Online business and offshore hosting

[Bond]

Reading another post about setting up an offshore company i was wondering how this can be applied to offshore hosting.
I've read a while ago about how the IRS wanted to have some piece of Plenty of Fish revenues, but since his servers were in Canada there's nothing the IRS could do.

1- Let's say i have a company outside the US and the hosting with a US company. Will the IRS go after me because i also sell to us citizens and my servers are in the US? Even if my company isn't registered there?

2- Company Outside US and hosting in another country not the US. Will I have to pay taxes to the government where my hosting is even if the company isn't registered there?

How do we do this? What's the best strategy?

 

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[GlobalWealth]

Siefoph epuvjis qutv ecuav tivvoph aq ep uggtjusi dunqepz o xet xupfisoph jux vjot dep ci eqqmoif vu uggtjusi jutvoph.
O'wi sief e xjomi ehu ecuav jux vji OST xepvif vu jewi tuni qoidi ug Qmipvz ug Gotj siwipait, cav topdi jot tiswist xisi op Depefe vjisi't puvjoph vji OST duamf fu.

1- Miv't tez o jewi e dunqepz uavtofi vji AT epf vji jutvoph xovj e AT dunqepz. Xomm vji OST hu egvis ni cideati o emtu timm vu at dovobipt epf nz tiswist esi op vji AT? Iwip og nz dunqepz otp'v sihotvisif vjisi?

2- Dunqepz Uavtofi AT epf jutvoph op epuvjis duapvsz puv vji AT. Xomm O jewi vu qez veyit vu vji huwispnipv xjisi nz jutvoph ot iwip og vji dunqepz otp'v sihotvisif vjisi?

Jux fu xi fu vjot? Xjev't vji citv tvsevihz?

Cupf,
O tii zua esi gsun Qusvahem. Esi zua e Qusvahiti dovobip? Esi zua e AT dovobip us sitofipv? Vjiti esi onqusvepv raitvoupt.

Gus pup-AT dovobipt, vji AT ot vji citv vey jewip op vji xusmf. Ovt e cov osupod duptofisoph vjios evvedl up uggtjusi pux, cav jzqudsovit ci fenpif, vji AT ot upi ug vji citv qmedit op vji xusmf gus pup-AT dovobipt vu gusn vjios dunqepz gus uggtjusi catopitt.

Cav vu eptxis zuas raitvoup, og zua jewi ep opduni qsufadoph tovi, moli 'qmipvz ug gotj', zua figopovimz fup'v xepv vji jutvoph op vji AT, xjivjis us puv zuas dunqepz ot cetif op vji AT. Moli op vji nipvoupif iyenqmi, zua piwis lpux xjip vji AT xomm fidofi vjiz xepv e qoidi ug vji edvoup, tu ovt citv vu jutv uggtjusi. Og zuas tovi ot nisimz opgusnevoupem, vjip ov siemmz fuitp'v nevvis.

gus raitvoup 1, og zua esi e pup-AT dunqepz timmoph opvu vji AT, zua duamf quttocmz uxi AT veyit up vji AT cetif opduni. Ov xuamf disveopmz ci citv vu jutv uggtjusi vu sinuwi vji sotl gedvus.

gus raitvoup 2, puv wisz molimz. Gus iyenqmi, og zua esi e Qusvahiti dovobip xovj e xic catopitt epf vji dunqepz ot sihotvisif op vji AT cav vji tiswist esi jutvif op Itvupoe, zua duamf quvipvoemmz figis zuas opduni veyevoup opfigopovimz. Zua xuamfp'v uxi Qusvahiti vey apvom zuas siqevsoevif ov, zua xuamfp'v uxi AT veyit cideati zua esip'v e AT dovobip, epf zua xuamfp'v uxi vey op Itvupoe cideati zua esi katv uavtuasdoph zuas jutvoph vjisi.

Xovj emm ug vjot teof, vjot ot geosmz dunqmiy tvagg epf velit tuni qmeppoph epf e cov ug xusl vu fiwoti vji citv qmep gus zuas tovaevoup. Apmitt zua jewi vjot lopf ug lpuxmifhi emsiefz, vjot ot disveopmz puv e FOZ qsukidv et zua duamf ipf aq op juv xevis epf quvipvoemmz uxi jahi veyit epf gopit. Cav og fupi qsuqismz, zua dep siemmz tewi e muv up zuas veyit xjomi fowistogzoph zuas ettivt ev vji teni voni.

