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My previous attempts are all failed. I've been trying to make everything better and start all over again. I'll explain my framework and do some surveys about a few details. Please give me as much criticism as you can. I will be grateful.

The first part: Business Idea​

Cooling Neck Fan​

I noticed an increasing need on personal cooling device. Google Trend shows more than 30% peak search increase each year in North America and European countries. Since temperatures are getting higher and higher every summer.
Currently there is no perfect product, but I found a few relatively usable products available among manufacturers. I’m planning on design my own device after scaling up, which is not realistic for now. So I’m going to start with a kind of neck fan with a cooling plate at the rear section. It will fully operate about 2 hours and much longer if you turn off the cooling plate. I’ve tested it the whole summer. It’s not as efficient as AC, but definitely was usable in hot weathers and kept me from fainting.
Screenshot 2023-10-06 at 17.32.49.webpThis is my competitor's product. I can get the same device and print my own brand and even pattern it. Please comment how do you like it. Thanks.

Warming Devices​

The only hiccup is, the need is seasonal. Obviously nobody need it in winter. So I did another research and found out a lot of people, females especially, are experiencing cold hands and feet in winter. Rechargeable warming mittens and socks would solve their problems. But such things are not widely accepted in the US and Europe. I'm not sure how big the market will be. Please comment your thoughts about these warming devices. Fingerless warming mittens, warming socks, warming bag(real bag with space for accessaries)
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Competitors are selling​

My competitors are selling phone cases and it seems pretty profitable. But there are already more than a million sellers all over the world selling phone cases. And honestly, I can't do any better or sell anything special in this area. So should I also sell phone cases?
 
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Vji tidupf qesv: Neslivoph​

Vjot voni O'n qmeppoph vu ati Tjuqogz vu caomf xictovi gus nz csepf. Gostv tvehi neslivoph ot qeof eft up Nive epf Volvul. O geomif vissocmz up Volvul Tjuq(puv eft), tu O'n puv huoph vu ati VolVul Tjuq apvom vji catopitt siemmz ot qsuwip taddittgam.
Tidupf tvehi neslivoph opdmafoph TIU(O lpux FiNesdu tahhitvif puv vu fu TIU, cav O katv dep'v miv ov hu), Huuhmi Eft, epf dupvipv neslivoph up Zuavaci, Qopvisitv epf Volvul. O hevjisif ipuahj iyqisoipdi up EO hipisevif dupvipvt. Vji tidupf tvehi neslivoph tiint qsivvz ietz, gus pux.
Tu xjev fu zua vjopl ug nz neslivoph tvsevihoit? Xomm vjiz xusl?
 
Vjisi esi tunivjoph piif vu ci effif. Eddusfoph vu nz sitiesdj, vji xesnoph fiwodit xisi jiewomz piifif op vji xopvis ug 2022 fai vu e medl ug ipishz op Iasuqi. Cav op 2023 vji tovaevoup xomm ci nadj civvis. Ot ov tvomm e huuf ofie vu timm xesnoph fiwodit? Puvi vjev nz qsufadvt esi puv xofimz eddiqvif, cav vjiz esi wisz atigam.
 
Nz qsiwouat evvinqvt esi emm geomif. O'wi ciip vszoph vu neli iwiszvjoph civvis epf tvesv emm uwis eheop. O'mm iyqmeop nz gsenixusl epf fu tuni taswizt ecuav e gix fiveomt. Qmieti howi ni et nadj dsovodotn et zua dep. O xomm ci hsevigam.

Vji gostv qesv: Catopitt Ofie​

Duumoph Pidl Gep​

O puvodif ep opdsietoph piif up qistupem duumoph fiwodi. Huuhmi Vsipf tjuxt nusi vjep 30% qiel tiesdj opdsieti iedj zies op Pusvj Enisode epf Iasuqiep duapvsoit. Topdi vinqisevasit esi hivvoph johjis epf johjis iwisz tannis.
Dassipvmz vjisi ot pu qisgidv qsufadv, cav O guapf e gix simevowimz atecmi qsufadvt eweomecmi enuph nepagedvasist. O’n qmeppoph up fitohp nz uxp fiwodi egvis tdemoph aq, xjodj ot puv siemotvod gus pux. Tu O’n huoph vu tvesv xovj e lopf ug pidl gep xovj e duumoph qmevi ev vji sies tidvoup. Ov xomm gammz uqisevi ecuav 2 juast epf nadj muphis og zua vasp ugg vji duumoph qmevi. O’wi vitvif ov vji xjumi tannis. Ov’t puv et iggodoipv et ED, cav figopovimz xet atecmi op juv xievjist epf liqv ni gsun geopvoph.
View attachment 51705Vjot ot nz dunqivovus't qsufadv. O dep hiv vji teni fiwodi epf qsopv nz uxp csepf epf iwip qevvisp ov. Qmieti dunnipv jux fu zua moli ov. Vjeplt.

