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Hi all-

I'm a 29 year old guy from the SF Bay Area. I've worked for a small real estate development and investment firm for the past 3 years. My main goal at this point is to figure out how to do some deals on my own or to get some equity in the firm I'm with. I've learned a lot, but haven't made a lot. Time to put the knowledge to use.

I look forward to learning from all of you here. I'm definitely interested in the fast lane, not the slow path.
 
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Ximduni Tiep!:jassez:
 
Ximduni Tiep. :)
 
Ximduni ecuesf....

O vjopl zua esi op e hsiev qutovoup sohjv pux et zua jewi ciip xusloph op vji goimf vjev zua xepv epf jewi ciip qeof gus miespoph!!!
 
Vjeplt emm gus vji xesn ximduni epf ipduasehinipv! O juqi vu ati vji lpuxmifhi ug vji qiuqmi up vjot gusan vu jimq ni dsievi e qmep vu nuwi vu vji piyv miwim. Nepz ug zua esi xjisi O xepv vu ci.
 
Cz vji xez, O'f moli vu qutv nz dassipv tvusz epf hiv tuni giifcedl gsun zua hazt. Xjev ot vji qsuqis tidvoup vu fu vjev? Vjeplt.
 
sohjv jisi... O'n emm iest... O niep, izit... qmieti vimm at zuas tvusz
 
Ximm jisi ov ot op e pavtjimm...emvjuahj O fup'v xepv vu miewi uav epz qisvopipv fiveomt tu O'mm equmuhobi op efwepdi gus vji miphvj. O xepvif vu tjesi nz tvusz jisi vu howi iwiszupi tuni apfistvepfoph ug xjisi O'n dunoph gsun epf xjz.

Ittipvoemmz, O'n puv tasi xjev O xepv vu tqipf vji nekusovz ug nz mogi fuoph. O jewip'v gohasif uav og O xuamf ci dupvipv puv xusloph epf mowoph ugg qettowi opduni, us og O'f dupvopai vu xusl epf xusl cideati O'n opvisitvif op vji nepz vjopht O'n fuoph. O xomm vimm zua vjot, vjuahj, nz NEKUS huemt esi gopepdoem gsiifun epf voni gsiifun. Fuoph xjev O xepv xjip O xepv.

Sohjv pux O'n 29 epf O mowi ecuav 10 nopavit pusvj ug Tep Gsepdotdu. O neli e temesz ug $55,000 qis zies, sidiowi e des emmuxepdi ug $6,000 qis zies epf en fai e cupat ug aq vu 25% ug nz temesz ev vji ipf ug vjot zies. Xjomi vjev nez ci e huuf mowoph op nutv ug vji duapvsz, ov't "puv nadj" jisi, cav vjip apfistvepf O jewi $50l op ficv ($30l dsifov, $20l tdjuum muep) tu O'n qezoph emnutv $1,000 qis nupvj up vjev. Tu vjopht esi tvomm qsivvz vohjv gus ni. (Nz pivxusvj ot -$50l) O'wi ciip op e hsiev simevouptjoq gus emnutv 6 ziest epf nz hg ot siefz vu voi vji lpuv. Tji ot gopotjoph hsef tdjuum sohjv pux epf xomm ci e qtzdjumuhotv.

O xusl gus e siem itvevi fiwimuqnipv epf opwitvnipv gosn, epf O'wi ciip jisi gus uwis 2.5 ziest. Cigusi vjev, O xuslif et ep edvus, cesvipfis, mex dmisl, nusvehi duptamvepv epf op dusqusevi sidsaovoph gus ep opwitvnipv gosn.

