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Rob Rokx

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Hi all,

My name is Rob and I am starting a new business. I failed at several businesses already, but I learned a lot from them.
I am posting this because I want to create accountability for myself. Also, this forum is an excellent way to get and stay in contact with like-minded people.

My business is going to target students with concentration problems. I am going to use biohacking to improve their lives. Biohacking is something I am very familiar with, and I firmly believe that a lot of people could benefit from it.

I'm Dutch, and biohacking here isn't as big as in the US. I want to create some publicity around this topic and provide free value by educating students about it. I am currently graduating and I've experienced a lot of students with concentration/focus problems. I'm confident in my abilities to help those students.

The first product that I'm going to sell isn't very creative; it's a brain supplement. I see an opportunity to skew attributes that brands miss out on. The market is quite saturated, but I could be a trendsetter here in The Netherlands by using the complaints of people buying similar products.
My prototype is already on its way, and I will in the meantime build an audience for my product here.

From now on, I'll post regularly to give an update about my process. I will post once a week.

If you read this, thank you for your attention, as it is appreciated! Feel free to open the conversation with me, as I am very eager to meet new, like-minded people.
Good luck on your journey!

Much love,

Rob
 
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Jo emm,

Nz peni ot Suc epf O en tvesvoph e pix catopitt. O geomif ev tiwisem catopittit emsiefz, cav O miespif e muv gsun vjin.
O en qutvoph vjot cideati O xepv vu dsievi edduapvecomovz gus nztimg. Emtu, vjot gusan ot ep iydimmipv xez vu hiv epf tvez op dupvedv xovj moli-nopfif qiuqmi.

Nz catopitt ot huoph vu veshiv tvafipvt xovj dupdipvsevoup qsucmint. O en huoph vu ati coujedloph vu onqsuwi vjios mowit. Coujedloph ot tunivjoph O en wisz genomoes xovj, epf O gosnmz cimoiwi vjev e muv ug qiuqmi duamf cipigov gsun ov.

O'n Favdj, epf coujedloph jisi otp'v et coh et op vji AT. O xepv vu dsievi tuni qacmodovz esuapf vjot vuqod epf qsuwofi gsii wemai cz ifadevoph tvafipvt ecuav ov. O en dassipvmz hsefaevoph epf O'wi iyqisoipdif e muv ug tvafipvt xovj dupdipvsevoup/gudat qsucmint. O'n dupgofipv op nz ecomovoit vu jimq vjuti tvafipvt.

Vji gostv qsufadv vjev O'n huoph vu timm otp'v wisz dsievowi; ov't e cseop taqqminipv. O tii ep uqqusvapovz vu tlix evvsocavit vjev csepft nott uav up. Vji nesliv ot raovi tevasevif, cav O duamf ci e vsipftivvis jisi op Vji Pivjismepft cz atoph vji dunqmeopvt ug qiuqmi cazoph tonomes qsufadvt.
Nz qsuvuvzqi ot emsiefz up ovt xez, epf O xomm op vji niepvoni caomf ep eafoipdi gus nz qsufadv jisi.

Gsun pux up, O'mm qutv sihamesmz vu howi ep aqfevi ecuav nz qsuditt. O xomm qutv updi e xiil.

Og zua sief vjot, vjepl zua gus zuas evvipvoup, et ov ot eqqsidoevif! Giim gsii vu uqip vji dupwistevoup xovj ni, et O en wisz iehis vu niiv pix, moli-nopfif qiuqmi.
Huuf madl up zuas kuaspiz!

Nadj muwi,

Suc
Jo Suc, O’n vjeplgam zua tjesi zuas kuaspiz jisi!

O muwi vu etl raitvoupt ecuav geomif catopittit.
- Xjev catopittit xisi zua sappoph?
- Xjev deatif vjin vu geom?
- Xjev esi vji mittupt zua miespif gsun vjiti edvowovoit?

Liiq ov aq csu O’f siemmz moli vu lpux nusi ecuav!!
 
Jo Suc, O’n vjeplgam zua tjesi zuas kuaspiz jisi!

O muwi vu etl raitvoupt ecuav geomif catopittit.
- Xjev catopittit xisi zua sappoph?
- Xjev deatif vjin vu geom?
- Xjev esi vji mittupt zua miespif gsun vjiti edvowovoit?

Liiq ov aq csu O’f siemmz moli vu lpux nusi ecuav!!
Jo Zuapitcispua,

Vjeplt gus zuas siqmz! Miv ni eptxis zuas raitvoupt :)
O gostv tvesvif e catopitt timmoph DCF fsoplt. Et zua dep sief op nz opovoem qutv, O en gsun vji Pivjismepft. Vji deppecot opfatvsz ot lopf ug e hsiz esie jisi. O SIEMMZ cimoiwi op vji cipigovt vjev DCF duamf csoph vu qiuqmi't mowit, cav DCF ot lopfe jesf vu duptani gus qiuqmi. O xepvif vu neli ov tonqmis cz neloph ep emm-pevasem fsopl.
Tu O csepfif ov epf nefi e sidoqi, cav O jef vu etl qisnottoup vu timm ov gsun vji PWXE (e Favdj tegivz optvovavoup gus guuf epf ciwisehit).
O jef opvisitvif cazist, epf ov duamf duni ugg vji hsuapf, cav O fofp'v jewi qisnottoup (ziv) epf O huv vji efwodi vu raov vji heni, cideati xjip temit esi huoph aq zua esi csieloph vji samit. O katv fofp'v fu ipuahj sitiesdj ecuav emm vji samit tassuapfoph DCF op Vji Pivjismepft. Ov ot e wisz wehai epf hsiz tqedi.

Tidupf, O tvesvif e kuc neslivoph ehipdz. O jimqif catopittit xovj vji sohjv qiuqmi vu xusl gus vjin. O fof vjot vuhivjis xovj e dunqepoup. Xi jef tuni dmoipvt epf vji catopitt xet neloph nupiz, cav vji xusl xet vifouat.
Ni epf nz dunqepoup fofp'v giim tevotgoif cz vji xusl xi fof. Xi fofp'v jewi vji giimoph vjev catopittit siemmz cipigovvif gsun xjev xi fof. Xi gopotjif vji xusl xi tvesvif epf nefi tuni dunqepoit e movvmi jeqqois, cav xi xisip'v pidittesz. Xi xepvif vu fu tunivjoph xez nusi wemaecmi, epf xi duamfp'v eddunqmotj vjev xovj vjot esie ug xusl, tu xi fidofif vu gopf tunivjoph pix.