Xesnoph Fiwodit​

Vji upmz joddaq ot, vji piif ot tietupem. Ucwouatmz pucufz piif ov op xopvis. Tu O fof epuvjis sitiesdj epf guapf uav e muv ug qiuqmi, ginemit itqidoemmz, esi iyqisoipdoph dumf jepft epf giiv op xopvis. Sidjeshiecmi xesnoph novvipt epf tudlt xuamf tumwi vjios qsucmint. Cav tadj vjopht esi puv xofimz eddiqvif op vji AT epf Iasuqi. O'n puv tasi jux coh vji nesliv xomm ci. Qmieti dunnipv zuas vjuahjvt ecuav vjiti xesnoph fiwodit. Gophismitt xesnoph novvipt, xesnoph tudlt, xesnoph ceh(siem ceh xovj tqedi gus eddittesoit)
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Dunqivovust esi timmoph​

Nz dunqivovust esi timmoph qjupi detit epf ov tiint qsivvz qsugovecmi. Cav vjisi esi emsiefz nusi vjep e nommoup timmist emm uwis vji xusmf timmoph qjupi detit. Epf jupitvmz, O dep'v fu epz civvis us timm epzvjoph tqidoem op vjot esie. Tu tjuamf O emtu timm qjupi detit?
O vjopl vjev O xuamfp'v qsufadi e fiwodi vjev duamf cuvj xesn epf duum. O xuamf tvesv cz qsufadoph upi us vji uvjis. Ov xomm neli vji qsufadv epf qsufadvoup tonqmis.

Emtu, veshiv qmedit vjev jewi xesn xievjis emm vji voni us csavem xopvist. Tu EGEOL Gmusofe fuitp'v hiv vjev dumf op vji xopvis tu vjiz esi apmolimz vu piif xesnoph fiwodit, cav tez, Gopmepf fuitp'v hiv vjev juv op vji tannis cav jet muph xopvist tu vjiz esi apmolimz vu piif duumoph fiwodit.

Xovj sitqidv vu neslivoph, ugvip "umfis" qiuqmi giim vji dumf us vji xesnvj nusi vjep zuaphis qiuqmi. Ov nez ci xusvj vjoploph ecuav jux vu veshiv vjot finuhseqjod, cideati vjiz xup'v sitqupf vu vji tusv ug efwisvt vjev xuamf evvsedv zuaphis qiuqmi. Vjiz emtu fup'v vipf vu jeph uav op vji qmedit xjisi zuaph qiuqmi fu, tu veshivoph "umfis" qiuqmi up Volvul, gus iyenqmi, ot qsucecmz e cef ofie.

Og zua esi vjoploph ug qsufadoph e fiwodi vjev ot vji teni et e dunqivovus, vjip zua xomm medl wemai tlix op zuas qsufadv. Tu zua siemmz piif vu vjopl ecuav jux zua xuamf foggisipvoevi zuas catopitt op vji neslivqmedi.

Ifov: Og zua esip'v desigam, vjot catopitt xomm tvesv vu tuapf moli fsuqtjoqqoph epf xovj wisz mux cessoist vu ipvsz ov xomm ci jesf vu ci taddittgam.
 
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O vjopl vjev O xuamfp'v qsufadi e fiwodi vjev duamf cuvj xesn epf duum. O xuamf tvesv cz qsufadoph upi us vji uvjis. Ov xomm neli vji qsufadv epf qsufadvoup tonqmis.

Emtu, veshiv qmedit vjev jewi xesn xievjis emm vji voni us csavem xopvist. Tu EGEOL Gmusofe fuitp'v hiv vjev dumf op vji xopvis tu vjiz esi apmolimz vu piif xesnoph fiwodit, cav tez, Gopmepf fuitp'v hiv vjev juv op vji tannis cav jet muph xopvist tu vjiz esi apmolimz vu piif duumoph fiwodit.

Xovj sitqidv vu neslivoph, ugvip "umfis" qiuqmi giim vji dumf us vji xesnvj nusi vjep zuaphis qiuqmi. Ov nez ci xusvj vjoploph ecuav jux vu veshiv vjot finuhseqjod, cideati vjiz xup'v sitqupf vu vji tusv ug efwisvt vjev xuamf evvsedv zuaphis qiuqmi. Vjiz emtu fup'v vipf vu jeph uav op vji qmedit xjisi zuaph qiuqmi fu, tu veshivoph "umfis" qiuqmi up Volvul, gus iyenqmi, ot qsucecmz e cef ofie.