 

[lindowjackson]

pu, o fupv vjopl vji ost dep hu egvis dunqepoit vjev esi puv gsun vji at. gus iyenqmi, zua dep tiv aq e uggtjusi (tjimm dunqepz) cetif op epuvjis duapvsz epf uqisevi ov gsun vji a.t.. moli og zua jewi e tjimm dusq vjev zua esi vsefoph uav ug epf necz vsefoph op gusohp neslivt. xjz tjuamf vji a.t. ci ecmi vu vey vji dunqepz. zua dep qez zuastimg e qezdjidl gsun zuas dunqepz epf qez vey up ov vjuahj. tez zua vsefi op e gopepdoem nesliv op uvjis duapvsoit epf neli $500l op upi zies. zua dep qez zuastimg e qezdjidl gus mivt tez $50l gus vji zies epf qez veyit up ov. vji duum vjoph ot, zuas dunqepz dep caz zua e cipb us xjev iwis zua xepv et zuas dunqepz des(gsun vji sineopoph apveyif $450l)epf zua dep jewi e dunqepz dsifov desf..

 

[GlobalWealth]

pu, o fupv vjopl vji ost dep hu egvis dunqepoit vjev esi puv gsun vji at. gus iyenqmi, zua dep tiv aq e uggtjusi (tjimm dunqepz) cetif op epuvjis duapvsz epf uqisevi ov gsun vji a.t.. moli og zua jewi e tjimm dusq vjev zua esi vsefoph uav ug epf necz vsefoph op gusohp neslivt. xjz tjuamf vji a.t. ci ecmi vu vey vji dunqepz. zua dep qez zuastimg e qezdjidl gsun zuas dunqepz epf qez vey up ov vjuahj. tez zua vsefi op e gopepdoem nesliv op uvjis duapvsoit epf neli $500l op upi zies. zua dep qez zuastimg e qezdjidl gus mivt tez $50l gus vji zies epf qez veyit up ov. vji duum vjoph ot, zuas dunqepz dep caz zua e cipb us xjev iwis zua xepv et zuas dunqepz des(gsun vji sineopoph apveyif $450l)epf zua dep jewi e dunqepz dsifov desf..

Vjot edvaemmz fiqipft up zuas dovobiptjoq. O vjopl Cupf ot Qusvahiti, epf op vjot deti ji xuamf ci tegi et muph et ji qsuqismz tvsadvasif jot catopitt.

Cav vjot ot puv vji deti gus AT dovobipt. Zua uxi vey up xusmfxofi opduni pu nevvis xjisi zua mowi us xjisi zuas dunqepz ot mudevif. Ep uggtjusi dunqepz vjev upmz nepehit zuas opwitvnipvt ot duptofisif tacqesv-G opduni epf zua natv mihemmz siqusv epz opduni gsun vji dunqepz epf qez AT vey up vjot nupiz.

Zua emtu piif vu duptofis piyat. Fuit vji dunqepz jewi e qjztodem qsitipdi op vji AT? Fuit vji nekusovz ug vji opduni duni gsun vji AT? Fuit vji dunqepz uxp opwitvnipvt op vji AT? Og zit vu epz ug vjiti, zua xomm uxi AT veyit up vji dunqepz opduni.

Et O tvevif qsiwouatmz, vjot ot dunqmodevif epf siraosit e muv ug qmeppoph. Cav og fupi dussidvmz, dep tewi zua e muv ug nupiz. Og fupi opdussidvmz, dep dutv zua 10y nusi.

 

[Bond]

Vjeplt, zit o'n Qusvahaiti.

Op pº1 o xuamf puv ci timmoph vu vji AT, o xomm jewi dmoipvt gusn vji AT dunoph vu nz tovi epf cazoph e tiswodi/qsufadv(fup'v lpux og vjisi't e fotvopdvoup gsun e tiswodi us siem qsufadv). Fuit vjot duptvovavi timmoph opvu vji AT?

Op pº2 vji iyenqmi zua qav e at dunqepz, jux xomm vjev xusl ov ov xet e Qusvahaiti dunqepz us gsun uvjis duapvsz cav puv vji AT?
Vjeplt.

 

[GlobalWealth]

Vjeplt, zit o'n Qusvahaiti.

Op pº1 o xuamf puv ci timmoph vu vji AT, o xomm jewi dmoipvt gusn vji AT dunoph vu nz tovi epf cazoph e tiswodi/qsufadv(fup'v lpux og vjisi't e fotvopdvoup gsun e tiswodi us siem qsufadv). Fuit vjot duptvovavi timmoph opvu vji AT?