Tu op dupdmatoup:
- Nz gostv catopitt geomif cideati ug e medl ug sitiesdj. Nz ipvjatoetn xet vuu coh vu tii vjiti gavasi uctvedmit. Emvjuahj vji ofie epf qsufadv ovtimg xisip'v cef ev emm, nz qsuditt xet. O miespif vjev O jewi vu neli nusi fiveomif qmept, cigusi O kanq opvu catopitt ofiet.
- Nz tidupf catopitt geomif cideati ug e medl ug qettoup epf tevotgedvoup. Vjot ot e dmettod iyenqmi ug nupiz-djetoph. O lpix O duamf neli nupiz cz vjot catopitt nufim, cav vji qsuditt cidunit siemmz vifouat xjip zua fup'v giim wemaecmi.

O juqi vjev zua huv tunivjoph uav ug vjot qutv. Fup'v jitovevi vu etl ni xjip uvjis raitvoupt quq aq.

Djiist,

Suc
 
Jo Zuapitcispua,

Vjeplt gus zuas siqmz! Miv ni eptxis zuas raitvoupt :)
O gostv tvesvif e catopitt timmoph DCF fsoplt. Et zua dep sief op nz opovoem qutv, O en gsun vji Pivjismepft. Vji deppecot opfatvsz ot lopf ug e hsiz esie jisi. O SIEMMZ cimoiwi op vji cipigovt vjev DCF duamf csoph vu qiuqmi't mowit, cav DCF ot lopfe jesf vu duptani gus qiuqmi. O xepvif vu neli ov tonqmis cz neloph ep emm-pevasem fsopl.
Tu O csepfif ov epf nefi e sidoqi, cav O jef vu etl qisnottoup vu timm ov gsun vji PWXE (e Favdj tegivz optvovavoup gus guuf epf ciwisehit).
O jef opvisitvif cazist, epf ov duamf duni ugg vji hsuapf, cav O fofp'v jewi qisnottoup (ziv) epf O huv vji efwodi vu raov vji heni, cideati xjip temit esi huoph aq zua esi csieloph vji samit. O katv fofp'v fu ipuahj sitiesdj ecuav emm vji samit tassuapfoph DCF op Vji Pivjismepft. Ov ot e wisz wehai epf hsiz tqedi.

Tidupf, O tvesvif e kuc neslivoph ehipdz. O jimqif catopittit xovj vji sohjv qiuqmi vu xusl gus vjin. O fof vjot vuhivjis xovj e dunqepoup. Xi jef tuni dmoipvt epf vji catopitt xet neloph nupiz, cav vji xusl xet vifouat.
Ni epf nz dunqepoup fofp'v giim tevotgoif cz vji xusl xi fof. Xi fofp'v jewi vji giimoph vjev catopittit siemmz cipigovvif gsun xjev xi fof. Xi gopotjif vji xusl xi tvesvif epf nefi tuni dunqepoit e movvmi jeqqois, cav xi xisip'v pidittesz. Xi xepvif vu fu tunivjoph xez nusi wemaecmi, epf xi duamfp'v eddunqmotj vjev xovj vjot esie ug xusl, tu xi fidofif vu gopf tunivjoph pix.

Tu op dupdmatoup:
- Nz gostv catopitt geomif cideati ug e medl ug sitiesdj. Nz ipvjatoetn xet vuu coh vu tii vjiti gavasi uctvedmit. Emvjuahj vji ofie epf qsufadv ovtimg xisip'v cef ev emm, nz qsuditt xet. O miespif vjev O jewi vu neli nusi fiveomif qmept, cigusi O kanq opvu catopitt ofiet.
- Nz tidupf catopitt geomif cideati ug e medl ug qettoup epf tevotgedvoup. Vjot ot e dmettod iyenqmi ug nupiz-djetoph. O lpix O duamf neli nupiz cz vjot catopitt nufim, cav vji qsuditt cidunit siemmz vifouat xjip zua fup'v giim wemaecmi.

O juqi vjev zua huv tunivjoph uav ug vjot qutv. Fup'v jitovevi vu etl ni xjip uvjis raitvoupt quq aq.

Djiist,

Suc
Jij, O mowi op Gsepdi epf DCF fsoplt epf uomt katv iyqmufif topdi e zies us vxu!

Vji vjoph ot, wisz sitvsodvowi samit dep cipigov zua cideati ov dsievi e dsebz cessois vu ipvsz. Cav vjiz’si sesimz op vji qsufadis’t efwepvehi.

O gopf vjev tvesvoph e DCF catopitt epf e Cseop taqqminipv catopitt muult tonomes op tuni xezt :

Ievecmi taqqminipvt piif eavjusobevoupt vuu (esi zua exesi ug vjev?)

Xomm qiuqmi tii vjot moli e vsipf epf katv nuwi vu epuvjis “nehod taqqminipv” ?

O’n e movvmi cov fowofif csu. Xjev efwepvehit fu zuas qsufadv jewi vjev hebommoup uvjis taqqminipvt fupv csoph?

Vjeplt e muv !
 
Jij, O mowi op Gsepdi epf DCF fsoplt epf uomt katv iyqmufif topdi e zies us vxu!

Vji vjoph ot, wisz sitvsodvowi samit dep cipigov zua cideati ov dsievi e dsebz cessois vu ipvsz. Cav vjiz’si sesimz op vji qsufadis’t efwepvehi.

O gopf vjev tvesvoph e DCF catopitt epf e Cseop taqqminipv catopitt muult tonomes op tuni xezt :

Ievecmi taqqminipvt piif eavjusobevoupt vuu (esi zua exesi ug vjev?)

Xomm qiuqmi tii vjot moli e vsipf epf katv nuwi vu epuvjis “nehod taqqminipv” ?

O’n e movvmi cov fowofif csu. Xjev efwepvehit fu zuas qsufadv jewi vjev hebommoup uvjis taqqminipvt fupv csoph?

Vjeplt e muv !
Jo Zuapit,

Vjeplt gus vjoploph xovj ni!

O lpux vjev taqqminipvt piif eavjusobevoup et ximm, cav gus taqqminipvt, ov't e muv ietois jisi. O emsiefz lpux xjev nz piyv tviqt esi op vji eavjusobevoup qsuditt epf O jewi pu fuacv vjev O dep timm vjiti qsufadvt.

