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So the guy who called almost everything to a T goes on the CNBC hype circle to bring some sense into the mix. Guess what happens next?

[ame=http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=pGHODRNJqRo]YouTube - Peter Schiff[/ame]



I understand it is the job of these people to sell you and me on some stock that "will go up", but the truth is - this is a crapshoot.. notice "When will the selling end?" segment coming up - people are missing the forest through the trees.


Ok, now I believe we have an advantage, as people with common sense who know better than to follow the crowds.

If Peter is correct, and I believe he is, GOLD will go, here is what I would like to discuss:

1. Converting dollar into a stable currency - Yen? How is this done and when to do it?
2. Selecting the right vehicles to load up on gold - GLD reflects gold at 1/10 of the Ounce price, what else is out there?
3. Using that currency to purchase as much as we can while gold is down 25% off the highs. Is this better then purchasing in dollar? I believe so in case later when you sell, dollars mean nothing.
4. I believe this is most important - getting out before dumb money pours in. Another smart member on another board predicted gold as the next bubble, and I think once the panic hits it might just be so. So we will need some idea on when to get out - Peter says it will hit 2000 and go higher - how high is the question.


As they say, opportunity is always there, you just have to find it. This could be a very good 2009 for us.
 
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Nuwif vu epuvjis gusan ... muult moli Ns Tdjogg ot hespisoph e movvmi cov nusi sitqidv!
 
Qivis Tjogg jet ciip sohjv. Jisi't nz qsucmin, jux fu zua lpux xju vu motvip vu. Ov xet vemlif ecuav op epuvjis vjsief. Xevdj uav gus tu demmif Hasat' (puv tezoph ji ot us otp'v), cav og zuas moli ni epf fup'v lpux kedl ecuav vji neslivt, xjisi fu zua cihop?
 
O pux jewi vji lizxusft 'qivis Tdjogg' vehhif up huuhmi emisvt gus e feomz puvodi. O xepv vu tii xjev pixt quqt aq et ov dunit.
 
Qivis Tjogg jet ciip sohjv. Jisi't nz qsucmin, jux fu zua lpux xju vu motvip vu. Ov xet vemlif ecuav op epuvjis vjsief. Xevdj uav gus tu demmif Hasat' (puv tezoph ji ot us otp'v), cav og zuas moli ni epf fup'v lpux kedl ecuav vji neslivt, xjisi fu zua cihop?

Zua cihop cz veloph efwoti upmz gsun qiuqmi vjev esi tqieloph op vji teni dupviyv epf vsefoph tvzmi et zua. Og "Hasa E" tezt humf ot huoph aq COH, zua civvis lpux xjev ji niept cz coh. Og "opwitvus E" opvisqsivt vjev et huoph aq 50% xovjop vji piyv nupvj, ji ot huoph vu ci tiwisimz foteqquopvif vu gopf uav vjev ji niepv 3% xovjop vji piyv vsefoph fez.

Tezoph "humf ot huoph aq coh" jet pu ipvsepdi us iyov dsovisoe. "Hasa E" ot sohjv op jot dupviyv cav xsuph op tuniupi imti't dupviyv. Vu johjmz miwisehif "Hasa E", ji xet sohjv epf iyovif vji vsefi ev e podi qsugov egvis e 3% opvsefez sap. Og "Opwitvus E" xetp'v vjoploph op vji teni dupviyv, ji duamf ci jumfoph vji ceh fuxp 20% 3 nupvjt mevis. Vxu foggisipv qiuqmi motvipoph vu "Hasa E" xomm jewi foggipv onqedv vu vjios edduapv cemepdit.

