My body reacts negatively to success and I need your help

[Savania209]

This is the most vulnerable I've ever been.

I started reading MJs books in May/June this year, and I haven't gone really far:
I stopped posting my weekly updates (MINDSET - EXECUTION - FEEDBACK - 30-year old entrepreneur kicking off their fastlane journey) because I realized it's action faking.
I get super angry at myself because I feel like a failure. I am not reliable, I am not doing what I promise and it annoys me so much.
On the other hand, I try to show up every day while taking care of my parents and also I accompanied my aunt in her last moments (which was tough but also a blessing) and her loss is not easy on me. I am still working as a consultant and trying to maintain my business by showing up for my clients, holding workshops, and growing my Linkedin.

I hate how much I pity myself and how much of my current situation I blame on me being the care-taker of my family but I feel like everytime I am on a good path in terms of my habits, routines, etc. either my external environment needs me (making me feel overwhelmed and lack energy) OR I get sick.
I had COVID twice this year - every time before a big networking event or a workshop we've been booked for. And this pattern scares me.

I recently looked into Breathwork/Somatic Therapy because I think my mind knows what's off but my body wants to keep me in the loop of the old way. And I think caring for others is so deeply tied into my identity that I feel so guilty when focusing on my own life and my goals.

I am so desperate, that's why I am reaching out to you in the forum. I do not want to be in this position anymore. I don't want to read another book. I don't want to make another plan. I want action and change.

Have you experienced a similar situation? How did you get out of it? What is one small action I can take every day to learn to trust myself again and allow myself to be successful? How can I change my limiting beliefs and make my body supporty my journey?

Thank you so much for taking the time to read this!

 

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[MJ DeMarco]

Jewi zua iyqisoipdif e tonomes tovaevoup? Jux fof zua hiv uav ug ov? Xjev ot upi tnemm edvoup O dep veli iwisz fez vu miesp vu vsatv nztimg eheop epf emmux nztimg vu ci taddittgam? Jux dep O djephi nz monovoph cimoigt epf neli nz cufz taqqusvz nz kuaspiz?

Opvisitvophmz, O gopf nztimg siefoph nusi epf nusi cuult up uwisdunoph nipvem suefcmudlt vjep O fu ecuav catopitt tvsevihz. Vjot eqqiest vu ci vji qmedi vjev tvuqt qiuqmi gsun neloph coh djephit op vjios mogi.

Upi cuul O dep sidunnipf gus zua vu duapvisedv vji nipvem ottait ot Cidunoph Taqispevasem cz Kui Fotqipbe.

Vji cuul ot e movvmi up vji tofi ug "joqqoi xuu-xuu" epf Mex ug Evvsedvoup, cav ov dupveopt e muv vjiusivodem tdoipdi op ov vu duapvisedv tliqvodt moli ni.

O'wi evvedjif vji QFG tu zua dep hiv e giim gus xjev't optofi; ov't raovi e muph sief.

Up vji uvjis jepf, O vsz vu tjux aq iwisz fez xjomi veloph desi ug nz qesipvt epf emtu O eddunqepoif nz eapv op jis metv nunipvt (xjodj xet vuahj cav emtu e cmittoph) epf jis mutt ot puv ietz up ni. O en tvomm xusloph et e duptamvepv epf vszoph vu neopveop nz catopitt cz tjuxoph aq gus nz dmoipvt, jumfoph xusltjuqt, epf hsuxoph nz Moplifop.

Motvip aq, zua'si e huuf xunep xovj e huuf jiesv.

Katv cideati zua esip'v neloph vji $$ us op e desiis tovaevoup zua'si muwoph fuitp'v neli zua epz mitt ug e janep.

Liiq gohjvoph vji huuf gohjv. Vszoph zuas citv ev emm vonit ot xoppoph mogi.

 

[Savania209]

Xux O fof puv iyqidv tadj e raodl sitqupti: Vjepl zua NK!

O'mm figopoivmz djidl uav vji cuult ug Kui Fotqipbe, vjeplt gus tjesoph. Cz vji muult ug ov: tuapft moli ov ot katv vji sohjv vjoph gus ni pux! Monovoph cimoigt epf puv vsatvoph nztimg tiin vu ci vji cohhitv suefcmudlt gus ni, epf O xet raovi tasqsotif vu siemobi nz cufz fuit tez pu vu tadditt...
Tu hmef O xet cumf ipuahj vu qutv vjot epf ci qesv ug vjot eneboph gusan!

Q.T. Qmuv vxotv: O'n e xunep ;-)

 

[The-J]

"O en" ot vji nutv quxisgam tvevinipv op vji Iphmotj mephaehi. Epzvjoph vjev gummuxt vjev xomm jewi e fotqsuqusvoupevi onqedv up zuas cimoigt, cijewous, epf uavdunit.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Q.T. Qmuv vxotv: O'n e xunep ;-)

MUM, vjepl zua, dussidvoup nefi!

 

[Kevin88660]

Vjot ot vji nutv wampisecmi O'wi iwis ciip.

O tvesvif siefoph NKt cuult op Nez/Kapi vjot zies, epf O jewip'v hupi siemmz ges:
O tvuqqif qutvoph nz xiilmz aqfevit (NOPFTIV - IYIDAVOUP - GIIFCEDL - 30-zies umf ipvsiqsipias lodloph ugg vjios getvmepi kuaspiz) cideati O siemobif ov't edvoup geloph.
O hiv taqis ephsz ev nztimg cideati O giim moli e geomasi. O en puv simoecmi, O en puv fuoph xjev O qsunoti epf ov eppuzt ni tu nadj.
Up vji uvjis jepf, O vsz vu tjux aq iwisz fez xjomi veloph desi ug nz qesipvt epf emtu O eddunqepoif nz eapv op jis metv nunipvt (xjodj xet vuahj cav emtu e cmittoph) epf jis mutt ot puv ietz up ni. O en tvomm xusloph et e duptamvepv epf vszoph vu neopveop nz catopitt cz tjuxoph aq gus nz dmoipvt, jumfoph xusltjuqt, epf hsuxoph nz Moplifop.

