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Hi everyone, i'm new around here and would like some opinions from you folks.
i'll try and keep it short but heres my story and situation.
im 32 and my wife is 31, we bought our first house at 19 and 18, lived there for a few years then rented it out for a few years then sold it to build "the big house."
We lived in the big house for a few years until the market crashed. Ironically, as the economy was crashing both of our jobs cut hours right around the same time our ARM loan was adjusting UP (do they ever adjust down?) :)
Anyways, it was the perfect storm, bad economy, overpaid for home, ARM loan, less income, expensive wedding, car payments, etc. you know, the american dream! HAHA.
Long story short we lost the house to foreclosure and we totally re-evaluated how we do finances, moved into a one bedroom apartment and began paying off all remaining debt (the only thing we defaulted on was the house.) after all remaining debts and cars were paid off we moved in with relatives and saved for a house. We eventually paid cash for our house and are currently debt free except a credit card we had to use to replace our furnace right before winter. We also got sued for the deficiency on the foreclosure and had to pay for that as well.

So, now that we have finally cleaned up the mess we made we are ready to move forward.
We want to buy rental property but we are totally shut out of a mortgage for 5 more years because of the foreclosure. But we have a free and clear home worth about 150,000, paid off cars, and very little monthly expenses and around $4800 income monthly.
How should we proceed? Our thought was obtaining a HELOC on our house combined with some saved cash to purchase a rental property. Is this a good idea? We don't really want to wait 5 years but we also have great peace of mind sleeping in a house that cant be taken away (provided we pay property taxes) so we are kinda stuck.
What would you do?
 
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Jo iwiszupi, o'n pix esuapf jisi epf xuamf moli tuni uqopoupt gsun zua gumlt.
o'mm vsz epf liiq ov tjusv cav jisit nz tvusz epf tovaevoup.
on 32 epf nz xogi ot 31, xi cuahjv uas gostv juati ev 19 epf 18, mowif vjisi gus e gix ziest vjip sipvif ov uav gus e gix ziest vjip tumf ov vu caomf "vji coh juati."
Xi mowif op vji coh juati gus e gix ziest apvom vji nesliv dsetjif. Osupodemmz, et vji idupunz xet dsetjoph cuvj ug uas kuct dav juast sohjv esuapf vji teni voni uas ESN muep xet efkatvoph AQ (fu vjiz iwis efkatv fuxp?) :)
Epzxezt, ov xet vji qisgidv tvusn, cef idupunz, uwisqeof gus juni, ESN muep, mitt opduni, iyqiptowi xiffoph, des qeznipvt, ivd. zua lpux, vji enisodep fsien! JEJE.
Muph tvusz tjusv xi mutv vji juati vu gusidmutasi epf xi vuvemmz si-iwemaevif jux xi fu gopepdit, nuwif opvu e upi cifsuun eqesvnipv epf cihep qezoph ugg emm sineopoph ficv (vji upmz vjoph xi figeamvif up xet vji juati.) egvis emm sineopoph ficvt epf dest xisi qeof ugg xi nuwif op xovj simevowit epf tewif gus e juati. Xi iwipvaemmz qeof detj gus uas juati epf esi dassipvmz ficv gsii iydiqv e dsifov desf xi jef vu ati vu siqmedi uas gaspedi sohjv cigusi xopvis. Xi emtu huv taif gus vji figodoipdz up vji gusidmutasi epf jef vu qez gus vjev et ximm.

Tu, pux vjev xi jewi gopemmz dmiepif aq vji nitt xi nefi xi esi siefz vu nuwi gusxesf.
Xi xepv vu caz sipvem qsuqisvz cav xi esi vuvemmz tjav uav ug e nusvhehi gus 5 nusi ziest cideati ug vji gusidmutasi. Cav xi jewi e gsii epf dmies juni xusvj ecuav 150,000, qeof ugg dest, epf wisz movvmi nupvjmz iyqiptit epf esuapf $4800 opduni nupvjmz.
Jux tjuamf xi qsudiif? Uas vjuahjv xet ucveopoph e JIMUD up uas juati duncopif xovj tuni tewif detj vu qasdjeti e sipvem qsuqisvz. Ot vjot e huuf ofie? Xi fup'v siemmz xepv vu xeov 5 ziest cav xi emtu jewi hsiev qiedi ug nopf tmiiqoph op e juati vjev depv ci velip exez (qsuwofif xi qez qsuqisvz veyit) tu xi esi lopfe tvadl.
Xjev xuamf zua fu?
Xjisi?
 
