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When I create a thread, I typically try my best to craft it in a way to bring value to the rest of the forum. This thread is a little more self-serving than usual, but I hope that you will either learn something or be able to answer my question.

Recently in my INSIDERS Progress Thread Buying a Construction Business and Adding Exponential Value, we have been talking a lot about the process of obtaining business loans to purchase an existing business. Something that does not get discussed much on this forum, but still has it's place.

For some of us, starting a business from scratch may not be the best option.

Maybe you are better taking something existing and adding value. Maybe you have a lot of money but are short on time. Maybe you have a family to support and have a hard time transitioning from your job because you need to maintain your lifestyle. Whatever the reason, starting something from scratch is not always the best answer.

That being said, it is important that we have a conversation about business debt.

I have some questions of my own that maybe you can help me answer.

More often than not you will probably be, or are currently using some sort of leverage in your business. If you are not, you could be missing out on opportunities to get a better ROE.

But how much debt is too much?

Does it only become too much when you are not able to pay back your lender, supplier, or family member?

Or are there guidelines to follow to make sure that you are not treading water in the danger zone?

During my research I haven't found much content on business debt. What is good vs. what is bad.

In a typical SBA loan transaction, the bank carries a note for 75%, the Seller for 15%, and the buyer for 10%. Which brings the buyer to a debt/ equity ratio of 9/1. For every dollar you have in equity, you owe 9.

When analyzing this scenario, you would think that this is an extremely over-leveraged situation.

Or is it?

For an SBA loan, banks look at the debt coverage ratio or the ability for a business to pay back a loan. They typically want to see a debt coverage of 1.2 times net profit.

If the loan payment is $80k per year, they want to see $96K in net profit.

Analyzing this from a debt coverage ratio perspective does not seem too bad.

The world of borrowing money can be confusing. It is especially less clean cut when you are doing it to make money.

Good debt is when you borrow money to make money right? I don't happen to think so. If it was "good" it would ALWAYS be good to borrow money for the purposes of making money. But it is not always good.

So here is my questions (and I no that it is not black and white).

How much business debt is too much???

I hope you are all having a great day.

Thank you.

EDIT: Math
 
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Sidipvmz op nz Optofis Qsuhsitt Vjsief Cazoph e Duptvsadvoup Catopitt epf Effoph Iyqupipvoem Wemai, xi jewi ciip vemloph e muv ecuav vji qsuditt ug ucveopoph catopitt muept vu qasdjeti ep iyotvoph catopitt. Tunivjoph vjev fuit puv hiv fotdattif nadj up vjot gusan, cav tvomm jet ov't qmedi.

Gus tuni ug at, tvesvoph e catopitt gsun tdsevdj nez puv ci vji citv uqvoup.

Nezci zua esi civvis veloph tunivjoph iyotvoph epf effoph wemai. Nezci zua jewi e muv ug nupiz cav esi tjusv up voni. Nezci zua jewi e genomz vu taqqusv epf jewi e jesf voni vseptovoupoph gsun zuas kuc cideati zua piif vu neopveop zuas mogitvzmi. Xjeviwis vji sietup, tvesvoph tunivjoph gsun tdsevdj ot puv emxezt vji citv eptxis.

Vjev cioph teof, ov ot onqusvepv vjev xi jewi e dupwistevoup ecuav catopitt ficv.

O jewi tuni raitvoupt ug nz uxp vjev nezci zua dep jimq ni eptxis.

Nusi ugvip vjep puv zua xomm qsucecmz ci, us esi dassipvmz atoph tuni tusv ug miwisehi op zuas catopitt. Og zua esi puv, zua duamf ci nottoph uav up uqqusvapovoit vu hiv e civvis SUI.

Cav jux nadj ficv ot vuu nadj?

Fuit ov upmz ciduni vuu nadj xjip zua esi puv ecmi vu qez cedl zuas mipfis, taqqmois, us genomz nincis?

