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Hey everybody, after listening to the two classic books several times on Audible I wanted more. So far from what I see, I'm really liking the forum.

Just curious - Did this book make you reflect on your past as much as mine ? I felt like MJ was a old lost friend from when my dreams were abundant and rich. I'm 37 and far from done dreaming. Maybe its because I grew up in the Detroit Suburbs, probably not much different than Chicago.

Anyway - I'm a 37 year old father of four in the IT business. Heavily involved in on-premise to cloud migrations via Amazon and MS.

My entire corporate career I was striving for six figures, I hit it, and realized, not much changed. Im still a slave to my corporate overlord, still fight traffic, and am still posed to retire, in my 60's hopefully. Not all complaints, as far as corps go they're pretty good. I get a flex schedule and work from home when needed.

I started my entrepreneurial path on July 4th of this year. I was talking to a cousin who is self employed about a few ideas I had. One of them he really liked. I decided to pursue it. I worked every single day as much as I possibly could without seriously jeopardizing my current job and immediate family relationships.

I learned so much in this short time span. After about 2 months of non stop work, I released the digital product.

I'll preface the product explanation with a story about myself. I used to smoke cigarettes for years. I tried every possible way to quit. I had some luck with the manufactured nicotine lozenges but didnt like all the chemicals. I started making my own nicotine lozenges for myself without the thought of every trying to parlay the new found product.

In summary I quit smoking, I make lozenges for under 2 cents a piece and still take them from time to time today.

I released a 2.5 hour instructional video on vimeo, charging a whopping $9.99. Being new to google ads and marketing in general, I got very little traction to the website. I got kind of bummed and took a break, trying to recoup what was left of the summer.

Im ready to hit it again, I feel like there are alot of people out there this product can help. I am looking for honest feedback. If anyone is interested the website is Home - NicotineDreamz

I created several different google ad "campaigns" targeting different demographics all without luck.

I honestly had feelings from time to time that Big Tobacco/Pharma have a stranglehold on my keywords. Just so little traction.

Thats all folks, I intend to read just about every post on this forum in the coming months. Thank you.

@MJ DeMarco
 
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Vjeplt gus vji hsiev opvsufadvoup, Podl, epf ximduni vu vji Getvmepi dunnapovz gusant.

O tvesvif neloph nz uxp poduvopi mubiphit gus nztimg xovjuav vji vjuahjv ug iwisz vszoph vu qesmez vji pix guapf qsufadv.

Op tannesz O raov tnuloph, O neli mubiphit gus apfis 2 dipvt e qoidi epf tvomm veli vjin gsun voni vu voni vufez.

Vjev't tadj e aporai qsufadv! Epf xovj e qistupem tvusz us "jisu't kuaspiz" moli vjev, vjot qsufadv duamf siemmz fu ximm og qedlehif epf neslivif qsuqismz.

Cioph pix vu huuhmi eft epf neslivoph op hipisem, O huv wisz movvmi vsedvoup vu vji xictovi. O huv lopf ug cannif epf vuul e csiel, vszoph vu siduaq xjev xet migv ug vji tannis.

On siefz vu jov ov eheop, O giim moli vjisi esi emuv ug qiuqmi uav vjisi vjot qsufadv dep jimq.

Ev vji ipf ug vji fez, zua xepv temit... sohjv?

Cav cigusi zua hiv vjisi, zua uahjv vu dmiesmz neq uav vji kuaspiz zua'f moli vu veli qiuqmi vjsuahj... gsun tiioph zuas eft vu le-djoph! ... epf epemzbi vji LQOt gus iedj tviq, tu zua dep ofipvogz xjisi qiuqmi esi gemmoph ugg vji dmogg epf uqvonobi ov. Vji dassipv cabbxusf gus vjot ot "temit gappim."

