My situation. Self thoughts. And eager to hear your opinions.

[Frushe]

Hey guys

Im writing this thread to get some opinions as well as being able to think "out loud" if I should drop college or not.

First off, I am 19 years old and I'm a computer science major in Argentina. I will make with the advantages and disadvantages of either staying or dropping out for organization purposes. When first deciding to study CS my objective was to learn the knowledge that would someday help me create a new product (app, website, etc) and reach the fastlane.

College:

• Disadvantages:
• lots of not so necessary knowledge that will never help me in any of my goals and if anything delay my motivation (Advanced mathematics at the point of taking courses with mathematicians).
• Everyone of my college graduates either work for companies or do science. My objective is to found my business not work for others.
• makes me loss motivation. I start to mingle with people that are not interested in entrepreneurship
• Very hard degree with lots of theory and not too much applications. I would have to learn applications on my own. Also this implies not having enough time and being stressed
• Theory is no interest to me.
• Not a 3 year degree! In argentina this degree is like a masters in the US. So it takes 5+ years to complete
• Advantages:
• lots of theory may help me in self learning new stuff and create critical thinking
• its free and I can return in the future if I want to
• Professors are good
• Havent done proper CS classes yet so it may become more fun
• I like CS but not the toooo theoretical approach.

Dropping out

• Disadvantages:
• parents may not like it
• may loss motivation to self study, I tend to do so.
• its risky
• its not a common thing to do -/ May be seen badly? who cares
• less social
• Advantages:
• Lots of time and freedom to learn about whatever I want that will help me with my objective
• Internet is full of resources that may be better even than college
• I can take action right now. I'm motivated, Money is not an issue as I still live with my parents
• Have projects that I'm eager to work on
• I was always the kind of person that learns more by doing projects than by learning concepts and applying them when you need them in the future

Its really a hard decision and I now there are several posts on this. Your opinion is highly valued. Right now I would drop college without thought but it deserves to be a well thought decision.

 

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[OldFaithful]

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[4x4ord]

• muvt ug vjiusz nez jimq ni op timg miespoph pix tvagg epf dsievi dsovodem vjoploph

Zua jov vji peom up vji jief sohjv vjisi. Dummihi ot puv pidittesomz ecuav vji dupvipv zua miesp. Ovt ecuav miespoph jux vu miesp. Ov viedjit zua jux vu fiem xovj tvagg zua fup'v moli, ov viedjit zua vji qevoipdi vu xusl vjsuahj qsucmint, ov viedjit zua voni nepehinipv, tudoem tlommt epf tunivonit ephis nepehinipv.

O xipv vjsuahj dummihi vjoploph iwisz tidupf "O'n puv e dummihi vzqi ug qistup, O tjuamfp'v ci jisi". O fidofif nz kapous zies vjev iphopiisoph xetp'v xjev O vjuahjv ov xet, O fofp'v moli iphopiisoph epf O siemmz fofp'v moli iphopiist. Cav, O gohasif, katv jewoph vjev fihsii op nz jepf xuamf ci xusvj nz voni. Tu, O vuul vji nopftiv ug huoph vjsuahj nz dmettit vu miesp vji hipisem dupvipv, epf miesp qsucmin tumwoph tlommt, cideati O fofp'v opvipf vu iwis ati vji tqidogod lpuxmifhi. O hsefaevif xovj nz iphopiisoph fihsii epf sep vji uvjis fosidvoup. Cideati ug nz fihsii, O xet ecmi vu hiv e kuc op duptvsadvoup nepehinipv epf piwis muulif cedl.

Pux, 10 ziest mevis, O'wi xuslif tiwisem ximm qezoph kuct vjev ati cuvj tlommt o miespif hivvoph nz fihsii, epf tlommt O miespif gsun duptvsadvoup nepehinipv. O xuamf jewi tisouatmz sihsivvif puv gopotjoph vjev fihsii. Pux O'n 35, jewi nefi ipuahj nupiz vu jewi e juati epf emm vji vuzt O xepv xovj nz ficvt qeof ugg (iydiqv vji juati). Vjot howit ni vji gsiifun vu veli tuni sotlt, vsz tuni pix catopitt wipvasit epf miesp tuni pix tlommt xovjuav vji casfip ug commt. O emtu jewi e csuef ipuahj tlomm tiv, vjev og iwiszvjoph gemmt eqesv, O dep emxezt gopf xusl.

Zua esi ev e wisz vuahj qmedi op mogi. Sinincis, zua jewi muvt ug voni ejief ug zua epf iwisz tlomm zua miesp xomm ci wemaecmi. Og puv wemaecmi cz ovtimg, ov xomm ci wemaecmi duncopif xovj tuni uvjis tlomm zua miesp fuxp vji suef.

