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Heads up! Kind of a lengthy read
I'd like to open this thread for people who are outsourcing their work. Outsourcing work such as getting some copywrite done by a person on the internet, getting some napkin drawings converted to 3D models of a product, or simply outsourcing a voice actor for you product.

Lately i've been sketching designs for a product I have in mind. It requires tubing and plastic parts, all custom.
On this forum I came across a site called Fiverr.com and it's great for outsourcing work. You can hire gigs for as little as $5-$30.
The people who you can hire tend to be from foreign countries, like Macedonia (FYROM), Sri Lanka, and India, a lot of talented engineers for CAD models!

I have been reading the book, One Simple Idea for Start-Ups and Entrepreneurs by Stephen Key.
He speaks about design, manufacturing, and such.
He also talks about Watching Your Back! Getting IP, Intellectual Property for your idea/product.
such as Design Patents, Utility Patents, Provisional Patent Applications, and Non Disclosure Agreements.

Right now i have not filed for patent protection yet, so Stephen Key suggests using a non-disclosure agreement whenever showing my idea to anyone other than immediate friends and family.
He has emphasized that for any person performing a task related to your product-for example people giving gigs on Fiverr.com such as designers, CAD engineers- that they need to sign a NDA NonDisclosure Agreement, and/or a Work for Hire agreement, this states "that any work they perform on your behalf belongs wholly and exclusively to you. That way, they have no claim to your invention/product."

Does this apply for people who I purchase gigs from on Fiverr.com? The designs on parts I get, I will be using for commercial use, but I dont want to get sued because they want in since "they designed it". But then again, they arent in the united states, the people ive hired are in New Dheli.
I have not shwon them my product or told them what the piece is for, I simply give them a sketch and dimensions of the part I'd like to see in 3D model on CAD.
(I keep certain details of my design to myself until i have a PPA and i am ready to make and sell.)


Check out what Fiverr.com gives,
http://support.fiverr.com/hc/en-us/articles/204791227
When purchasing a gig, some people give the option of Commercial Use, which "the seller grants you a perpetual, exclusive, non-transferable, worldwide license to use the purchased delivery for Permitted Commercial Purposes. Unless clearly stated otherwise on the seller's Gig page/description, all intellectual property rights of the purchased delivery are hereby assigned to you."

This is all very confusing when outsourcing work. How have you guys done it when designing products with the intent of manufacturing them.

Does being in america and hiring someone to do a $5 gig from across the world matter? Do i actually need a worldwide license?

I was thinking of, with the designs they give me of a piece of product, I can use that 3D model picture to show people such as mentors, angel investors, and manufacturers. Then to avoid getting into Legal Battles with people I hired, when it comes time to manufacturer for commercial use, I can make slight changes in dimensions and shape to products to avoid designers claiming their stake at my product.
 
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