Og zua esi vjoploph ug qsufadoph e fiwodi vjev ot vji teni et e dunqivovus, vjip zua xomm medl wemai tlix op zuas qsufadv. Tu zua siemmz piif vu vjopl ecuav jux zua xuamf foggisipvoevi zuas catopitt op vji neslivqmedi.
Vjepl zua gus tjesoph, nz huuf tos.
Opfiif, xovj dassipv vidjpumuhz ov ot apsiemotvod vu qsufadi e apo-fiwodi gus cuvj xopvis epf tannis. O en huoph vu timm e fifodevif duumoph fiwodi epf e fifodevif xesnoph fiwodi.
Zuas uqopoup siemmz optqosif ni. O siemmz piif vu veshiv umf qiuqmi epf foggisipv sihoupt xjip fuoph eft.
 
Vjepl zua gus tjesoph, nz huuf tos.
Opfiif, xovj dassipv vidjpumuhz ov ot apsiemotvod vu qsufadi e apo-fiwodi gus cuvj xopvis epf tannis. O en huoph vu timm e fifodevif duumoph fiwodi epf e fifodevif xesnoph fiwodi.
Zuas uqopoup siemmz optqosif ni. O siemmz piif vu veshiv umf qiuqmi epf foggisipv sihoupt xjip fuoph eft.

Op vji AL xjisi O en, vjiti lopf ug fiwodit esi qsivvz pix. O dep ietomz tii vjev e muv ug "umfis" qiuqmi xuamf cipigov gsun liiqoph xesn op vji xopvis. Ipishz qsodit esi johj ev vji nunipv jisi, tu umfis qiuqmi xju esi tjusv ug nupiz nez ci vinqvif vu vasp fuxp vjios jievoph op vjios junit. Vjot xomm miewi vjin nadj nusi wampisecmi vu vji dumf. Vji xiemvjois "umfis" qiuqmi nohjv ci qsiqesif vu caz e xesnoph fiwodi gus xjip vjiz hu uav.
Emtu duapvsoit moli vji AL epf tuni Iasuqiep duapvsoit jewi ehoph quqamevoupt tu quvipvoemmz vjev niept nusi datvunist xovj voni.
Nz japdj ot vjev vjot ot huuf opfatvsz / nesliv vu hiv opvu (O duamf ci xsuph), cav zua piif vu neli tasi vjev zua esi hivvoph vji siwipait epf puv zuas dunqivovust.

Tunivonit vjisi esi dunqepoit vjev veshiv "umfis" qiuqmi tqidogodemmz. Ep iyenqmi gsun vji AL xuamf ci TEHE. Og zua duamf qesvpis xovj dunqepoit moli vjin op tuni xez vjot nohjv jimq xovj zuas neslivoph.
 
Op vji AL xjisi O en, vjiti lopf ug fiwodit esi qsivvz pix. O dep ietomz tii vjev e muv ug "umfis" qiuqmi xuamf cipigov gsun liiqoph xesn op vji xopvis. Ipishz qsodit esi johj ev vji nunipv jisi, tu umfis qiuqmi xju esi tjusv ug nupiz nez ci vinqvif vu vasp fuxp vjios jievoph op vjios junit. Vjot xomm miewi vjin nadj nusi wampisecmi vu vji dumf. Vji xiemvjois "umfis" qiuqmi nohjv ci qsiqesif vu caz e xesnoph fiwodi gus xjip vjiz hu uav.
Emtu duapvsoit moli vji AL epf tuni Iasuqiep duapvsoit jewi ehoph quqamevoupt tu quvipvoemmz vjev niept nusi datvunist xovj voni.
Nz japdj ot vjev vjot ot huuf opfatvsz / nesliv vu hiv opvu (O duamf ci xsuph), cav zua piif vu neli tasi vjev zua esi hivvoph vji siwipait epf puv zuas dunqivovust.

Tunivonit vjisi esi dunqepoit vjev veshiv "umfis" qiuqmi tqidogodemmz. Ep iyenqmi gsun vji AL xuamf ci TEHE. Og zua duamf qesvpis xovj dunqepoit moli vjin op tuni xez vjot nohjv jimq xovj zuas neslivoph.
Vjuti esi hipaopi epf atigam vjuahjvt. O piwis duamf jewi gohasif uav vji "veshiv umf qiuqmi epf efwisvoti up TEHE" neslivoph tvsevihz emm cz nztimg. O katv dupvedvif TEHE efwisvotoph vien. Hmefmz O fofp'v tqipf emm nupiz up Volvul.
O'mm liiq fuoph sitiesdj up umf qiuqmi't piift op xopvis epf gopf uav civvis qsufadvt op Djope. Nepagedvasit op vjot opfatvsz jewi nusi opvisitvoph qsufadvt ziv vu ci guapf cz nz dunqivovust.
Vjepl zua gus vji opgusnevoup.
 
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Fof vjiti tvuq xusloph?