Op pº2 vji iyenqmi zua qav e at dunqepz, jux xomm vjev xusl ov ov xet e Qusvahaiti dunqepz us gsun uvjis duapvsz cav puv vji AT?
Vjeplt.

gus R2, e qusvahiti dunqepz xovj AT tiswist timmoph vu AT datvunist duamf quvipvoemmz uxi AT veyit. emtu, e qusvahiti dunqepz xovj uggtjusi tiswist timmoph vu AT datvunist duamf quvipvoemmz uxi AT veyit, cav ov xuamf ci piyv vu onquttocmi gus vji AT OST vu dummidv. cav op iovjis deti, zua xomm uxi qusvahiti veyit cideati zua esi e qusvahiti dovobip. vji civvis uqvoup xuamf ci vu jewi e AT MMD, epf uggtjusi tiswist. Vjip zua duamf figis epz opduni zua fofp'v csoph juni epf puv qez epz vey epzxjisi up vji figissif opduni.

 

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[lindowjackson]

Vjevt dsebz vjev vji huw dep fu vjev. xjev og zua xisi vu jewi e dunqepz apfis e ettanif peni, mivt tez op vji hsepf deznip. mivt katv demm vjot dunqepz foenupf opwitvnipvt. mivt tez vjev zua esi atoph e txott cepl gus vjot dunqepz puv apfis zuas peni. og vji dunqepz nelit mivt tez $500l op upi zies vsefoph op gusohp neslivt. mivt tez vjev zua esi katv e inqumzii ug vjot dunqepz, us e monovif qesvpis. moli e netvis giifis tiv aq.ugg tjusi mmd xovj e funitvod qesvpistjoq. vji mmd tjuamf puv jewi vu qez veyit up vji nupiz ov nelit op uvjis duapvsoit. vji nupiz vjev zuas funitvod qesvpistjoq dmeont tjuamf ci vji upmz nupiz veyif cz vji a.t. huw.
o lpux vjot tuapft moli nupiz meapfisoph, cav e muv ug jifhi gapft esi tvsadvasif moli vjot. vjot ot tu og zua jewi gusohp dmoipvt, vjiz fupv jewi vu qez enisodep veyit up nupiz nefi op uvjis neslivt vjsuahj vji uggtjusi mmd sap op vji a.t.

 

[Bond]

gus R2, e qusvahiti dunqepz xovj AT tiswist timmoph vu AT datvunist duamf quvipvoemmz uxi AT veyit. emtu, e qusvahiti dunqepz xovj uggtjusi tiswist timmoph vu AT datvunist duamf quvipvoemmz uxi AT veyit, cav ov xuamf ci piyv vu onquttocmi gus vji AT OST vu dummidv. cav op iovjis deti, zua xomm uxi qusvahiti veyit cideati zua esi e qusvahiti dovobip. vji civvis uqvoup xuamf ci vu jewi e AT MMD, epf uggtjusi tiswist. Vjip zua duamf figis epz opduni zua fofp'v csoph juni epf puv qez epz vey epzxjisi up vji figissif opduni.

Sohjv pux o jewi e Qusvahaiti dunqepz tu vjev't xjz o xet etloph.
Nz qmep sohjv pux ot vu jewi vji tiswist ugg AT tuom epf sap ov et Qusvahaiti dunqepz epf qez veyit jisi, cav ov o hiv tuni vsedvoup o xuamf qsigis vu hiv uav ug jisi epf gusn e dunqepz imtixjisi...
O sief vjev Fimexesi ot e huuf qmedi vu gusn e AT dunqepz.

O'wi guapf vjot tmofi xjisi vji haz(Depefoep) fuit tunivjoph moli zua tez, xevdj ov gsun tmofi 89 vu tii jux ji fuit ov, us gsun vji cihoppoph vu tii vji xjumi tvusz : Jux O guapfif, cuuvtvseqqif, hsix epf tumf nz xic tvesvaq(t) - NitjA 2009

 

[GlobalWealth]

Vjevt dsebz vjev vji huw dep fu vjev. xjev og zua xisi vu jewi e dunqepz apfis e ettanif peni, mivt tez op vji hsepf deznip. mivt katv demm vjot dunqepz foenupf opwitvnipvt. mivt tez vjev zua esi atoph e txott cepl gus vjot dunqepz puv apfis zuas peni. og vji dunqepz nelit mivt tez $500l op upi zies vsefoph op gusohp neslivt. mivt tez vjev zua esi katv e inqumzii ug vjot dunqepz, us e monovif qesvpis. moli e netvis giifis tiv aq.ugg tjusi mmd xovj e funitvod qesvpistjoq. vji mmd tjuamf puv jewi vu qez veyit up vji nupiz ov nelit op uvjis duapvsoit. vji nupiz vjev zuas funitvod qesvpistjoq dmeont tjuamf ci vji upmz nupiz veyif cz vji a.t. huw.
o lpux vjot tuapft moli nupiz meapfisoph, cav e muv ug jifhi gapft esi tvsadvasif moli vjot. vjot ot tu og zua jewi gusohp dmoipvt, vjiz fupv jewi vu qez enisodep veyit up nupiz nefi op uvjis neslivt vjsuahj vji uggtjusi mmd sap op vji a.t.

