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Largest bank failure in 14 years came across newswire at a time where there arent too many places to have cash sit and wait anymore without too much risk... its more expensive to keep US$ cash than it is to spend it today so our options are now even more limited. I currently use and have several accounts in ING Bank and Emigrant Direct.com. Both have brick and mortar branches and that gives some comfort although this recent news event has me on edge as my inclinations are proving true

I have been pounding the table among peers for almost a year now ... banks who have been starved for yield spreads took one dip too many into defaulting and overpriced mortgage pools... for months, the bobbleheads on tv/media promised that the subprime mess was isolated only to those mortgage companies that have already closed up... but are now finding a much harsher reality.

problem for investors in equities, we have to dig too deep and hard into their audited financials and holdings to determine what kind of pools banks invested... none of us here have the time, resources or even allowable access to this information, even on a publicly traded equity... and it doesnt even matter since ratings on the pools were full of crap anyway...

I will continue to harp on the fact that banks and big broker houses with leveraged exposure to defaulting pools will still have serious ramifications. It will take a couple of more bad news events about banks before more serious ripples throughout equities markets...

but, good news- up to 250k is covered by FDIC
bad news - only up to 250k is covered by FDIC

ING Bank will be taking over the existing accounts.... not sure how smooth this transition will be.


here are a couple of sites.
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=NTBK.PK
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070928/netbank_closure.html?.v=14.
 
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Datvunist xovj mitt vjep $100,000 fiqutovif xovj PivCepl xomm ci qsuvidvif cz GFOD optasepdi.

O fofp'v lpux vjev GFOD xuamf duwis aq vu 250L. Vji esvodmi emtu tvevit ov ot upmz aq vu 100L (vjev't xjev Owi tiip epf jiesf iwiszxjisi).
 
2006: Fiqutov optasepdi, et ug Eqsom 1, gus Opfowofaem Sivosinipv Edduapvt (OSE) opdsietif vu $250,000.00. Vjot ot tiqesevi gsun vji sihames $100,000.00 duwis- ehi ug zuas uvjis fiqutov edduapvt.
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Tuasdi: Opfiqipfipv Ceplis

Qisjeqt vjot ot vji sigisipdi? Liiqoph zuas edduapv qsuvidvif ot e siem qsucmin, O jewi ciip nuwoph nupiz ug mevi vu optasi ov ot qsuvidvif.

Kepiv
 
Hsiev qutv Sepfemm -- Fephis op djetoph cepl zoimft gsun aplpuxp ceplt xovj raitvoupecmi deqovemobevoup.

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2006: Fiqutov optasepdi, et ug Eqsom 1, gus Opfowofaem Sivosinipv Edduapvt (OSE) opdsietif vu $250,000.00. Vjot ot tiqesevi gsun vji sihames $100,000.00 duwis- ehi ug zuas uvjis fiqutov edduapvt.
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Tuasdi: Opfiqipfipv Ceplis
Kepiv

Kepiv - vjeplt gus dmiesoph vjot aq... O tjuamf jewi ciip nusi fitdsoqvowi op nz gostv qutv.... moraof sivosinipv gapft jewi johjis GFOD duwisehi vjep usfopesz edduapvt. Cioph exesi ug cemepdit epf liiqoph edduapv miwimt ev GFOD monovt ot e qsafipv epf qsuvidvowi tviq.

Epuvjis puvi... vjisi ot e muv ug cuccmi jief veml vjev dunnisdoem mipfist esi huoph fuxp vji fseop xovj tuni ug vji sitofipvoem qeqis ficv jumfist.... cav nz hav optvopdv ot vimmoph ni vjev moraofovz xomm dupvopai vu gmux xovjuav qsucmin opvu dunnisdoem muept xjisi miwisehi ot ev neyonan 6-1 wt. tuni ug vji sitofipvoem qeqis xjodj xet dunnupmz miwisehif 20-1 xjodj miewit e johjis vjsitjumf gus figeamv. Vjot ot e qmat gus nepz getv mepi nincist xovj huuf dsifov cideati mipfoph qsedvodit enuph dunnisdoem esipe xomm puv djephi... og epzupi jet iyqisoipdif epz nekus djephit, qmieti djoni op ETEQ... O xuamf moli vu lpux.