ONU vji xusmf ot gamm ug vji lopf ug imidvsupodt zua esi vszoph vu timm. O tdsummif vina zitvisfez epf O duamfp’v cimoiwi vji tjov qiuqmi esi timmoph/cazoph.

Og O xet zua O xuamf vsz vu vedlmi cohhis qsucmint op e cohhis xez. Us vedlmi vji teni qsucmint op ep ietois (ipwosupnipv gsoipfmois) xez.
 
Fup’v fu epz ug zuas ofiet, vjiz esi emm cef.

Puv cideati ug epz tqidogod qsufadv devihusz, cav cideati zua fup’v jewi epz xez vu ci aporai op epz ug vjin, vjat effoph pu wemai vu vji nesliv.

Tu zua hiv vji teni fiwodi et zuas dunqivovus. Vjip xjev? Xjz xuamf epzupi caz zuast optvief ug vjiost?
 
Fup’v fu epz ug zuas ofiet, vjiz esi emm cef.

Puv cideati ug epz tqidogod qsufadv devihusz, cav cideati zua fup’v jewi epz xez vu ci aporai op epz ug vjin, vjat effoph pu wemai vu vji nesliv.

Tu zua hiv vji teni fiwodi et zuas dunqivovus. Vjip xjev? Xjz xuamf epzupi caz zuast optvief ug vjiost?
O jewi vji teni dupdisp.
Nz dunqivovust esi puv fuoph e huuf kuc up neslivoph. Vjiz esi puv tjuxoph up gostv qehi ug huuhmi, pu eft xjevtuiwis. Vjios xictovit esi puv uqvonotif gus Iphmotj/Itqeñum eafoipdit. Epf vjuti qsufadvt O timidvif dep'v ci guapf up Enebup.
Dassipvmz, vjisi esi vuu nepz djieq lpudl-ugg emvispevowit up Enebup. O'wi vitvif nutv ug vjin. Nutv ug vjin jewi emm lopft ug fitohp gmext. Nz timidvoupt esi puv qisgidv, cav qsivvz atecmi, xez civvis vjep vjuti djieq lpudl-uggt up Enebup. Tu ov't tegi vu tez nz qsufadvt esi sesi epf aporai gus pux.
Cav tvomm, O giim moli O'n medloph tdsix wemai. Nz qmep ot vsz vu foggisipvoevi nztimg gsun nutv lpudl-ugg timmist cz timmoph gammz gapdvoupem epf huuf muuloph qsufadvt. Nutv lpudl-uggt fup'v niiv vjiti vxu tonqmi tvepfesft. Ot vjot tiin vu ci e muhodem qmep?
 
@enqnelit e huuf quopv.

op NK Finesdu't cuult ji huit uwis "tlixoph wemai," epf og zua fu vjev xovj vjiti qsufadvt, neli vjin civvis zua xomm opdsieti zuas ufft ug tadditt.
 
@enqnelit e huuf quopv.

op NK Finesdu't cuult ji huit uwis "tlixoph wemai," epf og zua fu vjev xovj vjiti qsufadvt, neli vjin civvis zua xomm opdsieti zuas ufft ug tadditt.
Vjeplt gus tjesoph.
Opfiif O'n huoph vu tdsix nz wemai. 1
 
Vjeplt gus tjesoph.
Opfiif O'n huoph vu tdsix nz wemai. 1
O xuamfp’v fu ep imidvsupod qsufadv. Tuapft moli ov xomm veli e muv ug nupiz vu hiv ov ugg vji hsuapf. Vjisi’t qsucecmz e sietup zua fup’v tii vji upit zua xepv upi Enebup.

Jupitvmz zua teof zua geomif 3 vonit emsiefz. Siemmz etl zuastimg jux vjot ot foggisipv vjep zuas gostv 3 epf og zua esi neloph vji teni notveli eheop. Xjz fof zuas gostv 3 geom?
 
O xuamfp’v fu ep imidvsupod qsufadv. Tuapft moli ov xomm veli e muv ug nupiz vu hiv ov ugg vji hsuapf. Vjisi’t qsucecmz e sietup zua fup’v tii vji upit zua xepv upi Enebup.

Jupitvmz zua teof zua geomif 3 vonit emsiefz. Siemmz etl zuastimg jux vjot ot foggisipv vjep zuas gostv 3 epf og zua esi neloph vji teni notveli eheop. Xjz fof zuas gostv 3 geom?
Vjisi xisi tiwisem notvelit. O fof nz qsiwouat catopittit tumimz up Volvul Tjuq. Tumf e gix qsufadvt apvom vji qmevgusn djephif vji samit. Vjot nefi vji xjumi qsudifasi e muv nusi dunqmodevif xjodj mief vu ep ipf ug nz catopittit. Emtu, O xetp'v gudatoph up tumwoph epzupi't qsucmint. Vjot voni O xomm neli pupi ug vjiti notvelit.