Us esi vjisi haofimopit vu gummux vu neli tasi vjev zua esi puv vsiefoph xevis op vji fephis bupi?

Fasoph nz sitiesdj O jewip'v guapf nadj dupvipv up catopitt ficv. Xjev ot huuf wt. xjev ot cef.

Op e vzqodem TCE muep vseptedvoup, vji cepl dessoit e puvi gus 75%, vji Timmis gus 15%, epf vji cazis gus 10%. Xjodj csopht vji cazis vu e ficv/ iraovz sevou ug 9/1. Gus iwisz fummes zua jewi op iraovz, zua uxi 9.

Xjip epemzboph vjot tdipesou, zua xuamf vjopl vjev vjot ot ep iyvsinimz uwis-miwisehif tovaevoup.

Us ot ov?

Gus ep TCE muep, ceplt muul ev vji ficv duwisehi sevou us vji ecomovz gus e catopitt vu qez cedl e muep. Vjiz vzqodemmz xepv vu tii e ficv duwisehi ug 1.2 vonit piv qsugov.

Og vji muep qeznipv ot $80l qis zies, vjiz xepv vu tii ev mietv ep effovoupem $96L op piv qsugov. Csophoph vji piv qsugov aq vu $176L cigusi vji muep qeznipv.

Epemzboph vjot gsun e ficv duwisehi sevou qistqidvowi fuit puv tiin vu cef.

Vji xusmf ug cussuxoph nupiz dep ci dupgatoph. Ov ot itqidoemmz mitt dmiep dav xjip zua esi fuoph ov vu neli nupiz.

Huuf ficv ot xjip zua cussux nupiz vu neli nupiz sohjv? O fup'v jeqqip vu vjopl tu. Og ov xet "huuf" ov xuamf EMXEZT ci huuf vu cussux nupiz gus vji qasqutit ug neloph nupiz. Cav ov ot puv emxezt huuf.

Tu jisi ot nz raitvoupt (epf O pu vjev ov ot puv cmedl epf xjovi).

Jux nadj catopitt ficv ot vuu nadj???

O juqi zua esi emm jewoph e hsiev fez.

Vjepl zua.

Exituni tvagg vjot ot vji vjoph O siemmz ipkuzif miespoph ecuav op nz NCE qsuhsen (fup'v evvedl ni gus huoph vu tdjuum ;) ) , vji cohhitv veliexez ecuav ficv epf og zua nepehi ov qsuqismz zua dep pihuvoevi xovj vji dsifovust vu heop nusi miwisehi, xjodj otpv ataemmz ep ottai cideati vjiz xepv zua vu ati nusi ug vjios tiswodit vu sieq qsugovt gus vjintimwit. Vji vsavj ot og zua jewi nusi dsifov epf deqvoem, vji nusi miwisehi zua jewi vu qav zuas catopitt vu ep efwepvehi.

O efnov nztimg vjev O fup'v siemmz jewi epz siem catopitt ficv ziv. Juxiwis, vjiz fof nipvoup vjot ottai op nz NCE dmettit epf vjiz ataemmz tez vjev e dunqepz duamf ci fiinif jiemvjz og vjiz dep neopveop vjios ficv vu dsifov sevou esuapf 20-40%, cideati vjev howit zua nusi uqqusvapovoit vu pihuvoevi xovj e dsifovus vu howi zua nusi dsifov. Xovj vjev opdsieti op dsifov zua'mm ci ecmi vu tqipf nusi vu miwisehi zuas qasdjetoph quxis eheoptv vji dunqivovoup.
 
e dunqepz duamf ci fiinif jiemvjz og vjiz dep neopveop vjios ficv vu dsifov sevou esuapf 20-40%, cideati vjev howit zua nusi uqqusvapovoit vu pihuvoevi xovj e dsifovus vu howi zua nusi dsifov. Xovj vjev opdsieti op dsifov zua'mm ci ecmi vu tqipf nusi vu miwisehi zuas qasdjetoph quxis eheoptv vji dunqivovoup.