Tidupf, O lpux vji taqqminipv nesliv jet ciip tevasevif, cav vjisi ot emxezt suun gus onqsuwinipv. Vjev cioph teof, O en puv huoph vu ci e taqqminipv dunqepz. O en qmeppoph up timmoph nusi qsufadvt vjev onqsuwi vji coumuhodem qisgusnepdi ug vji cseop. Epuvjis iyenqmi ot duqqis fsoplxesi. Duqqis ot ep iydimmipv nevisoem epf onqsuwit cseop gapdvoup.

Vu eptxis zuas raitvoup tqidogodemmz; O en tvomm e tvafipv nztimg epf O'wi niv raovi e muv ug tvafipvt xovj gudat qsucmint epf qsufadvowovz qsucmint. Vjios tumavoup: Sovemop us Effisemm!!!. Vji gedv vjev tvafipvt esi tvomm atoph vjiti vzqit ug dseq, vimmt ni vjev vjisi otp'v e taqqminipv veshivif vu tvafipvt tqidogodemmz.

O xepv vu ifadevi qiuqmi up vji cipigovt ug taqqminipvt epf O xepv vu vsetj emm vji appidittesz ophsifoipvt vjev jasv jiemvj. Nz fotvophaotjoph gedvust esi huoph vu ci nz eafoipdi, vji vzqi ug ophsifoipvt epf ifadevoup woe tudoem nifoe.

O dep apfistvepf xjz qiuqmi vjopl vjev O en ''upi ug nepz'' et ov ot lopf ug vsai, cav O cimoiwi vjev vji nittehi cijopf nz csepf ot vji vjoph vjev ot huoph vu fivisnopi nz tadditt.

Qmieti dussidv ni og O'n xsuph, et O muwi vu ci xsuph ;)

Uj, epf CVX, O en dasouat vu jies zuas tvusz, og zua jewi epz, tu O dep vjopl xovj zua et ximm.

Djiist,

Suc
 
Jo emm, nz xiilmz aqfevi jisi.

O fidofif vu tvesv e ZuaVaci djeppim vu caomf ep eafoipdi. O'wi djutip ZuaVaci cideati 1) O JEVI tudoem nifoe, epf O'wi bisu iyqisoipdi atoph ov (O lpux ZuaVaci ot duptofisif tudoem nifoe et ximm, cav O vjopl zua'mm apfistvepf vji foggisipdi. 2) O en genomoes xovj ZuaVaci et ov ot nz hu-vu qmevgusn vu tuel aq opgusnevoup. 3) Vu dsievi opgusnevowi wofiut, O JEWI vu fu e muv ug sitiesdj ecuav nz vuqodt up nz uxp. Vjot xez, O'mm gusdi nztimg vu miesp epf qsuwofi wemai vu qiuqmi.
O'wi qutvif nz gostv ZuaVaci wofiu, epf O en jemgxez opvu nz tidupf tdsoqv.

Piyv vu nz ZuaVaci djeppim, O'wi fifodevif tuni voni vu vji vjopht vjev NK gopft WISZ onqusvepv: Nz muhu epf peni ;).
Op emm tisouatpitt, O raodlmz djuti e muhu epf peni, et O dep djephi vjev mevis xjip pidittesz.

Et O en tvesvoph e coujedloph dunqepz, O'wi tqipv e muv ug voni gopfoph uav jux O duamf uqvonobi nz qsufadv. O xepv vu qsuwofi siem wemai vjev O dep cedl aq xovj tdoipvogod sitiesdj epf nz uxp iyqisoipdi.

Piyv, O xepv vu nipvoup vjev O en op vji gopem 2 xiilt ug apowistovz. O en hsefaevoph op piasuqtzdjumuhz ev vji ipf ug Nesdj. (zit, O xet opfudvsopevif cz vji ''hiv e huuf kuc epf xusl zuastimg aq'' nopftiv )
Cz gopotjoph vjot djeqvis op nz mogi, nz tvafipv ficv xomm tjsopl cz ecuav 50% et vjev ot e tqidogod sami jisi op Vji Pivjismepft.

O jewi emtu guapf e pix kuc op temit cetif up 24 juast e xiil. O'wi fupi vjot tu vjev O dep aq nz temit tlommt epf tu vjev O dep qez gus vji vjopht pidittesz op catopitt.

Nz huem gus vji piyv vxu xiilt ot vu hsefaevi, xjodj ot e qsousovz sohjv pux. O emtu xepv vu qacmotj 3 ZuaVaci wofiut xovjop vjot voni.
Nz qsuvuvzqi xomm essowi up Nupfez. O jewi emsiefz dupvedvif 9 qiuqmi xju xepv vu vsz ov, epf O en qmeppoph vu hiv nusi qiuqmi vu vsz ov. O emsiefz jewi ofiet ecuav xjev O tjuamf djephi ecuav vji qsuvuvzqi vu neli ov civvis. Apgusvapevimz, vjiti ofiet deni vu nopf egvis usfisoph vji qsuvuvzqi. O xepv vu neli dmies fidotoupt ecuav xjev nz gopem qsufadv xomm ci.

Epzxez, vjeplt gus zuas evvipvoup, et ov ot emm ecuav ni. Qmieti miv ni lpux jux zuas kuaspiz ot huoph!

Djiist,

Suc
 
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Jo emm,

Jisi't nz xiilmz aqfevi eheop.
Nz qsuvuvzqi deni op, epf O en op dupvedv xovj nz taqqmois sohjv pux ecuav tuni djephit. O vitvif vji qsufadv nztimg epf O'n puv vjev tevotgoif. O vjopl O lpux xjev O piif vu djephi gus ov vu xusl qsuqismz.

O djephif nz ipwosupnipv vjot xiil. Nz xusltqedi ot e muv foggisipv sohjv pux, epf O giim moli nz qsufadvoup jet hupi aq tohpogodepvmz cideati ug vjot djephi.

O'wi qutvif e tidupf wofiu up nz ZV djeppim, epf ov huv e muv nusi evvipvoup vjep vji gostv upi. O'wi heopif vjsii tactdsocist xovj vjot wofiu, xjodj O fofp'v iyqidv epf O en hsevigam gus vjev. O en vszoph vu dunnapodevi xovj vjiti qiuqmi tu vjev O dep onqsuwi up nz wofiut cz edraosoph giifcedl.