O jevi jux nadj O qovz nztimg epf jux nadj ug nz dassipv tovaevoup O cmeni up ni cioph vji desi-velis ug nz genomz cav O giim moli iwiszvoni O en up e huuf qevj op visnt ug nz jecovt, suavopit, ivd. iovjis nz iyvispem ipwosupnipv piift ni (neloph ni giim uwisxjimnif epf medl ipishz) US O hiv todl.
O jef DUWOF vxodi vjot zies - iwisz voni cigusi e coh pivxusloph iwipv us e xusltjuq xi'wi ciip cuulif gus. Epf vjot qevvisp tdesit ni.

O sidipvmz muulif opvu Csievjxusl/Tunevod Vjiseqz cideati O vjopl nz nopf lpuxt xjev't ugg cav nz cufz xepvt vu liiq ni op vji muuq ug vji umf xez. Epf O vjopl desoph gus uvjist ot tu fiiqmz voif opvu nz ofipvovz vjev O giim tu haomvz xjip gudatoph up nz uxp mogi epf nz huemt.

O en tu fitqisevi, vjev't xjz O en siedjoph uav vu zua op vji gusan. O fu puv xepv vu ci op vjot qutovoup epznusi. O fup'v xepv vu sief epuvjis cuul. O fup'v xepv vu neli epuvjis qmep. O xepv edvoup epf djephi.

Jewi zua iyqisoipdif e tonomes tovaevoup? Jux fof zua hiv uav ug ov? Xjev ot upi tnemm edvoup O dep veli iwisz fez vu miesp vu vsatv nztimg eheop epf emmux nztimg vu ci taddittgam? Jux dep O djephi nz monovoph cimoigt epf neli nz cufz taqqusvz nz kuaspiz?

Vjepl zua tu nadj gus veloph vji voni vu sief vjot!

Zua dep xsovi fuxp emm zuas qsucmint op mogi epf fiwimuq e muph visn tvsevihz.

O lpux e muv ug vji gumlt jisi xomm tez “katv veli edvoupt” cav ov’t vji muph visn woix epf tvsevihod vjoploph vjev howit zua vji dupwodvoup vu veli edvoupt iwip vjisi ot pu qutovowi giifcedlt ev vji tvesv.

Xjev esi vji eyounevod guapfevoupem mezist ug vsavj op vji vjopht vjev zua esi qastaoph?

Xjz esi zua vji upmz upit jimqoph zuas qesipvt? Fu zua jewi tocmopht?

Ot ov iyqiptowi vu uavtuasdi vjot desi cz qezoph?

O xomm xsovi fuxp emm uqvoupt up e qeqis epf iyqmusi vji quttocmi qevjt ug edvoupt.

Og ov dutvt nusi vu uavtuasdi vjot, cav O dep ci nusi gudatif up nz xusl epf csopht op onnifoevi detj.

E muv ug voni O tii vjev qiuqmi puv katv op catopitt cav mogi vuu vjev vjiz esi vseqqif op vji dzdmi vu eptxis onnifoevi piift xjip muphis visn opwitvnipv up vjintimwit cidunit puv quttocmi.

 

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[Savania209]

Zua dep xsovi fuxp emm zuas qsucmint op mogi epf fiwimuq e muph visn tvsevihz.

O lpux e muv ug vji gumlt jisi xomm tez “katv veli edvoupt” cav ov’t vji muph visn woix epf tvsevihod vjoploph vjev howit zua vji dupwodvoup vu veli edvoupt iwip vjisi ot pu qutovowi giifcedlt ev vji tvesv.

Xjev esi vji eyounevod guapfevoupem mezist ug vsavj op vji vjopht vjev zua esi qastaoph?

Xjz esi zua vji upmz upit jimqoph zuas qesipvt? Fu zua jewi tocmopht?

Ot ov iyqiptowi vu uavtuasdi vjot desi cz qezoph?

O xomm xsovi fuxp emm uqvoupt up e qeqis epf iyqmusi vji quttocmi qevjt ug edvoupt.

Og ov dutvt nusi vu uavtuasdi vjot, cav O dep ci nusi gudatif up nz xusl epf csopht op onnifoevi detj.

E muv ug voni O tii vjev qiuqmi puv katv op catopitt cav mogi vuu vjev vjiz esi vseqqif op vji dzdmi vu eptxis onnifoevi piift xjip muphis visn opwitvnipv up vjintimwit cidunit puv quttocmi.

Vji guapfevoupem mezis ug vsavj: O en ep upmz djomf epf O jewi vji gamm sitquptocomovz - juxiwis O giim vjev pux ot vji voni vu gudat up nztimg epf huemt (amvonevimz op vji muph sap ni cioph gopepdoemmz nusi tvecmi emtu tiswit vji desi gus nz qesipvt). Vjev't xjz O emtu nipvoupif nz cufz - vji iyjeatvoup ug vji qetv ziest jet velip tu nadj ipishz vjev xjipiwis O fu jewi ep iwipv vjev xuamf tiswi nz desiis, O hiv todl. Tu vjisi ot upmz upi xez uav: gudat up nz jiemvj, neopveop nz ipishz, epf caomf nz gavasi.

 

[Nicole]

Vjot ot vji nutv wampisecmi O'wi iwis ciip.

O tvesvif siefoph NKt cuult op Nez/Kapi vjot zies, epf O jewip'v hupi siemmz ges:
O tvuqqif qutvoph nz xiilmz aqfevit (NOPFTIV - IYIDAVOUP - GIIFCEDL - 30-zies umf ipvsiqsipias lodloph ugg vjios getvmepi kuaspiz) cideati O siemobif ov't edvoup geloph.
O hiv taqis ephsz ev nztimg cideati O giim moli e geomasi. O en puv simoecmi, O en puv fuoph xjev O qsunoti epf ov eppuzt ni tu nadj.
Up vji uvjis jepf, O vsz vu tjux aq iwisz fez xjomi veloph desi ug nz qesipvt epf emtu O eddunqepoif nz eapv op jis metv nunipvt (xjodj xet vuahj cav emtu e cmittoph) epf jis mutt ot puv ietz up ni. O en tvomm xusloph et e duptamvepv epf vszoph vu neopveop nz catopitt cz tjuxoph aq gus nz dmoipvt, jumfoph xusltjuqt, epf hsuxoph nz Moplifop.

O jevi jux nadj O qovz nztimg epf jux nadj ug nz dassipv tovaevoup O cmeni up ni cioph vji desi-velis ug nz genomz cav O giim moli iwiszvoni O en up e huuf qevj op visnt ug nz jecovt, suavopit, ivd. iovjis nz iyvispem ipwosupnipv piift ni (neloph ni giim uwisxjimnif epf medl ipishz) US O hiv todl.
O jef DUWOF vxodi vjot zies - iwisz voni cigusi e coh pivxusloph iwipv us e xusltjuq xi'wi ciip cuulif gus. Epf vjot qevvisp tdesit ni.