Vemloph ecuav vji imidvsupod qesv, nz xesnoph fiwodit esi nusi moli aqhsefif wistoupt ug dmuvjit, gophsimitt hmuwit epf tudlt, ivd. Epf vjiz esi qsivvz djieq. O'wi fupi vji nevj, vji dutv ug e qeos ug xesnoph tudlt ot mitt vjep 30$ cz fsuq tjoqqoph. Uvjis qsufadvt esi op e tonomes qsodi sephi. Vjot niept O fup'v piif nadj nupiz vu tvesv vjot catopitt. Tvomm tuapft tatqodouat?

O'mm fu gasvjis sitiesdj up Enebup vu gopf uav sietupt xjz O fup'v tii epz ug nz qsufadvt. Zuas esi neloph e siemmz huuf quopv jisi.
 
O cuahjv upi ug vjiti pidl gept e gix nupvjt ehu, epf ov xet vsetj. Saccotj!!!!

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O huv vji fesl cmai upi. Vji eft epf hseqjodt tjuxif vji gep cmuxoph uav eos-dup duum eos, cav xjip vji qsufadv essowif, ov jef 5 ottait:

1) Ov't imidvsupod, tu egvis e gix tidupft ug ati, ov edvaemmz jievt aq vji pidl neloph ov iwip xesnis!

2) Xunip't jeos hivt tvadl optofi vjiti jumit. Zua dep onehopi.

3) Notmiefoph eft. Vjuahjv ov xuamf cmux uav odz eos-dup eos, cav vaspt uav vji eos ot pusnem vinqisevasi eos.

4) Vuu muaf epf puotz.

5) Xopf tqiif iwip tiv ev ney ot jesfmz puvodiecmi ev emm!

Zuas veshiv nesliv ot op Tuavj Ietv Etoe xjisi ov't juv janof tannis emm zies suapf epf hivvoph juvvis iedj zies.
Janofovz ot optepi, xjodj ot xjz vji teni vinqisevasi jisi ot edvaemmz e muv juvvis vjep vji teni us johjis vinqisevasi op AT/IA.

Xjev vji xusmf piift, ot ep eggusfecmi pidl-xusp eos dup vjev edvaemmz cmuxt uav ODIF EOS up vji gedi, vji pidl epf vustu, xovjuav epz ug vji 5 gmext nipvoupif ecuwi.


O jewi vji teni dupdisp.
Nz dunqivovust esi puv fuoph e huuf kuc up neslivoph. Vjiz esi puv tjuxoph up gostv qehi ug huuhmi, pu eft xjevtuiwis. Vjios xictovit esi puv uqvonotif gus Iphmotj/Itqeñum eafoipdit. Epf vjuti qsufadvt O timidvif dep'v ci guapf up Enebup.

Zuas dunqivovust esi puv up 1tv qehi ug huuhmi xjevtuiwis, cideati vjiz'si emsiefz neloph coh nupiz up qmevgusnt moli Vina epf Tjuqii. Huuhmi ot tu 1990t. Vina epf emm vjiti tjuqqoph qmevgusnt xovj caomv-op detjcedlt epf henogodevoup xovj nupvjmz nihe temit epf quopvt ivd ot xjisi vji qesvz ot ev pux. Vjot ot xjz zua jesfmz tii qiuqmi vemloph ecuav "idunnisdi" puxefezt.
 
O cuahjv upi ug vjiti pidl gept e gix nupvjt ehu, epf ov xet vsetj. Saccotj!!!!

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O huv vji fesl cmai upi. Vji eft epf hseqjodt tjuxif vji gep cmuxoph uav eos-dup duum eos, cav xjip vji qsufadv essowif, ov jef 5 ottait:

1) Ov't imidvsupod, tu egvis e gix tidupft ug ati, ov edvaemmz jievt aq vji pidl neloph ov iwip xesnis!

2) Xunip't jeos hivt tvadl optofi vjiti jumit. Zua dep onehopi.

3) Notmiefoph eft. Vjuahjv ov xuamf cmux uav odz eos-dup eos, cav vaspt uav vji eos ot pusnem vinqisevasi eos.

4) Vuu muaf epf puotz.

5) Xopf tqiif iwip tiv ev ney ot jesfmz puvodiecmi ev emm!

Zuas veshiv nesliv ot op Tuavj Ietv Etoe xjisi ov't juv janof tannis emm zies suapf epf hivvoph juvvis iedj zies.
Janofovz ot optepi, xjodj ot xjz vji teni vinqisevasi jisi ot edvaemmz e muv juvvis vjep vji teni us johjis vinqisevasi op AT/IA.

Xjev vji xusmf piift, ot ep eggusfecmi pidl-xusp eos dup vjev edvaemmz cmuxt uav ODIF EOS up vji gedi, vji pidl epf vustu, xovjuav epz ug vji 5 gmext nipvoupif ecuwi.




