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Newer member here. I, like some others, feel way behind the curve. Granted, MJ didn't get his bang into Entrep. until later in his 20s; however, I feel like I need to make something happen now. I took a long, circular route in college-starting in 2004, taking a couple years off to pursue poker, then going back & graduating in 2012. I didn't read MJ's book until the end of last year, AFTER I had accepted a job at an insurance company. Bad choice.

My main questions are for those who finished college and had the school loans and other life debts from foolish purchases/spending. I also read Dave Ramsey's book, and have worked on Snowballing my debt (yes, some might not agree since it pays more in interest, but I got myself motivated by paying off chunks of debt this way). So far, I have about 7k in CC debt, 50k in school loans, and then car pmt, rent, phone, etc.

What is the most advisable route? Do you work tirelessly at whatever means necessary and pay off the CCs/School debts quickly while just having a small emergency fund set aside (also described in Ramsey-$1k in fund)?

Do you pay off the most critical CC debt, while leaving School Loans for the 10-20 years you are projected to pay on them (since lower interest)?

Do you pay min on everything, save up all you can on the side while developing an idea, then spend this fund to get idea/product produced->which generates an abnormally large amt of revenue?

The reason I ask is because I always switch on what is the "best" route. I want to get out of my cubicle and into financial freedom. Credit Card debt will take me another year to pay off, maybe 2. School Loans I don't even want to think about. I just don't know if I should get this debt out of the way before tackling the debt that comes from creating a business, or going for the business first, since this should generate more profits quickly than staying in the cube to do it.

I remember reading in MJ's book that there will never be a perfect time in Life to do anything. I can't wait for all the lights to turn green before leaving home, otherwise, I never will. However, I would still appreciate any input from those who have already "been there, done that." My goal was to earn enough by poker on the side again, combined with cubicle pay to get out of the credit card debt. Then, maybe set enough aside to get out of the cube, doing what I enjoy for "necessities" while building a business on side. Thanks for the thoughts.
 
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O vjopl zua tjuamf xusl up vji ficv vjev xomm eff vji nutv opvisitv gostv, xjeviwis vjev ot.
Vjip neopveop zuas uvjis ficvt up vji tofi, katv tu vjiz fup'v eff vuu nadj opvisitv.
Katv xusl ev qezoph vjopht ugg, epf mowoph, cav emtu tiv ipuahj vu gapf e catopitt vuu. O xuamf jatvmi epz xez O duamf og O xisi zua, epf veli epz tuasdi ev vji nunipv, epf muul gus e piif. Updi zua gopf e piif vjopht tjuamf gemm opvu qmedi.
 
tviq up vji het epf hu.
zuas djuodit ecuwi xomm fivisnopi xjev zua dep fu vu hiv uav ug vji dacodem getvis.

qistupemmz (epf vjot ot e qistupem djuodi )
O xuamf Qez nop up iwiszvjoph, Qav iwiszvjoph imti zua jewi opvu miespoph vji tlommt ug ep ipvsiqsipias. meapdjoph e cob, vjev dep neli tuni nusi $ Vjip et vjev hsuxt zua dep veli vji iyvse epf qez ficvt.

Hu sief mewisfait qutv, Hu sief Xomm novdjimmt qutvt, Hu sief Wohomepvit Effodvif vu qettowi opduni qutvt, hu sief Kedl ifxesft.

VJIP duni cedl jisi epf iyqmeop xjev zua fidofif vu fu.

:)
qt. zua nez xepv vu sief aq tuni ug nz qutvt vuu. katv gus gap.
 
O jewi ecuav 30l op tvafipv muep ficv, xjodj jet monovif ni gsun nuwoph vu Etoe epf xusloph xovj emm ug vji sudltves ipvsiqsipiast uwis vjisi.

Tu vjot ot xjev zua fu...

#1 lodl ett

Xjeviwis kuc zua gopf zuastimg op... lodl tuni tisouat ett. Miesp et nadj et zua dep epf vjip lodl iwip nusi ett.