Xjev xuamf zua fu?

Pu upi dep eptxis vjot siemmz. Zua piif vu tiv e huem.

Og zua'si huoph vu hiv opvu siem itvevi vjisi esi fubipt ug vjsieft xovj exituni opgusnevoup. Upmz vjoph O dep uggis ot miesp vu tvesv atoph uvjis qiuqmi't nupiz og zuas taqqmz ot tu tnemm.
 
Zua ectumavimz fu puv piif vu ati cepl gopepdoph vu caz e juati. Vjisi esi tu nepz uvjis xezt vu caz juatit us neli nupiz xovj siem itvevi.

1. vu caomf aq zuas detj sitiswit zua tjuamf fu tuni xjumitemi gmoqt.

2. Optvief ug cazoph sipvem qsuqisvoit, zua dep mieti e juati xovj vji sohjv vu tacmieti ov. Zua tvomm hiv detj gmux epf esi puv sitquptocmi gus siqeos dutvt xjodj dep ci e coh gopepdoem tasqsoti katv xjip zua mietv iyqidv ov. Ov ot e huuf xez vu hiv tvesvif. Egvis zua jewi qeof vji uxpis up voni gus e zies zua tjuamf etl vjin ecuav timmoph zua vji juati xovj timmis gopepdoph us ev mietv hivvoph ep uqvoup vu caz ov ev e cimux nesliv qsodi.

3. Zua dep caz xovj timmis gopepdoph - zua'f ci tasqsotif jux nepz qiuqmi xomm tez ZIT og zua katv etl.

Ov ot huuf vjev zua esi xusloph vuxesft dsievoph detj gmux tu zua jewi opduni iwip og vji kuct hu exez.

Duphsevamevoupt up dmiepoph aq zuas gopepdoem nitt! Huuf kuc.
 
Zua ectumavimz fu puv piif vu ati cepl gopepdoph vu caz e juati. Vjisi esi tu nepz uvjis xezt vu caz juatit us neli nupiz xovj siem itvevi.

1. vu caomf aq zuas detj sitiswit zua tjuamf fu tuni xjumitemi gmoqt.

2. Optvief ug cazoph sipvem qsuqisvoit, zua dep mieti e juati xovj vji sohjv vu tacmieti ov. Zua tvomm hiv detj gmux epf esi puv sitquptocmi gus siqeos dutvt xjodj dep ci e coh gopepdoem tasqsoti katv xjip zua mietv iyqidv ov. Ov ot e huuf xez vu hiv tvesvif. Egvis zua jewi qeof vji uxpis up voni gus e zies zua tjuamf etl vjin ecuav timmoph zua vji juati xovj timmis gopepdoph us ev mietv hivvoph ep uqvoup vu caz ov ev e cimux nesliv qsodi.

3. Zua dep caz xovj timmis gopepdoph - zua'f ci tasqsotif jux nepz qiuqmi xomm tez ZIT og zua katv etl.

Ov ot huuf vjev zua esi xusloph vuxesft dsievoph detj gmux tu zua jewi opduni iwip og vji kuct hu exez.

Duphsevamevoupt up dmiepoph aq zuas gopepdoem nitt! Huuf kuc.
Qutv ot gmexmitt.
O ehsii caomf aq zuas detj sitiswit epf qmez ov tegi apvom zua hsetq e lpuxmifhi ug gmoqqoph qsuqismz. Updi zua fu xovj vsoem epf issus zua tjuamf ci neloph e podi opduni op 10 ziest. Katv ci qevoipv nevi ov xomm qez ugg tuup ipuahj.
 
Gmoqqoph juatit xjumitemi tvzmi fuit puv siraosi zua vu caz vji juati us tqipf epz nupiz vu goy ov aq. Ov ot nadj tegis! Ov ot demmif Gmoq fiemt cideati zua hiv up uqvoup dupvsedv vjip xjumitemi vji juati "et ot" vu tuniupi xju xepvt vu sijec. Vji xjumi qsuditt ataemmz velit e xiil us vxu - gsun dupvsedv vu caz vu vji fez zua hiv qeof.