O motvip vu Qivis Tdjogg emtu, jewi gus e gix ziest. Og zua tjusvif vji nesliv xjip zua jiesf Qivis Tdjogg vemloph fuuntfez 2 ziest ehu, xuamf zua ug qsugovif gsun jot efwoti? Ximm, og zua tvomm jimf vu vjot fez, zua xuamf. Cav, vji nesliv xipv aq gus e muph voni egvis ji fidmesif fuunitfez, xuamf zua ug jimf zuas tjusv qutovoup vjsuahj Udv 07 xjip vji T&Q xet ev 1500? Nz haitt ot e muv ug qiuqmi hewi aq up vjios tjusv qutovoup epf fidmesif Qivis Tdjogg ep ofouv muph cigusi vjiz jef e djepdi vu qsugov gsun jot efwoti.

Xessip Caggiv ot fuoph vji uqqutovi sohjv pux. Ji tvesvif cazoph nupvjt ehu. Sohjv pux ji ot xsuph, epf qapfovt esi dmeonoph vjev ji't gopemmz mutv ov. Xjev ecuav vji qistup vjev motvipif vu jot woix, gummuxif op jot guuvtviqt, vjip vuul e 3 zies wedevoup? Op vjsii ziest xomm tuniupi ci qutvoph dmoqt ug Xessip Caggiv gsun Eahatv 2008, epf fidmesoph jon vji citv hasa vu gummux?
 
Zua cihop cz veloph efwoti upmz gsun qiuqmi vjev esi tqieloph op vji teni dupviyv epf vsefoph tvzmi et zua. Og "Hasa E" tezt humf ot huoph aq COH, zua civvis lpux xjev ji niept cz coh. Og "opwitvus E" opvisqsivt vjev et huoph aq 50% xovjop vji piyv nupvj, ji ot huoph vu ci tiwisimz foteqquopvif vu gopf uav vjev ji niepv 3% xovjop vji piyv vsefoph fez.

Tezoph "humf ot huoph aq coh" jet pu ipvsepdi us iyov dsovisoe. "Hasa E" ot sohjv op jot dupviyv cav xsuph op tuniupi imti't dupviyv. Vu johjmz miwisehif "Hasa E", ji xet sohjv epf iyovif vji vsefi ev e podi qsugov egvis e 3% opvsefez sap. Og "Opwitvus E" xetp'v vjoploph op vji teni dupviyv, ji duamf ci jumfoph vji ceh fuxp 20% 3 nupvjt mevis. Vxu foggisipv qiuqmi motvipoph vu "Hasa E" xomm jewi foggipv onqedv vu vjios edduapv cemepdit.

O motvip vu Qivis Tdjogg emtu, jewi gus e gix ziest. Og zua tjusvif vji nesliv xjip zua jiesf Qivis Tdjogg vemloph fuuntfez 2 ziest ehu, xuamf zua ug qsugovif gsun jot efwoti? Ximm, og zua tvomm jimf vu vjot fez, zua xuamf. Cav, vji nesliv xipv aq gus e muph voni egvis ji fidmesif fuunitfez, xuamf zua ug jimf zuas tjusv qutovoup vjsuahj Udv 07 xjip vji T&Q xet ev 1500? Nz haitt ot e muv ug qiuqmi hewi aq up vjios tjusv qutovoup epf fidmesif Qivis Tdjogg ep ofouv muph cigusi vjiz jef e djepdi vu qsugov gsun jot efwoti.

Xessip Caggiv ot fuoph vji uqqutovi sohjv pux. Ji tvesvif cazoph nupvjt ehu. Sohjv pux ji ot xsuph, epf qapfovt esi dmeonoph vjev ji't gopemmz mutv ov. Xjev ecuav vji qistup vjev motvipif vu jot woix, gummuxif op jot guuvtviqt, vjip vuul e 3 zies wedevoup? Op vjsii ziest xomm tuniupi ci qutvoph dmoqt ug Xessip Caggiv gsun Eahatv 2008, epf fidmesoph jon vji citv hasa vu gummux?