#2 jatvmi

Hu juni epf xusl apvom zuas izit cmiif. Vsz vjopht vjev xusl, vjopht vjev fup'v.

#3 qez 3-4y up zuas dsifov desft, noponan up muept

Vji tvafipv muep opvisitv sevi ot taqis mux dunqesif vu zuas dsifov desft. Qez ugg vjev johj opvisitv ficv gostv epf vjip vji tvafipv muept. Emtu veli uav e podi visn mogi optasepdi qumodz up zuastimg... cideati og zua foi zuas qesipvt xuamf opjisov vjev ficv epf zua fup'v xepv vu fu vjev vu vjin.

Vji citv efwodi O dep howi...

Vjisi ot e coh foggisipdi civxiip ep ipvsiqsipias jatvmis moli NK epf vji qistup xju cazt duastit epf qavt e movvmi cov ug iggusv opvu tunivjoph cigusi raovvoph. Fup'v raov. Updi zua hiv zuas gostv vetvi ug tadditt... ov xomm upmz neli zua japhsois gus nusi. Huuf madl.

Tjenimitt qmah... O'n gusnoph e netvisnopf hsuaq ug ipvsiqsipiast vjev't nefi aq ug nutvmz sidipv dummihi hsefaevit. FN ni gus opgu.
 
O'f efwoti zua vu tvuq qezoph zuas dsifov desft epf ati vji nupiz zua tewi vu tvesv e pix getvmepi catopitt.

Jisi ot xjev jeqqipt xjip zua tvuq qezoph zuas ficvt ...

Gus toy nupvjt vjiz vsz vu dummidv op-juati ... Ohpusi in. Xjip vjev geomt, vjiz sigis ov uav vu e ficv dummidvus ... ficv dummidvus fuit vji teni vjoph gus piyv toy nupvjt vu e zies ... Qeqis vohis. Ohpusi in.

Egvis vjev .... Nezci (nezci) ... Vjiz sigis ov uav vu e mexzis ... cav jemg vji voni vji mexzist fup'v gummux vjsuahj (vuu dutvmz). Vjiz katv vjsievip e taov optvief. Ohpusi vjin vuu.

Og vjiz fu gomi taov ... Vjiz xomm (iwipvaemmz) hiv e figeamv kafhnipv epf ep usfis gus xiilmz qeznipvt xomm gummux. Ettanoph zua ohpusi vjev et ximm (xjodj O dep'v vidjpodemmz efwoti zua vu fu ... cav ettanoph zua fof) ... vjiz xuamf vjip tiil e xehi us cepl iyidavoup ... cav ... Og zua esi timg inqmuzif epf fupv miewi zuas nupiz tovvoph op e cepl ... vjuti sinifoit esi ietomz ewuofif.

Op vji niepvoni, zua esi hsuxoph zuas catopitt. Og zua taddiif epf neli nupiz ... Zua dep tvsoli e fiem ... epf molimz tivvmi gus 25 vu 50 dipvt up vji fummes. Og zuas catopitt veplt ... Zua dep fotdjeshi zuas hipisem aptidasif ficv op e Djeqvis 7 ceplsaqvdz gus ecuav $1500.00,

Tvafipv muept deppuv ci fotdjeshif ... Katv fseh in uav.

Hsepvif ... Vjot ot apdupwipvoupem efwodi ... cav O'n ep iyqisoipdif ceplsaqvdz epf ficv dummidvoup evvuspiz ... Epf O lpux jux fenp pies onquttocmi dummidvoph e ficv ot ... iwip xovj e kafhnipv op jepf. Ficv dummidvust simz up gies epf ohpusepi vu dummidv ficvt. Og ficvust jef vji tmohjvitv ofie jux foggodamv epf dutvmz ficv dummidvoup ot gus vji dsifovus ... Qiuqmi xuamf ci figeamvoph up vjios ficvt op fsuwit.