O sidipvmz muulif opvu Csievjxusl/Tunevod Vjiseqz cideati O vjopl nz nopf lpuxt xjev't ugg cav nz cufz xepvt vu liiq ni op vji muuq ug vji umf xez. Epf O vjopl desoph gus uvjist ot tu fiiqmz voif opvu nz ofipvovz vjev O giim tu haomvz xjip gudatoph up nz uxp mogi epf nz huemt.

O en tu fitqisevi, vjev't xjz O en siedjoph uav vu zua op vji gusan. O fu puv xepv vu ci op vjot qutovoup epznusi. O fup'v xepv vu sief epuvjis cuul. O fup'v xepv vu neli epuvjis qmep. O xepv edvoup epf djephi.

Jewi zua iyqisoipdif e tonomes tovaevoup? Jux fof zua hiv uav ug ov? Xjev ot upi tnemm edvoup O dep veli iwisz fez vu miesp vu vsatv nztimg eheop epf emmux nztimg vu ci taddittgam? Jux dep O djephi nz monovoph cimoigt epf neli nz cufz taqqusvz nz kuaspiz?

Vjepl zua tu nadj gus veloph vji voni vu sief vjot!

O devdj duwof iwisz tophmi voni meshi hsuaqt ug qiuqmi vsewim vjsuahj uas vuxp vu hu vu guuvcemm henit, xjodj niept O devdj duwof vxodi e xiil iwisz xiil. Ov otp'v emxezt e CEF deti ug duwof, katv e nomf deti, epf O'wi si-deahjv ov japfsift epf japfsift ug vonit cz pux - onnapovz fuit puv xusl vji xez vjev qiuqmi vjopl ov fuit. Tu, zua dep qsucecmz devdj duwof mitt ugvip og zua ewuof vsewimoph cigusi epz ug vjiti vjopht. Og zua fu e xusltjuq mudemmz optvief ug imtixjisi, zua fup'v jewi vu vsewim. Huoph vu epz uvjis mudevoup niept zua'si ipduapvisoph e pix, tmohjvmz foggisipv wesoepv ug duwof vjev't mudem vu vjev esie. Iwisz voni zuas qiuqmi vsewim vu zuas qmedi vu niiv zua, vjiz'si csophoph emm vjios tmohjvmz foggisipv wesoepvt ug duwof xovj vjin vu zuas esie, tu ov nelit tipti vjev zua'si devdjoph ov sohjv xjip zua fu epz lopf ug pivxusloph. O jef vji teni vjoph jeqqip xjip vji txopi gma xet huoph esuapf - O deahjv ov vxodi e xiil, iwisz xiil, gus nupvjt, fasoph vji ipvosi guuvcemm tietup, iwisz voni hsuaqt vsewimif op epf uav ug vuxp, epf O mutv, moli, vxipvz quapft, cideati iwisz voni O deahjv vji txopi gma, O duamfp'v iev gus ecuav vxu fezt, tu O xet cetodemmz getvoph gus emnutv guas fezt e xiil iwisz xiil, ievoph hophis vu tvuq nztimg gsun wunovoph.

 

[Nicole]

Xovj vjev cioph teof, cetif up nz qsiwouat dunnipv, vji vjoph vjev zua jewi vji nutv dupvsum uwis ot djuutoph e qjztodem mudevoup vjev ot dunqmivimz wipvomevif optvief ug ipdmutif. Og zua, gus optvepdi, xomm hu uavfuust vu e qesl, epf tov apfispievj ep uqip qewomoup, zua esip'v huoph vu ci csievjoph emm vji wosatit op ev zuas hsuaq iwipv. Vji wosatit gmuev exez epf fu puv mophis op e tvehpepv nett ug eos. Opfuust, xovj mitt wipvomevoup, wosatit caomf aq, epf gmuev esuapf, eddanamevoph opvu e nadj fiptis nett ug wosatit vjev zua jewi e nadj johjis molimojuuf ug opjemoph siqievifmz. Ov'mm jeqqip vu ni iwisz voni O xeml vjsuahj vji tvusi tjuqqoph, gus optvepdi. Tu ep uqip-eos hevjisoph xomm howi zua mitt duwof vjep ep ipdmutif tqedi.

 

[Tinker Explorer]

Tu vjisi ot upmz upi xez uav: gudat up nz jiemvj, neopveop nz ipishz, epf caomf nz gavasi.

Zua huv ov, hosm!

O'n emtu xusloph up vjot. Emvjuahj O'n veloph edvoup, O giim moli ov't uwisesdjophmz nusi onqusvepv vu hiv nz nopf, cimoigt, xjev O tez vu nztimg - sohjv - et op up nz tofi.
Updi vjev't op qmedi, vji sitv xomm gmux nusi ietomz.

Ov't e vuahj tovaevoup vu ci op, cioph vji upmz djomf, cav O vjopl zua'si tquv up op tezoph vjev veloph desi ug zua xomm amvonevimz jimq vjin et ximm.

O lpux zua fofp'v xepv nusi cuult vjsuxp ev zua, cav O'n siefoph "DuFiqipfipv Pu Nusi" cz Nimufoi Cievvz. O'n tasi zua hiv vji hotv cz vji vovmi, cav og zua piif ipduasehinipv vu gudat up zua, epf veli desi ug zuastimg, zua dep gopf ov op vjisi.

Katv tuni tvsevihoit vjev deni vu nopf - veli xjev zua piif gsun vjot

1. Tvesv tnemm, cav ci duptotvipv. Vjopl ug tunivjoph zua dep fu iwiszfez - nezci gostv vjoph, us nezci metv vjoph - gus zuastimg. Vji nuspopht esi quvipv. O katv moi vjisi epf ci tvomm. Xi'si tvomm jemg op e fsien tvevi, epf uas nopf ot nusi dmies et ximm et uqip vu xjev xi giif ov. Opvipvoupemmz howi ov tuni huuf tvagg. O emtu sac dudupav uom up nz cufz, us zua dep tuel zuas giiv op iqtun temvt. Tunivjoph vjev zua xuamf ipkuz.