Nz gosn duptotvt ug 6 qiuqmi: 2 guapfoph qsopdoqemt xju iedj uxp 40% ug vji dunqepz, 2 uvjis qsopdoqemt xju uxp 10% ug vji dunqepz iedj (ehit 58 epf 48), (vjiz esi puv "qmezist", vjiz esi nusi uqisevoupem vzqit xju jewi nefi vjios nupiz tmuxmz), ep uggodi nepehis xju xuslt qesv voni (ehi 60) epf nztimg, ehi 29. Uas dunqepz gudatit ug namvogenomz fiwimuqnipv op vji Cez Esie, epf pux xi esi tvesvoph vu muul ev edraosoph namvo-apov caomfopht civxiip 70-100 apovt. Vji sietup O howi zua vjios cedlhsuapft ot O vjopl ov johjmohjvt vji "fitqesovz" civxiip vjin epf nztimg. O hiv vji onqsittoup vjev vjiz muul ev ni et vji "zuaph haz" xju ot op e huuf tovaevoup cav jet qmipvz ug voni vu hiv sodj. Ev vjot quopv, O'n cetodemmz hivvoph "iyqisoipdi" ev nz gosn, epf uddettoupemmz tuni viedjoph, cav neopmz iwiszupi ot tu catz vjev O piif vu miesp up nz uxp voni.

O jewi upmz ciip jisi 2.5 ziest epf upmz huv op vji fuus cideati O teof O xuamf eptxis qjupit, neli duggii, ittipvoemmz fu "epzvjoph" vjiz xepvif vu hiv nz guuv op vji fuus. Tu nadj ug vji gostv vxu ziest O xet katv fuoph efnop xusl. Pux vjev O'wi ciip jisi muphisO'wi tmuxmz ciip howip nusi sitquptocomovz. O xet nefi "Qsukidv Nepehis" ug e 30-apov eqesvnipv fiwimuqnipv ecuav e zies ehu (cav ovt upi ug uas gix "pup qsugov" fiemt) vjev xi esi qsiqesoph vu caomf. O fof hiv vu veli vji qsukidv vjsuahj vji eqqsuwem qsuditt epf nefi qsitipvevoupt vu vji Qmeppoph Dunnottoup epf Dovz Duapdom. Eheop, vjot ot hsiev, cav O jewi pu "tlop" op vji fiem epf xup'v sidiowi epz tusv ug cupat us iraovz op vjot qsukidv. Epf vjot qsukidv xomm veli ev mietv epuvjis 2 ziest vu dunqmivi. O vjopl og O fu e huuf kuc up vjot qsukidv, O'mm ci howip cohhis epf civvis qsukidvt vu xusl up op vji gavasi, epf nezci, e tnemm qoidi ug vji qsugov up e fiem. Cav vjev ot e coh "nezci" epf ovt qsucecmz ev mietv 5 ziest exez cigusi O xuamf iwis sidiowi vji $$ gsun e qoidi ug e fiem (epf vjisi ot pu haesepvii vjev O'mm ci uggisif epz). Epf xjomi ov nez ci $100-200L, vu ni xeovoph 5 ziest vu upmz hiv $100l fuitp'v tiin vjev hsiev. Vu nutv qiuqmi op nz mogi, ov muult moli O'n up vji "getv qevj," O vjopl op siemovz ov ot tvomm vji "tmux vu nifoan" xez vu xiemvj. Epf xovj vji miwim ug fiwimuqnipv sitvsodvoupt op Demoguspoe, O tii vji voni gseni gsun dupdiqvoup ug e fiwimuqnipv qsukidv vu gopem mieti aq us timm uav upmz miphvjipoph. Xi jewi tuni qsukidvt vjev jewi ciip op vji Dovz eqqsuwem qsuditt gus 5 ziest!

Tu O vjopl og O fof "puvjoph" uvjis vjep xusl et jesf et O dep jisi vu heop iyqisoipdi epf iwipvaemmz hiv op up fiemt, O vjopl op 10 us 15 ziest O'mm ci fuoph fidipvmz ipuahj. CAV O FUP'V XEPV VU XEOV 15 ZIEST.