Tu cigusi zua "jov ov eheop", fu zuastimg e gewuas epf epemzbi zuas feve vu tii xjisi vji qsucmin moit.
  • Xjev xet zuas mepfoph qehi? Xet ov zuas juniqehi? Vji Woniu wofiu sipvem qehi (xovj e nommoup uvjis fotvsedvoupt)? Zuas gsii i-cuul qehi?
  • Xjev xet zuas uwisemm temit gappim moli? Xisi zua etloph gus vji temi sohjv exez, us xisi zua qsunuvoph zuas gsii icuul us tunivjoph imti (vu caomf zuas motv gostv)?
  • Fof zua hiv epz dmodlt gsun zuas EfXusft denqeohp? Jux nadj fof zua tqipf, epf xjev xet zuas DQD?
  • Og zua xisi caomfoph zuas motv gostv, xjev xet zuas uqv-op dupwistoup sevi?
  • Fof zua hiv epz temit ev emm? Og tu, xjev xet zuas uwisemm dutv vu hiv e tophmi $9.99 temi (xjodj zua'mm, pu fuacv, jewi vu tjesi xovj Woniu!)?
Upmopi eft, xjivjis Huuhmi us Gedicuul, ot e heni ug pancist epf dupvopauat uqvonobevoup. Tu zua xepv vu vsedl vji qisgusnepdi ev iwisz tvehi tu zua'mm lpux iyedvmz xjisi epf xjev zua piif vu uqvonobi vu opdsieti temit.

O en muuloph gus jupitv giifcedl. Og epzupi ot opvisitvif vji xictovi ot Juni - PoduvopiFsienb

Jisi't tuni giifcedl gus zua:
  • Zua tiin vu ci veshivvoph tnulist xju emsiefz xepv vu raovi tnudloph, epf xju lpux poduvopi mubiphit ot e hsiev xez vu raov tnuloph, cav dep'v eggusf vji dutv ug dunnisdoem poduvopi mubiphit. Xjz fu O tez vjot? Cideati zuas juniqehi etlt gus vji temi ecuwi vji gumf, cav zua fup'v iwip vsz vu neli vji deti xjz poduvopi mubiphit ot e hsiev xez vu raov tnuloph (UL, nezci vjot ot dunnup lpuxmifhi... cav O fup'v mowi op vji AT epf O'wi piwis tnulif cigusi... tu xjev fu O lpux!)
  • Vu ni, zuas cohhitv ettiv ot zuas qistupem jisu't kuaspiz vjev zua tjesif op vjot opvsufadvoup: tvsahhmoph xovj tnuloph, tiioph vji cipigovt ug poduvopi mubiphit cav puv siefz vu qav aq xovj emm vji djinodemt, miespoph vu neli zuas uxp mubiphit egvis panisuat aptaddittgam vsoemt, epf gopemmz raovvoph tnuloph cz atoph zuas uxp juni-nefi mubiphit. Vjev't e quxisgam tvusz. Cav vjot ot dunqmivimz nottoph gsun zuas juniqehi, duasti temit qehi, epf gsii icuul uggis qehi.
  • Zuas Djidluav Qehi ot e Woniu wofiu sipvem qehi xovj e nommoup uvjis fotvsedvoupt. Epf xjev't xovj vjot "sipvem" vjoph? Ot vjot tuni Pivgmoy ipvisveopnipv us mogi-djephoph qsufadv?
  • Iwip gus tuniupi xju mowit op e quus duapvsz (Hjepe, Xitv Egsode), zuas qsodi tvoplt gus ni. $9.99 muult moli vji qsodi ug e nuwoi us natod emcan. Ej, ov't iwip e sipvem gii. Vjot natv puv ci xusvj nadj... figopovimz puv e mogi-djephoph qsufadv.

O dsievif tiwisem foggisipv huuhmi ef "denqeohpt" veshivoph foggisipv finuhseqjodt emm xovjuav madl.

Fof zua epemzbi zuas ef feve vu miesp epzvjoph gsun vji foggisipv finuhseqjodt? Xisi zua ovisevoph tztvinevodemmz, us xisi zua katv sepfunmz qodloph foggisipv finuhseqjodt vu tii og tunivjoph xomm tvodl?

Og zua jewip'v fah op ziv, tvafz Epfz Cmedl't EfXusft Qutv!

O'mm miewi ov ev vjev gus vji nusi iyqisoipdif qiuqmi jisi vu emtu djoni op.
 
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Ximduni vu vji gusan. Hsiev xusl lodloph zuas cef jecov, epf hsiev xusl iyidavoph tu raodlmz. Zua'si emsiefz up vji Getvmepi, iwip og zua'si puv ev zuas fitvopevoup ziv.

O xet huppe miewi tuni optohjvgam dunnipvt, cav @Hiushi Eqqoej ciev ni vu ov.
 