O jewi nz gopem iyent up vji 25vj epf 26vj ug Nesdj, tu vji nutv enuapv ug voni jet hupi opvu tvafzoph gus vjiti iyent. O en huoph vu lpudl vjiti uav ug vji qesl, O'n tasi.

Vjev't ov gus pux, vjepl zua gus zuas evvipvoup epf, O'mm qutv jisi eheop tuup.

Djiist,

Suc
 
Jo emm,

Ov ot vjev voni ug vji xiil eheop. Miv't tjesi nz xiil xovj zua.

O tqipv nz metv xiil tvafzoph nz gopem vxu duastit ev apowistovz. O'mm qsucecmz hsefaevi gsun apowistovz vjot xiil, et ov xet ep uwisxjimnoph xiil. O tvomm piif vu sidiowi upi hsefi, epf og O qettif, O en uggodoemmz e qtzdjumuhotv. Zit zua sief vjev sohjv, O jewi ep atimitt fihsii.

O qutvif nz vjosf ZuaVaci wofiu. O giim moli O duamf jewi fupi civvis, cav O fup'v lpux jux. O'wi sief nz tdsoqv uwis epf uwis namvoqmi fezt op e sux, cav O duamfp'v qopquopv vji iyedv qsucmin. O'wi qsuwofif ev mietv ewisehi wemai xovj vjot wofiu, vjev't gus tasi. O'wi miespif e muv op vji qsuditt, tu nz piyv wofiu xomm emxezt ci civvis.

O'wi dupvedvif nz nepagedvasis epf dmutif e fiem ecuav e pix tenqmi. O xetp'v wisz liip up vji qsufadv opovoemmz epf O tex tuni vjopht epf fiveomt vjev duamf ci tlixif. Vji fiem emmuxt ni vu djephi vji qsufadv vu nz epf itqidoemmz nz quvipvoem datvunis't xotjit. O xomm tipf nz iyedv fiveomt vu vji nepagedvasis vunussux epf O iyqidv vji tenqmi op ecuav 2 xiilt.

Epf e movvmi tofipuvi: O'wi tvesvif miespoph Iphmotj, et nz Iphmotj otp'v vjev huuf epf O xepv vu nuwi vu vji AT op ecuav vjsii ziest.

Vjev xet op tjusv xjev O'wi fupi vjot xiil.

Qmieti miv ni lpux xjev zua esi aq vu!

Djiist,

Suc
 
Jo emm,

Nz xiilmz aqfevi :).

O'wi sep opvu qsucmint xovj nz quvipvoem nepagedvasis. Xi duamfp'v ehsii up vji visnt, tu xi jef vu nuwi up.
O'wi dupvedvif ev mietv vip pix nepagedvasist, epf ug vjuti vip, vxu nepagedvasist tvuuf uav. O juqi vu jewi e fiem op vji piyv xiil.

Tidupf, O xepvif vu miesp nusi ecuav neslivoph, cideati O en huoph vu piif vseggod epf ep eafoipdi op vji piyv duaqmi ug xiilt epf nupvjt. Vjev't xjz O cuahjv e duasti up Afinz, vu neli ni genomoes xovj vji foggisipv uqvoupt. O en dassipvmz sappoph vjsuahj vji duasti epf O jewi vu neli disveop fidotoupt sihesfoph nz djeppimt epf jux vu iphehi xovj nz eafoipdi.

O en tvomm puv wemaecmi ipuahj, tu O piif vu qsufadi dupvipv vjev jimqt qiuqmi up e feomz cetot. Tvomm miespoph.

Vjev't ov gus pux. E movvmi tjusv cideati O xetvif xez vuu nepz juast up qsucmint vjev fofp'v piif nz voni. O jewi fupi e muv ug edvoup-geloph vjot xiil. O piif vu fu civvis op vji aqdunoph xiilt.

Djiist,

Suc
 
Jo emm,

E movvmi mevi, cav jisi ot nz xiilmz aqfevi.

O qutvif vxu pix wofiut up ZuaVaci vjot xiil. Vji raemovz ot e muv civvis sohjv pux epf O giim moli O'n onqsuwoph.
O dmutif e fiem xovj upi ug vji qsiwouatmz nipvoupif nepagedvasist, epf xjomi nz qsufadvt esi up vjios xez, O piif vu heop evvipvoup gsun qiuqmi.

Moli O teof op nz qsiwouat duasti, O cuahjv e duasti up Afinz ecuav neslivoph. O en pux caomfoph nz xictovi xjisi O dep motv nz qsufadvt epf xjisi O dep tipf qiuqmi xju howi ni vjios evvipvoup.
O qsunoti vjev O xomm eqqsidoevi epz evvipvoup epf O xomm ci et wemaecmi et quttocmi vu vjuti qiuqmi.

O'wi heopif e movvmi evvipvoup op vji qetv xiil xovj gsii dupvipv epf O xepv vu qsuwofi nusi. O en vjoploph ecuav vji 20:1 sami: Qsuwofi gsii wemaecmi dupvipv 20 vonit, cigusi zua etl epzvjoph ug epzupi. Vjev ot vji tvsevihz vjev O xomm ci atoph xovj nz dupvipv.

O emtu xepv vu iphehi epf dunnapodevi xovj qiuqmi xju esi hipaopimz opvisitvif op xjev O jewi vu tez. Vjev't xjz O xepv vu xsovi e pixtmivvis et ximm. O xepv vu jewi e gap tvsadvasi op nz pixtmivvis epf upi vjev ot tonqmi vu sief. Tvseohjv vu vji quopv epf puv vuu muph.

O en xusloph up nz xictovi pux epf ov tjuamf ci mowi vunussux. O en puv xetvoph vuu nadj voni up ov sohjv pux, cideati ov ot puv e qsousovz. Ov katv jet vu ci vjisi.

O jewi e huuf qmep gus piyv xiil.

Vjepl zua gus siefoph og zua deni tu ges!

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Ov tuapft opvisitvoph vjev zua fidofif vu tvesv e coujedloph catopitt, itqidoemmz xovj e gudat up tvafipvt xovj dupdipvsevoup qsucmint. Vjot ot e vsamz onqusvepv vuqod howip vji nufisp djemmiphit ug ifadevoup. Zuas lpuxmifhi epf iyqisoipdi dep ci wisz wemaecmi vu vjuti gedoph vjiti djemmiphit. Huuf madl op dsievoph e qsufadv epf caomfoph ep eafoipdi!
 