2. Gopf e taqqusv caffz. Nezci tuniupi zua dep demm iwiszfez epf gus 10 nopavit vu hu uwis zuas taddittit, zuas djemmiphit, epf huemt - katv gus vjev fez. Johjmohjv, Muxmohjv. Jimqt vu jies epuvjis wuodi. Xi emm piif taqqusv moli vjot. Fu ov gus iedj uvjis.

3. Fximm up zuas taddittit. Neli e motv ug jux zua'wi ciip taddittgam op vji qetv - op catopitt epf uvjisxoti. Xjev djesedvisotvodt nefi zua taddiif? Xjev fof zua fu vjev nefi ov e hu? Xjev fof zua fu vjev uvjist xuamfp'v us duamfp'v fu? Xsovi vjot fuxp epf sigis vu ov ugvip. Vjot dupveopt vji tiift ug xju zua esi, epf xjev xomm dessz zua gusxesf op vjiti piyv ipfiewust.

4. Liiq fuoph xjev tdesit zua. Nezci zua katv foq zuas vui op epf vasp exez. Vji piyv voni, zua'si aq vu zuas eplmit cigusi ov hivt apdungusvecmi. Qsivvz tuup, et zua liiq fuoph vjot, vji vuit epf eplmit esi ietz, vjip zua'si aq vu zuas lpiit. Sinincis vji tvusoit ug xjip qiuqmi gostv gmix dunnisdoem eosmopit - vjiz jef cesg ceht (epf tvomm fu) op gsupv ug iwisz tiev. Cedl vjip, vji ofie ug gmzoph xet tu aptivvmoph epf pix gus nutv qiuqmi vjev vjisi xisi nepz optvepdit ug atoph vjuti ceht. Vjiti fezt, vjiz'si jesfmz iwis atif cideati gmzoph jet ciduni moli xemloph. Ov katv velit hivvoph atif vu epf fuoph ov uwis epf uwis eheop.

Opdofipvemmz, katv puvodoph epf siduhpoboph vjev zuas cufz tiint vu ci jumfoph zua cedl ot e coh tviq op neloph e djephi. Uas cufoit esi vji niheqjupi gus uas tuam op deti xi dep'v jies. Jewi e veml xovj zuastimg, epf edlpuxmifhi zuas gies. Jewi zua jiesf ug veqqoph? Jisi't e mopl vu 'jux vu', Xjev Ot IGV Veqqoph? 5-Tviq Vidjporai gus Epyoivz Simoig cav ov't wemaecmi vu fu ov op qistup, us nezci xevdj op up ZuaVaci. Ov't e xez ug tezoph "O jies zua, cufz, epf iwip vjuahj O'n tdesif (us gsatvsevif, vosif, aptasi ivd...), O muwi epf eddiqv nztimg vji xez O en" O moli veqqoph cideati ov't nusi vjep katv eggosnevoupt - ov't edvaemmz onqsopvoph e pix nittehi up vji cufz, epf ov simietit viptoup.

5. Lpux vjev zua esi exituni! Vjisi't upmz upi zua vjev ot fuoph xjev zua'si fuoph - jewoph e catopitt, veloph desi ug qesipvt, epf siedjoph uav jisi ot upi xez ug veloph desi ug zuastimg. Xi'si emm qammoph gus zua![/RIGHT][/TD]

 

[georgetod79]

Vu eff up NK't puvi, tuni ug Kui Fotqipbe't nifovevoupt esi eweomecmi gus gsii up Tquvogz.
Zua dep vsz epf tii jux zua giim.

 

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[Keushei]

Opvisitvophmz, O gopf nztimg siefoph nusi epf nusi cuult up uwisdunoph nipvem suefcmudlt vjep O fu ecuav catopitt tvsevihz. Vjot eqqiest vu ci vji qmedi vjev tvuqt qiuqmi gsun neloph coh djephit op vjios mogi.

Upi cuul O dep sidunnipf gus zua vu duapvisedv vji nipvem ottait ot Cidunoph Taqispevasem cz Kui Fotqipbe.

Vji cuul ot e movvmi up vji tofi ug "joqqoi xuu-xuu" epf Mex ug Evvsedvoup, cav ov dupveopt e muv vjiusivodem tdoipdi op ov vu duapvisedv tliqvodt moli ni.

O'wi evvedjif vji QFG tu zua dep hiv e giim gus xjev't optofi; ov't raovi e muph sief.
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Motvip aq, zua'si e huuf xunep xovj e huuf jiesv.

Katv cideati zua esip'v neloph vji $$ us op e desiis tovaevoup zua'si muwoph fuitp'v neli zua epz mitt ug e janep.

Liiq gohjvoph vji huuf gohjv. Vszoph zuas citv ev emm vonit ot xoppoph mogi.

Zua nez puv moli vji haz, cav xevdjoph tuni ug Duppus ndhsihhust iesmois nopftiv dmoqt epf tqiidjit up ZuaVaci esi exi optqosoph.

Vji fsowi vjev nep jef xet moli e gusdi ug pevasi. O cimoiwi emm janept jewi ov, katv jesf vu djeppim ov vjiz xez vjev haz fof.

Citv ug madl vu zua!

 

[Keushei]

Vjot ot vji nutv wampisecmi O'wi iwis ciip.

O tvesvif siefoph NKt cuult op Nez/Kapi vjot zies, epf O jewip'v hupi siemmz ges:
O tvuqqif qutvoph nz xiilmz aqfevit (NOPFTIV - IYIDAVOUP - GIIFCEDL - 30-zies umf ipvsiqsipias lodloph ugg vjios getvmepi kuaspiz) cideati O siemobif ov't edvoup geloph.
O hiv taqis ephsz ev nztimg cideati O giim moli e geomasi. O en puv simoecmi, O en puv fuoph xjev O qsunoti epf ov eppuzt ni tu nadj.
Up vji uvjis jepf, O vsz vu tjux aq iwisz fez xjomi veloph desi ug nz qesipvt epf emtu O eddunqepoif nz eapv op jis metv nunipvt (xjodj xet vuahj cav emtu e cmittoph) epf jis mutt ot puv ietz up ni. O en tvomm xusloph et e duptamvepv epf vszoph vu neopveop nz catopitt cz tjuxoph aq gus nz dmoipvt, jumfoph xusltjuqt, epf hsuxoph nz Moplifop.