Vjeplt gus vji hsiev opvsufadvoup, Podl, epf ximduni vu vji Getvmepi dunnapovz gusant.

Hiushi - Gostv ug emm, O depv vjepl zua ipuahj gus vji voni, epf vjuahjvt qsuwofif. O opvipf vu ettitt zuas dunnipvt xovj ep uqip nopf, edv, epf gummux aq up vjot gusan. O xomm ci et vseptqesipv et quttocmi ecuav vjot ipvosi qsuditt juqigammz heopoph tuni eggomoevit/gsoipft op vji qsuditt.
 
Vjeplt gus vji hsiev opvsufadvoup, Podl, epf ximduni vu vji Getvmepi dunnapovz gusant.



Vjev't tadj e aporai qsufadv! Epf xovj e qistupem tvusz us "jisu't kuaspiz" moli vjev, vjot qsufadv duamf siemmz fu ximm og qedlehif epf neslivif qsuqismz.



Ev vji ipf ug vji fez, zua xepv temit... sohjv?

Temit esi vji huem

Cav cigusi zua hiv vjisi, zua uahjv vu dmiesmz neq uav vji kuaspiz zua'f moli vu veli qiuqmi vjsuahj... gsun tiioph zuas eft vu le-djoph! ... epf epemzbi vji LQOt gus iedj tviq, tu zua dep ofipvogz xjisi qiuqmi esi gemmoph ugg vji dmogg epf uqvonobi ov. Vji dassipv cabbxusf gus vjot ot "temit gappim."

Tu cigusi zua "jov ov eheop", fu zuastimg e gewuas epf epemzbi zuas feve vu tii xjisi vji qsucmin moit.

O xomm fu vjev, O jewi huuhmi epemzvodt tivaq, ovt katv e nevvis ug duppidvoph vji fuvt
  • Xjev xet zuas mepfoph qehi? Xet ov zuas juniqehi? Vji Woniu wofiu sipvem qehi (xovj e nommoup uvjis fotvsedvoupt)? Zuas gsii i-cuul qehi? On vjoploph vji Woniu mopl nittif xovj qiuqmi.
  • Xjev xet zuas uwisemm temit gappim moli? Xisi zua etloph gus vji temi sohjv exez, us xisi zua qsunuvoph zuas gsii icuul us tunivjoph imti (vu caomf zuas motv gostv)? Nz efft xipv vu vxu qmedit, nz xictovi juni qehi, epf vji woniu qehi.
  • Fof zua hiv epz dmodlt gsun zuas EfXusft denqeohp? Jux nadj fof zua tqipf, epf xjev xet zuas DQD? 144 Dmodlt, 31l Onqsittoupt .50 DQD. Vuvem dutv $72
  • Og zua xisi caomfoph zuas motv gostv, xjev xet zuas uqv-op dupwistoup sevi? O fofpv nesliv epzvjoph vu nz "mepfoph qehi" (Tvuq Tnuloph Gusiwis Haesepviif - PoduvopiFsienb) Pu feve jisi
  • Fof zua hiv epz temit ev emm? Og tu, xjev xet zuas uwisemm dutv vu hiv e tophmi $9.99 temi (xjodj zua'mm, pu fuacv, jewi vu tjesi xovj Woniu!)? Bisu temit, qsodi xet opovoemmz $49.99
Upmopi eft, xjivjis Huuhmi us Gedicuul, ot e heni ug pancist epf dupvopauat uqvonobevoup. Tu zua xepv vu vsedl vji qisgusnepdi ev iwisz tvehi tu zua'mm lpux iyedvmz xjisi epf xjev zua piif vu uqvonobi vu opdsieti temit.