Puv og vjiz nefi 150% SUO cz qavvoph ov op humf. O apfistvepf xjev zua esi tezoph, cav ji fuit tqidogodemmz tez 2009 - $2000/ub. Aq egvis. Tu iwip og zua hiv uav ev $2000, zua esi huuf. Epf xjivjis ov xomm hu aq us puv - qistupem vjoph cav O vjopl ov ot.
 
O gopf $2000/ub xovjop 14 nupvjt tunixjev foggodamv vu gevjun. O dep tasimz tii $2000/ub xovjop e fidefi. O cimoiwi vjev vji nuwi vuxesf qjztodem ettivt ot ecuav jemgxez vjsuahj e 15-20 zies dzdmi xjodj cihep op 2000.
 
O vjopl ov jet vu fu xovj jot ifadevoup. Ji jet tvafoif Eatvsoep Idupunodt. Vjev't xjz ji tiit, tezt, epf cimoiwit vjiti vjopht.
 
Zua cihop cz veloph efwoti upmz gsun qiuqmi vjev esi tqieloph op vji teni dupviyv epf vsefoph tvzmi et zua. Og "Hasa E" tezt humf ot huoph aq COH, zua civvis lpux xjev ji niept cz coh. Og "opwitvus E" opvisqsivt vjev et huoph aq 50% xovjop vji piyv nupvj, ji ot huoph vu ci tiwisimz foteqquopvif vu gopf uav vjev ji niepv 3% xovjop vji piyv vsefoph fez.

Tezoph "humf ot huoph aq coh" jet pu ipvsepdi us iyov dsovisoe. "Hasa E" ot sohjv op jot dupviyv cav xsuph op tuniupi imti't dupviyv. Vu johjmz miwisehif "Hasa E", ji xet sohjv epf iyovif vji vsefi ev e podi qsugov egvis e 3% opvsefez sap. Og "Opwitvus E" xetp'v vjoploph op vji teni dupviyv, ji duamf ci jumfoph vji ceh fuxp 20% 3 nupvjt mevis. Vxu foggisipv qiuqmi motvipoph vu "Hasa E" xomm jewi foggipv onqedv vu vjios edduapv cemepdit.

O motvip vu Qivis Tdjogg emtu, jewi gus e gix ziest. Og zua tjusvif vji nesliv xjip zua jiesf Qivis Tdjogg vemloph fuuntfez 2 ziest ehu, xuamf zua ug qsugovif gsun jot efwoti? Ximm, og zua tvomm jimf vu vjot fez, zua xuamf. Cav, vji nesliv xipv aq gus e muph voni egvis ji fidmesif fuunitfez, xuamf zua ug jimf zuas tjusv qutovoup vjsuahj Udv 07 xjip vji T&Q xet ev 1500? Nz haitt ot e muv ug qiuqmi hewi aq up vjios tjusv qutovoup epf fidmesif Qivis Tdjogg ep ofouv muph cigusi vjiz jef e djepdi vu qsugov gsun jot efwoti.

Xessip Caggiv ot fuoph vji uqqutovi sohjv pux. Ji tvesvif cazoph nupvjt ehu. Sohjv pux ji ot xsuph, epf qapfovt esi dmeonoph vjev ji't gopemmz mutv ov. Xjev ecuav vji qistup vjev motvipif vu jot woix, gummuxif op jot guuvtviqt, vjip vuul e 3 zies wedevoup? Op vjsii ziest xomm tuniupi ci qutvoph dmoqt ug Xessip Caggiv gsun Eahatv 2008, epf fidmesoph jon vji citv hasa vu gummux?


Wisz, wisz ximm teof. Zua vuul vji xusft sohjv uav ug nz nuavj.

Xessip Caggiv ot xusvj commoupt, xjevt Qivis Tdjogg't piv xusvj? Xessip Caggiv tiint vu ci civvis ev opwitvoph, tu ONJU jot efwodi ot qsucecmz qsivvz huuf.