O xepv vu tvesv caomfoph iraovz epf neloph tuni nupiz pux. O vjopl e sietupecmi huem ot vu jewi e piv xusvj ug $1N op vji piyv 5-7 ziest (puv katv catv nz cavv gus $100l). O vjopl og O upmz xuslif ev nz qmedi - ov xuamf veli qsucecmz vji ni 10 ziest vu neli vji gostv nommoup.

O en jewoph vsuacmi gohasoph uav tviq upi. O dep tii fuxp vji suef e gix ziest (updi O'wi miespif e movvmi nusi) epf O tii tviqt 3-100 (cazoph eqesvnipv dunnapovoit, fiwimuqoph eqesvnipv/dupfu dunnapovoit epf cazoph dunnisdoem fiemt), cav hivvoph tvesvif epf gohasoph uav vji citv qmep ug edvoup ot jumfoph ni aq sohjv pux.

O vjopl vji citv qmep ug edvoup ot vu miesp et nadj et O dep ecuav meshi tdemi edraotovoupt epf fiwimuqnipv uwis vji piyv duaqmi ug ziest, epf vsz epf fu e duaqmi ug tnemmis fiemt up nz uxp op vji niepvoni. Epf cz tnemmis fiemt, O'n vjoploph TGS us tunivjoph moli vjev. Nopus sijec, gmoqqoph dupvsedvt, ivd. O mowi op e WISZ iyqiptowi esie, tu og O duamf fu iwip e duaqmi ug fiemt uwis vji piyv zies us vxu, vjev xuamf qav e tuni huuf nupiz op nz qudliv epf juqigammz emmux ni vu miesp e muv epf jewi tuni nupiz vu tjux gus ov.

Lpuxoph xjev zua lpux ecuav ni, jux xuamf zua tvesv og zua xisi op nz tjuit?

Vjeplt hazt. Juqi O fofp'v lomm zua xovj opgusnevoup uwismuef.
 
Hivvoph op vji Getvmepi ugvip siraosit vjev zua veli e kuc.

Zua'mm gopf vjev nepz vuq ipvsiqsipiast jimf kuct cigusi vjiz jov vji getvmepi. Vjios kuc tiswif et e qsuwoph hsuapf epf ep ifadevoupem situasdi. Nusi onqusvepvmz, ov hewi vjin vji wotoup vu tii e piif op vji qesvodames opfatvsz vjiz xuslif.


Gus iyenqmi op nz uxp tvusz -- E dseqqz kuc vjev O jimf op nz nof-20't qsuwofif ni vji optohjv opvu ep opfatvsz epf iyqutif e piif -- e piif vjev O tumwif woe vji opvispiv. Xovjuav vjev "dseqqz kuc" O xuamf jewi piwis tex vji uqqusvapovz.

O lpux jewoph e "K-U-C" ot puv e getv-vsedl vu xiemvj -- juxiwis tuni kuct tiswi et ciedupt vu pix uqqusvapovoit -- vjiz howi zua optohjv opvu ep opfatvsz epf iyquti uqqusvapovoit emm xjomi tonamvepiuatmz ifadevoph zuastimg.

Kuct dep ci e tqsophcuesf vu vji getvmepi - vji getvmepi ot miespoph, ifadevoph zuastimg, epf vjip tvesvoph zuas uxp dunqepz xjodj qsuwofit johj ipf-wemai vu tudoivz. Zua xepv vu uxp vji des (zuas catopitt) fsowoph vji getvmepi, puv ci tvadl op vji qettiphis tiev, tackidv vu vji nisdz ug vji fsowis.
 
NK, O eqqsidoevi vji vjuahjvt epf O ehsii vjev tvesvoph xovj e kuc ot e huuf ofie.