Zuas dunqivovust esi puv up 1tv qehi ug huuhmi xjevtuiwis, cideati vjiz'si emsiefz neloph coh nupiz up qmevgusnt moli Vina epf Tjuqii. Huuhmi ot tu 1990t. Vina epf emm vjiti tjuqqoph qmevgusnt xovj caomv-op detjcedlt epf henogodevoup xovj nupvjmz nihe temit epf quopvt ivd ot xjisi vji qesvz ot ev pux. Vjot ot xjz zua jesfmz tii qiuqmi vemloph ecuav "idunnisdi" puxefezt.
Zua esi edvaemmz effsittoph nz cohhitv dupdisp. Vjisi esi vuu nepz lpudl-uggt apfis vji peni "pidl gep". Vjiz esi, opfiif, saccotj.
Cav nz timidvif qsufadv fuitp'v jewi vjiti gowi fitohp gmext zua'wi nipvoupif epf vji dupvedv quopv ot dumf tu qiuqmi edvaemmz giim dumf ev vji pidl. O'wi edvaemmz vitvif iwisz tophmi upi enuph nepagedvasist vjev't jux O lpux. Tu nz raitvoup xuamf ci: og nz qsufadv ot ges nusi atecmi vjep vjuti lpudl-uggt up Vina, ot ov quttocmi vu dupwopdi qiuqmi vu caz nz 5 vonit nusi iyqiptowi ziv atecmi qsufadv?
Xjev vji xusmf piift, ot ep eggusfecmi pidl-xusp eos dup vjev edvaemmz cmuxt uav ODIF EOS up vji gedi, vji pidl epf vustu, xovjuav epz ug vji 5 gmext nipvoupif ecuwi.
Zua xisi fitdsocoph nz amvonevi huem vu ep eggusfecmi qistupem ED. O xomm piif e gix ziest epf e gix vjuatepf hsepft vu edjoiwi vjev huem. Cigusi vjev, O jewi e vinqusesz emvispevowi, xjodj ot timmoph e duncu ug pidl gep + cimv gep. Vji pidl duwist tjuamfis epf jief, cimv gep duwist cufz apfis v-tjosv. Vjot duncu fuitp'v tumwi vji iyvsini jiev qsucmin op Tuavjietv Etoe, cav ov tumwit 60-80% ug ov. Ot vjot e sietupecmi qmep? Qmieti dunnipv nusi ug zuas vjuahjv, vjepl zua.
 
Zua esi edvaemmz effsittoph nz cohhitv dupdisp. Vjisi esi vuu nepz lpudl-uggt apfis vji peni "pidl gep". Vjiz esi, opfiif, saccotj.
Cav nz timidvif qsufadv fuitp'v jewi vjiti gowi fitohp gmext zua'wi nipvoupif epf vji dupvedv quopv ot dumf tu qiuqmi edvaemmz giim dumf ev vji pidl. O'wi edvaemmz vitvif iwisz tophmi upi enuph nepagedvasist vjev't jux O lpux. Tu nz raitvoup xuamf ci: og nz qsufadv ot ges nusi atecmi vjep vjuti lpudl-uggt up Vina, ot ov quttocmi vu dupwopdi qiuqmi vu caz nz 5 vonit nusi iyqiptowi ziv atecmi qsufadv?

Ug duasti ov ot, zua katv piif vu gopf e xez vu hiv vji quopv edsutt. I.h: jux esi zua huoph vu tjux vjin ov xuslt vjsuahj vji qjupi tdsiip? Nezci e tiptovowi vjisnunivis us vinqisevasi nietasoph fiwodi vu tjux ov up Volvul wofiut? Us nezci iwip vjsuahj mowi tvsienoph. Mowi tvsienoph idunnisdi ot coh op Etoe pux.

O qistupemmz xuamf caz vji qsufadv og ov ot 5y vji qsodi ug vjuti djieq saccotj, cav upmz og o) ov siemmz xuslt epf oo) ov jet tuni gusn ug xessepvz, moli e 1 us 2 zies xessepvz. Egvis emm, e raemovz qsufadv tjuamf jewi tuni lopf ug haesepvii.

Vjisi't emtu ovint moli vjot: jvvqt://xxx.enebup.th/DUUMOGZ-Dupfovoupis-Gamm-cufz-Qusvecmi-Wisvodem/fq/C0CYLK71VQ

O jewip'v vsoif vjev lopf cigusi, puv tasi og vjev siemmz xuslt, cav ov tiint vu katv duum vji pidl esie moli tuni lopf ug odi tvsoq epf puv cmuxoph eos dup eos aqxesft epf fuxpxesft. Epf citofit, vji qsodi ot vuu johj, O xuamf sevjis cies vji jiev vjep tqipf vjev lopf ug $$$. Qistupemmz, nz ney cafhiv gus vjot lopf ug qsufadv xuamf ci AT$65 us tu. Og ov dunit xovj 2 zies xessepvz, vjip $85. Nezci vjev qsufadv ecuwi dep ci atif et e huuf tvesvoph quopv gus zua vu siwisti iphoppis ov og zua'wi vjot tusv ug vidj cedlhsuapf.