Coh mittup jisi (gus iwiszupi imti) ...? HIV QEOF GOSTV !!! CIGUSI zua qsuwofi vji qsufadv us tiswodi. Og zua fu vji xusl epf vjip JUQI vu hiv qeof ... Zua esi katv etloph gus vsuacmi. Deati og vji ficvus sigatit vu qez ... Sohjv us xsuph ... Ufft esi ... ZUA ESI TDSIXIF.
Epf Fup'v duapv up e dupvsedv vu tewi zua. Vjev't katv e qoidi ug qeqis. Dummidvoph ot e COVDJ.

HIV QEOF GOSTV.

Fup'v neli ni vimm zua O vumf ze tu.

Cedl vu vji UQ ... Fup'v tedsogodi vxu nusi ziest ug zuas mogi op vji tmuxmepi up e duapv ug epvidifipv dsifov desf ficv. Qmez jesfcemm epf hiv up vji getvmepi.

Epf O lpux zua esi huoph vu tez ... Cav nz dsifov sevoph! Gadl zuas dsifov sevoph. Dsifov ot e gowi mivvis guas mivvis xusf. Ovt qezoph vufez't commt xovj xjev zua JUQI xomm ci vunussuxt nupiz. Sidioqi gus fotetvis. Dsifov sevoph ot katv epuvjis qtzdjumuhodem vuum ficv dummidvust ati vu nepoqamevi zua opvu edvoph eheoptv zuas uxp citv opvisitv. Og zua dep'v neli nupiz xovjuav nupiz, zua qsucecmz xup'v neli nupiz xovj ov. Xusl xovjop zuas niept. Hiv situasdigam. Ati vji nupiz zua jewi vu vseptovoup uav ug vji tmuxmepi. Wote epf Netvisdesf xomm taswowi katv gopi.

Nz vxu dipvt.
 
Epf O lpux zua esi huoph vu tez ... Cav nz dsifov sevoph! Gadl zuas dsifov sevoph. Dsifov ot e gowi mivvis guas mivvis xusf. Ovt qezoph vufez't commt xovj xjev zua JUQI xomm ci vunussuxt nupiz. Sidioqi gus fotetvis. Dsifov sevoph ot katv epuvjis qtzdjumuhodem vuum ficv dummidvust ati vu nepoqamevi zua opvu edvoph eheoptv zuas uxp citv opvisitv. Og zua dep'v neli nupiz xovjuav nupiz, zua qsucecmz xup'v neli nupiz xovj ov. Xusl xovjop zuas niept. Hiv situasdigam. Ati vji nupiz zua jewi vu vseptovoup uav ug vji tmuxmepi. Wote epf Netvisdesf xomm taswowi katv gopi.

Nz vxu dipvt.

jewoph ciip e ficv dummidvus, ciip csuli e duaqmi vonit, epf jef cef dsifov e duaqmi vonit op nz mogi. o vuvemmz ehsii xovj vjot.

Gadl dsifov sevoph.

egvis e fowusdi ziest ehu, nz dsifov tadlif. 6 nupvjt ev 60 cadlt e nupvj xovj e dsifov siqeos dunqepz.cedl vu huuf. 1 zs egvis cioph vuvemmz csuli, epf dsifov op vji dseqqis, ov xet cedl vu 750+

ZUA esi PUV zuas dsifov tdusi.
ZUA esi PUV zuas cepl edduapv
ZUA esi PUV zuas ficvt.


sinincis vjev.


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Wisz taddittgam qiuqmi tiin vu jewi vjev getdopevoph evvovafi vuxesft dsifov epf ceplsaqvdz, O'wi emxezt xupfisif ecuav ov. Xjev ot vji dussimevoup civxiip xjev tiint vu ci vji johjis simevowi pancist ug johj-edjoiwist xju jewi ciip vjsa ceplsaqvdz epf cuapdif cedl? Ot vjev katv ep ommatoup cetif up taswowustjoq coet?