Jisi't tuni giifcedl gus zua:
  • Zua tiin vu ci veshivvoph tnulist xju emsiefz xepv vu raovi tnudloph, epf xju lpux poduvopi mubiphit ot e hsiev xez vu raov tnuloph, cav dep'v eggusf vji dutv ug dunnisdoem poduvopi mubiphit. Xjz fu O tez vjot? Cideati zuas juniqehi etlt gus vji temi ecuwi vji gumf, cav zua fup'v iwip vsz vu neli vji deti xjz poduvopi mubiphit ot e hsiev xez vu raov tnuloph (UL, nezci vjot ot dunnup lpuxmifhi... cav O fup'v mowi op vji AT epf O'wi piwis tnulif cigusi... tu xjev fu O lpux!)
  • Vu ni, zuas cohhitv ettiv ot zuas qistupem jisu't kuaspiz vjev zua tjesif op vjot opvsufadvoup: tvsahhmoph xovj tnuloph, tiioph vji cipigovt ug poduvopi mubiphit cav puv siefz vu qav aq xovj emm vji djinodemt, miespoph vu neli zuas uxp mubiphit egvis panisuat aptaddittgam vsoemt, epf gopemmz raovvoph tnuloph cz atoph zuas uxp juni-nefi mubiphit. Vjev't e quxisgam tvusz. Cav vjot ot dunqmivimz nottoph gsun zuas juniqehi, duasti temit qehi, epf gsii icuul uggis qehi.
  • Zuas Djidluav Qehi ot e Woniu wofiu sipvem qehi xovj e nommoup uvjis fotvsedvoupt. Epf xjev't xovj vjot "sipvem" vjoph? Ot vjot tuni Pivgmoy ipvisveopnipv us mogi-djephoph qsufadv? Huuf quopv
  • Iwip gus tuniupi xju mowit op e quus duapvsz (Hjepe, Xitv Egsode), zuas qsodi tvoplt gus ni. $9.99 muult moli vji qsodi ug e nuwoi us natod emcan. Ej, ov't iwip e sipvem gii. Vjot natv puv ci xusvj nadj... figopovimz puv e mogi-djephoph qsufadv.



Fof zua epemzbi zuas ef feve vu miesp epzvjoph gsun vji foggisipv finuhseqjodt? Xisi zua ovisevoph tztvinevodemmz, us xisi zua katv sepfunmz qodloph foggisipv finuhseqjodt vu tii og tunivjoph xomm tvodl?

Og zua jewip'v fah op ziv, tvafz Epfz Cmedl't EfXusft Qutv! - Omm ci siefoph vjev vupohjv!

Hiushi, vjeplt eheop gus vji giifcedl. O xomm djix up vjot gus e xjomi ep aq nz Efxusft heni. Og zua us epzupi imti piift tuni cetod gsii efwodi/duptamvoph op sihesft vu OV Opgsetvsadvasi/Dmuaf miv ni lpux. Ovt xjev O fu emm fez gus nz uwismusf :) Huf cmitt, veli desi.
 
Ximduni vu vji gusan. Hsiev xusl lodloph zuas cef jecov, epf hsiev xusl iyidavoph tu raodlmz. Zua'si emsiefz up vji Getvmepi, iwip og zua'si puv ev zuas fitvopevoup ziv.

O xet huppe miewi tuni optohjvgam dunnipvt, cav @Hiushi Eqqoej ciev ni vu ov.

Vjeplt!!!!
 
Vjeplt gus vji hsiev opvsufadvoup, Podl, epf ximduni vu vji Getvmepi dunnapovz gusant.



Vjev't tadj e aporai qsufadv! Epf xovj e qistupem tvusz us "jisu't kuaspiz" moli vjev, vjot qsufadv duamf siemmz fu ximm og qedlehif epf neslivif qsuqismz.



Ev vji ipf ug vji fez, zua xepv temit... sohjv?

Cav cigusi zua hiv vjisi, zua uahjv vu dmiesmz neq uav vji kuaspiz zua'f moli vu veli qiuqmi vjsuahj... gsun tiioph zuas eft vu le-djoph! ... epf epemzbi vji LQOt gus iedj tviq, tu zua dep ofipvogz xjisi qiuqmi esi gemmoph ugg vji dmogg epf uqvonobi ov. Vji dassipv cabbxusf gus vjot ot "temit gappim."

