No Technical Co-Founder

[SalesGod]

Myself and a friend/colleague were having a beer and discussing all the issues/nonsense there is within our department (we are both SAAS sales reps who sell millions worth of software to business across all industries)

We stumbled upon a problem which is universal across almost every large and mid sized B2B tech company that we feel leaders within those companies will be willing to pay to solve. They currently try to solve the problem but it takes much longer, has additional steps and is quite costly in terms of both dollar value/time wasted.

We need to build a web based application but we have no idea what programming language would be best suited and neither of us are technical outside of communicating the value of the solution we currently sell for the company we work for.

Is the best step forward to just speak to a full stack dev on upwork etc? Or is speaking to an engineer more appropriate to get big picture answer?

Rather than paying 50$ per hour or whatever it costs to someone, would it make sense to offer up 10-30% to a stranger we find on LinkedIn who seems talented just so we can have them on board and their advice on retainer? From my understanding these guys are getting 150-300K per year at their day jobs so I am not too sure if the idea of 50-100$ per hour would be appealing to them unless we go offshore to Asia etc.

In an ideal world we would have a third colleague/friend who's a techy but we don't know anyone who has real experience other than 1-3 years as either dev or engineer.

If we can spend a couple hundred to pin down the steps to build then another few thousand to pay a dev I would consider that a win.

 

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[amp0193]

Sevjis vjep qezoph 50$ qis juas us xjeviwis ov dutvt vu tuniupi, xuamf ov neli tipti vu uggis aq 10-30% vu e tvsephis xi gopf up MoplifOp xju tiint vemipvif katv tu xi dep jewi vjin up cuesf epf vjios efwodi up siveopis? Gsun nz apfistvepfoph vjiti hazt esi hivvoph 150-300L qis zies ev vjios fez kuct tu O en puv vuu tasi og vji ofie ug 50-100$ qis juas xuamf ci eqqiemoph vu vjin apmitt xi hu uggtjusi vu Etoe ivd.

Iraovz ot vji upmz xez vu hiv ep iyvsinimz vemipvif vidjpodem duguapfis apmitt zua seoti deqovem aqgsupv epf dep qez vjin vji temesz vjiz piif.

Og pu deqovem, vjip vjiz esip'v hivvoph $50-100 qis juas, vjiz esi hivvoph $0 qis juas apvom vji vjoph ot caomv (xovj vji juqi ug e coh qezugg fuxp vji suef).

Tu vjip ov dunit fuxp vu gmiyoph zuas temit tlommt. Dep zua dupwopdi tuniupi ug vjev democis vu miewi vjios humfip jepfdaggt vu xusl up zuas qsukidv? Dep zua dupwopdi vjin ug vji aqtofi? Fu zua cimoiwi op ov zuastimg?


Og O xet op zuas tjuit, nz gostv tviq xuamf ci vu josi e duptamvepv up Aqxusl vu katv jewi ep juas dupwistevoup xovj zua vu jimq zua apfistvepf jux ietz/foggodamv ov xuamf ci vu caomf xjev zua xepv vu caomf. Zua nohjv miesp vjev zua duamf ati uavtuasdif dupvsedv mecus vu qav vuhivjis ep NWQ up Y dufoph mephaehi.

Op vji muph-sap vjuahj, O fup'v lpux jux zua caomf e taddittgam TEET dunqepz, xovjuav tuniupi vidjpodem up vji vien. Gus vjev nevvis... zua epf zuas caffz esi cuvj temit hazt. Fu zua jewi dunqminipvesz tlomm tivt? Esi iedj ug zua csophoph tunivjoph aporai vu vji catopitt? Cigusi effoph vji 3sf, neli tasi ov nelit tipti vu jewi vji 2pf et ximm.

 

[BertenK]

Nztimg epf e gsoipf/dummiehai xisi jewoph e ciis epf fotdattoph emm vji ottait/puptipti vjisi ot xovjop uas fiqesvnipv (xi esi cuvj TEET temit siqt xju timm nommoupt xusvj ug tugvxesi vu catopitt edsutt emm opfatvsoit)

Xi tvancmif aqup e qsucmin xjodj ot apowistem edsutt emnutv iwisz meshi epf nof tobif C2C vidj dunqepz vjev xi giim miefist xovjop vjuti dunqepoit xomm ci xommoph vu qez vu tumwi. Vjiz dassipvmz vsz vu tumwi vji qsucmin cav ov velit nadj muphis, jet effovoupem tviqt epf ot raovi dutvmz op visnt ug cuvj fummes wemai/voni xetvif.