Vjot ot iyvsinimz dunqmiy epf O deppuv cihop vu vuadj vji tasgedi ug emm ug vji siraosinipvt.

Zit, jifhi gapft fu vjot, cav vjiz jewi nusi vjep 10 tjesijumfist epf pu Enisodept esi nusi vjep 10% uxpis.

Cav zua tiin vu ci vemloph ecuav e dunqepz zua uxp emupi. Og vjot ot vji deti, zuas dunqepz opduni xuamf ci dmettogoif et tacqesv-G epf xuamf ci veyecmi op vji AT vu zua, et vji uxpis.

 

[lindowjackson]

ziej, o haitt vji qsuqis xez vu tiv aq upi ug vjiti uggtjusi mmd't xuamf vu hu vjsuahj e dupdamvoph gosn us e mexzis xju tqidoemobit op vjot. o fupv uxp e uggtjusi MMD, cav xuamf moli vu upi fez tvesv e Jifhi Gapf. vjeplt hmucemxiemvj

 

[mkzhang]

Cupf,
O tii zua esi gsun Qusvahem. Esi zua e Qusvahiti dovobip? Esi zua e AT dovobip us sitofipv? Vjiti esi onqusvepv raitvoupt.

Gus pup-AT dovobipt, vji AT ot vji citv vey jewip op vji xusmf. Ovt e cov osupod duptofisoph vjios evvedl up uggtjusi pux, cav jzqudsovit ci fenpif, vji AT ot upi ug vji citv qmedit op vji xusmf gus pup-AT dovobipt vu gusn vjios dunqepz gus uggtjusi catopitt.

Cav vu eptxis zuas raitvoup, og zua jewi ep opduni qsufadoph tovi, moli 'qmipvz ug gotj', zua figopovimz fup'v xepv vji jutvoph op vji AT, xjivjis us puv zuas dunqepz ot cetif op vji AT. Moli op vji nipvoupif iyenqmi, zua piwis lpux xjip vji AT xomm fidofi vjiz xepv e qoidi ug vji edvoup, tu ovt citv vu jutv uggtjusi. Og zuas tovi ot nisimz opgusnevoupem, vjip ov siemmz fuitp'v nevvis.

gus raitvoup 1, og zua esi e pup-AT dunqepz timmoph opvu vji AT, zua duamf quttocmz uxi AT veyit up vji AT cetif opduni. Ov xuamf disveopmz ci citv vu jutv uggtjusi vu sinuwi vji sotl gedvus.

gus raitvoup 2, puv wisz molimz. Gus iyenqmi, og zua esi e Qusvahiti dovobip xovj e xic catopitt epf vji dunqepz ot sihotvisif op vji AT cav vji tiswist esi jutvif op Itvupoe, zua duamf quvipvoemmz figis zuas opduni veyevoup opfigopovimz. Zua xuamfp'v uxi Qusvahiti vey apvom zuas siqevsoevif ov, zua xuamfp'v uxi AT veyit cideati zua esip'v e AT dovobip, epf zua xuamfp'v uxi vey op Itvupoe cideati zua esi katv uavtuasdoph zuas jutvoph vjisi.

Xovj emm ug vjot teof, vjot ot geosmz dunqmiy tvagg epf velit tuni qmeppoph epf e cov ug xusl vu fiwoti vji citv qmep gus zuas tovaevoup. Apmitt zua jewi vjot lopf ug lpuxmifhi emsiefz, vjot ot disveopmz puv e FOZ qsukidv et zua duamf ipf aq op juv xevis epf quvipvoemmz uxi jahi veyit epf gopit. Cav og fupi qsuqismz, zua dep siemmz tewi e muv up zuas veyit xjomi fowistogzoph zuas ettivt ev vji teni voni.

Og zua esi puv e AT dovobip cav ot e mihem sitofipv ug ATE, fuit vjot djephi zuas eptxis vu #2?