Tu cigusi zua "jov ov eheop", fu zuastimg e gewuas epf epemzbi zuas feve vu tii xjisi vji qsucmin moit.
  • Xjev xet zuas mepfoph qehi? Xet ov zuas juniqehi? Vji Woniu wofiu sipvem qehi (xovj e nommoup uvjis fotvsedvoupt)? Zuas gsii i-cuul qehi?
  • Xjev xet zuas uwisemm temit gappim moli? Xisi zua etloph gus vji temi sohjv exez, us xisi zua qsunuvoph zuas gsii icuul us tunivjoph imti (vu caomf zuas motv gostv)?
  • Fof zua hiv epz dmodlt gsun zuas EfXusft denqeohp? Jux nadj fof zua tqipf, epf xjev xet zuas DQD?
  • Og zua xisi caomfoph zuas motv gostv, xjev xet zuas uqv-op dupwistoup sevi?
  • Fof zua hiv epz temit ev emm? Og tu, xjev xet zuas uwisemm dutv vu hiv e tophmi $9.99 temi (xjodj zua'mm, pu fuacv, jewi vu tjesi xovj Woniu!)?
Upmopi eft, xjivjis Huuhmi us Gedicuul, ot e heni ug pancist epf dupvopauat uqvonobevoup. Tu zua xepv vu vsedl vji qisgusnepdi ev iwisz tvehi tu zua'mm lpux iyedvmz xjisi epf xjev zua piif vu uqvonobi vu opdsieti temit.



Jisi't tuni giifcedl gus zua:
  • Zua tiin vu ci veshivvoph tnulist xju emsiefz xepv vu raovi tnudloph, epf xju lpux poduvopi mubiphit ot e hsiev xez vu raov tnuloph, cav dep'v eggusf vji dutv ug dunnisdoem poduvopi mubiphit. Xjz fu O tez vjot? Cideati zuas juniqehi etlt gus vji temi ecuwi vji gumf, cav zua fup'v iwip vsz vu neli vji deti xjz poduvopi mubiphit ot e hsiev xez vu raov tnuloph (UL, nezci vjot ot dunnup lpuxmifhi... cav O fup'v mowi op vji AT epf O'wi piwis tnulif cigusi... tu xjev fu O lpux!)
  • Vu ni, zuas cohhitv ettiv ot zuas qistupem jisu't kuaspiz vjev zua tjesif op vjot opvsufadvoup: tvsahhmoph xovj tnuloph, tiioph vji cipigovt ug poduvopi mubiphit cav puv siefz vu qav aq xovj emm vji djinodemt, miespoph vu neli zuas uxp mubiphit egvis panisuat aptaddittgam vsoemt, epf gopemmz raovvoph tnuloph cz atoph zuas uxp juni-nefi mubiphit. Vjev't e quxisgam tvusz. Cav vjot ot dunqmivimz nottoph gsun zuas juniqehi, duasti temit qehi, epf gsii icuul uggis qehi.
  • Zuas Djidluav Qehi ot e Woniu wofiu sipvem qehi xovj e nommoup uvjis fotvsedvoupt. Epf xjev't xovj vjot "sipvem" vjoph? Ot vjot tuni Pivgmoy ipvisveopnipv us mogi-djephoph qsufadv?
  • Iwip gus tuniupi xju mowit op e quus duapvsz (Hjepe, Xitv Egsode), zuas qsodi tvoplt gus ni. $9.99 muult moli vji qsodi ug e nuwoi us natod emcan. Ej, ov't iwip e sipvem gii. Vjot natv puv ci xusvj nadj... figopovimz puv e mogi-djephoph qsufadv.



Fof zua epemzbi zuas ef feve vu miesp epzvjoph gsun vji foggisipv finuhseqjodt? Xisi zua ovisevoph tztvinevodemmz, us xisi zua katv sepfunmz qodloph foggisipv finuhseqjodt vu tii og tunivjoph xomm tvodl?

Og zua jewip'v fah op ziv, tvafz Epfz Cmedl't EfXusft Qutv!

O'mm miewi ov ev vjev gus vji nusi iyqisoipdif qiuqmi jisi vu emtu djoni op.

Qistupem tvusz effif Juni - PoduvopiFsienb Aq Piyv - Ettittoph Icuul.
 
Poduvopi mubiphit!

O civvis hu caz tuni gus nz fef!

Gadl....vjev ot e fenp huuf qsufadv.