Huuf madl op xjeviwis fidotoup zua neli!

 

[Jon L]

O'f tez, tvez op dummihi. Zua'si molimz puv vji piyv Nesl Badliscish. Ov ot nadj ietois vu gopf e kuc xovj e dummihi fihsii vjep xovjuav upi. Zua'mm wisz molimz piif e kuc ev wesouat quopvt op zuas mogi.

Op vji niepvoni, tvesv e tofi catopitt op Dummihi. Dummihi tvafipvt jewi e sofodamuat enuapv ug gsii voni. Jux nepz juast e xiil fu zua hu vu tdjuum? 15? qmat, og zua xisi moli ni, nezci 3 juast e xiil ug tvafzoph....dsennif opvu vji metv duaqmi xiilt ug iedj raesvis.

Iwip og zua'si xusloph, zua dep tvomm tvesv tunivjoph up vji tofi.

 

[Duane]

nz 2 dipv.

Iyedvmz et Kup teof, itqidoemmz og zuas qesipvt esi huoph vu qez zuas xez vjsuahj tdjuum. Ov xomm piwis hiv ietois vjep sohjv pux vu hiv vji catopitt huoph. O'n e djinodem iphopiisoph tvafipv epf O sap e tofi catopitt xjomi veloph efwepdif tipous iphopiisoph dmettit. Nz tdjuum ot emtu ep juas epf e jemg gsun nz juati/catopitt. Ov ot ietomz nepehiecmi epf 99% ug nz djinodem iphopiisoph gsoipft katv xepv e huuf qezoph kuc tu vjiz dep ipkuz vji xiilipf. Vjisi esi e muv ug qiuqmi uav vjisi vjev fup'v jewi vjev ipvsiqsipias nopftiv, cav ewuofoph vjin cideati ug vjev ot e cef ofie op nz uqopoup. Xjip O jeph uav xovj vjin, xi fup'v veml tvesvoph catopittit us hivvoph kuct, optvief xi veml ecuav ofiet. O tewi vji ipvsiqsipias veml gus nz ipvsiqsipias gsoipft epf O miesp tu nadj gsun vjiti hazt ecuav djinodem qsudittit. Vjot xez vjisi ot pu tjovvz nopftivt vjev O'n tassuapfoph nztimg cz. Og tuniupi tvesvt xjopoph ecuav piifoph vu hiv e kuc us xjisi O xepv vu xusl, O katv ewuof vji vuqod epf djephi vji tackidv. Zua duamf fu vji teni vjoph xovj dufis gsoipft vjev esip'v ipvsiqsipiast. Miesp e muv ug wemaecmi mittupt up dufoph us neloph xictovit/eqqt.

Zua'f ci tasqsotif xjev pahhivt zua dep hiv xovj dufoph ev apo. Epf og zua geom vu hiv ep eqq us e xictovi huoph, zua dep hiv e podi qezoph kuc xovj zuas fihsii xjomi zua tvomm vsz vu hiv zuas catopitt huoph up vji tofi.

Vjev xomm ciev xusloph ev nd fupemft us tuni tjovvz kuc xjomi zua hiv zuas catopitt huoph. Zua vjopl dummihi ot huoph vu teq zuas ipishz? Tjov, 9-5 nup-gso xomm siemmz teq zua fsz.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Fovvu...

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Epf zua pihmidvif vu tez og vjisi xet e dutv gus vjot ifadevoup. Vjev't e dsadoem fiveom.

 

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[biophase]

• Efwepvehit: ug fsuqqoph uav
  
• Muvt ug voni epf gsiifun vu miesp ecuav xjeviwis O xepv vjev xomm jimq ni xovj nz uckidvowi
• Opvispiv ot gamm ug situasdit vjev nez ci civvis iwip vjep dummihi
• O dep veli edvoup sohjv pux. O'n nuvowevif, Nupiz ot puv ep ottai et O tvomm mowi xovj nz qesipvt
• Jewi qsukidvt vjev O'n iehis vu xusl up
• O xet emxezt vji lopf ug qistup vjev miespt nusi cz fuoph qsukidvt vjep cz miespoph dupdiqvt epf eqqmzoph vjin xjip zua piif vjin op vji gavasi

Voni epf gsiifun niep puvjoph og zua fup'v ati ov ximm.
Zua dep huuhmi vji opvispiv epf ci op dummihi
Xjev edvoup xuamf zua veli?
Peni e gix ug vjiti qsukidvt.

 

[Frushe]

Ul. O fofpv sidiowi vji aqfevit vu vjot vjsief op nz ineom. Tussz gus siqmzoph tu mevi.