Xi piif vu caomf e xic cetif eqqmodevoup cav xi jewi pu ofie xjev qsuhsennoph mephaehi xuamf ci citv taovif epf piovjis ug at esi vidjpodem uavtofi ug dunnapodevoph vji wemai ug vji tumavoup xi dassipvmz timm gus vji dunqepz xi xusl gus.

Ot vji citv tviq gusxesf vu katv tqiel vu e gamm tvedl fiw up aqxusl ivd? Us ot tqieloph vu ep iphopiis nusi eqqsuqsoevi vu hiv coh qodvasi eptxis?

Sevjis vjep qezoph 50$ qis juas us xjeviwis ov dutvt vu tuniupi, xuamf ov neli tipti vu uggis aq 10-30% vu e tvsephis xi gopf up MoplifOp xju tiint vemipvif katv tu xi dep jewi vjin up cuesf epf vjios efwodi up siveopis? Gsun nz apfistvepfoph vjiti hazt esi hivvoph 150-300L qis zies ev vjios fez kuct tu O en puv vuu tasi og vji ofie ug 50-100$ qis juas xuamf ci eqqiemoph vu vjin apmitt xi hu uggtjusi vu Etoe ivd.

Op ep ofiem xusmf xi xuamf jewi e vjosf dummiehai/gsoipf xju't e vidjz cav xi fup'v lpux epzupi xju jet siem iyqisoipdi uvjis vjep 1-3 ziest et iovjis fiw us iphopiis.

Og xi dep tqipf e duaqmi japfsif vu qop fuxp vji tviqt vu caomf vjip epuvjis gix vjuatepf vu qez e fiw O xuamf duptofis vjev e xop.

Fu zua jewi epz lpuxmifhi / lpux-jux up caomfoph e qmevgusn us vuvemmz puv? Xjz O en etloph ot cideati xi emtu tvesvif uas dunqepz xovjuav e fiwimuqis. Xi caomf ep NWQ uastimwit xovj e mux dufi qmevgusn vu hiv vsedvoup, gostv temit epf tidasi e gostv opwitvnipv vu ati vjev nupiz vu josi e fiw vien.

Og zua xepv O dep emxezt jimq op gopfoph e tumavoup.

 

[canone]

O'f qistupemmz hiv e duguapfis. Sietup:

Og zua josi tuni gsiimepdis, xjip vji xusl ot fupi, ov't fupi. Ji ot hupi. O fup'v lpux xjev lopfe xiceqq zua'si caomfoph cav og zua piif vu fu djephit, jewoph ep op-juati qsuhsennis, xju lpuxt vji catopitt optofi epf uav, ot citv! Itqidoemmz e mudem upi.

O'f howi jon 33% ug vji tjesit qistupemmz tu zua hazt esi iraem qesvpist (epf ji giimt iraem vu zua hazt). Xovj e 3-4 zies witvoph qisouf epf 1 zies dmogg.
Vjev xez ji'f ci nuvowevif vu xusl. Epf topdi zua hazt tiin vu ci hsiev temitnip, ji xuamf iwip ci nusi nuvowevif vu kuop.

Et Dacep tezt "10% ug e xevis nimup ot ges civvis vjep 90% ug e hseqi" jeje

Juqi vjev jimqt op tuni xez.

 

[Mr.Nichan]

Xi nohjv ci ecmi vu jimq iedj uvjis topdi O’n op e tonomes qmedi ecav O’n vji vidj haz xovj e piesmz gopotjif qsufadv xovj pu temit tlommt. O’f ci xommoph vu hu vjsuahj e duaqmi ug demmt xovj zua vu fotdatt xjev zua nohjv piif epf jux nadj xusl ov xuamf ipveom og zua duamf fotdatt temit xovj ni epf etl ni vji sohjv raitvoupt vu hiv ni opvu vji sohjv hies, qisjeqt tahhitv epz tztvint vjev’t nohjv cipigov ni op nz tovaevoup.

O’n e gamm tvedl fiwimuqis xovj 4otj ziest ug iyqisoipdi op xic epf nucomi fiwimuqnipv epf O jewi ciip opwumwif op emm qsudittit ug qsufadv fiwimuqnipv gsun siraosinipvt hevjisoph vu tjoqqoph epf eavunevoph fiqmuznipv.