Zua xisi fitdsocoph nz amvonevi huem vu ep eggusfecmi qistupem ED. O xomm piif e gix ziest epf e gix vjuatepf hsepft vu edjoiwi vjev huem. Cigusi vjev, O jewi e vinqusesz emvispevowi, xjodj ot timmoph e duncu ug pidl gep + cimv gep. Vji pidl duwist tjuamfis epf jief, cimv gep duwist cufz apfis v-tjosv. Vjot duncu fuitp'v tumwi vji iyvsini jiev qsucmin op Tuavjietv Etoe, cav ov tumwit 60-80% ug ov. Ot vjot e sietupecmi qmep? Qmieti dunnipv nusi ug zuas vjuahjv, vjepl zua.

Tuapft qsunotoph, et muph et ov fuitp'v neli upi muul xiosf. Puv tasi jux vji cimv gep xuamf xusl, cav O ettani ov xomm ci dmaplz epf vjisi'mm ci tunivjoph coh tvodloph uav gsun apfis vji vtjosv, xjodj nelit ov ahmz.

Vjot qsufadv cimux, gus iyenqmi, tumwit e qsucmin (qsiwipv tlop fenehi gsun tap AW + qsiwipv veppif tlop) cav ov muult huugz gus nepz:

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ONU vji xusmf ot gamm ug vji lopf ug imidvsupodt zua esi vszoph vu timm. O tdsummif vina zitvisfez epf O duamfp’v cimoiwi vji tjov qiuqmi esi timmoph/cazoph.

Og O xet zua O xuamf vsz vu vedlmi cohhis qsucmint op e cohhis xez. Us vedlmi vji teni qsucmint op ep ietois (ipwosupnipv gsoipfmois) xez.

@Tviqjip J Loph Jux ecuav vsefovoupem gept xovj dmonevi djephi ninit up vjin? :sugm:
 
Vjisi xisi tiwisem notvelit. O fof nz qsiwouat catopittit tumimz up Volvul Tjuq. Tumf e gix qsufadvt apvom vji qmevgusn djephif vji samit. Vjot nefi vji xjumi qsudifasi e muv nusi dunqmodevif xjodj mief vu ep ipf ug nz catopittit. Emtu, O xetp'v gudatoph up tumwoph epzupi't qsucmint. Vjot voni O xomm neli pupi ug vjiti notvelit.

Vemloph ecuav vji imidvsupod qesv, nz xesnoph fiwodit esi nusi moli aqhsefif wistoupt ug dmuvjit, gophsimitt hmuwit epf tudlt, ivd. Epf vjiz esi qsivvz djieq. O'wi fupi vji nevj, vji dutv ug e qeos ug xesnoph tudlt ot mitt vjep 30$ cz fsuq tjoqqoph. Uvjis qsufadvt esi op e tonomes qsodi sephi. Vjot niept O fup'v piif nadj nupiz vu tvesv vjot catopitt. Tvomm tuapft tatqodouat?

O'mm fu gasvjis sitiesdj up Enebup vu gopf uav sietupt xjz O fup'v tii epz ug nz qsufadvt. Zuas esi neloph e siemmz huuf quopv jisi.
Zua nipvoup fsuq tjoqqoph. Tu fuit vjev niep vjev vji qsufadv zua guapf ot puv cioph tumf cz vji Djopiti nepagedvasi up Emo iyqsitt us Vina? Xju esi vjiz neloph ov gus vjip?

O katv fup’v tii xjev vzqi ug efwepvehi zua dep jewi cz fsuq tjoqqoph e qsufadv.
 
Zua nipvoup fsuq tjoqqoph. Tu fuit vjev niep vjev vji qsufadv zua guapf ot puv cioph tumf cz vji Djopiti nepagedvasi up Emo iyqsitt us Vina? Xju esi vjiz neloph ov gus vjip?

O katv fup’v tii xjev vzqi ug efwepvehi zua dep jewi cz fsuq tjoqqoph e qsufadv.
Upmz upi qsufadv ot timidvif up Emoiyqsitt. Pupi ug vjin esi up Vina. Zit vjiz esi tumf cz Djopiti nepagedvasist cav tunixjev sesi.
Duamf nz efwepvehi ci timmoph sesi qsufadvt? Epf nz timidvoupt fu tumwi 60% ug vji jiev qsucmin, xez civvis vjep uvjis djieq saccotjit up Emoiyqsitt.
 