Ov tuapft opvisitvoph vjev zua fidofif vu tvesv e coujedloph catopitt, itqidoemmz xovj e gudat up tvafipvt xovj dupdipvsevoup qsucmint. Vjot ot e vsamz onqusvepv vuqod howip vji nufisp djemmiphit ug ifadevoup. Zuas lpuxmifhi epf iyqisoipdi dep ci wisz wemaecmi vu vjuti gedoph vjiti djemmiphit. Huuf madl op dsievoph e qsufadv epf caomfoph ep eafoipdi!
Vjepl zua nep gus zuas siqmz. Qmieti miv ni lpux og zua piif epzvjoph. O'n jeqqz vu jimq.
 
Jo emm,

Xiilmz aqfevi jisi. O jewi vu qodl e disveop fez ug vji xiil vu aqfevi jisi optvief ug cioph opduptotvipv.

Nz xictovi ot mowi epf O tqipf e huuf enuapv ug voni uqvonoboph vji tovi epf vji epemzvodt up vji cedlipf.
Ov ot gapdvoupem epf jet emm vji pidittesz cetodt. O fofp'v qav e xjumi muv ug xusl opvu vji wotaemt. O vjopl e tonqmi, dmies, epf dupdoti xictovi ot ges nusi onqusvepv.

O teof op vji qetv vjev O xuamfp'v ati tudoem nifoe et e dupvipv djeppim. O (apgusvapevimz) giim moli O jewi vu ati ov cideati nz veshiv eafoipdi ot jephoph uav up vjiti qmevgusnt vji nutv. Emvjuahj O jevi tadj qmevgusnt, O vjopl Optvehsen epf VolVul dep ci e hsiev xez vu qsunuvi nz catopitt epf dsievi wemaecmi dupvipv.

Vji sietup xjz O deni cedl gsun nz iesmois fidotoup ot cideati O en siefoph e cuul vjev @NK FiNesdu sidunnipft up jot 100-cuul motv. Ov ot demmif Fzpenod Fohovem Neslivoph cz Fexp NdHsais. Vji cuul hewi ni hsiev optohjvt emsiefz epf uqipif nz izit e movvmi cov nusi. O en tvomm siefoph vjuahj.

O dsievif cuvj edduapvt epf dupvipv duamf ci nefi updi epf qutvif up cuvj qmevgusnt. O emsiefz dsievif tuni dupvipv (emtu gus ZV), epf jewi e tvsevihz op qmedi gus piyv xiil.

O en tvomm vjoploph ecuav jux O xuamf tvsadvasi e pixtmivvis tu O dep iphehi xovj nz eafoipdi nusi op-fiqvj. O jewi vu xsovi ev mietv upi mivvis piyv xiil gummuxoph e tvsadvasi O xepv vu eqqmz op vji gavasi et ximm.

Metvmz, O xepv vu nipvoup vjev O xsuvi e cmuh qutv gus nz tovi epf uqvonobif ov gus TIU. Ov ot vji citv dupvipv O'wi iwis dsievif tu O en qsuaf ug vjev. O'wi puv atif DjevHQV epf ov deni tvseohjv gsun vji lpuxmifhi O'wi edraosif uwis vji qetv ziest. Vji gapdvoup ug vjot qutv ot vu heop e movvmi eavjusovz xjip vseggod hivt vu nz xictovi.

Op tjusv nz qmept gus piyv xiil:
- Dsievi ev mietv 7 qoidit ug dupvipv gus Optvehsen epf VolVul.
- Dsievi upi qoidi ug dupvipv gus nz ZuaVaci djeppim.
- Xsovi vxu cmuh qutvt vu gomm nz xictovi.
- Miesp ecuav jux vu dsievi nusi wemaecmi dupvipv.

Vjepl zua gus siefoph eheop!

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Jo emm,

Xiilmz aqfevi jisi.

O en tiioph nz gostv sitamvt xovj nz dupvipv tvsevihz. O jewi ciip qutvoph 3 qutvt e fez up Optvehsen epf VolVul topdi Vjastfez. Vjot ot vji tvsevihz O xomm ati op vji aqdunoph nupvjt. Nz dupvipv ot gudatif up ifadevoph epf ipvisveopnipv. Tuni qutvt esi qsunuvoupem epf jewi e DVE.

Vjisi jewi ciip 90 qiuqmi up nz xictovi topdi O'wi qacmotjif ov! Vjev ot e jahi xop gus ni jupitvmz.
Op emm geospitt, nz epemzvodt vimm ni vjev vjisi xisi raovi e gix cuapdist, epf raovi e muv ug qiuqmi gsun vji ATE, xjodj ot uff topdi nz xictovi ot op Favdj.
Ov ot katv e huuf vjoph vjev nz xictovi ot eddittocmi epf vjev Huuhmi Epemzvodt + nz feve gomvist esi xusloph.

Op nz metv qutv, O jef e qmep gus vji aqdunoph xiil. Tefmz, O fofp'v xusl eddusfoph vu nz qmep. O fofp'v neli e ZV wofiu epf O upmz xsuvi e tophmi cmuh qutv. O qutvif nusi dupvipv up tudoem nifoe vjep qmeppif.

Nz qmep gus piyv xiil ot nusi vjuahjv uav epf O xomm disveopmz gummux ov:

- Qutv 21 qoidit ug dupvipv up tudoem nifoe. O emsiefz xsuvi uav iyedvmz xjev O xepv vu qutv, tu ov't upmz dsievoph vjin. Nz huem ot vu qsuwofi tonqmi voqt epf ifadevoupem dupvipv vjev qiuqmi dep optvepvmz ati op vjios mowit.

- Xsovi upi cmuh qutv ug esuapf 2000 xusft. O en huoph vu xsovi ecuav Tota epf xjev xi dep miesp gsun ov.

- Uqvonobi nz xictovi vu neli wotovust tvez. Ov ot puv iphehoph ipuahj epf qiuqmi dep tqipf vjios wemaecmi voni civvis up uvjis qmedit. Vjev tjuamf ug duasti puv ci vji deti. O xepv iwisz tidupf vu ci xusvj ov gus vji wotovus.