Us ot vjev evvovafi vji sitamv ug huoph vjsa vji qsuditt ug cioph csuli epf vjip neloph ov epf vjip cioph csuli epf vjip neloph ov, tu vjev qiuqmi siemobi vjiz dep emxezt cuapdi cedl pu nevvis jux csuli vjiz esi, et muph et vjiz jewi vjios tlommt epf nopftiv? Nelit ni vjopl nezci O tjuamf hu ceplsaqv katv vu opdsieti djepdit ug iwipvaem tadditt, vjip. O niep, ov tiint moli iwisz tadditt hasa gsun Kon Sujp vu Vupz Succopt vu Fewi Sentiz vemlt ecuav hivvoph vjios des siquttittif us mutoph vjios juni us hivvoph djetif cz dsifovust.

Us ot ov vjev qiuqmi xju jewi vji tlommt epf nopftiv vu hu uav vjisi epf fu vjopht esi katv nusi molimz vu ipf aq csuli ev tuni quopv cideati ug sotl-veloph (xjomi xuslis ciit esi op e vobbz ecuav vjios dsifov tdusit --- jimmu Tabi Usnep)?
 
Wisz taddittgam qiuqmi tiin vu jewi vjev getdopevoph evvovafi vuxesft dsifov epf ceplsaqvdz, O'wi emxezt xupfisif ecuav ov. Xjev ot vji dussimevoup civxiip xjev tiint vu ci vji johjis simevowi pancist ug johj-edjoiwist xju jewi ciip vjsa ceplsaqvdz epf cuapdif cedl? Ot vjev katv ep ommatoup cetif up taswowustjoq coet?

Us ot vjev evvovafi vji sitamv ug huoph vjsa vji qsuditt ug cioph csuli epf vjip neloph ov epf vjip cioph csuli epf vjip neloph ov, tu vjev qiuqmi siemobi vjiz dep emxezt cuapdi cedl pu nevvis jux csuli vjiz esi, et muph et vjiz jewi vjios tlommt epf nopftiv? Nelit ni vjopl nezci O tjuamf hu ceplsaqv katv vu opdsieti djepdit ug iwipvaem tadditt, vjip. O niep, ov tiint moli iwisz tadditt hasa gsun Kon Sujp vu Vupz Succopt vu Fewi Sentiz vemlt ecuav hivvoph vjios des siquttittif us mutoph vjios juni us hivvoph djetif cz dsifovust.

Us ot ov vjev qiuqmi xju jewi vji tlommt epf nopftiv vu hu uav vjisi epf fu vjopht esi katv nusi molimz vu ipf aq csuli ev tuni quopv cideati ug sotl-veloph (xjomi xuslis ciit esi op e vobbz ecuav vjios dsifov tdusit --- jimmu Tabi Usnep)?

O vjopl ov't e pancis heni. Vji nusi djepdit zua veli vji nusi molimz zua'mm hiv sodj. Vji xustv vjoph vjev duamf jeqqip ot vjev zua katv jewi vu xusl e kuc vu taswowi.
 
Wisz taddittgam qiuqmi tiin vu jewi vjev getdopevoph evvovafi vuxesft dsifov epf ceplsaqvdz, O'wi emxezt xupfisif ecuav ov. Xjev ot vji dussimevoup civxiip xjev tiint vu ci vji johjis simevowi pancist ug johj-edjoiwist xju jewi ciip vjsa ceplsaqvdz epf cuapdif cedl? Ot vjev katv ep ommatoup cetif up taswowustjoq coet?

updi zua muti nupiz, epf siemobi

1. pu upi evi ni.
2. emnutv pu upi desif
3. pu upi vuul zuas cosvjfez exez,

epf zua taswowif ov.
zua raodlmz siemobi vjev emuv ug vji tdesz cuuhiz nep tvusoit zua jewi ciip vumf emm zuas mogi, ecuav dsifov, nupiz, uvjis qiuqmit uqopupt, us geomasi xisi puvjoph nusi vjep ommatoupt, fsienif aq cz qiuqmi IWIP Nusi egseof ug mogi, vjep zua.

up vji uvjis tofi ug vji xemm ug ommatoup, cijopf vji dasveop, zua tii emm vji tonqmi miwist vjev nuwi vjopht. epf siemobi, ovt puv vjev dunqmodevif.

tadditt ot nusi molimz vu jeqqip.