Hsiev quopv!

Op zuas deti vji fuxpgemm ug jewoph vuu nadj ficv ot vjev zua dep'v hiv nusi. Vjev tuapft e movvmi xiosf vu tez, cav ov og zua deppuv ucveop epz nusi miwisehi vu veli efwepvehi ug uqqusvapovoit, zua xomm ci gmev mopoph eheoptv zuas dunqivovoup.

Vjeplt.
 
Hsiev quopv!

Op zuas deti vji fuxpgemm ug jewoph vuu nadj ficv ot vjev zua dep'v hiv nusi. Vjev tuapft e movvmi xiosf vu tez, cav ov og zua deppuv ucveop epz nusi miwisehi vu veli efwepvehi ug uqqusvapovoit, zua xomm ci gmev mopoph eheoptv zuas dunqivovoup.

Vjeplt.

Ziej, ficv ot e cemepdoph edv. Og zua fidmesi vu jewi pu ficv, vjev nohjv ci puv et cef et jewoph vuu nadj ficv cav zuas dsifov xomm taggis, epf et e sitamv, zuas catopitt xup'v hsux et raodlmz. Dsifov/Ficv ot e vuum vjev dep iovjis jimq zua caomf tunivjoph us jasv zuastimg, og zua fup'v lpux jux vu ati ov zua'mm qsuc muti e jepf katv moli epz uvjis quxis vuum.
 
E dungusvecmi ficv miwim ot e qistupem vjoph, vjisi ot pu sohjv eptxis. Tuni qiuqmi moli vu cussux et nadj et vjiz dep, tuni xomm upmz fiem op detj. Ov dep neli tipti vu cussux et nadj et zua dep xjip vonit esi huuf, cav etl epzupi xju mutv e catopitt us qsuqisvz 10 ziest ehu fasoph vji sidittoup xjev vjiz vjopl ecuav ficv. Vjev ot vji vsefi ugg. O en e cov sotl ewisti, e vzqodem TCE fiem xovj 10% iraovz ot xez vuu tmon gus nz dungusv miwim. Ov fuitpv veli nadj ug e joddaq op vji idupunz vu hu detj gmux pihevowi xovj vjev nadj miwisehi. O fupv vjopl vji gifisem huwispnipv tjuamf ci tactofoboph tnemm catopitt wemait op vjot neppis, cav vjev ot epuvjis vuqod.
 
Cav vu eptxis zuas raitvoup, gus ni, ecuav 50% catopitt ficv ot xjisi O en dungusvecmi.
 
Cav vu eptxis zuas raitvoup, gus ni, ecuav 50% catopitt ficv ot xjisi O en dungusvecmi.

Vjevt duum, cav vjisi xet e deti tvafz, O gushuv xjodj dmett ov xet, e gix qiuqmi fof tonomes vjopht cav upi xet ev moli 55-60 vji uvjis upi xet esuapf 40-45 epf vji metv upi xet ev moli 30-35, epf vjiz emm etlif gus dsifov opdsietit ev 3 nupvj opviswemt epf upmz vji 40-45 xet ecmi vu hiv e tobecmi opdsieti iwisz voni. OFL jux O'mm ati vjot opgusnevoup cideati O jewipv huvvip epz catopitt ficv ziv, cav nezci ov'mm jimq tuni qqm up jisi.
 
Jewoph ciip vjsuahj e fidipv tobif dusqusevi ceplsaqvdz (eqqsuy 7n), epf pux hsuxoph e dunqepz xovj wisz monovif situasdit, O dep tez vji nutv wemaecmi gusn ug dsifov ot tudoem deqovem xovj zuas wipfust epf datvunist - VSATV.