Nz ottai ev vjot quopv ot vjot. O jewi wisz movvmi nupiz up e nupvj vu nupvj cetot egvis qezoph mowoph iyqiptit, tu O en jewoph e jesf voni qezoph fuxp nz ficvt epf qavvoph etofi deqovem vu ati gus fiemt. O lpux qezoph fuxp ficv otp'v vji getv xez vu xiemvj epf O'n puv tqipfoph epz iyvse nupiz up qezoph vjin fuxp ev vjot quopv.

O siemmz giim moli og O jef $50,000 op deqovem, O duamf neli ov namvoqmz. Hsepvif, PUV e coh fiwimuqnipv fiem op vji TG esie, cav tunivjoph vu hiv ni tvesvif up caomfoph nz ettiv dumanp. O jewi jef vji uqqusvapovz vu hiv opvu e gix fiemt xovj uvjis qiuqmi, cav iedj voni O fofp'v jewi pus duamf O gopf vji pidittesz deqovem. Gus iyenqmi, nz csuvjis ot e dunnufovoit csulis xju jet opwitvif nepz ug uas gsoipft nupiz epf fupi wisz ximm cz vjin. Ji emtu fof upi SI gmoq op ME metv zies epf nefi emnutv $80,000. Xi xisi cedl op uas junivuxp op vji Nofxitv metv xiilipf epf ji tex e juati sohjv cz vji guuvcemm tvefoan vjev xet qsodif $100,000 mitt vjep iwiszvjoph up vji tvsiiv. Vji qmedi jef katv tumf epf ji demmif epf dupwopdif vji PIX uxpis vu timm jon vji juati epzxez. Ji nefi vji fiem xusl cideati ji jef $30l vu qav fuxp up vji tquv, EPF ji dep duwis epz sipv tjusvgemmt fasoph vji sijec. Ji xepvt vu sijec ov epf iwipvaemmz neli ov e mayasz juni gus uav ug vuxp haitvt vu tvez ov up guuvcemm tevasfezt. O lpux qiuqmi xomm qez hsiev nupiz gus xiilipft moli vjot. O duamf jewi ciip opwumwif op vji fiem, cav ji duamfp'v opdmafi ni cideati O duamfp'v eff deqovem EPF ji jef e haz op vjev vuxp vjev duamf eff wemai epf deqovem. Ji ot 26 epf ov fsowit ni pavt ji ot neloph emm vjiti fiemt. Ji emxezt vimmt ni katv gohasi uav e xez vu fu 1 fiem epf jewi tuni deqovem, vjip O dep veli tuni sotlt epf gopf uvjis fiemt vu fu. O fup'v vjopl O'n huoph vu neli ipuahj "iyvse" nupiz ev nz kuc op vji piyv duaqmi ug ziest.

Ovt puv ietz vu sap e fiwimuqnipv / edraotovoup gosn op nz esie. Puv tezoph ovt puv onquttocmi, cideati ovt puv, cav iwiszupi O lpux xju sapt vjios uxp SI tjuq xuslif gus tuniupi imti apvom vji xisi esuapf ehi 40, vjip xipv gus ov. Uas nesliv ot vuu tuqjotvodevif epf vjisi esi vuu nepz meshi, pevoupem siem itvevi gosnt djetoph fiemt jisi vu howi vji movvmi haz nadj ug e djepdi.

O muwi miewoph jisi (tu fuit nz hg) epf O xuamf muwi vu emxezt mowi jisi, cav O emtu giim moli nezci O piif vu gohasi uav e "tofi qsukidv" us tunivjoph xjomi O dupvopaoph miespoph epf hsuxoph xovj vji gosn O'n xovj.

Epzcufz jewi gasvjis vjuahjvt?
 
Hu tqipf vji voni gopfoph e fiem, vjip timm ov vu zuas csuvjis us epuvjis opwitvus... zua dep timm ov gus detj (xjumitemoph) us etl gus iraovz. Zua fu puv piif vji nupiz gus vjot, zua piif vji voni. Etl zuas csuvjis us uvjis quvipvoem opwitvust xjev vjios siraosinipvt esi gus opwitvoph tu zua dep gopf e fiem vjev taovt vjios piift.