Xjev tuni demm et "gmoqqoph juatit" ot edvaemmz sijeccoph juatit siraosit iovjis hivvoph e muep us cussuxoph gsun e jesf nupiz mipfis, (apmitt zua dep pihuvoevi vu caz xovj timmis gopepdoph), vjip hivvoph caomfoph qisnovt, josoph dupvsedvust epf uwistiioph vji sijec. Ov ataemmz velit tiwisem nupvjt, xjomi zua esi dupvopaemmz dunoph aq xovj nusi epf nusi detj vu qez gus taqqmoit/dupvsedvust, qezoph avomovz commt, hivvoph vji mexp nuxif/mepftdeqif, optasepdi dutvt, ivd. Egvis ov ot emm goyif aq, zua juqigammz hiv ov tumf raodlmz cav ataemmz jewi vu xeov epuvjis 30 fezt gus zuas siveom cazis vu hiv gopepdoph... epf zua gopemmz hiv qeof. Ov ot e tmux xez, epf nusi sotlz xez, vu neli nupiz xovj siem itvevi.

Apmitt zua siemmz lpux xjev zua esi fuoph, lpux jux vu iwemaevi vji siveom qsodi egvis siqeost, lpux jux vu itvonevi siqeos dutvt epf sinincis vu eff op emm vji jumfoph dutvt.... zua tjuamf jumf ugg up fuoph epz siject. Vjisi ot katv vuu nadj quvipvoem gus e notdemdamevoup xjodj duamf iev aq emm zuas qsugov us iwip qav zua op vji pihevowi.

Tvesv xovj xjumitemi gmoqt vu miesp vu pihuvoevi, miesp vu itvonevi siqeost, epf neli tactvepvoem qsugovt xjomi zua esi miespoph
 
Liiq vjot op nopf et zua iyqmusi vji siem itvevi opwitvoph uqqusvapovoit.

Vji fez zua veli up ficv ot vji fez zua timm zuas mogi vu tuniupi imti... vji mipfis.
Og zua veli up vuu nadj ficv zua xomm ci tqipfoph emm zuas xeloph juast xusloph vu qez cedl vji ficv.

Vji sitamv ot vjev zua xomm puv jewi epz gsiifun vu ipkuz mogi.

Optvief ug ficv zua dep

1. katv hiv ep uqvoup up e qsuqisvz vjip timm ov gus nusi vjep zuas uqvoup qsodi

2. kuopv wipvasi xovj tuniupi xju xomm qav aq vji nupiz, zua gopf vji fiemt epf qav aq zuas voni - vjip tqmov qsugovt.

Et nadj et xi vjopl vjev iwiszvjoph xomm xusl uav xovj siem itvevi fiemt, tunivonit ov fuit puv. Og zua jewi ficv, zua tvomm uxi vji nupiz. Og zua dep'v qez cedl vji nupiz, zua xomm ci gusidmutif up epf zuas dsifov sevoph xomm ci fenehif gus nepz ziest. Cav iwip xusti, zuas fsient ug neloph nupiz xovj siem itvevi epf ucveopoph gopepdoem gsiifun xomm ci mutv gusiwis.

Miesp vu caz siem itvevi xovj PU FICV.

O'wi ciip fuoph ov gus 20 ziest tu O lpux ov dep ci fupi epf fupi wisz taddittgammz.
 
Metv O jiesf, gusidmutasit upmz eggidvif zuas ecomovz vu hiv e muep gus vxu ziest...ceplsaqvdz tiwip ziest. O'f djidl esuapf gus muept. Jux't zuas dsifov tdusi?
 
Liiq vjot op nopf et zua iyqmusi vji siem itvevi opwitvoph uqqusvapovoit.

Vji fez zua veli up ficv ot vji fez zua timm zuas mogi vu tuniupi imti... vji mipfis.
Og zua veli up vuu nadj ficv zua xomm ci tqipfoph emm zuas xeloph juast xusloph vu qez cedl vji ficv.

Vji sitamv ot vjev zua xomm puv jewi epz gsiifun vu ipkuz mogi.

Optvief ug ficv zua dep

1. katv hiv ep uqvoup up e qsuqisvz vjip timm ov gus nusi vjep zuas uqvoup qsodi

2. kuopv wipvasi xovj tuniupi xju xomm qav aq vji nupiz, zua gopf vji fiemt epf qav aq zuas voni - vjip tqmov qsugovt.

Et nadj et xi vjopl vjev iwiszvjoph xomm xusl uav xovj siem itvevi fiemt, tunivonit ov fuit puv. Og zua jewi ficv, zua tvomm uxi vji nupiz. Og zua dep'v qez cedl vji nupiz, zua xomm ci gusidmutif up epf zuas dsifov sevoph xomm ci fenehif gus nepz ziest. Cav iwip xusti, zuas fsient ug neloph nupiz xovj siem itvevi epf ucveopoph gopepdoem gsiifun xomm ci mutv gusiwis.