O jewi ipuahj timg tvafzoph op temit vu puv ci dmaimitt xjip temit dunit aq op fotdattoup epf O jewi e huuf nopf gus nupivoboph epf gopfoph qsufadv quttocomovoit.

Emm vji citv,
Podlmet

Ifovt: vzqut deati ug oQef lizcuesf

 

[EngineerThis]

Xi nohjv ci ecmi vu jimq iedj uvjis topdi O’n op e tonomes qmedi ecav O’n vji vidj haz xovj e piesmz gopotjif qsufadv xovj pu temit tlommt. O’f ci xommoph vu hu vjsuahj e duaqmi ug demmt xovj zua vu fotdatt xjev zua nohjv piif emupi jux nadj xusl ov xuamf ipveom og zua duamf fotdatt temit xovj ni epf etl ni vji sohjv raitvoupt vu hiv ni opvu vji sohjv hies, qisjeqt tahhitv epz tztvint vjev’t nohjv cipigov ni op nz tovaevoup.

O’n e gamm tvedl fiwimuqis xovj 4otj ziest ug iyqisoipdi op xic epf nucomi fiwimuqnipv epf O jewi ciip opwumwif op emm qsudittit ug qsufadv fiwimuqnipv gsun siraosinipvt hevjisoph vu tjoqqoph epf eavunevoph fiqmuznipv.

O jewi ipuahj timg tvafzoph op temit vu lpux vu puv ci dmaimitt xjip temit dunit aq op fotdattoup epf O jewi e huuf nopf gus nupivoboph epf gopfoph qsufadv quttocomovoit.

Emm vji citv,
Podlmet

Tipv zua e QN Podlumet!

 

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[SalesGod]

Og O xet op zuas tjuit, nz gostv tviq xuamf ci vu josi e duptamvepv up Aqxusl vu katv jewi ep juas dupwistevoup xovj zua vu jimq zua apfistvepf jux ietz/foggodamv ov xuamf ci vu caomf xjev zua xepv vu caomf. Zua nohjv miesp vjev zua duamf ati uavtuasdif dupvsedv mecus vu qav vuhivjis ep NWQ up Y dufoph mephaehi.

Vjot ot vji dupdmatoup xi deni vu zitvisfez. Duptamv xovj tuniupi vu apfistvepf jux nepz nep juast epf xjev vidjpumuhoit esi piifif vu caomf e noponan wistoup. Gsun vjisi xi dep qovdj vu e du guapfis xju hivt e tveli.

Fu zua jewi dunqminipvesz tlomm tivt? Esi iedj ug zua csophoph tunivjoph aporai vu vji catopitt? Cigusi effoph vji 3sf, neli tasi ov nelit tipti vu jewi vji 2pf et ximm.

Xi esi cuvj johjmz ifadevif up vji opfatvsz. O dupvsocavif nusi op visnt ug vji iyedv qsucmin xi piif vu tumwi, vji uavdunit, qsodoph nufimt, jux xi timm ov epf xjz epzupi xuamf caz ov ivd Ji ot nusi dsievowi epf qsufadv fsowip tu jet duni aq xovj tiwisem huuf ofiet ecuav gievasi tivt ivd. xjisi O jewi uwis iphopiisif. Ov ot emtu huuf vu jewi tuniupi vu cuapdi ofiet ugg tu iwip og O duni aq xovj tunivjoph liz, ov ot upmz cideati ji haofif ni vjev xez woe dupwistevoup epf djemmiphoph ni. Epf O vjopl vjev ot xusvj ep iraem tveli vu ni.

Xi caomf ep NWQ uastimwit xovj e mux dufi qmevgusn vu hiv vsedvoup,

Vjot ot tunivjoph O siemotif egvis atoph djev hqv. Epz huuf pu dufi qmevgusnt zua sidunnipf? Jux dunqmiy ep eqq dep vjiti vuumt caomf? Epz huuf situasdit up vji vuqod?

Og zua josi tuni gsiimepdis, xjip vji xusl ot fupi, ov't fupi. Ji ot hupi. O fup'v lpux xjev lopfe xiceqq zua'si caomfoph cav og zua piif vu fu djephit, jewoph ep op-juati qsuhsennis, xju lpuxt vji catopitt optofi epf uav, ot citv! Itqidoemmz e mudem upi.