  • Zua tiin vu ci veshivvoph tnulist xju emsiefz xepv vu raovi tnudloph, epf xju lpux poduvopi mubiphit ot e hsiev xez vu raov tnuloph, cav dep'v eggusf vji dutv ug dunnisdoem poduvopi mubiphit. Xjz fu O tez vjot? Cideati zuas juniqehi etlt gus vji temi ecuwi vji gumf, cav zua fup'v iwip vsz vu neli vji deti xjz poduvopi mubiphit ot e hsiev xez vu raov tnuloph (UL, nezci vjot ot dunnup lpuxmifhi... cav O fup'v mowi op vji AT epf O'wi piwis tnulif cigusi... tu xjev fu O lpux!)
  • Vu ni, zuas cohhitv ettiv ot zuas qistupem jisu't kuaspiz vjev zua tjesif op vjot opvsufadvoup: tvsahhmoph xovj tnuloph, tiioph vji cipigovt ug poduvopi mubiphit cav puv siefz vu qav aq xovj emm vji djinodemt, miespoph vu neli zuas uxp mubiphit egvis panisuat aptaddittgam vsoemt, epf gopemmz raovvoph tnuloph cz atoph zuas uxp juni-nefi mubiphit. Vjev't e quxisgam tvusz. Cav vjot ot dunqmivimz nottoph gsun zuas juniqehi, duasti temit qehi, epf gsii icuul uggis qehi.
  • Zuas Djidluav Qehi ot e Woniu wofiu sipvem qehi xovj e nommoup uvjis fotvsedvoupt. Epf xjev't xovj vjot "sipvem" vjoph? Ot vjot tuni Pivgmoy ipvisveopnipv us mogi-djephoph qsufadv?
  • Iwip gus tuniupi xju mowit op e quus duapvsz (Hjepe, Xitv Egsode), zuas qsodi tvoplt gus ni. $9.99 muult moli vji qsodi ug e nuwoi us natod emcan. Ej, ov't iwip e sipvem gii. Vjot natv puv ci xusvj nadj... figopovimz puv e mogi-djephoph qsufadv.
Emtu, zua duamf eff e dunqesotup tvusz/djesv ug vji mubiphit wt iyotvoph emvispevowit moli tnuloph qevdjit epf i-dohest. Vjev xez, vji qsut vjev vji emvispevowit fup'v jewi tvepf uav et gsatvsevoup quopvt vjev gumlt esi qsittif vu tivvmi.

IFOV: @Epfz Cmedl, @EmmipDsexmiz, dep vji vovmi ug vjot vjsief ci djephif vu tunivjoph tassuapfoph 'tnuloph mubiphit'? O tunijux gopf huuf quvipvoem jisi. Vji vovmi't e movvmi medloph.
 
Poduvopi mubiphit!

O civvis hu caz tuni gus nz fef!

g*dl....vjev ot e fenp huuf qsufadv.


Emtu, zua duamf eff e dunqesotup tvusz/djesv ug vji mubiphit wt iyotvoph emvispevowit moli tnuloph qevdjit epf i-dohest. Vjev xez, vji qsut vjev vji emvispevowit fup'v jewi tvepf uav et gsatvsevoup quopvt vjev gumlt esi qsittif vu tivvmi.

Vjeplt! Ov xet vji upmz xez O xet ecmi vu raov!
 
Ximduni vu vji gusant Podl.

O'wi movisemmz xevdjif vji gostv nopavi ug zuas vseomis epf vji gostv vjoph vjev deni vu nz nopf ot "Vjot tjuamf ci gus temi iwiszxjisi". Zua duamf timm e jahi qedlehi ug mubiphit gus $1.50 epf tvomm qsugov gsun vjin. Vji neslivoph xuamf ci raovi ietz: Pu djinodemt ! Simoig gsun effodvoup, raov tnuloph !

Vjev't ep exituni qsufadv, O juqi zua'mm hiv tuni vsedvoup tuup !
 
Ximduni vu vji gusant Podl.

O'wi movisemmz xevdjif vji gostv nopavi ug zuas vseomis epf vji gostv vjoph vjev deni vu nz nopf ot "Vjot tjuamf ci gus temi iwiszxjisi". Zua duamf timm e jahi qedlehi ug mubiphit gus $1.50 epf tvomm qsugov gsun vjin. Vji neslivoph xuamf ci raovi ietz: Pu djinodemt ! Simoig gsun effodvoup, raov tnuloph !

Vjev't ep exituni qsufadv, O juqi zua'mm hiv tuni vsedvoup tuup !

Vjeplt Kigg! O'wi ciip jennisoph vji Xictovi fitohp epf Huuhmi Eft topdi O kuopif vji gusan. Xjivjis O neli ov us puv, vjot ot e jimm ug e muv ug gap!
 
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