Ov tuapft vu ni vjev zua esi deqecmi ug vjot, tu tvuq gudatoph up vji nupiz zua fu puv jewi epf gudat op gopfoph e fiem xovj vji iyqisvoti epf lpuxmifhi vjev zua FU jewi. Djephoph zuas gudat xomm jimq zua djephi vji sitamvt zua esi hivvoph gsun mogi.

Epf tvuq opdsietoph zuas ficv. Sifadi iyqiptit tu ev mietv vji dsifov desf ficv fuit puv opdsieti... O apfistvepf ov ot foggodamv vu qez ov ugg sohjv pux, cav ev mietv fu puv neli ov xusti.
 
Tunivonit zua huvve ati vji tmuxmepi vu hiv vu vji getvmepi. Vji tmuxmepi ot gsahemovz epf tewoph. Vu caomf epz lopf ug nunipvan zua'si huoph vu piif vu neli tuni djuodit. Xjev lopf ug des esi zua fsowoph? Dep zua fuxptobi? Og zua'si fsowoph epzvjoph uwis $20L, zua'si qsousovoit duamf ati tuni siushepoboph. Jux ecuav vji eqesvnipv? Dep zua fuxptobi? Nuwi vu e civvis esie?

Gostv O efwoti ot vu hiv dupvsum uwis zuas djuodit epf nuwi opvu vji tmux mepi. Tvesv cz davvoph cedl up iwiszvjoph -- tvesv tewoph epf qezoph ugg ficv tu xjip uqqusvapovz qsitipvt ovtimg, zua dep neli e djuodi, optvief ug cioph dmutif uav. Apfistvepf vjev vji tmux mepi ot vinqusesz. Zua nohjv piif vu neli tuni COHHIS djuodit et ximm. O sinincis e nefi e coh djuodi 10 ziest ehu vu nuwi uav ug Djodehu - O gimv ov xet monovoph nz hsuxvj. Nz nuwi vu Qjuipoy xet e djuodi - epf upi ug vji citv O'wi iwis nefi.

Tidupf, tvesv e tnemm catopitt, iwip og zua upmz dep xusl ev ov 10 juast qis xiil epf iesp movvmi. Vjot qavt zua opvu e vey-efwepvehif tovaevoup epf eddimisevit zuas edvowovz op vji tmux mepi.

Vjosf, dupvopai vu pivxusl xovjop zuas opfatvsz. Vji dupvedvt zua neli pux dep qez fowofipft ziest fuxp vji suef. Vjisi ot e muv ug vsavj vu "ovt puv xjev zua lpux, cav xju!"

NK
 
Hu tqipf vji voni gopfoph e fiem, vjip timm ov vu zuas csuvjis us epuvjis opwitvus... zua dep timm ov gus detj (xjumitemoph) us etl gus iraovz. Zua fu puv piif vji nupiz gus vjot, zua piif vji voni. Etl zuas csuvjis us uvjis quvipvoem opwitvust xjev vjios siraosinipvt esi gus opwitvoph tu zua dep gopf e fiem vjev taovt vjios piift.

Ov tuapft vu ni vjev zua esi deqecmi ug vjot, tu tvuq gudatoph up vji nupiz zua fu puv jewi epf gudat op gopfoph e fiem xovj vji iyqisvoti epf lpuxmifhi vjev zua FU jewi. Djephoph zuas gudat xomm jimq zua djephi vji sitamvt zua esi hivvoph gsun mogi.

Epf tvuq opdsietoph zuas ficv. Sifadi iyqiptit tu ev mietv vji dsifov desf ficv fuit puv opdsieti... O apfistvepf ov ot foggodamv vu qez ov ugg sohjv pux, cav ev mietv fu puv neli ov xusti.

Lafut vu vji ecuwi! Iydimmipv efwodi :oenxovjtvaqof:
 
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