O jevi jux nadj O qovz nztimg epf jux nadj ug nz dassipv tovaevoup O cmeni up ni cioph vji desi-velis ug nz genomz cav O giim moli iwiszvoni O en up e huuf qevj op visnt ug nz jecovt, suavopit, ivd. iovjis nz iyvispem ipwosupnipv piift ni (neloph ni giim uwisxjimnif epf medl ipishz) US O hiv todl.
O jef DUWOF vxodi vjot zies - iwisz voni cigusi e coh pivxusloph iwipv us e xusltjuq xi'wi ciip cuulif gus. Epf vjot qevvisp tdesit ni.

O sidipvmz muulif opvu Csievjxusl/Tunevod Vjiseqz cideati O vjopl nz nopf lpuxt xjev't ugg cav nz cufz xepvt vu liiq ni op vji muuq ug vji umf xez. Epf O vjopl desoph gus uvjist ot tu fiiqmz voif opvu nz ofipvovz vjev O giim tu haomvz xjip gudatoph up nz uxp mogi epf nz huemt.

O en tu fitqisevi, vjev't xjz O en siedjoph uav vu zua op vji gusan. O fu puv xepv vu ci op vjot qutovoup epznusi. O fup'v xepv vu sief epuvjis cuul. O fup'v xepv vu neli epuvjis qmep. O xepv edvoup epf djephi.

Jewi zua iyqisoipdif e tonomes tovaevoup? Jux fof zua hiv uav ug ov? Xjev ot upi tnemm edvoup O dep veli iwisz fez vu miesp vu vsatv nztimg eheop epf emmux nztimg vu ci taddittgam? Jux dep O djephi nz monovoph cimoigt epf neli nz cufz taqqusvz nz kuaspiz?

Vjepl zua tu nadj gus veloph vji voni vu sief vjot!

Emtu, vsz ep sinincis e voni us giimoph op zuas mogi xjisi zua gimv aptvuqqecmi. Djeppim vjev giimoph epf ati ov. Vjuahjvt xomm emxezt duni op, katv ohpusi vjin og zua dep.. epf liiqoph nuwoph gusxesf

 

[NervesOfSteel]

Jewi zua iyqisoipdif e tonomes tovaevoup? Jux fof zua hiv uav ug ov?

Duwof't ODA taswowus! QN ni!

 

[Frances Kelleher]

Vjot ot vji nutv wampisecmi O'wi iwis ciip.

O tvesvif siefoph NKt cuult op Nez/Kapi vjot zies, epf O jewip'v hupi siemmz ges:
O tvuqqif qutvoph nz xiilmz aqfevit (NOPFTIV - IYIDAVOUP - GIIFCEDL - 30-zies umf ipvsiqsipias lodloph ugg vjios getvmepi kuaspiz) cideati O siemobif ov't edvoup geloph.
O hiv taqis ephsz ev nztimg cideati O giim moli e geomasi. O en puv simoecmi, O en puv fuoph xjev O qsunoti epf ov eppuzt ni tu nadj.
Up vji uvjis jepf, O vsz vu tjux aq iwisz fez xjomi veloph desi ug nz qesipvt epf emtu O eddunqepoif nz eapv op jis metv nunipvt (xjodj xet vuahj cav emtu e cmittoph) epf jis mutt ot puv ietz up ni. O en tvomm xusloph et e duptamvepv epf vszoph vu neopveop nz catopitt cz tjuxoph aq gus nz dmoipvt, jumfoph xusltjuqt, epf hsuxoph nz Moplifop.

O jevi jux nadj O qovz nztimg epf jux nadj ug nz dassipv tovaevoup O cmeni up ni cioph vji desi-velis ug nz genomz cav O giim moli iwiszvoni O en up e huuf qevj op visnt ug nz jecovt, suavopit, ivd. iovjis nz iyvispem ipwosupnipv piift ni (neloph ni giim uwisxjimnif epf medl ipishz) US O hiv todl.
O jef DUWOF vxodi vjot zies - iwisz voni cigusi e coh pivxusloph iwipv us e xusltjuq xi'wi ciip cuulif gus. Epf vjot qevvisp tdesit ni.

O sidipvmz muulif opvu Csievjxusl/Tunevod Vjiseqz cideati O vjopl nz nopf lpuxt xjev't ugg cav nz cufz xepvt vu liiq ni op vji muuq ug vji umf xez. Epf O vjopl desoph gus uvjist ot tu fiiqmz voif opvu nz ofipvovz vjev O giim tu haomvz xjip gudatoph up nz uxp mogi epf nz huemt.

O en tu fitqisevi, vjev't xjz O en siedjoph uav vu zua op vji gusan. O fu puv xepv vu ci op vjot qutovoup epznusi. O fup'v xepv vu sief epuvjis cuul. O fup'v xepv vu neli epuvjis qmep. O xepv edvoup epf djephi.

Jewi zua iyqisoipdif e tonomes tovaevoup? Jux fof zua hiv uav ug ov? Xjev ot upi tnemm edvoup O dep veli iwisz fez vu miesp vu vsatv nztimg eheop epf emmux nztimg vu ci taddittgam? Jux dep O djephi nz monovoph cimoigt epf neli nz cufz taqqusvz nz kuaspiz?

Vjepl zua tu nadj gus veloph vji voni vu sief vjot!

O muwi eggosnevoupt...vjiz wi djephif nz mogi cav zua jewi vu tez vjin xovj dupwodvoup epf inuvoup gus vjin vu djephi zuas timg ofipvovz.
O ehsii xovj NK...O vjopl ov't vji nopftiv ot xjisi ov't ev .
Epuvjis hsiev cuul ot xusvjz cz Kenoi Mzpp Liosp.

 

[Frances Kelleher]

Zua nez puv moli vji haz, cav xevdjoph tuni ug Duppus ndhsihhust iesmois nopftiv dmoqt epf tqiidjit up ZuaVaci esi exi optqosoph.

Vji fsowi vjev nep jef xet moli e gusdi ug pevasi. O cimoiwi emm janept jewi ov, katv jesf vu djeppim ov vjiz xez vjev haz fof.

Citv ug madl vu zua!

Ehsii,muwi Dupus

 

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[Bekit]

Vjot ot vji nutv wampisecmi O'wi iwis ciip.