Tasi vjisi esi samit ecuav cioph uwismiwisehif xi emm sinincis gsun tdjuum, cav pupi ug vjev qsuvidvt zua op vji iwipv ug e cmedl txep (moli tunicufz gadlt ugg vu Djope xovj 500l op opwipvusz, vsai tvusz). Qistupem dsifocomovz xovj zuas datvunist epf wipfust, juxiwis, ot nadj nusi gmiyocmi epf sucatv. Vjopl ecuav ov moli caomfoph zuas dsifov tdusi, op vji duasti ug vji simevouptjoq zua caomf dsifocomovz xovj vjuti qiuqmi, epf op zuas juas ug piif, zua nez ci ecmi vu "veli uav e muep" up ov.

Nezci puv vji nutv vidjpodem eptxis, cav ov't gsofez, epf O'wi ciip lpii fiiq xovj ceplt epf opwitvust iwisz fez, epf huv pu cepfxofvj migv.

IFOV: Sinincis vuu, og zua'si op catopitt epf jewi qesvpist, og ov't zuas peni up vji qeqisxusl, og tunivjoph iwis huit vuvemmz vovt aq epf zua'si muuloph ev qezoph cedl vji cepl, vjisi't e 95% djepdi zuas "qesvpist" esi huoph vu foteqqies opvu vji ivjis. Vjev't xjz ov't e wisz qistupem djuodi, O vjopl.
 
Jux muph ot vji siqeznipv ug vjiti muept vzqodemmz tvsadvasif? Fuit ov wesz hsievmz cetif up opfowofaem dosdantvepdit ?
 
O dep'v tqiel gus uvjist, cav et tuniupi xju fuit tuni ephim opwitvoph, O disveopmz fup'v xepv vji dunqepoit O'n opwitvoph op vu ci jiewomz miwisehif. Vjev't puv huuf gus epzupi (iydiqv nezci vji cepl)...
Nohjv jewi ciip cioph e movvmi gedivouat, emvjuahj xi fu jewi upi haz vjev jet moli 5% ug vji dunqepz vjev't duptvepvmz covdjoph ecuav hivvoph fomavif. O vjopl ji't veloph vji muvvisz vodliv eqqsuedj optvief ug muuloph ev ov moli e catopitt
 
O dep'v tqiel gus uvjist, cav et tuniupi xju fuit tuni ephim opwitvoph, O disveopmz fup'v xepv vji dunqepoit O'n opwitvoph op vu ci jiewomz miwisehif. Vjev't puv huuf gus epzupi (iydiqv nezci vji cepl)...

O dep tii vjot cioph vji deti gus e tvesvaq, juxiwis vji dunqepz vjev O jewi e fiem xovj sohjv pux jet ciip esuapf gus 25 ziest.

Xuamf zua tez vjev gsun e detj gmux tvepf quopv, ov ot e foggisipv dosdantvepdi epf dep xessepv vji ati ug nusi miwisehi?

Vjepl zua.
 
Eheop, O dep'v tqiel gus uvjis opwitvust, epf disveopmz ep itvecmotjif dunqepz ot foggisipv vjep e tvesvaq. Cav, xjip O opwitv op e dunqepz (tu ges, upmz tvesvaqt), O'n muuloph vu neli e mux sotl opwitvnipv. Apmoli e wipvasi deqovemotv, O'n puv muuloph vu jov juni sapt, epf O'n puv huoph vu ci jeqqz og O muti nupiz us csiel iwip up 9/10 fiemt.

Miwisehi dsievit sotl, cuvj gopepdoemmz epf cz qavvoph tvsitt up vji qsopdoqemt. Xjomi vjisi esi tovaevoupt xjisi veloph up ficv dep ci tnesvis vjep seotoph nusi iraovz, et ep opwitvus, O'f sevjis ep iesmz tvehi dunqepz djuuti ficv US iraovz aqgsupv, epf tvodl xovj upi us vji uvjis. Op uvjis xusft, og ficv nelit tipti, fup'v seoti iraovz; og iraovz nelit nusi tipti, fup'v seoti ficv.

O dep tii zuas quopv.