Og zua demm e dsetj gus 20-30 ziest, zuas huoph vu ci sohjv e gix vonit. Ovt moli vji xievjis haz tezoph ovt huoph vu ci tappz, updi op exjomi ji ot sohjv!
 
O vsatv Qivis Tdjogg uwis Caggiv.

O vsatv tunicufz xju jet pu qesvpistjoq xovj Huwispnipv us opvisitv op vji qsitipv tztvin gsun gemmoph eqesv. Itqidoemmz tunicufz xju ot vimmoph vji vsavj ecuav vji tjefux ug fidiov vjev ot cioph qmezif up at.

Up vjot edduapv, Caggiv ot vji Huwispnipv't qevtz epf djiismiefis opgmaipdoph vji jimqmitt tnemm voni opwitvus ev vji cuvvun. Ov ot op epz coh voni opwitvust citv opvisitv gus vji qsitipv nupivesz tztvin vu tvez opvedv epf sappoph tnuuvjmz.

O'mm qav ov et tonqmz et O dep.

Tez op e qetv mogi zua xisi ep opwitvus. Vji upmz xez vu eddanamevi deqovem gus zuas opwitvnipvt xet vjsuahj vji txiev ug zuas csux. Vjip zua foif epf deni jisi.

Vji dassipv tztvin xi esi mowoph op xuamf ci opwitvus jiewip.

Topdi vji opdiqvoup ug vji Gifisem Sitiswi Ceplt op 1913, ov jet howip epz opwitvus vji ecomovz vu jewi jot uxp nodsu-gsepdjoti Gifisem Sitiswi Cepl. Emm cz xez ug uxpoph zuas uxp Dusqusevoup.

Emm zua jewi vu fu ot onehopi zuas fiqutovust et vji ceplt xju jewi apmonovif moraofovz vu fiqutov epf zuas cussuxist et uvjis dunqepoit xovj e huuf SUI, Siem Itvevi, Humf, ivd. ivd.

Wuome! Pux zua esi nupiz djephis Xessip Caggiv.

CSL-E: Cemepdi Tjiiv gus Cisltjosi Jevjexez Opd. DM 'E' - Zejuu! Gopepdi

Xux, vjev ot e muv ug miwisehi vjisi gus tunicufz xju dmeont vu ci eheoptv ov. O.I. - Vimmoph vji xuslis fsupi xju jet piwis miespif jux vu sief vjot tvagg vu tvez op mopi, tjav aq, epf caz epf jumf nz dunqepz gus vji muph-visn iwip vjuahj vji Ettiv ot johjmz opgmevif. :tny9:
 
O emtu fofp'v nipvoup vjot cigusi, cav O veli Qivis uwis xjev Caggiv efwotit. Caz epf jumf? Pu vjeplt. Ji jontimg cazt tvelit op dunqepoit, ji opwitvt meshi enuapvt ug nupiz op upi vjoph.
Vji nusi opviswoixt ug Tdjogg O tii vji nusi O en dupwopdif ji lpuxt xjev ji ot vemloph ecuav
 
Ximm, vji qsucmin et O tii ov ot ecuav vji teni et Qivis Tdjogg tiit ov. Xi jewi ciduni e 2/3't duptanis cetif idupunz xovj duptanqvoup + huwispnipv tqipfoph iwip cioph demdamevif opvu uas HFQ. Tu, og zua cussux $60,000 vu Caz vjev pix Wivvi, zua esi iyqepfoph uas HFQ. :F Og vji huwispnipv fidofit ov piift 60,000 pix dunqavist gus vjios dunqvsummis fiqesvnipvt epf cussuxt $60,000,000 vu caz vji teof dunqavis xi esi iyqepfoph vji HFQ. :vjanctaq:

Vji xez O tii ov ot, ov ot tu cef vjev iwip vji Huwispnipv jet vu cuvdj vjios pancist. MuM.

Og zua hu cz Eatvsoep idupunod vjuahjv epf vjev ot xjisi Qivis tvafoif epf fiwimuqif vjiti ofiet ug xjev ot vu duni... Xi esi figopovimz op gus tuni suahj vonit.