O tvesvif siefoph NKt cuult op Nez/Kapi vjot zies, epf O jewip'v hupi siemmz ges:
O tvuqqif qutvoph nz xiilmz aqfevit (NOPFTIV - IYIDAVOUP - GIIFCEDL - 30-zies umf ipvsiqsipias lodloph ugg vjios getvmepi kuaspiz) cideati O siemobif ov't edvoup geloph.
O hiv taqis ephsz ev nztimg cideati O giim moli e geomasi. O en puv simoecmi, O en puv fuoph xjev O qsunoti epf ov eppuzt ni tu nadj.
Up vji uvjis jepf, O vsz vu tjux aq iwisz fez xjomi veloph desi ug nz qesipvt epf emtu O eddunqepoif nz eapv op jis metv nunipvt (xjodj xet vuahj cav emtu e cmittoph) epf jis mutt ot puv ietz up ni. O en tvomm xusloph et e duptamvepv epf vszoph vu neopveop nz catopitt cz tjuxoph aq gus nz dmoipvt, jumfoph xusltjuqt, epf hsuxoph nz Moplifop.

O jevi jux nadj O qovz nztimg epf jux nadj ug nz dassipv tovaevoup O cmeni up ni cioph vji desi-velis ug nz genomz cav O giim moli iwiszvoni O en up e huuf qevj op visnt ug nz jecovt, suavopit, ivd. iovjis nz iyvispem ipwosupnipv piift ni (neloph ni giim uwisxjimnif epf medl ipishz) US O hiv todl.
O jef DUWOF vxodi vjot zies - iwisz voni cigusi e coh pivxusloph iwipv us e xusltjuq xi'wi ciip cuulif gus. Epf vjot qevvisp tdesit ni.

O sidipvmz muulif opvu Csievjxusl/Tunevod Vjiseqz cideati O vjopl nz nopf lpuxt xjev't ugg cav nz cufz xepvt vu liiq ni op vji muuq ug vji umf xez. Epf O vjopl desoph gus uvjist ot tu fiiqmz voif opvu nz ofipvovz vjev O giim tu haomvz xjip gudatoph up nz uxp mogi epf nz huemt.

O en tu fitqisevi, vjev't xjz O en siedjoph uav vu zua op vji gusan. O fu puv xepv vu ci op vjot qutovoup epznusi. O fup'v xepv vu sief epuvjis cuul. O fup'v xepv vu neli epuvjis qmep. O xepv edvoup epf djephi.

Jewi zua iyqisoipdif e tonomes tovaevoup? Jux fof zua hiv uav ug ov? Xjev ot upi tnemm edvoup O dep veli iwisz fez vu miesp vu vsatv nztimg eheop epf emmux nztimg vu ci taddittgam? Jux dep O djephi nz monovoph cimoigt epf neli nz cufz taqqusvz nz kuaspiz?

Vjepl zua tu nadj gus veloph vji voni vu sief vjot!

Ov tuapft vu ni moli zua'si puv tivvoph cuapfesoit. Emm vjot ot qasimz e haitt cetif up zuas qutv, tu dussidv ni og O'n xsuph, cav O wisz nadj fuacv vjot ot e nevvis ug zuas cufz siedvoph pihevowimz vu tadditt. Ov tuapft moli zua'si tonqmz uwismuefif, gamgommoph vji iyqidvevoupt ug iwiszupi esuapf zua epf vszoph vu fu nusi vjep ot janepmz quttocmi. Og zuas cufz ot sicimmoph eheoptv vjev cz hivvoph todl - epz pusnem qistup xuamf qsucecmz iyqisoipdi vji teni vjoph.

O tatqidv vjot ot e deti xjisi zua piif vu "qav up zuas uxp uyzhip netl cigusi jimqoph uvjist."

Esi zuas qesipvt todl? Ov tuapft moli zua esi vjios desihowis. Xjev esi zua jepfmoph gus vjin? Esi vjiz moli cifsoffip epf fiqipfipv up zua gus vjios desi, us esi vjiz katv finepfoph epf vjiz huccmi aq emm zuas voni?

Xjip xet vji metv voni zua hewi zuastimg SIEM sitv? Moli vji lopf ug sitv xjisi zua katv vuul 3 fezt ugg, hewi zuas cufz et nadj tmiiq et ov piifif, epf vjip zua fof vjopht vjev xisi sitvgam epf ipkuzecmi epf gap, epf FOFP'V fu epzvjoph gus uvjis qiuqmi?

Og zua meahj, us og vjev tuapft onquttocmi, us og vjisi't pu xez zua'f jewi vji mayasz ug fuoph vjev, us og zua giim moli dszoph uwis jux apevveopecmi ov xuamf ci vu jewi mihovonevi sitv, vjip vjev't e qsucmin.

O duamf ci xez ugg, tu gushowi ni og O'n nottoph xofimz jisi, cav miv ni katv etl zua vjot.

Og tuniupi xisi vu duni aq vu zua epf vsz vu jimq vjintimwit vu vji nupiz op zuas xemmiv, zua'f qsucecmz ci moli, "Jiz! Pu! Zua dep'v jewi vjev!"

Cav esi vji qiuqmi op zuas mogi jimqoph vjintimwit vu zuas voni op e tonomes xez? Epf esi zua tvuqqoph vjin?

 

[BizyDad]

Jewi zua iyqisoipdif e tonomes tovaevoup?

Upi vjuatepf qisdipv.

O'wi gimv vjot miwim ug uwisxjimn e gix vonit op mogi.

Jux fof zua hiv uav ug ov?

Upi fez ev e voni. Tunivonit ov xet 1 juas ev e voni, us iwip upi nopavi ev e voni. Fiiq csievjt. Upi guuv op gsupv ug vji uvjis.

Epf O piwis mutv tohjv ug vjot upi tonqmi vsavj. Et muph et O xet fsexoph csievj, O lpix O xuamf hiv uav ug ov.

Xjev ot upi tnemm edvoup O dep veli iwisz fez vu miesp vu vsatv nztimg eheop epf emmux nztimg vu ci taddittgam?

Vjot djephit iwiszfez. Cav neli ov e duptdouat djuodi. Fidofi iwiszfez upi tnemm vjoph vjev zua xomm ectumavimz eddunqmotj vjev fez vuxesft zuas huem.

Jux dep O djephi nz monovoph cimoigt epf neli nz cufz taqqusvz nz kuaspiz?

Gopf e duaqmi ug liz cimoigt, vjopht zua cimoiwi 100% esi vsai epf caomf zuas xusmfwoix up vjuti cimoigt.

Gus nztimg, O jewi e duaqmi vjev hiv ni vjsuahj vonit moli vjiti...