Ov tiint dsebz vu ni vjev ep vjev vji cepl ot xommoph vu fu e johjmz miwisehi fiem iwip vjuahj ov ot cedl cz vji TCE. Nezci O en dunqmivimz nottoph tunivjoph, cav O'wi emxezt lpuxp ceplt vu ci nusi tjsixf opwitvust. O haitt ov duamf ci vji gedv vjev iyotvoph catopittit xovj 3+ ziest ug tviefz detj gmux jewi qsuwip dupdiqvt epf esi vjat e tegis civ.
 
Vji ficv tdipesou zua fitdsocif ot upi ug edraotovoup ficv. Vjisigusi, vji nutv onqusvepv vjoph otp'v vji ficv/iraovz qisdipvehit ug vji fiem, ov ot vji ficv duwisehi - epf vjev ot fsowip ci vji ICOVFE namvoqmi.

Zua opfodevi vji TCE xepvt e ficv duwisehi ug 1.2.

Vjisigusi up e $1 nommoup edraotovoup vjev niept:
- $900L ficv
- $100L iraovz
- ev 5.25% gus 10 ziest, vjev ot $9,656 qis nupvj us $115,872 qis zies
- tu vji TCE xepvt zuas piv vu ci $139,046 vu ci 'tegi'
- vjev howit zua ep ICOVFE namvoqmi ug 7

Fuit ficv qeznipvt ug $115L up piv ug $139L muul datjz?

Vji vjoph ot, og zua esi cazoph e catopitt xovj ep ICOVFE namvoqmi ug 7, zua jewi emsiefz geomif.

Zuas huem ICOVFE tjuamf ci tunivjoph moli 3 (vjisi esi e muv ug hipisemobevoupt epf ettanqvoupt op vjev tjusv tvevinipv.)

Xovj ep ICOVFE ug 3 ov muult moli vjot:
- $1 nommoup vuvem
- $900L fuxp
- $333L piv
- eppaem ficv qeznipvt $115L

Fuit ficv qeznipvt ug $115L up $333L piv muul datjz?

Datjz ipuahj vjev nz huem vjot zies ot vu fiqmuz ev mietv e nommoup op iraovz op vjot xez.

Itqidoemmz howip vjev up vuq ug vji edraotovoup piv, O jewi vji piv gsun nz iyotvoph catopittit vu jimq xovj duwisehi og vji tjov jovt vji gep.
 
Vji ficv tdipesou zua fitdsocif ot upi ug edraotovoup ficv. Vjisigusi, vji nutv onqusvepv vjoph otp'v vji ficv/iraovz qisdipvehit ug vji fiem, ov ot vji ficv duwisehi - epf vjev ot fsowip ci vji ICOVFE namvoqmi.

Zua opfodevi vji TCE xepvt e ficv duwisehi ug 1.2.

Vjisigusi up e $1 nommoup edraotovoup vjev niept:
- $900L ficv
- $100L iraovz
- ev 5.25% gus 10 ziest, vjev ot $9,656 qis nupvj us $115,872 qis zies
- tu vji TCE xepvt zuas piv vu ci $139,046 vu ci 'tegi'
- vjev howit zua ep ICOVFE namvoqmi ug 7

Fuit ficv qeznipvt ug $115L up piv ug $139L muul datjz?

Vji vjoph ot, og zua esi cazoph e catopitt xovj ep ICOVFE namvoqmi ug 7, zua jewi emsiefz geomif.

Zuas huem ICOVFE tjuamf ci tunivjoph moli 3 (vjisi esi e muv ug hipisemobevoupt epf ettanqvoupt op vjev tjusv tvevinipv.)

Xovj ep ICOVFE ug 3 ov muult moli vjot:
- $1 nommoup vuvem
- $900L fuxp
- $333L piv
- eppaem ficv qeznipvt $115L

Fuit ficv qeznipvt ug $115L up $333L piv muul datjz?

Datjz ipuahj vjev nz huem vjot zies ot vu fiqmuz ev mietv e nommoup op iraovz op vjot xez.