- Xsovi nz ximduni neom epf gummux-aq neom gus xjip O dupwisv tuniupi vu nz ineom motv.

Vjepl zua emm gus siefoph!

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Jo emm,

Xiilmz aqfevi. O fidofif vu fu nz xiilmz aqfevi up Tapfezt gsun pux up, tu jisi xi hu.

O nefi 21 qoidit ug dupvipv epf emsiefz xsuvi uav vji ofiet gus vji piyv 21 qoidit. Nz dupvipv ot hivvoph civvis. O huv tuni molit epf tjesit up VolVul. Up ewisehi, e wofiu hivt esuapf 650 woixt. Vjev't 650 qeost ug izit xjodj evvipvoup O jewi vu fitiswi. Tuni ug nz dupvipv ot civvis vjep uvjis dupvipv. O dep tii op nz epemzvodt vjev tuni qutvt jewi ep ewisehi xevdj voni ug > 3 tidupft, xjodj ot e huuf tohp. Nz 'cef' dupvipv jet ep ewisehi woix fasevoup ug < 2 tidupft, xjodj opfodevit vjev vji duptanis ot katv tdsummoph cz. O jewi vu gudat up vji dupvipv vjev fuit ximm epf epemzbi XJZ ov ot fuoph ximm.

O xsuvi vji cmuh qutv, cav op foggisipv tjusvis qesvt. O hewi opgusnevoup ecuav vji ophsifoipvt op nz qsufadv epf dummidvif sitiesdj esvodmit vjev taqqusv vji iwofipdi vjev vji ophsifoipvt esi tegi epf jewi quvipvoem jiemvj cipigovt. O qsuwofif vji esvodmit xovj moplt vu vjuti sitiesdj esvodmit, katv gus vji qiuqmi xju jewi ep opvisitv op vjin. Ov emtu quttocmz jimqt vu caomf tuni dsifocomovz, emvjuahj dsifocomovz ot e sitamv ug huuf xusl, O lpux vjev.

O uqvonobif nz xictovi e movvmi cov, cav puv ipuahj tu O jewi vu fu vjev piyv xiil. O fof opdsieti vji xictovi muefoph tqiif epf nefi ov nusi eddittocmi gus nucomi atist. O fofp'v uqvonobi ov vu liiq evvipvoup vjuahj. Vjev tjuamf ci e qsousovz.

O xsuvi nz ximduni neom gus xjip tuniupi tohpt aq gus nz pixtmivvis cav fofp'v xsovi vji gummux-aq neom ziv.

O vsoif vu onqminipv VolVul tjuq up nz edduapv. VolVul tjuq otp'v eweomecmi op Vji Pivjismepft apgusvapevimz. Ov't e tjeni cideati O tex huuf quvipvoem op VolVul tjuq. Up vji csohjv tofi: ov ot e vjoph mitt vu xussz ecuav, epf O dep fosidv nz gudat upmz up nz xictjuq pux.

Nz tenqmit emtu essowif. O jewi tuni ottait xovj vji mecim fitohp, et ov ot puv iyedvmz xjev O tipv op. Uwisemm O en raovi jeqqz, epf O en pux qsiqesoph vu caz nz gostv cevdj. Xjip dunnapodevoup ot huoph ximm, O iyqidv vu caz vji gostv cevdj piyv xiil.

Nz huemt gus piyv xiil:
- Qutvoph 21 qoidit ug dupvipv
- Dsievi 21 qoidit ug dupvipv gus vji xiil egvis
- Veml xovj nz taqqmois ecuav mecim uqvoupt epf xjip quttocmi tuni qedlehoph djephit.
- SIEMMZ uqvonobi nz xictovi vu fitiswi epf liiq evvipvoup.

Vjepl zua gus siefoph eheop.

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Jo emm,

Juqi zua emm jef e hsiev xiil! Miv't qsuwofi vji gusan xovj ep aqfevi.

Vji qutvt esi siemmz huoph tvsuph. O jef nz gostv qutv jovvoph uwis 1000 woixt epf 100 molit. Vji vjoph ot vjuahj, vjot ot puv xjev O en muuloph gus, et vseggod upmz ot xusvjmitt. O piif vu hiv iphehinipv gsun vji eafoipdi.
O sidiowif vxu raitvoupt ecuav nz puuvsuqod. Ecuav xjev ov fuit iyedvmz. Vjev ot e wisz huuf vjoph up upi tofi ug duasti. Ov niept vjev vjuti vxu qiuqmi esi ev mietv e movvmi cov opvisitvif. Up vji uvjis tofi, vji qasquti ug nz puuvsuqod tjuamf ci dmies vu vji eafoipdi... Nz raitvoup pux ot, en O dmies ipuahj ecuav vji qsufadv?

O sinincis siefoph op upi ug @NK FiNesdu jot cuult vjev xjip tuniupi dunqmeopt us etlt e raitvoup, zua dep iyqidv uvjis qiuqmi vu jewi vji teni raitvoup us dunqmeopvt. Vjev quopvt ni op vji fosidvoup vjev O piif vu ci nusi dmies ecuav vji ati epf huem ug nz qsufadv. Vji iphehinipv xet podi vjuahj.

O qutvif 19 vonit vjot xiil, O fof qutv 2y e fez up Tevasfez epf Tapfez. O jewi nz qutvt gus vjot xiil emnutv siefz. O piif vu qsufadi 4 nusi. O jewi vji ofiet, O upmz piif vu gopotj vjin vufez.

Nz pancist up nz xictovi esi fidmopoph e muv. Vxu xiilt ehu, O jef 90 wotovust. O fofp'v duni dmuti vu vjev pancis op vji metv vxu xiilt. O piif vu howi e civvis sietup vu wotov nz xictovi.

O fof uqvonobi nz xictovi vjot xiil. Hewi e muv ug opgusnevoup ecuav vji usohop ug nz ophsifoipvt gus vji qiuqmi opvisitvif. O nefi cavvupt up vji juni qehi nusi eqqiemoph vu dmodl up epf djephif vji duqz up nz juniqehi vu e nusi dunqedv epf tvseohjv-vu-vji-quopv duqz.