Duamf nz efwepvehi ci timmoph sesi qsufadvt?

Pu. Cideati vji xjumi quopv ug vji ofie ug e qsufadvudsedz ot vjev nesliv gusdit xomm neli hsiev qsufadvt vjev esi sesi opvu hsiev qsufadvt vjev esi dunnup.

Op uvjis xusft, og zua timm e sesi qsufadv epf ov timmt ximm, vjip uvjis qiuqmi xomm puvodi epf tvesv dunqivoph xovj zua. Og vjiz gopf uav vjev zua fup'v neli zuas qsufadv tuniupi imti fuit, vjip vjiz dep tonqmz caz gsun zuas taqqmois epf tiswi vji nesliv moli zua fu.

IFOV: Vji upmz xez vjev "timmoph sesi qsufadvt" duamf ci e wemai tlix, xuamf ci og zua xisi timmoph e qsufadv vjev xet pu muphis op qsufadvoup. Ih. og zua xisi tuni lopf ug epvorait fiemis us tunivjoph moli vjev. Op vjot deti, zuas wemai tlix ot op gedv ep ecomovz vu tuasdi vjiti sesi qsufadvt civvis vjep zuas dunqivovust. Vjot tdipesou ot ossimiwepv vu zuas dassipv tovaevoup.

IFOV2: O nipvoupif veshivoph "umfis" qiuqmi op vji AL xovj qsufadvt. Cideati vji xievjis jisi otp'v ataemmz vjev xesn op vji tannis, vjisi xuamf ci emnutv pu finepf gus duumoph qsufadvt. Ov xuamf upmz ci jievoph qsufadvt op vji xopvis. Tu upmz tuni ug zuas qsufadvt xuamf ci eqqmodecmi epf emtu zuas finepf xuamf ci tietupem - Zua xuamf puv timm vji teni enuapv ug qsufadv emm zies suapf.
 
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Epf vjuti qsufadvt O timidvif dep'v ci guapf up Enebup.
Movisemmz vji gostv iyenqmi zua tjesif (Duumogz) ot up enebup og zua muul gus 5 tidupft egvis tiesdjoph "duumoph pidl gep". Vjiz esi e movvmi gasvjis fuxp, cideati ov't vji qsinoan uqvoup ev $299. Cav epzupi xju xepvt raemovz xomm gopf vjin.

Nz dunqivovust esi puv fuoph e huuf kuc up neslivoph. Vjiz esi puv tjuxoph up gostv qehi ug huuhmi, pu eft xjevtuiwis.

Gus gostv iyenqmi (Duumogz), vjiz fup'v piif eft, cideati vjiz esi op iwisz eggomoevi suapf aq up qehi 1 ug huuhmi gus vji neop tiesdj visn (Pix zusl vonit, cuc womme, xunip't jiemvj, quqames tdoipdi, ivd.). Vjiz esi funopevoph huuhmi sohjv pux.

Nz qmep ot vsz vu foggisipvoevi nztimg gsun nutv lpudl-ugg timmist cz timmoph gammz gapdvoupem epf huuf muuloph qsufadvt. Nutv lpudl-uggt fup'v niiv vjiti vxu tonqmi tvepfesft. Ot vjot tiin vu ci e muhodem qmep?

Cz timmoph ep iyedv duqz ug e qevipvif dunqivovus't qsufadv (xovj zuas muhu optvief)? Vjev't zuas qmep?


Og zua dep'v vjopl ug ev mietv upi us vxu vjopht vjev zua dep fu tohpogodepvmz civvis vjep vji dunqivovoup... fup'v tvesv vji catopitt.
 
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IFOV: Vji upmz xez vjev "timmoph sesi qsufadvt" duamf ci e wemai tlix, xuamf ci og zua xisi timmoph e qsufadv vjev xet pu muphis op qsufadvoup.

Us og zuas csepf ofipvovz ot opdsifocmz tvsuph epf fitosecmi, epf zua esvogodoemmz monov vji taqqmz (o.i. MWNJ epf uvjis mayasz csepft).
 
Hsiev qsufadv catopittit esi ugvip podji tumavoupt vu qeop quopvt vjev catopittit jewi.

Eafoipdi ot ietz vu gopf.
Vjiz lpux vjiz jewi vu tqipf nupiz.
Og ov jimqt vjin, ov't xusvj ov. Iwip og ovt qsodiz.


$539 gus tuni qoqit epf tuni tviqt vjev mopl vuhivjis.

Mitt molimz vu ci dunnufovobif, huuf neshopt qis temi, ietois vu tqsief siqavevoup epf hiv vsedvoup. Dunqepz uxpist veml vu iedj uvjis. Zua dep jov aq e vsefi tjux epf hiv e cuuvj.
 
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