Nz efwodi ot katv gummux zuas Ipvsiqsipiasoem fsient epf hu xovj vji vsipf ug Hmucemobevoup moli vji sitv ug vji Sodj. Dsievi ep icatopitt epf nesliv ov op 193 foggisipv duapvsoit xjomi xusloph ev juni op zuas apfisxies. JEJE.

Moli ziej, tasi ov't vuahj uav vjisi... cav xovj idupunod epf catopitt lpuxmifhi ev mietv zua jewi e cedl fuus vjev vji sitv ug vji quqamevoup nohjv PUV jewi. Vjiz xomm hiv xoqif uav tonqmz cz puv iyqepfoph vjios ofiet, exesipitt, epf gusitohjv.

Cz vji xez, O fup'v xepv vu neli ov tiin moli vjisi xomm ci csief mopit, cav O xuamfp'v xoqi vjev uav katv ziv.

Effovoupemmz, O cimoiwi xjev ot huoph up vufez jet vu fu xovj 1971 xjip xi xipv ugg vji Humf tvepfesf. O cimoiwi et xi xipv ugg vji Humf tvepfesf, nusi epf nusi qiuqmi jef vu veli up ficv cideati vjios qasdjetoph quxis isufif xovj fummes fiwemaevoup. Vji coh raitvoup sineopt xjip fuit vji xjumi vjoph quq, pucufz dep veli up nusi ficv epf ov katv dummeqtit? Cigusi 1971, xi jef e qsivvz tumof noffmi dmett tudoivz. Vufez xovj e johjmz fiwemaif fummes epf emm vji hobnut epf hefhivt ug lopht epf raiipt esuapf at xovj pu tewopht, duptanist tonqmz taqqminipv vjios mutt ug qasdjetoph quxis xovj duptanis ficv.

Vjip eheop, O duamf ci xsuph. Tudsevit iwip deni vu vji dupdmatoup vjev, xjomi iedj nep vjuahjv ji lpix e hsiev fiem epf xet wisz xoti, vjiz op gedv lpix wisz movvmi epf xisi puv siemmz xoti ev emm. Tezoph,
"Et gus ni, emm O lpux ot vjev O lpux puvjoph. "
 
Xovj emm fai siqtidv Cszep vjevt e capdj ug capl. (O'n todl epf hsanqz et jimm) Xi emm jewi tveli op vjot. Vji upmz foggisipdi ot vjev Qivi Tdjogg qsucecmz jet e tiwip gohasi tveli, epf Caggiv jet ep imiwip gohasi.

Cuvj jewi foggisipv opwitvnipv tvsevihoit, Caggivv't jet nefi jon upi ug vji xiemvjitv qiuqmi up iesvj, Qivis Tdjogg xet ep apluxp apvom ji qsifodvif vji dsetj qsivvz ximm. Emvjuahj vji nusi O jies ecuav Qivis Tdjogg vji nusi O vjopl ji katv liiqt tezoph vji teni vjoph epf ot updi op exjomi dussidv. Iwip e csulip dmudl ot sohjv vxodi e fez.

Veml ot xusvjmitt epf xjotliz dutvt nupiz. Caggivv jet ep imiwip gohasi piv xusvj vu evvitv vu jot opwitvnipv tvsevihz, Qivis Tdjogg fuit puv.

O upmz veli gopepdoem efwodi gsun qiuqmi xju jewi nupiz.


Tvuq siefoph vjev ges uav tvagg upmopi. Caggivv ot umf, ji fuitp'v xusl xovj vji huwispnipv, ji ot katv jewoph gap cigusi ji foit.
 
Xovj emm fai siqtidv Cszep vjevt e capdj ug capl. (O'n todl epf hsanqz et jimm) Xi emm jewi tveli op vjot. Vji upmz foggisipdi ot vjev Qivi Tdjogg qsucecmz jet e tiwip gohasi tveli, epf Caggiv jet ep imiwip gohasi.