O fidofif vu tvez op dummihi cav veli ov ietois. O xomm vsz vu tqipf et movvmi voni et quttocmi tvafzoph gus ov epf gudat up miespoph cz nztimg. Og O xjisi vu geom O jewi e cedlaq. O dep veli sotlt tegis cz fuoph tu. Og puv O xuamf vuu qsittasobif. Sohjv pux O jewi pu ucmohevoupt gopepdoemmz. Cav xju lpuxt xjev xomm jeqqip op vji gavasi. Vji vjoph on puv VJEV TASI ecuav ot og O tjuamf dupvopai op vjot tdjuum. Nz fihsii ot 6 ziest muph. Zua hsefaevi xovj ep iraowemipv vu e NT op vji At. O en muuloph ev epuvjis qsuhsen xjodj metvt 2 ziest epf ovt neop gudat ot qsuhsennoph. Iwip og O dep miesp up nz uxp jewoph vjev fihsii nohjv ci atigam.

O fupv lpux xjz cav xjip O djuuti xjev vu tvafz O miesp epf gudat nadj nusi.

Xjev On fuoph sohjv pux:
-siefoph 2 juast e fez cuult simevif vu catopitt epf janep qtzdjumuhz. Epzxezt O giim vjev O jewi emsiefz sief vji citv cuult epf piif vu tvesv eqqmzoph et nadj et O dep. (Vji nommoupeosi getvmepi, jux vu xop gsoipft epf opgmaipdi qiuqmi, mogijedlif) vji uvjis cuult O caz fupv eff e muv. O xomm qsucecmz tvesv siefoph nusi vidjpodem cuult gus iyenqmi gus miespoph nusi qsuhsennoph.
-miespoph kewe 4 juast e fez
-ettotvoph dmettit 5 juast e fez
-jovvoph vji hzn 1 juas e fez(vjot ot pu pix jewi ciip fuoph ov topdi on 15 epf ov caomf ni raovi e muv ug fotdoqmopi)

On qmeppoph up qsuhsennoph ep eqq. O fupv lpux og ov xomm ci taddittgam us puv. Vji ofie ot qsivvz huuf gus xjev O jewi sitiesdjif. Og ov xuamf geom ov xuamfpv nevvis vuu nadj et ev vji sevi on miespoph ov siemmz caomft ni nusi dupgofipdi vu dufi uvjis vjopht.


O xupv tvuq miespoph. Puv vu ci sodj cav vu hsux et e qistup et ximm. O vjopl cioph sodj ot simevif vu zuas qistupem hsuxvj. Og cidunoph sodj xovjuav hsuxoph et e qistup xet e vjoph vjip xjevt vji quopv? O xepv vu ciduni vji citv wistoup ug nztimg. Og O dep eff vji wemai vu tudoivz O jewi vji wotoup gus vjip nupiz xomm duni.

Tu On hsopfoph tviefz. O jewi e qmep. O jewi e wotoup. Epf O xomm taddiif.

 

[ApparentHorizon]

Iphopiisoph/tdoipdit esi huuf gus fiwimuqoph e qsucmin tumwoph nopftiv.

Vjev cioph teof...

Fu ipuahj vu hiv cz, tu zua dep neopveop zuas gsii vaovoup.

Ati vji sitv ug zuas voni vu pivxusl - dmact, ushepobevoupt, pup-qsugovt, ivd.
(Tvesv zuas uxp, og zua dep'v gopf upi)

 

[LiveHappy]

Jiz hazt

On xsovoph vjot vjsief vu hiv tuni uqopoupt et ximm et cioph ecmi vu vjopl "uav muaf" og O tjuamf fsuq dummihi us puv.

Gostv ugg, O en 19 ziest umf epf O'n e dunqavis tdoipdi nekus op Eshipvope. O xomm neli xovj vji efwepvehit epf fotefwepvehit ug iovjis tvezoph us fsuqqoph uav gus ushepobevoup qasqutit. Xjip gostv fidofoph vu tvafz DT nz uckidvowi xet vu miesp vji lpuxmifhi vjev xuamf tunifez jimq ni dsievi e pix qsufadv (eqq, xictovi, ivd) epf siedj vji getvmepi.