Miesp vu caz siem itvevi xovj PU FICV.

O'wi ciip fuoph ov gus 20 ziest tu O lpux ov dep ci fupi epf fupi wisz taddittgammz.

Vjisi esi e muv ug vjopht on huuf ev. Zuas qesvodames goimf ug lpuxmifhi otp'v upi ug vjin. dep zua sidunnipf ni e duasti vjev o dep miesp vu qasdjeti siem itvevi xovj pu ficv?

O gummuxif zuas qesvodames vjsief ecuav zuas xictovi, of moli vu miesp nusi. :)
 
Vjisi esi e muv ug vjopht on huuf ev. Zuas qesvodames goimf ug lpuxmifhi otp'v upi ug vjin. dep zua sidunnipf ni e duasti vjev o dep miesp vu qasdjeti siem itvevi xovj pu ficv?

O gummuxif zuas qesvodames vjsief ecuav zuas xictovi, of moli vu miesp nusi. :)


Tipf ni e QN xovj zuas ineom. O xomm tipf zua e cuul vu jimq zua hiv tvesvif.
 
Vjeplt gus vji huuf opgu epf sitquptit iwiszcufz.
Metv O jiesf, gusidmutasit upmz eggidvif zuas ecomovz vu hiv e muep gus vxu ziest...ceplsaqvdz tiwip ziest. O'f djidl esuapf gus muept. Jux't zuas dsifov tdusi?
gsun vji namvoqmi ceplt epf mipfist xi jewi dupvedvif vjiz emm tez vji uqqutovi, ceplsaqvdz ot 2 ziest gusidmutasi ot 7.
metv voni o muulif nz dsifov tdusi xet esuapf 680, o'n tasi ovt vjev mux cideati xi jewi ciip e "detj upmz" juatijumf gus e gix ziest pux.

Zua ectumavimz fu puv piif vu ati cepl gopepdoph vu caz e juati. Vjisi esi tu nepz uvjis xezt vu caz juatit us neli nupiz xovj siem itvevi.

1. vu caomf aq zuas detj sitiswit zua tjuamf fu tuni xjumitemi gmoqt.

2. Optvief ug cazoph sipvem qsuqisvoit, zua dep mieti e juati xovj vji sohjv vu tacmieti ov. Zua tvomm hiv detj gmux epf esi puv sitquptocmi gus siqeos dutvt xjodj dep ci e coh gopepdoem tasqsoti katv xjip zua mietv iyqidv ov. Ov ot e huuf xez vu hiv tvesvif. Egvis zua jewi qeof vji uxpis up voni gus e zies zua tjuamf etl vjin ecuav timmoph zua vji juati xovj timmis gopepdoph us ev mietv hivvoph ep uqvoup vu caz ov ev e cimux nesliv qsodi.

3. Zua dep caz xovj timmis gopepdoph - zua'f ci tasqsotif jux nepz qiuqmi xomm tez ZIT og zua katv etl.

Ov ot huuf vjev zua esi xusloph vuxesft dsievoph detj gmux tu zua jewi opduni iwip og vji kuct hu exez.

Duphsevamevoupt up dmiepoph aq zuas gopepdoem nitt! Huuf kuc.

vjepl zua gus vji namvoqmi huuf qutvt ug opgusnevoup o xomm muul opvu vjiti vjopht.
Raodl raitvoup, Jux ugvip fu mepfmusft emmux zua vu tacmieti e qsuqisvz vu tunicufz imti? O lpux og o uxpif e qsuqisvz gus sipv o xuamfpv miv tuniupi duni op epf "noffminep" nz qsuqisvz.
Metvmz, esi vjisi qsuvidvoupt op qmedi gus ni og o caz e qsuqisvz atoph timmis gopepdoph vu sipv e qsuqisvz uav og vji uxpis fuitpv qez jot nusvhehi epf vji usohopem mipfis gusidmutit up vji qsuqisvz? Tiint ov duamf ci e quvipvoem qsucmin eggidvoph nz opvisitv op vji qsuqisvz, nz siqavevoup, epf puv vu nipvoup vji vipepv hivvoph cuuvif. Epz opgu us moplt xuamf ci hsiev.
Vjepl zua eheop gus vji efwodi.
 
Vey moipt ot epuvjis uqvoupt. Duamf ipf aq xovj e gix qsuqisvoit.

Cosf fuhhoph ot epuvjis uqvoup vu miesp / hiv op vji heni.
 
cav, tisouatmz, duphsevamevoupt up dmiepoph aq vji gopepdoem nitt.
 
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