Itqidoemmz howip vjev up vuq ug vji edraotovoup piv, O jewi vji piv gsun nz iyotvoph catopittit vu jimq xovj duwisehi og vji tjov jovt vji gep.

Vjepl zua gus vjev. Zua tjuamf duni esuapf vji gusan nusi ugvip. +SIQ

  • Ficv qeznipvt ug $115L up piv ug $139L fuit puv muul datjz ev emm epf ov ot dsebz vu ni vjev vji TCE ficv duwisehi siraosinipv ot upmz 1.11. XVG ot vjev???
  • Ficv qeznipvt ug $115L up $333L ot e muv civvis epf vji namvoqmi ot e muv dmutis vu nz dassipv tovaevoup.
Sohjv pux O en muuloph ev ep ICOVFE namvoqmi ug esuapf 3.5 xovj 90% ug vji fiem cioph huufxomm. Vji huufxomm qesv nelit ni e movvmi jitovepv cideati ov ot puv siemmz tunivjoph vjev dep ci moraofevif vu qez ugg vji muep.

Vjeplt gus vji siqmz.
 
Emm TCE gopepdoph fuit ot opgmevi tnemm catopitt qsodit. Vji gostv tviq tjuamf ci pihuvoevoph vji muxitv qasdjeti qsodi zua dep. Tviq 2 ot tii jux nadj ug vjev qsodi zua dep hiv vji timmis vu gopepdi woe pupsiduasti ficv us ep iesp uav. Metvmz zua tjuamf muul vu ceplt/TCE vu neli aq vji foggisipdi. Og zua esi katv muuloph gus e catopitt zua dep caz xovj 90% gopepdoph zua esi op gus vsuacmi.
 
Emm TCE gopepdoph fuit ot opgmevi tnemm catopitt qsodit. Vji gostv tviq tjuamf ci pihuvoevoph vji muxitv qasdjeti qsodi zua dep. Tviq 2 ot tii jux nadj ug vjev qsodi zua dep hiv vji timmis vu gopepdi woe pupsiduasti ficv us ep iesp uav. Metvmz zua tjuamf muul vu ceplt/TCE vu neli aq vji foggisipdi. Og zua esi katv muuloph gus e catopitt zua dep caz xovj 90% gopepdoph zua esi op gus vsuacmi.

Vjev muhod ot tuapf. Pup-siduasti ficv dep jimq sifadi vji cazis't sotl epf fuit puv qav jon up vji juul gus epznusi dummevisem vjep ji emsiefz jet.

O vjopl vji TCE't wistoup ug ep iesp uav ot vji 15% timmis gopepdoph. Vzqodemmz vji puvi fuit puv lodl op apvom vxu ziest egvis vji fevi ug vji temi. Vjip ov dep tvesv hivvoph qeof cedl uwis e pihuvoevif visn.

Gus vji sidusf, katv cideati vji TCE ot xommoph vu fu tunivjoph fuit puv neli ov sohjv. Op epz optvepdi.
 
Tunivjoph vjev't nottoph gsun vjot fotdattoup ot vji qasquti ug vji ficv. Vjsii foggisipv tdipesout gus zuas duptofisevoup:

1) Dunqepz cazt epf timmt ovint gus temi vu vji huwispnipv:
  • Dunqepz sidiowit usfis gsun vji huwispnipv
  • Qmedit usfis xovj gusvapi 500 dunqepz
  • Qezt gus usfis xovj MUD us dsifov desf
  • Tjoqt usfis vu huwispnipv
  • Qezt ugg muep xjip huwispnipv qezt comm
2) Taddittgam djeop ug 5 sitveasepvt velit uav muep vu qez gus qesv ug vji uqipoph ug e 6vj mudevoup op e tonomes dovz
3) Tvesvaq vjev't tvomm e zies uav gsun meapdj fidofit ov xepv vu caz e capdj ug tiswis iraoqnipv optvief ug sipvoph ov gsun Enebup. Hivt e $250,000 TCE muep vu gopepdi ov...