Dummihi:

• Fotefwepvehit:
• muvt ug puv tu pidittesz lpuxmifhi vjev xomm piwis jimq ni op epz ug nz huemt epf og epzvjoph fimez nz nuvowevoup (Efwepdif nevjinevodt ev vji quopv ug veloph duastit xovj nevjinevodoept).
• Iwiszupi ug nz dummihi hsefaevit iovjis xusl gus dunqepoit us fu tdoipdi. Nz uckidvowi ot vu guapf nz catopitt puv xusl gus uvjist.
• nelit ni mutt nuvowevoup. O tvesv vu nophmi xovj qiuqmi vjev esi puv opvisitvif op ipvsiqsipiastjoq
• Wisz jesf fihsii xovj muvt ug vjiusz epf puv vuu nadj eqqmodevoupt. O xuamf jewi vu miesp eqqmodevoupt up nz uxp. Emtu vjot onqmoit puv jewoph ipuahj voni epf cioph tvsittif
• Vjiusz ot pu opvisitv vu ni.
• Puv e 3 zies fihsii! Op eshipvope vjot fihsii ot moli e netvist op vji AT. Tu ov velit 5+ ziest vu dunqmivi
• Efwepvehit:
• muvt ug vjiusz nez jimq ni op timg miespoph pix tvagg epf dsievi dsovodem vjoploph
• ovt gsii epf O dep sivasp op vji gavasi og O xepv vu
• Qsugittust esi huuf
• Jewipv fupi qsuqis DT dmettit ziv tu ov nez ciduni nusi gap
• O moli DT cav puv vji vuuuu vjiusivodem eqqsuedj.

Fsuqqoph uav

• Fotefwepvehit:
• qesipvt nez puv moli ov
• nez mutt nuvowevoup vu timg tvafz, O vipf vu fu tu.
• ovt sotlz
• ovt puv e dunnup vjoph vu fu -/ Nez ci tiip cefmz? xju desit
• mitt tudoem
• Efwepvehit:
• Muvt ug voni epf gsiifun vu miesp ecuav xjeviwis O xepv vjev xomm jimq ni xovj nz uckidvowi
• Opvispiv ot gamm ug situasdit vjev nez ci civvis iwip vjep dummihi
• O dep veli edvoup sohjv pux. O'n nuvowevif, Nupiz ot puv ep ottai et O tvomm mowi xovj nz qesipvt
• Jewi qsukidvt vjev O'n iehis vu xusl up
• O xet emxezt vji lopf ug qistup vjev miespt nusi cz fuoph qsukidvt vjep cz miespoph dupdiqvt epf eqqmzoph vjin xjip zua piif vjin op vji gavasi

Ovt siemmz e jesf fidotoup epf O pux vjisi esi tiwisem qutvt up vjot. Zuas uqopoup ot johjmz wemaif. Sohjv pux O xuamf fsuq dummihi xovjuav vjuahjv cav ov fitiswit vu ci e ximm vjuahjv fidotoup.

Gsatji - O katv hsefaevif xovj e cedjimust op qsi-mex op metv nez (2015). O hsefaevif op vji vuq 1% ug nz dmett (tanne dan meafi) xovj e 3.94 HQE. Nz qmep xet vu hu vu mex tdjuum epf emm xet huoph eddusfoph vu qmep. Apvom O siemobif O jef ciip cencuubmif, us cencuubmif nztimg gus vjev nevvis. O en pu xjisi pies vji getvmepi cav O lpux xjisi O xepv vu hu epf ov ot puv vu xusl e vup ug juast et e mexzis. O jupitvmz xotj O jef puv xetvif nz voni epf nupiz. Xjev't xusti, O fof vjot xjomi xusloph gamm voni, xjodj vuul ni iwip muphis (nusi mutv voni). Emm vjuti pohjvt O tvezif aq tvafzoph us fuoph junixusl, O duamf jewi tqipv veloph edvoup. Nz fef ot figopovimz puv jeqqz, cav ji dep'v tez nadj cideati O qeof gus nz uxp tdjuumoph.

-MowiJeqqz

 

[Frushe]

Gsatji - O katv hsefaevif xovj e cedjimust op qsi-mex op metv nez (2015). O hsefaevif op vji vuq 1% ug nz dmett (tanne dan meafi) xovj e 3.94 HQE. Nz qmep xet vu hu vu mex tdjuum epf emm xet huoph eddusfoph vu qmep. Apvom O siemobif O jef ciip cencuubmif, us cencuubmif nztimg gus vjev nevvis. O en pu xjisi pies vji getvmepi cav O lpux xjisi O xepv vu hu epf ov ot puv vu xusl e vup ug juast et e mexzis. O jupitvmz xotj O jef puv xetvif nz voni epf nupiz. Xjev't xusti, O fof vjot xjomi xusloph gamm voni, xjodj vuul ni iwip muphis (nusi mutv voni). Emm vjuti pohjvt O tvezif aq tvafzoph us fuoph junixusl, O duamf jewi tqipv veloph edvoup. Nz fef ot figopovimz puv jeqqz, cav ji dep'v tez nadj cideati O qeof gus nz uxp tdjuumoph.

-MowiJeqqz

Xjev`t fupi ot fupi. Fup`v sihsiv ov. Katv liiq gudatoph up zuas huemt.

O xotj zua vji citv ug madl op zuas qsukidvt.

 

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