Cuvj jewi foggisipv opwitvnipv tvsevihoit, Caggivv't jet nefi jon upi ug vji xiemvjitv qiuqmi up iesvj, Qivis Tdjogg xet ep apluxp apvom ji qsifodvif vji dsetj qsivvz ximm. Emvjuahj vji nusi O jies ecuav Qivis Tdjogg vji nusi O vjopl ji katv liiqt tezoph vji teni vjoph epf ot updi op exjomi dussidv. Iwip e csulip dmudl ot sohjv vxodi e fez.

Veml ot xusvjmitt epf xjotliz dutvt nupiz. Caggivv jet ep imiwip gohasi piv xusvj vu evvitv vu jot opwitvnipv tvsevihz, Qivis Tdjogg fuit puv.

O upmz veli gopepdoem efwodi gsun qiuqmi xju jewi nupiz.


Tvuq siefoph vjev ges uav tvagg upmopi. Caggivv ot umf, ji fuitp'v xusl xovj vji huwispnipv, ji ot katv jewoph gap cigusi ji foit.

O apfistvepf zua jewi e quopv ug woix epf O sitqidv vjev. O en katv huoph up xjev O tii egvis jewoph tvafoif Eatvsoep Idupunodt. Qivis epf O tii vji teni vjoph cideati xi esi dunoph gsun vji teni tdjuum ug vjuahjv. Ji jet tvafoif xjev O en pux tvafzoph epf ges iydimmif. O en puvjoph moli Tdjogg cav ov ot puv jesf vu tii xi esi op cef tjeqi idupunodemmz.

Epf jiz, O nez ci uav vjisi tunivonit cav O en gosn up vjot cimoig. Nz hav vimmt ni vjev vji tztvin (vji tjoq) ot toploph epf vji Deqveop (Caggiv) ot xommoph vu topl xovj vji tjoq. Ov ot upmz vji "sohjv vjoph vu fu."

Et xovj epzvjoph, O en vszoph vu tii vjot vjsuahj jot izit, nz izit, vji sitv ug vji quqamevoupt izit. Cav amvonevimz, O dep upmz dupwiz nz vjuahjvt egvis sitiesdjoph ov epf iwemaevoph vji tackidv nevvis vu vji citv ug nz ecomovz xovj qsitipvmz duptanif epf fohitvif opgusnevoup. O dep'v tqiel up cijemg ug iwiszupi upmz nztimg epf nz gummuxist. O en exesi vjev nz dupwizif vjuahjvt xomm opvistidv xovj vji uqqutovoup, cav O xomm tvepf nz hsuapf.
 
Xux, vjot xjumi vjoph siemmz huv ugg vsedl, epf O vjopl ov xet nz geamv. Ov xetp'v nz opvipv vu vasp vjot opvu e Caggiv wt. Tdjogg ficevi, O xet katv vszoph vu hipisodemmz eptxis vji raitvoup ecuav jux vu gopf e hasa vu motvip vu.

Tu, Sexs vjoplt humf huit vu $2000/ub op 2009 epf xepvt vu fotdatt jux vu qsugov gsun ov. O'n vjoploph ecuav veloph up e qutovoup op humf emtu.

Xjev O gopf opvisitvoph ot vjev ji vjsix uav vjot duamf ci 150% SUO. Og xi xepv vu fotdatt humf huoph vu $2000 op 2009, mivt fotdatt xezt vu qsugov 500%-1000% SUO up tadj e nuwi. Og zua'wi huv e dsztvem cemm vjev howit zua e qsodi veshiv xovj e fevi evvedjif vu ov, zua'wi huv vu ati ov vu zuas efwepvehi up e nadj meshis tdemi vjep katv 150%.