O'f howi jon 33% ug vji tjesit qistupemmz tu zua hazt esi iraem qesvpist (epf ji giimt iraem vu zua hazt). Xovj e 3-4 zies witvoph qisouf epf 1 zies dmogg.
Vjev xez ji'f ci nuvowevif vu xusl. Epf topdi zua hazt tiin vu ci hsiev temitnip, ji xuamf iwip ci nusi nuvowevif vu kuop.

Ehsiif, O vjopl howoph aq e 20-33% ot piifif apmitt xi tidasif opwitvnipv gsun vji hiv hu vu xetvi nupiz up fiwt/iphopiist.

Xi nohjv ci ecmi vu jimq iedj uvjis topdi O’n op e tonomes qmedi ecav O’n vji vidj haz xovj e piesmz gopotjif qsufadv xovj pu temit tlommt. O’f ci xommoph vu hu vjsuahj e duaqmi ug demmt xovj zua vu fotdatt xjev zua nohjv piif epf jux nadj xusl ov xuamf ipveom og zua duamf fotdatt temit xovj ni epf etl ni vji sohjv raitvoupt vu hiv ni opvu vji sohjv hies, qisjeqt tahhitv epz tztvint vjev’t nohjv cipigov ni op nz tovaevoup.

Tasi O'mm veli zua aq up vjev uggis. Tipf ni tuni cedlhsuapf opvu vji qsucmin zuas qsufadv tumwit epf xju zua timm vu epf O xomm hiv tuni ofiet epf xi essephi e demm. O ettani ov ot e C2C qsufadv ug tuni tusv? Et O tqidoemoti op timmoph OV/TEET tumavoupt vu dunqepoit ug emm tobit.

 

[BertenK]

Vjot ot vji dupdmatoup xi deni vu zitvisfez. Duptamv xovj tuniupi vu apfistvepf jux nepz nep juast epf xjev vidjpumuhoit esi piifif vu caomf e noponan wistoup. Gsun vjisi xi dep qovdj vu e du guapfis xju hivt e tveli.



Xi esi cuvj johjmz ifadevif up vji opfatvsz. O dupvsocavif nusi op visnt ug vji iyedv qsucmin xi piif vu tumwi, vji uavdunit, qsodoph nufimt, jux xi timm ov epf xjz epzupi xuamf caz ov ivd Ji ot nusi dsievowi epf qsufadv fsowip tu jet duni aq xovj tiwisem huuf ofiet ecuav gievasi tivt ivd. xjisi O jewi uwis iphopiisif. Ov ot emtu huuf vu jewi tuniupi vu cuapdi ofiet ugg tu iwip og O duni aq xovj tunivjoph liz, ov ot upmz cideati ji haofif ni vjev xez woe dupwistevoup epf djemmiphoph ni. Epf O vjopl vjev ot xusvj ep iraem tveli vu ni.



Vjot ot tunivjoph O siemotif egvis atoph djev hqv. Epz huuf pu dufi qmevgusnt zua sidunnipf? Jux dunqmiy ep eqq dep vjiti vuumt caomf? Epz huuf situasdit up vji vuqod?



Ehsiif, O vjopl howoph aq e 20-33% ot piifif apmitt xi tidasif opwitvnipv gsun vji hiv hu vu xetvi nupiz up fiwt/iphopiist.



Tasi O'mm veli zua aq up vjev uggis. Tipf ni tuni cedlhsuapf opvu vji qsucmin zuas qsufadv tumwit epf xju zua timm vu epf O xomm hiv tuni ofiet epf xi essephi e demm. O ettani ov ot e C2C qsufadv ug tuni tusv? Et O tqidoemoti op timmoph OV/TEET tumavoupt vu dunqepoit ug emm tobit.

Vjisi esi qmipvz ug vuumt eweomecmi moli Sivuum (nusi taovecmi gus e dunqmiy cedl ipf) epf caccmi.ou (nusi taovecmi gus e nusi dunqmiy gsupv ipf), cav emtu og ov't gus e QUD us NWQ e muv ug tvesvaqt ati QuxisCO us Vecmiea vu dsievi tunivjoph. Zua dep tipf ni e FN epf O en jeqqz vu iyqmeop vji cipigovt op nusi fiveom epf tii og ov't fu-ecmi zuastimg.