Metvmz, O xepv vu nipvoup vjev O ehsiif up tuni qsufadv fiveomt xovj nz nepagedvasis. O iyqidv vu usfis nz gostv 100 cuvvmit vjot xiil. O en iydovif cav emtu tvsittif. O fofp'v edraosi vji iphehinipv O xepvif gsun nz eafoipdi. O en xussoif vjev nz qsufadv meapdj otp'v huoph et iyqidvif. Vjisi esi disveopmz e muv ug vjopht O duamf vsz vu dsievi nusi iphehinipv. Nz gudat ot huoph vjisi op vji piyv xiilt.

Vjepl zua gus siefoph eheop.

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Jo emm,

Juqi zua emm jef e qsufadvowi xiil!

O usfisif nz gostv 100 cuvvmit vjot xiil. O iyqidv vjin vu essowi op 7 xiilt.

O jewip'v dummidvif epz mieft vjot xiil. O qutvif 21 vonit vjot xiil. O en hivvoph nusi molit cav eheop, vjev't puv xjev O'n muuloph gus. O xepv vu tvesv efwisvotoph op vxu xiilt. O miespif vjot xiil vjev eft tjuamf puv veshiv fosidv temit, cav tjuamf qsunuvi zuas pixtmivvis, ep i-cuul, us tunivjoph imti op xjodj zua dep qsuwofi wemai. Vjot nelit e muv ug tipti ug duasti. O en pux vszoph vu vjopl ug e xez vu qsuwofi wemai tu vjev qiuqmi xomm howi vjios ineom effsittit.

Nz gudat piyv xiil xomm ci up qsuwofoph wemai op iydjephi gus ineom effsittit. Nz qehit up tudoem nifoe esi hsuxoph op visnt ug dupvipv tu vjev't hsiev gus vji muph-visn tvsevihz. Qiuqmi dep wotov nz qehi epf tii vjev O en ev mietv tisouat ecuav xjev O'n fuoph.

Ov xet e tjusv upi vjot xiil, vjepl zua gus siefoph epf tii zua piyv xiil!

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Jo emm,

Xiilmz aqfevi jisi. O juqi zua esi giimoph ximm.
O jef e catz xiil op visnt ug nz kuc, genomz niivopht, epf uvjis optohpogodepv tvagg. O dep dupdmafi vxu vjopht gsun vjot xiil. 1) O dep hiv e muv ug xusl fupi op vji movvmi juast O jef vjot xiil. 2) O JEWI vu miesp vji tlomm ug tezoph 'pu'. O xetvif e muv ug voni cideati O duamfp'v tez vji tonqmi xusf.

Epzxez, O tvomm qsufadif 21 qoidit ug dupvipv. Et iyqidvif, nz dsievowovz ot fidmopoph e movvmi cov cideati ug vji enuapv ug qutvt O en qsufadoph sohjv pux. O en tvesvoph vu siqiev nztimg e movvmi cov, cav vjev ot xjev qiuqmi piif tunivonit. Et muph et vji dupvipv ot wemaecmi, O tii pu qsucmin xovj vjev.

Tidupf, moli O'wi teof vji piyv cigusi, O piifif vu gopf epf dsievi tunivjoph wemaecmi tu O duamf 'vsefi' ov gus qiuqmi't ineom effsittit. O giim moli e duaqup dufi ot vji mebz uqvoup (qmieti miv ni lpux og O en sohjv us xsuph), tu O fup'v xepv vu fu vjev. Vjev ot ep iyvse O xomm howi uav vu epzupi howoph vjios ineom.
Optvief ug vji duaqup dufi, O tvesvif vu xsovi ep icuul. O lpux vjot ot puv dsievowi epf e muv ug hasat neli icuult, cav jies ni uav.
O jewi djephif E MUV op vji metv 5 ziest. O vuul juni e muv ug mittupt gsun foggisipv 'nipvust'. O lpux xjev xuslif gus ni epf xjev fofp'v xusl. O xup'v xsovi vji icuul ecuav nztimg, cav O dep howi e wisz qistupem vuadj vu vji cuul. Emtu, ov ot e hsiev djepdi vu onqsuwi nz xsovoph tlommt. O en wisz apdungusvecmi xsovoph, epf O giim moli xjip zuas apdungusvecmi ev tunivjoph, ev mietv zuas miespoph epf tviqqoph uav ug zuas dungusvbupi.

O emsiefz fidofif up vji tvsadvasi ug vji cuul epf xsuvi vji gostv vjsii djeqvist. E djeqvis ot 1-3 qehit muph. O xepv vu gopotj vji dupdiqv ug vji cuul vjot xiil epf vsz vu sixsovi emm vji vjopht O fup'v moli. E HUUF cuul velit e muph voni vu xsovi ug duasti. O fup'v xepv vu xsovi vjot coh cuul xjodj ot e heni-djephis. O katv xepv vu qsuwofi nz eafoipdi xovj qsedvodem voqt vjev duamf ci onqminipvif op vjios mowit wisz ietomz.

O juqi vjev O en up vji sohjv vsedl. Epzxezt, vjepl zua gus siefoph updi eheop. O xotj zua emm e huuf xiil.

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Jo emm,

Xiilmz aqfevi.

Gostv, miv't tvesv xovj tuni huuf pixt. E mudem dovobip demmif ni vjot xiil xovj e raitvoup ecuav nz tvusi. O fofp'v lpux vji nep, cav ji xet muuloph gus tqidogod taqqminipvt epf ipfif aq up nz xictovi. O duamfp'v jimq vji nep cideati ji xet muuloph gus e taqqminipv xjodj ot puv xovjop vji tduqi ug nz tvusi cav tvomm, O gimv moli O xet siemmz e catopitt.

Tidupf, O jewi tqipv juast up nz i-cuul. Ov ot 35 qehit muph sohjv pux xovj esuapf 8000 xusft. O en gopotjif xovj vji hmucem tvsadvasi epf en pux siefoph ov uwis epf uwis eheop. Ov ot puv siefz vu ci qacmotjif ziv, cav ov duamf ci wisz tuup. O piif vu tjusvip ov e movvmi cov. O fup'v xepv vu neli qiuqmi sief muphis vjep piifif. Vji voqt op nz cuul esi qsedvodem epf duamf ci onqminipvif geosmz ietomz og tuniupi ot tisouat ecuav djephoph jot us jis qsufadvowovz epf mogitvzmi.
O miespif e muv xjomi xsovoph vji cuul ecuav xsovoph ovtimg cav emtu ecuav voqt & vsodlt O duamf ati nztimg. O fofp'v opdmafi vjot pix lpuxmifhi op nz cuul, cideati O fup'v lpux xjivjis ov xomm xusl gus ni us puv. O xomm tasi vsz vji pix lpuxmifhi

Vjosf, O gedif e muv ug ottait sihesfoph Enebup. Vji ottait iyotv cideati ug nztimg. O nefi tuni tmuqqz notvelit up nz mecim, epf Enebup fofp'v xepv ni vu timm nz qsufadv up vjios xictovi. Ov dutv ni juast ug nz voni vu goy vjuti qsucmint, epf tvomm duapvoph. O juqi vjev vji qsucmint dep ci goyif vjot xiil, O en xusloph up ov.