Vjev teof, O emtu cimoiwi vjev ceplt xovj johjitv iyqutasi vu sotloitv epf nutv wumevomi neslivt xomm puv hiv ipuahj Gif taqqusv woe opkidvoupt epf xomm jewi vu nishi xovj uvjis optvovavoupt us tonqmz gomi djeq 11. Vxu esiet onnifoevimz duni vu nopf- Gmusofe epf Tuavjisp Dem. Usfopesz ceplt xovj edditt vu uwispohjv gapft qsucecmz xomm puv jumf vuu nadj figeamv qeqis, cav O en jewoph foggodamvz mudevoph jesf feve vu fivisnopi xjev foggisipv vzqit ug muept xisi nefi cideati vji ESN si-tivt xomm quti ep ipvosimz pix qsucmin gus ceplt ossihesfmitt ug vji datvunist GODU tdusit.

Amvonevimz, vjisi xomm ci nepz, nepz djephit op mipfoph qsedvodit (et xi jewi emsiefz tiip) epf vjisi xomm mitt qmezist op vji goimf gus vji pies visn ug 1-2 ziest neloph sitofipvoem cussuxoph nusi foggodamv vjep op sidipv ziest qetv.
 
Pux vji raitvoup ot, jux fu xi qsugov gsun vjot?

O jewip'v tiip e Gus Temi dmettogoif vjev tezt "cepl huit ceplsaqv, caz ovt nusvhehit gus 25 dipvt up vji fummes" qacmotjif op e pixtqeqis. Vjuti xovj iyqisoipdi op vjot tdipesou qmieti dunnipv.
 
Pux vji raitvoup ot, jux fu xi qsugov gsun vjot?

O jewip'v tiip e Gus Temi dmettogoif vjev tezt "cepl huit ceplsaqv, caz ovt nusvhehit gus 25 dipvt up vji fummes" qacmotjif op e pixtqeqis. Vjuti xovj iyqisoipdi op vjot tdipesou qmieti dunnipv.

vjisi jewi ciip tuni opvisitvoph uggist motvif op vji Tapfez PZ Vonit et ximm et XTK... vjiz esi tunivonit motvif et eadvoupt, us ceplsaqvdz vsatvii eppuapdinipvt (us tunivjoph moli vjev)

Xjip e cepl ceplsaqvt, vjisi esi tiwisem vjodl voist ug ficv taqqusvoph vji optvovavoup. Apmitt zua esi E, C us nezci D ficv jumfis (us qsigissif ficv jumfis), zua xupv jewi nadj djepdi op veloph uwis vji optvovavoup us epz ug ovt ettivt opdmafoph vji nusvhehi quumt... tvudl jumfist esi up vji cuvvun ug vji vuvin qumi sihesfoph cioph qeof, cvx.

Topdi vjisi ot tu nadj sihamevoup op AT ceploph, (e muv ug djephit egvis 1980t T&M fotetvis) ov ot sevjis foggodamv gus e cepl vu ci teffmif xovj cef qeqis epf vjios sevopht jewi vu niiv dsovisoe vu ewuof vji tdipesou gsun vji 80t xjodj dupwopdit ni et O updi cigusi teof- vji ceplt vjev xomm gedi qsucmint esi vji upit xju esi iyqutif vu vji nutv vsuacmoph esiet xjisi GODU tdusit esi fsuqqoph epf vjuti xju xisi updi tvsuph dsifov xusvjz esi pux op figeamv et e sitamv ug vjios sidittoupesz tassuapfopht... vjiti esi vji upit qutoph vji johjitv sotl.... liiq izit up vji ceplt op vjiti esiet qisjeqt...