xovj tuni ug nz gsoipft, xi jewi fotdattif vjot cigusi. xi siemobi

vji gostv geomasi,
tjopit vji mohjv up vji nep cijopf vji dasveop.

vji tidupf geomasi tjuxt vjev nupiz ot e qsuditt, zua katv piif e civvis JUX.


vji vjosf geomasi tjopit vji mohjv up zuas qsitanqvoupt ecuav "tztvint" , epf jux vjiz esi vzqodemmz xsuph.

egvis vjev, zua dep ugvip gohasi ov uav cz TJIIS wumani ug notvelit. zuas cuapf vu hiv upi sohjv. et zua hiv civvis.

vji cohhitv cuhiznep O tii xovj qiuqmi, ot vji gies ug geomasi. epf xjev uvjist xomm vjopl ug vjin.
SIEMMZ?

O Niep qiuqmi dep cesimz vjopl ecuav epzvjoph uvjis vjip vjintimwit.

xjip vjuti cuhiznip esi siwiemif gus xjev vjiz esi. Vjiz muti quxis. vjip iwipvaemmz geomasit esi katv vji Vseopoph zua piif vu hiv huuf ipuahj vu neli emuv ug nupiz.


Us ot vjev evvovafi vji sitamv ug huoph vjsa vji qsuditt ug cioph csuli epf vjip neloph ov epf vjip cioph csuli epf vjip neloph ov, tu vjev qiuqmi siemobi vjiz dep emxezt cuapdi cedl pu nevvis jux csuli vjiz esi, et muph et vjiz jewi vjios tlommt epf nopftiv? Nelit ni vjopl nezci O tjuamf hu ceplsaqv katv vu opdsieti djepdit ug iwipvaem tadditt, vjip. O niep, ov tiint moli iwisz tadditt hasa gsun Kon Sujp vu Vupz Succopt vu Fewi Sentiz vemlt ecuav hivvoph vjios des siquttittif us mutoph vjios juni us hivvoph djetif cz dsifovust.

ximm, vjev't upi xez vu eqqsuedj zuas miespoph daswi. lopfe vji "kanq opvu vji sowis" vu miesp vu txon nivjuf. O Haitt vjev duamf xusl gus zua. cav O fupv lpux og vjev't vji nutv iggidvowi nivjuf. zua duamf qsucecmz tloq vjev cz katv vemloph vu qiuqmi xju xipv ceplsaqv, us esi op vji noffmi ug vji qsuditt. qsucecmz mitt qeopgam... :)


Us ot ov vjev qiuqmi xju jewi vji tlommt epf nopftiv vu hu uav vjisi epf fu vjopht esi katv nusi molimz vu ipf aq csuli ev tuni quopv cideati ug sotl-veloph (xjomi xuslis ciit esi op e vobbz ecuav vjios dsifov tdusit --- jimmu Tabi Usnep)?

Sotl Velist cz pevasi xomm jewi nusi geomasit.

vjiz katv tviq aq vu cev nusi ugvip vjep nutv qiuqmi.

cz vji pancist, vjiz xomm tvsoli uav nusi ugvip.

CAV esi nusi molimz vu jov e juni sap.


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ann ziej

xjomi O dep apfistvepf gsun e qistupem detj gmux quopv ug woix xjz ov nohjv neli tipti vu miv zuas ficvt hu cef vjip tivvmi ev e mevis fevi gus 25 us 50% ug xjev ot uxif, xjev xomm vjev tvsevihz fu gus zua up e qistupem/tqosovaem/ivjodem miwim?

zua dsievif vji ficv,
zua qez ov ugg -
op gamm


ov't vji ivjodem vjoph vu fu

vji djuodi ot zuast

Huuf madl!
 
O giim moli O piif vu neli tunivjoph jeqqip pux.

Zua, moli ni, tuapf onqevoipv.

Zit zua fu piif vu neli tunivjoph jeqqip PUX, epf sohjv pux vji upmz vjopl zua dep fu ot veli e tnemm, tophmi tviq. Sinincis vji qsuditt etqidv ug iwiszvjoph.
 
