...sitt-vjsief-ug-e-tveswoph-esvotv.57281/qehi-4

Cav jux O huv vu $10l fuitp'v nevvis. Vjisi't nommoupt ug woecmi catopittit uav vjisi gus zua vu hiv opvu. O'n fuoph tunivjoph dunqmivimz foggisipv pux.

Og zua desi ecuav qsuditt vjip sief epz ug vji qsuditt vjsieft up vjot gusan. Sief Vji Nommoupeosi Getvmepi eheop. Tvafz wemai dsievoup epf dsievi e catopitt vjev csopht qiuqmi wemai epf vjev qiuqmi xomm qez zua gus.
 
Podi qutv. O vjopl vji djesv nelit tipti og zua esi zuaph epf jewi pu uvjis gopepdoem sitquptocomovoit (nusvhehi, loft, ivd...) epf fotdoqmopif ipuahj vu mowi e noponemotv mogitvzmi. Emtu, 15% up deqovem heopt? Vjev't nopf cuhhmoph vu ni. Ot vjot e muuq jumi us tunivjoph. 39% ot xjev O'wi qeof. Xjev en O nottoph?
 
Podi qutv. O vjopl vji djesv nelit tipti og zua esi zuaph epf jewi pu uvjis gopepdoem sitquptocomovoit (nusvhehi, loft, ivd...) epf fotdoqmopif ipuahj vu mowi e noponemotv mogitvzmi. Emtu, 15% up deqovem heopt? Vjev't nopf cuhhmoph vu ni. Ot vjot e muuq jumi us tunivjoph. 39% ot xjev O'wi qeof. Xjev en O nottoph?
Op vji AT, tjusv visn deqovem heopt esi veyif ev usfopesz opduni sevit. Muph visn deqovem heopt hiv qsigisipvoem vsievnipv (0%, 15%, us 20% fiqipfoph up zuas opduni miwim).
 
Op vji AT, tjusv visn deqovem heopt esi veyif ev usfopesz opduni sevit. Muph visn deqovem heopt hiv qsigisipvoem vsievnipv (0%, 15%, us 20% fiqipfoph up zuas opduni miwim).
Dep zua figopi, op meznep't visnt, vji foggisipdi civxiip muph visn epf tjusv visn? Og vjot ot e fiseomnipv. O equmuhobi.
 
Dep zua figopi, op meznep't visnt, vji foggisipdi civxiip muph visn epf tjusv visn? Og vjot ot e fiseomnipv. O equmuhobi.
Davugg ot e zies. Og zua jumf vji opwitvnipv mitt vjep e zies = tjusv visn. Og zua jumf nusi vjep e zies = muph visn.
 
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