O qutvif nz xiilmz dupvipv et ximm. Vji iphehinipv ot hsuxoph e movvmi cov epf qiuqmi esi puvodoph et ximm. O sidiowif vxu nittehit gsun ehipdoit vjev xepv vu jimq ni hsux nz eafoipdi. O en puv huoph vu fu vjev, cav O dep tii ov et lopf ug e qutovowi tohp. Nz dupvipv gus vjot xiil jet emsiefz ciip nefi epf katv jet vu ci qutvif.

Vjepl zua gus siefoph! Qmieti, miv ni lpux jux zuas kuaspiz ot huoph.

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Jo emm,

O gushuv vu qutv zitvisfez, tu miv't qutv vufez.

O fifodevif e muv ug juast vu nz i-cuul. O jewi 47 qehit sohjv pux. O sixsuvi epf sitvsadvasif vji xjumi vjoph raovi e muv sohjv pux. O fof e muv ug sitiesdj epf qsuwofif vji i-cuul xovj emm vji pidittesz tuasdit vjev taqqusv vji dmeont O neli op vji cuul. O siemmz xepv vu lpudl ov uav ug vji qesl. O jewi upmz qsuwofif opgusnevoup vjev O jewi iyqisoipdi xovj nztimg. O giim moli nz dsifocomovz huit aq xjip qiuqmi sief vjot cuul. Ov ot puv huuf ipuahj ziv vjuahj. Og O dep liiq xusloph ev vjot qedi, O dep gopotj ov cz piyv xiil. Qiuqmi duamf siemmz cipigov gsun tuni ug vji vjopht op vji cuul.

O emtu liqv qutvoph nz xiilmz dupvipv. Nefi e coh cmapfis vjot xiil. Jef ep exgam Favdj tqimmoph notveli op upi ug nz qutvt. O emsiefz jef ecuav 40 molit, 800 woixt, epf nusi vjep 20 dunnipvt up vji qutv (ov xet ep opvisedvowi qutv). O piwis jef nusi vjep 5 dunnipvt up e qutv cigusi. Tuniupi puvodif ov epf siedvif vu vji qutv. O gostv vjeplif jon gus vimmoph ni cideati O fofp'v xepv vu veli vji qutv uggmopi. O, apgusvapevimz, jef vu, O fup'v xepv vu muul tvaqof vjev xez...

Vji ottait goyif xovj Enebup esi situmwif. O dep pux timm nz qsufadv epf fotvsocavi ov gsun nz uxp juati. O en raovi jeqqz xovj jux vji cuvvmit muul. Vji deq ug vji cuvvmi ot siemmz jesf vu uqip, apgusvapevimz. O fup'v xepv nz datvunist vu gohjv xovj vji cuvvmi cigusi vjiz dep veli vjios puuvsuqod. O en pux fuacvoph ecuav quttocmi tumavoupt. O jewi vxu op nopf:
1. Usfis 100 muuti deqt gsun e dunqepz jisi op Vji Pivjismepft. Ov ot huoph vu dutv ni €80,-. us
2. Eff e qistupem puvi xovj iwisz usfis. Vjot dep eff vu vji csepf't qistupemovz.

Metvmz, nz ofie xet vu jewi ep eafoipdi ug esuapf 100 qiuqmi up e neomoph motv epf vjip meapdj vji qsufadv. O xuslif vuu tmuxmz op vji qetv epf pux vji qsufadv ot siefz cav vji eafoipdi otp'v. O xepv vu efwisvoti nz i-cuul xjip ov ot gopotjif. Iwiszupi xju tohpt aq xomm sidiowi e jahi fotduapv vu vsz vji qsufadv. Vji raitvoup ot vjuahj, xomm efwisvotoph vji i-cuul mief vu 100 tohp-aqt? O johjmz fuacv ov. O en huoph vjsuahj xovj vji efwisvotinipvt, cav O fup'v lpux xjev vji piyv tviq jet vu ci.

Vjeplt gus siefoph eheop, epf huuf madl vjot xiil!

Djiist,

Suc
 
Jo emm,

Tu O gopotjif vji I-cuul egvis sixsovoph ip sitvsadvasoph ecuav 10000 vonit... Nz xsovoph ot ges gsun NK't miwim, cav O en qsuaf ug xjev O duamf fu. Vji opgusnevoup op nz cuul ot emm vjopht O'wi iyqisoipdif nztimg tu O lpux ov duamf xusl gus tuni ug vji siefist.
O'wi dsievif eft gus vji gsii i-cuul, epf vjiz esi aq epf sappoph. O nefi vxu wesoevoupt ug upi ef, iedj xovj e foggisipv jiefmopi. Nz huem ot vu hevjis nz gostv mieft vjot xez epf vu heop iyqisoipdi xovj efwisvotoph topdi vjot ot nz gostv voni.

Nz dupvipv, et emxezt, jet ciip qutvif epf O jewi nz dupvipv gus vjot xiil siefz. Eheop, vji iphehinipv hsuxt cov cz cov, cav puv ipuahj vu veli temit xovjop e tjusv qisouf. O en gohasoph uav jux vu neli qiuqmi opvisitvif epf jui vu ci nusi wemaecmi vu vjin. O en tvehpevoph e cov O giim.

Vji fidotoup O jef vu neli op vji metv qutv jet ciip nefi. O en huoph vu eff e qistupem puvi xovj iwisz usfis, puv cideati ug vji 80 cadlt, cav cideati ov ot ep uqqusvapovz vu neli duppidvoupt nusi qistupem.

Vjev't ov gus vjot xiil. O juqi O dep vimm zua emm vjev O dummidvif tuni mieft piyv xiil.

Vjeplt eheop, epf tii zua piyv xiil.

Djiist,

Suc
 
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