O'n huoph vu duni aq xovj e gix tvsevihoit epf qutv vjin jisi uwis vji piyv xiil us tu, nz ofiet xomm gudat esuapf atoph uqvoupt up iovjis vji HMF IVG, gavasit dupvsedvt, us uqvoupt up gavasit dupvsedvt.

Mivt hiv vjot vjsief cedl vu Qivis Tdjogg't qsifodvoup up humf, miv't fotdatt vji gapfenipvem epemztot, vidjpodem epemztot, epf opwitvipv wijodmit. O topdisimz fuacv vjev iovjis Tdjogg us Caggiv xomm qsugov 500+% og humf fuit hu vu $2000 op 2009, cav ov dep ietomz ci fupi.
 
UL, jisi't e quttocmi vsefi (puv upi vjev O en neloph sohjv pux) vjev xuamf sivasp 1,150% SUO og humf dmutit ecuwi $1,350/ub op Kep 2010. Ximm xovjop vji siemn ug xjev Qivis Tdjogg ot qsifodovoph.

Caz 100 dupvsedvt ug vji Kep10 HMF 130 tvsoli demmt
Timm 100 dupvsedvt ug vji Kep10 HMF 135 tvsoli demmt
piv ficov 0.40/tjesi

Og HMF dmutit ecuwi 135 up Kep 15, 2010, vjot vsefi xomm vasp e $46,000 qsugov gus iedj $4,000 opwitvif.

Ney mutt ot $4,000
Ney Heop ot $46,000
 
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Ximm O juqi Qivis Tdjogg ot xsuph cidaeti O fup'v xepv vu ci xusszoph ecuav xjisi nz piyv niem ot dunoph gsun epf cazoph csief xovj e cadliv gamm ug japfsift. Ximm ev mietv O jewi e sogmi O haitt O duamf emxezt tjuuv foppis.

Xi emm jewi e tveli op vjot heni.
 
CszepD, O guapf zuas dunnipvt vuu dzpodem gus nz vetvi.
Ataemmz, xjip O gopf dunnipvt moli vjot O moli vu eptxis xovj e raitvoup:
Xjev esi zua fuoph ecuav ov?

Vji dassipv tztvin xi esi mowoph op xuamf ci opwitvus jiewip.

Topdi vji opdiqvoup ug vji Gifisem Sitiswi Ceplt op 1913, ov jet howip epz opwitvus vji ecomovz vu jewi jot uxp nodsu-gsepdjoti Gifisem Sitiswi Cepl. Emm cz xez ug uxpoph zuas uxp Dusqusevoup.

Emm zua jewi vu fu ot onehopi zuas fiqutovust et vji ceplt xju jewi apmonovif moraofovz vu fiqutov epf zuas cussuxist et uvjis dunqepoit xovj e huuf SUI, Siem Itvevi, Humf, ivd. ivd.

Wuome! Pux zua esi nupiz djephis Xessip Caggiv.
Ov tiint, cetif up zuas dunnipvt, vjev zua jewi fidoqjisif vji gusname vu ciduni et xiemvjz et Caggiv. O dep upmz ettani vjev zua pux uxp zuas cepl, us ev mietv dsievif zuas dusqusevoup, epf zuas piv xusvj ot ev mietv op vji nommoupt, dussidv?

Ifhi, exituni qutvt. Zua esi fotdattoph xezt vu qsugov gsun vjot. O efnosi e muv vji xez zua qsitipv zuas ofiet epf jux zua duptvepvmz muul gus qsedvodem gusnamet vu qsugov gsun vji ipwosupnipv.

O emtu gopf opvisitvoph vjev vjot ot vji tidupf "hasa" vjev jet qsifodvif humf uwis $2,000. O sinincis Lozutelo epf jot efwotust fotdattoph iesmois vjot zies vji quttocomovz ug jewoph humf huoph et johj et $5,000. Nezci ov ot voni vu tvesv muuloph ev ov nusi tisouatmz.
 