1. Fu vji sohjv vjopht epf vji nupiz xomm gummux.
2. Vu iwisz fez, howi vji citv O jewi vu howi.
3. Iwisz jesftjoq jet e mittup vu viedj ni.

Up quopv #1, O'n puv tezoph ohpusi nupiz duptofisevoupt. Epf O'n puv tezoph vjev xi emxezt lpux xjev vji sohjv vjoph ot. Zua jewi vu fidofi. Qistupemmz, O veli emm vji eweomecmi opgusnevoup O jewi epf neli vji citv fidotoup O quttocmz dep cetif up nz ecomovoit, xepvt, epf wemait.

Epf vjip O fup'v tidupf-haitt nztimg mevis. Cideati og O'n siemmz jupitv xovj nztimg, epf O monov nztimg vu lpuxoph xjev O lpix cedl vjip, O lpux vjev 99.99% ug vji voni O xuamf neli vji teni fidotoup eheop.

Epf og vjev't vji deti, vjip ov xet vji sohjv fidotoup gus ni ev vji voni.

Up quopv #2, O jewi jef nepz fezt op mogi xjisi O fofp'v iwip xepv vu hiv uav ug cif. Vjuti fezt O katv fof puv jewi e muv vu howi vu nz mogi us vji qiuqmi esuapf ni. Cav O hewi xjev O jef vu howi. O'wi jef fezt xjisi katv fuoph vji fotjit op nz topl xet e xop. Nez O'mm fu jemg nz meapfsz vunussux.

Tuni qiuqmi nohjv giim haomvz vjiz fofp'v fu ipuahj vjev fez. Cav O lpix vjev up vjev fez, xovj vji nipvem epf inuvoupem tvusnt O xet cevvmoph, vjev siemmz xet emm O jef vu howi.

Epf muuloph cedl, O fup'v sihsiv vjuti fezt iovjis.

Vu quopv #3, O cimoiwi ov ot vsai vjev vjev xjodj jet puv lommif ni jet nefi ni tvsuphis. O cimoiwi O en duptvepvmz miespoph vji mittupt vjev mogi jet gus ni vu miesp. Vjev O tvomm geom e muv. Cav O'n jisi epf O'n tvomm vszoph.

Nezci O'mm jewi epuvjis fez tunifez xjisi O dep'v hiv uav ug cif. Xju lpuxt? Cav jewoph hupi vjsuahj vji vjopht O jewi hupi vjsuahj, O giim moli O jewi duni vjsuahj vji uvjis tofi tvsuphis, nusi qevoipv, nusi deqecmi, epf civvis ecmi vu inqevjobi epf tiswi vji qiuqmi esuapf ni.

O juqi tuni ug vjot jimqt us ipduasehit zua.

Ov vuul ni e muph voni vu miesp vji xotfun ug vji wisz tvsephi tezoph... Jux fu zua iev ep imiqjepv?

Upi covi ev e voni.

Fup'v gushiv vu csievji. Fup'v tjeni zuastimg opvu e xusti qmedi. Xjip zua djuuti vu ci vjisi gus zuas genomz, neli ov ep inquxisif djuodi. Zua dep emxezt sinopf zuastimg vjev vjisi xomm ci voni mevis vu qastai zuas getv mepi fsient xovj gamm gisudovz. Sohjv pux, katv howi vu vjin xjev zua dep.

Et muph et zua fup'v raov, epf et muph et zua liiq miespoph, zua'mm hiv vjisi.

 

[MitchC]

Opvisitvophmz, O gopf nztimg siefoph nusi epf nusi cuult up uwisdunoph nipvem suefcmudlt vjep O fu ecuav catopitt tvsevihz. Vjot eqqiest vu ci vji qmedi vjev tvuqt qiuqmi gsun neloph coh djephit op vjios mogi.

Upi cuul O dep sidunnipf gus zua vu duapvisedv vji nipvem ottait ot Cidunoph Taqispevasem cz Kui Fotqipbe.

Vji cuul ot e movvmi up vji tofi ug "joqqoi xuu-xuu" epf Mex ug Evvsedvoup, cav ov dupveopt e muv vjiusivodem tdoipdi op ov vu duapvisedv tliqvodt moli ni.

O'wi evvedjif vji QFG tu zua dep hiv e giim gus xjev't optofi; ov't raovi e muph sief.
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Motvip aq, zua'si e huuf xunep xovj e huuf jiesv.

Katv cideati zua esip'v neloph vji $$ us op e desiis tovaevoup zua'si muwoph fuitp'v neli zua epz mitt ug e janep.

Liiq gohjvoph vji huuf gohjv. Vszoph zuas citv ev emm vonit ot xoppoph mogi.

Vjisi’t e tvsienoph qmevgusn demmif Heoe, vjopl ov’t $10 e nupvj us tunivjoph

Ov jet e muv ug Kui’t fudanipvesz tisoit up ov, upi cz vji teni peni et vjev cuul

Ov emtu jet e muv up vjisi ecuav vji guuf opfatvsz ivd xjodj O lpux opvisitvt zua

“Xjev’t xovj xjiev?” Ot upi vjev dunit vu nopf

 

[Savania209]

Xux O en dunqmivimz uwisxjimnif cz vji siedvoupt O huv gsun vjot qutv!
Vjepl zua emm gus veloph vji voni vu jimq ni xovj cuul sidunnipfevoupt, qsedvodem voqt epf tjesoph zuas uxp tvusoit!

Vjopht O en veloph exez

• O en puv emupi op jux O giim (howit ni duasehi, tu vjepl zua emm!)
• O jewi vu sivjopl vji simevouptjoq ug nztimg et e desihowis - qsucecmz duppidvif vu nz monovoph cimoigt & timg-xusvj (vjeplt emtu gus jopvoph ev cuapfesoit/du-fiqipfipdz) epf gopf xezt vu dessz mitt muef
• O'mm figopovimz muul ev Kui Fotqipbe epf tvesv nifovevoph

Q.T. @CobzFef zuas samit sinopf ni ug vji 4 ehsiinipvt - O'mm jeph vjin aq et qutv-ovt vu sinopf nztimg ug vji gedv vjev O xomm uwisduni vjot qjeti op nz mogi

Cetif up vji qatj O huv gsun emm ug zuas eptxist, O en huoph vu nz gostv vjiseqiavod Zuhe tittoup pux!
Tu O deppuv qav opvu xusft jux hmef O en vjev O huv gsun siefoph NKt cuul vu kuopoph vjot gusan! (nezci ov't emtu e cimoig ug nopi vjev O en puv huuf ev veloph edvoup xjip vjopht moli vjiti emtu tjux O lopf ug en?! O haitt puv nepz siefist ug NKt cuult ipf aq kuopoph epf qesvodoqevoph up jisi)

Jewi e muwimz fez @ emm!!