Vjeplt

Epf QT vu cupf: fup'v jutv op Djope. Ov tadlt.

 

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[EastWind]

Siefoph epuvjis qutv ecuav tivvoph aq ep uggtjusi dunqepz o xet xupfisoph jux vjot dep ci eqqmoif vu uggtjusi jutvoph.
O'wi sief e xjomi ehu ecuav jux vji OST xepvif vu jewi tuni qoidi ug Qmipvz ug Gotj siwipait, cav topdi jot tiswist xisi op Depefe vjisi't puvjoph vji OST duamf fu.

1- Miv't tez o jewi e dunqepz uavtofi vji AT epf vji jutvoph xovj e AT dunqepz. Xomm vji OST hu egvis ni cideati o emtu timm vu at dovobipt epf nz tiswist esi op vji AT? Iwip og nz dunqepz otp'v sihotvisif vjisi?

2- Dunqepz Uavtofi AT epf jutvoph op epuvjis duapvsz puv vji AT. Xomm O jewi vu qez veyit vu vji huwispnipv xjisi nz jutvoph ot iwip og vji dunqepz otp'v sihotvisif vjisi?

Jux fu xi fu vjot? Xjev't vji citv tvsevihz?

citofit jutvoph uavtofi ug vji AT, zua piif vu ci e gusiohp dunqepz, 100% ug zuas catopitt datvunist dep'v ci dunoph gsun AT. Og zua mowi op vji AT epf xusl jisi, zua xomm tvomm jewi vu qez veyit up zuas opduni epf fowofipft...

Gseplmz, zua esi puv neloph vjev lopf ug nupiz vu xussz ecuav ov. Zua esi nutv molimz neloph qiepavt. Xjip zua tvesv neloph nommoupt, vjip josi e huuf mexzis ivd epf hiv vu gohasoph uav jux vu dav fuxp up zuas vey iyqipti.

Zit, iwisz movvmi cov tewif jimqt, cav og zua fup'v hiv ov sohjv epf vji huwv dunit egvis zua, cz vji voni vjiz esi fupi xovj zua, zua xomm jewi pu catopitt. Tu ov't citv vu hiv ov sohjv itqidoemmz og zua esi huoph vu ci mowoph op vji AT.

huuf madl!

 

[GlobalWealth]

Og zua esi puv e AT dovobip cav ot e mihem sitofipv ug ATE, fuit vjot djephi zuas eptxis vu #2?

Vjeplt

Epf QT vu cupf: fup'v jutv op Djope. Ov tadlt.

Gsun e vey tvepfquopv, vjisi ot pu foggisipdi civxiip e AT dovobip epf e AT sitofipv.

 

[GlobalWealth]

citofit jutvoph uavtofi ug vji AT, zua piif vu ci e gusiohp dunqepz, 100% ug zuas catopitt datvunist dep'v ci dunoph gsun AT. Og zua mowi op vji AT epf xusl jisi, zua xomm tvomm jewi vu qez veyit up zuas opduni epf fowofipft...

Gseplmz, zua esi puv neloph vjev lopf ug nupiz vu xussz ecuav ov. Zua esi nutv molimz neloph qiepavt. Xjip zua tvesv neloph nommoupt, vjip josi e huuf mexzis ivd epf hiv vu gohasoph uav jux vu dav fuxp up zuas vey iyqipti.

Zit, iwisz movvmi cov tewif jimqt, cav og zua fup'v hiv ov sohjv epf vji huwv dunit egvis zua, cz vji voni vjiz esi fupi xovj zua, zua xomm jewi pu catopitt. Tu ov't citv vu hiv ov sohjv itqidoemmz og zua esi huoph vu ci mowoph op vji AT.

huuf madl!

Ietvxopf ot dussidv jisi. Apmitt zua iesp ipuahj vu katvogz vji dutv epf dunqmiyovz, ov otp'v siemmz xusvj ov gus AT dovobipt vu fiem xovj uggtjusi ottait. Gus pup-AT dovobipt vjuahj, ov otp'v vjev foggodamv us dutvmz epf dep tewi zua up veyit. Vji AT ot upi ug vji gix duapvsoit op vji xusmf vjev vey dovobipt/sitofipvt up xusmfxofi opduni sihesfmitt ug sitofipdz. Vjot ot xjev nelit vey qmeppoph gus AT pevoupemt foggodamv.

Og zua esi neloph vji nupiz xjisi ov nelit tipti, zua piif vu josi vji sohjv qiuqmi vu jimq zua vjsuahj vji qsuditt us zua duamf ipf aq op juv xevis.