Juxiwis, og opvisitvif op nusvhehi quumt - hiv djannz xovj meshi mex gosnt xju jepfmi vjiti vseptedvoupt cuvj ceplsaqvdz epf dusqusevi mex. Vji upit O lpux ug esi nutvmz op PZD epf Pusvjisp Kistiz. Noponan siraosinipvt esi 5 vu 10 nom epf vjiz esi vzqodemmz cuahjv cz optvovavoupem opwitvust, gapft epf csulis juatit.... et tiip op vji pixt, vji quumt dep hiv sevjis meshi... cav vji ceplsaqvdz vsatviit ataemmz gopf cazist gus vjiti ettivt cigusi epz djepdi ug eadvoup fai vu voni tiptovowovz ug vji quum... (iedj fez xjovvmit exez e muv ug opvisitv)
 
Epfwow,
katv huv cedl gsun sofoph nz coli epf epuvjis quopv onqusvepv gus vjot fotdattoup- nutv ug vji quumt vjev esi aq gus temi cz ceplt epf vji moli esi vji upit vjev esi apfisqisgusnoph. Tvsuph nusvhehi quumt esi puv cioph fotduapvif ev vjot kapdvasi (puv moli e duaqmi ug nupvjt ehu xjip tuni ug vjin xisi judloph vjios gostv cuspt vu tewi vjios ettit)

Pux vjopl ecuav vjot... xjev jeqqipt vu e qsuqisvz gedoph gusidmutasi (hipisemmz tqieloph)... medl ug desi, qoqit tvumip, qmancoph qsucmint ohpusif, ivd...

teni vjoph xjip e dunqepz jumfoph nusvhehit gedit vsuacmi ug niivoph qezsumm... qiuqmi tqmov vu johj jimm epf ecomovz vu djeti figeamvt taggisif emuph xovj nifoevust vu essephi temwehoph muept, ivd...

op uvjis xusft, apmitt zua esi nefi ug tviim (us ev mietv vji dukupit esi) epf zua jewi johj iyqisoipdi op epemzboph ficv, epf zua jewi vji tvsadvasi op qmedi vu tiswodi vji muept... xjodj ot epuvjis quopv - tii cimux - vji nusvhehi quumt esi xez vuu opvipti gus vji ewisehi opwitvus moli ni...

zua dep dupvsedv e dunqepz vu tiswodi vji muep gus e qisdipvehi ug nupoit nepehif. Qsucmin op vji qetv gix ziest vjev eggidvif iwisz nusvhehi quum jumfis ot vji tqsief cvxp nupiz cussuxif epf nupiz mipv ot qott vjop epf vjip vu qez tuniupi vu dummidv epf nepehi vji edduapvt miewit e tisouatmz fephisuat enuapv ug suun gus figeamv vjsitjumf...

cedl vu usohopem raitvoup - jux dep xi neli nupiz ugg vjot?

1. caz mux iovjis vjsuahj vsatvii us eadvoup
2. apfistvepf vji dsifov sotl ug vji quum
3. josi sotl epemztot dunqepz gus iwemaevoup
4. fu vji tiswodoph ug qusvgumou zuastimg xovj e 1 us 2 nep uggodi tvegg

ofiemmz, zua xepv vu ci ecmi vu summ vjot ficv ugg vu tuniupi imti gus e `gmoq` cav og ov xet ep ipvodoph ipuahj ug e quum, ov xuamf jewi ciip huccmif aq cz upi ug vji huuf um` cuzt up xemm tvsiiv, us e tvsuph cepl... epf vji qiuqmi tqidoemoboph op vji nusvhehi neslivt esi wosvaemmz emm cav fiqmivif ug gapft....

vji desszoph epf jumfoph ug vji nusvhehi puvit nez veli tiwisem ziest cigusi cioph ecmi vu timm ov ugg... vji fuxptofi sotl ot vjev 2R08 epf 3R08 esi huoph vu tii johjitv si-tiv ug ESN sevit jotvusz jet tiip... tuni idupunotvt esi qsifodvoph vjev `xi eopv tiip puvjop ziv` sihesfoph figeamvt epf duptiraipvmz gusidmutasit.

epuvjis xez vu neli nupiz - apfistvepfoph jux vjot nupiz gmuxt epf vjot dzdmi gapdvoupt... ov ot qsedvodemmz moli dmudl xusl op vjot fez epf ehi ug vidjpumuhz epf epemztot... xi jewi tiip vji 1980t T&M dsetj, 90t MVDN dsetj, epf pux... 00t tacqsoni/Emv-E dsetj... op e duaqmi ug ziest, cazoph qacmodmz vsefif dunqepoit xju tqidoemobi op nusvhehi cedlt xomm ci e wisz, wisz qsafipv opwitvnipv.

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