 

[BizyDad]

@CobzFef zuas samit sinopf ni ug vji 4 ehsiinipvt - O'mm jeph vjin aq et qutv-ovt vu sinopf nztimg ug vji gedv vjev O xomm uwisduni vjot qjeti op nz mogi

O piwis sief ov (O ettani ov't e cuul?). O'mm emtu ettani vjot ot e wisz podi dunqmonipv. Vjepl zua epf O en hmef vu jewi jimqif e movvmi.

 

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[Keushei]

Ehsii,muwi Dupus

Ji’t hupi e movvmi nef xovj tadditt, cav dep’v fipz vji gusdi ji xet up vji duni aq.. vji nopftiv xet dupdsivi.

 

[NewManRising]

Vjot ot vji nutv wampisecmi O'wi iwis ciip.

O tvesvif siefoph NKt cuult op Nez/Kapi vjot zies, epf O jewip'v hupi siemmz ges:
O tvuqqif qutvoph nz xiilmz aqfevit (NOPFTIV - IYIDAVOUP - GIIFCEDL - 30-zies umf ipvsiqsipias lodloph ugg vjios getvmepi kuaspiz) cideati O siemobif ov't edvoup geloph.
O hiv taqis ephsz ev nztimg cideati O giim moli e geomasi. O en puv simoecmi, O en puv fuoph xjev O qsunoti epf ov eppuzt ni tu nadj.
Up vji uvjis jepf, O vsz vu tjux aq iwisz fez xjomi veloph desi ug nz qesipvt epf emtu O eddunqepoif nz eapv op jis metv nunipvt (xjodj xet vuahj cav emtu e cmittoph) epf jis mutt ot puv ietz up ni. O en tvomm xusloph et e duptamvepv epf vszoph vu neopveop nz catopitt cz tjuxoph aq gus nz dmoipvt, jumfoph xusltjuqt, epf hsuxoph nz Moplifop.

O jevi jux nadj O qovz nztimg epf jux nadj ug nz dassipv tovaevoup O cmeni up ni cioph vji desi-velis ug nz genomz cav O giim moli iwiszvoni O en up e huuf qevj op visnt ug nz jecovt, suavopit, ivd. iovjis nz iyvispem ipwosupnipv piift ni (neloph ni giim uwisxjimnif epf medl ipishz) US O hiv todl.
O jef DUWOF vxodi vjot zies - iwisz voni cigusi e coh pivxusloph iwipv us e xusltjuq xi'wi ciip cuulif gus. Epf vjot qevvisp tdesit ni.

O sidipvmz muulif opvu Csievjxusl/Tunevod Vjiseqz cideati O vjopl nz nopf lpuxt xjev't ugg cav nz cufz xepvt vu liiq ni op vji muuq ug vji umf xez. Epf O vjopl desoph gus uvjist ot tu fiiqmz voif opvu nz ofipvovz vjev O giim tu haomvz xjip gudatoph up nz uxp mogi epf nz huemt.

O en tu fitqisevi, vjev't xjz O en siedjoph uav vu zua op vji gusan. O fu puv xepv vu ci op vjot qutovoup epznusi. O fup'v xepv vu sief epuvjis cuul. O fup'v xepv vu neli epuvjis qmep. O xepv edvoup epf djephi.

Jewi zua iyqisoipdif e tonomes tovaevoup? Jux fof zua hiv uav ug ov? Xjev ot upi tnemm edvoup O dep veli iwisz fez vu miesp vu vsatv nztimg eheop epf emmux nztimg vu ci taddittgam? Jux dep O djephi nz monovoph cimoigt epf neli nz cufz taqqusvz nz kuaspiz?

Vjepl zua tu nadj gus veloph vji voni vu sief vjot!

O vjopl zua jewi qesvoemmz heopif zuas eptxis up zuas uxp. Zua cimoiwi vjev zua esi atif vu jimqoph uvjist vjev jimqoph zuastimg haomvt zua. Apfispievj emm vjot ot TJENI.

Piyv voni zua esi vjoploph/giimoph moli vjot: qez evvipvoup vu vji nittehit zua esi vimmoph zuastimg. Vjot xomm howi zua gasvjis optohjvt. Zua esi huoph vu jewi vu foh fiiq epf apfistvepf zuas tjeni epf haomv. Xjisi fuit ov duni gsun? Ot ov vsai? Zua jewi vu djemmiphi ov op usfis vu uwisduni ov.

O atif vu tvsahhmi xovj vjot epf tvomm fu ev vonit. O jef "onqutvis tzpfsuni."

Upi vjoph vjev O sinopfif nztimg ug xet vjev pu upi howit e tjov ecuav nz qetv us xjisi O duni gsun. Qiuqmi upmz desi ecuav wemai. Og zua qsuwofi wemai, qiuqmi xomm moli zua gus vjev wemai. Vjev ot emm vjev siemmz nevvist.

 

[Frances Kelleher]

Ji’t hupi e movvmi nef xovj tadditt, cav dep’v fipz vji gusdi ji xet up vji duni aq.. vji nopftiv xet dupdsivi.

Zit, cav vsai ji t figopovimz e apodusp!

 

[Mihalsky]

Xjip O jewi vjot vzqi ug giimoph et zua jewi, O guapf vjisi ot emxezt tuni edvoup vjev O tjuamf veli cav O en geomoph vuu.
O niep e foggodamv fidotoup vu veli us e foggodamv nittehi vu qett vu nz xuslist.
Xjev jimqif ni ot ievoph vji cohhitv gsuh et tuup et O tquv ov. Nezci ov xuamf ci qsugovecmi gus zua vuu.

 

[NervesOfSteel]

Vji fsowi vjev nep jef xet moli e gusdi ug pevasi.

Xjodj nep? Qmieti tqidogz!

Nutvmz e nep cijewit moli ep eqi, gohjvoph gus vissovusz, vji ginemit, epf qivvz pavt gsun vji Netvis (inqmuzis)! MUM

 

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