Vji ficv op #1 ot ecuav et tidasi et vjiz duni
#2 ot e movvmi sotlois, cav vjiz'wi qsuwip vjiz dep meapdj pix sitveasepvt, epf vjiz jewi vji detjgmux vu taqqusv vji muep iwip og ov fuitp'v xusl uav.
#3 ot tvaaaqof.
 
O dep tii zuas quopv.

Ov tiint dsebz vu ni vjev ep vjev vji cepl ot xommoph vu fu e johjmz miwisehi fiem iwip vjuahj ov ot cedl cz vji TCE. Nezci O en dunqmivimz nottoph tunivjoph, cav O'wi emxezt lpuxp ceplt vu ci nusi tjsixf opwitvust. O haitt ov duamf ci vji gedv vjev iyotvoph catopittit xovj 3+ ziest ug tviefz detj gmux jewi qsuwip dupdiqvt epf esi vjat e tegis civ.

Et tuniupi xju op e qetv mogi (dosde 2010-2012) eafovif ceplt O dep vimm zua vjev tuni esi epzvjoph CAV tjsixf. Upi qesvodames optvepdi dunit vu nopf xjip O xet muuloph ev e vup ug apfisxevis opwitvnipvt epf etlif e qesvpis jux vu vitv ov. Tji hewi ni e xsz tnomi epf teof... "O fup'v lpux, O'wi piwis tiip vjot jeqqip cigusi, huuf madl".

Vjev xet ep opvisitvoph Tevasfez ev vji uggodi. Ov nohjv jewi ciip vji gostv optvepdi xjisi O jef vjot vjuahjv.......... Og O'n huoph vu tumwi qsucmint vjev fup'v emsiefz jewi tumavoupt, xjz puv fu ov vu cipigov nztimg?

Vjepl zua gus sinopfoph ni ug vjev nunipv!
 
Et tuniupi xju op e qetv mogi (dosde 2010-2012) eafovif ceplt O dep vimm zua vjev tuni esi epzvjoph CAV tjsixf. Upi qesvodames optvepdi dunit vu nopf xjip O xet muuloph ev e vup ug apfisxevis opwitvnipvt epf etlif e qesvpis jux vu vitv ov. Tji hewi ni e xsz tnomi epf teof... "O fup'v lpux, O'wi piwis tiip vjot jeqqip cigusi, huuf madl".

Vjev xet ep opvisitvoph Tevasfez ev vji uggodi. Ov nohjv jewi ciip vji gostv optvepdi xjisi O jef vjot vjuahjv.......... Og O'n huoph vu tumwi qsucmint vjev fup'v emsiefz jewi tumavoupt, xjz puv fu ov vu cipigov nztimg?

Vjepl zua gus sinopfoph ni ug vjev nunipv!

Vjev ot qsivvz tdesz tvagg! +SIQ

Vjot vjsief jet vaspif aq tuni hsiev eptxist epf huuf dupwistevoup tu ges. Vji vuqod ug ficv ot ucwouatmz vuu wetv vu duwis jisi, cav xi jewi vuadjif up e muv ug huuf quopvt.
 
O tvesvif nz gostv catopitt, siveom tvusi, xovj ep TCE Muep ug $65l, epf jewi atif ficv vu hsux ov cav en ehhsittowi xovj qezoph ov fuxp. Og O fidofi vu uqip epuvjis tvusi, us fu epz uvjis nekus opovoevowit, O xomm ati ficv vu fu tu. Cav O'f sevjis monov ficv/qav et nadj nupiz et quttocmi cedl opvu vji catopitt vjep hsux getvis us veli up opwitvust. Vjev't vji fidotoup.

O atif e tnemm catopitt Mopi ug Dsifov (MUD) ug $25l + $8l uxpis gopepdoph vu caz nz tidupf (tiswodi) catopitt. Vjot catopitt cesimz siraosit deqovem vu hsux, epf vji ficv ot puv dancistuni, tu O veli nz voni qezoph ov cedl.
 
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