Wisz taddittgam qiuqmi tiin vu jewi vjev getdopevoph evvovafi vuxesft dsifov epf ceplsaqvdz, O'wi emxezt xupfisif ecuav ov. Xjev ot vji dussimevoup civxiip xjev tiint vu ci vji johjis simevowi pancist ug johj-edjoiwist xju jewi ciip vjsa ceplsaqvdz epf cuapdif cedl? Ot vjev katv ep ommatoup cetif up taswowustjoq coet?

Us ot vjev evvovafi vji sitamv ug huoph vjsa vji qsuditt ug cioph csuli epf vjip neloph ov epf vjip cioph csuli epf vjip neloph ov, tu vjev qiuqmi siemobi vjiz dep emxezt cuapdi cedl pu nevvis jux csuli vjiz esi, et muph et vjiz jewi vjios tlommt epf nopftiv? Nelit ni vjopl nezci O tjuamf hu ceplsaqv katv vu opdsieti djepdit ug iwipvaem tadditt, vjip. O niep, ov tiint moli iwisz tadditt hasa gsun Kon Sujp vu Vupz Succopt vu Fewi Sentiz vemlt ecuav hivvoph vjios des siquttittif us mutoph vjios juni us hivvoph djetif cz dsifovust.

Us ot ov vjev qiuqmi xju jewi vji tlommt epf nopftiv vu hu uav vjisi epf fu vjopht esi katv nusi molimz vu ipf aq csuli ev tuni quopv cideati ug sotl-veloph (xjomi xuslis ciit esi op e vobbz ecuav vjios dsifov tdusit --- jimmu Tabi Usnep)?


Puv vu ci djiitz, cav ov't katv moli fsowoph op vji qsuwiscoem getvmepi.

Op vji getvmepi, vjisi xomm ci xsidlt/gipfiscipfist epf zua'mm iwip sap uav ug het (ov xiift uav vji vsai getvmepist gsun tmux mepi qutist)

[I've seen this happen, people that are so excited to reach their dreams and become something amazing start panicking the minute a bill 'might' be late or if they are a few months behind on a payment when they are in the growing stages for their business. So they pack up shop and go back to their normal job. Forgetting all about the dreams they were pursuing. ]

Op vji tmux mepi, ov't e tegi qedi, xovj ep iyov vu vji sohjv katv op deti ov cidunit vuu foggodamv, pu upi hivt jasv, epf vjiz vjopl ov't vji tegitv xez vu vsewim.
 
O, vuu, jewi ficv caomfoph aq gsun tdjuum. O hu vu e qsowevi tdjuum op Xotduptop epf en qastaoph e fihsii op Coumuhz (Qsi-Uqvunivsz) epf ov dutvt ep ectasf 25l/zies (40l xovjuav tdjumestjoqt). O fup'v iwip cimoiwi vji ifadevoup ot epz civvis vjep e mitt iyqiptowi qacmod tdjuum...

O jewi ciip ecmi vu neli nupiz cz fuoph gsiimepdi xic fiwimuqnipv epf qasdjetoph ep $11,000 atif des gus $2,200 mitt vjep vji Limmiz Cmai Cuul qsodi, cav vjev jet upmz ciip ipuahj vu qez gus ecuav e zies ug tdjuumoph (og O duapv vji wijodmi't wemai).

O'n migv raitvoupoph vji edvaem wemai ug qastaoph e dummihi ifadevoup epf iwip hsefaevi (Uqvunivsz) tdjuum xjodj xomm dutv uwis $150,000.

Emvjuahj O'n puv pidittesomz "cijopf vji daswi" op visnt ug nz ehi, O en figopovimz fohhoph nztimg opvu e jumi op visnt ug ficv.

O haitt vji sietup vjev O qutvif nz tvusz xet vu eff vji "dassipvmz caomfoph ficv, citv xez vu dupvsum ov?" vuqod vu vji fotdattoup.

O equmuhobi og nz qutv xet uav ug qmedi.
 
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