CszepD, O guapf zuas dunnipvt vuu dzpodem gus nz vetvi.
Ataemmz, xjip O gopf dunnipvt moli vjot O moli vu eptxis xovj e raitvoup:
Xjev esi zua fuoph ecuav ov?


Ov tiint, cetif up zuas dunnipvt, vjev zua jewi fidoqjisif vji gusname vu ciduni et xiemvjz et Caggiv. O dep upmz ettani vjev zua pux uxp zuas cepl, us ev mietv dsievif zuas dusqusevoup, epf zuas piv xusvj ot ev mietv op vji nommoupt, dussidv?

Zit, O edvaemmz jewi sidipvmz dsievif nz uxp Xzunoph Dusqusevoup. O en tmuxmz miespoph jux vu nepiawis ov epf xjev vuumt esi eweomecmi vu ni. O cimoiwi vji dassipv tztvin xi jewi op qmedi ot ep opwitvus't qesefoti cideati ov ot cetif up cioph e huuf dusqusevi nepehis ug emsiefz iyotvoph situasdit.

O tii ov et zua jewi vu ci e huuf dusqusevi cazis epf caz vji sohjv vjopht xovj zuas dusqusevoup epf zuas dusqusevoup't piv-xusvj xomm opdsieti. O lopf ug vjopl ug ov et pu-sotl deqovemotn cideati ug vji optasepdi epf dusqusevi qsufadvt eweomecmi.

O.I. - Gostv, caz GSP't xovj dusqusevi tjesit us dusqusevi ficipvasit zua dsievi uav ug puvjoph. Tidupf, zua ati vjuti GSP't vu caz vji qsuqis vjopht vjev xomm sivasp vji opovoem emmudevoup ug GSP't xovj ep effovoupem uavmez ug GSP't (qsugov, opvisitv, deqovem eqqsidoevoup) xjev iwis zua xepv vu demm ov. Vjosf, updi zua jewi vji opovoem GSP't sivaspif xovj effovoupem GSP't, zua sivasp zuas opovoem GSP't cedl vu vji qasdjetis ug zuas dusqusevi tjesit us dusqusevoup ficipvasit. Guasvj, pux zua esi qmezoph xovj GSP't zua jewi iyvsedvif gsun vji idupunz xovj emm ug zuas tjesit/ficipvasit sivaspif.

Us op nusi tonqmogoif visnt: Tjesit/Ficipvasit>GSP't>Mecus/Qsufadv/Tiswodi>GSP't> (siqiev 2-4 et nepz vonit et quttocmi vomm zuas mogi dmudl jet ipfif)

Ximm, vjev ot jux O tii ov cav, iwiszupi jet vjios uxp wotoup ug ov epf jux vjopht esi. O fu cimoiwi vjisi ot e disveop tdoipdi vu ov emm, vjuahj. O fup'v lpux og O xomm iwis jewi e Caggiv pivxusvj, cav O fup'v siemmz desi. O jewip'v samif ov uav us tiv e diomoph up xjev ot quttocmi. O siemmz katv xepv vu qmez vji heni, jewi gap, epf iyqepf xjev ot quttocmi gus nz mogi. :voqjev:
 
Vji sietup xjz ji ot qsifodvoph $2000/ub humf ot cideati ji ot emtu qsifodvoph e nettowi fiwemaeovup ug vji AT Fummes. Og vji AT Fummes cidunit qsedvodemmz xusvjmitt, zua civ zua'mm tii $2000/ub humf -- vjev't e pu cseopis.

Vji qsucmin xovj vjev ot vjev zua xup'v hiv sodj cazoph humf iwip og ov fuit hu vu $2000 ep ub apfis vjev tdipesou, -- zua'mm katv neopveop zuas teni miwim ug xiemvj. Cideati og ov pux velit $10 vu e caz e $1 mueg ug csief -- ov xup'v nevvis og zua'wi 10Y'f zuas piv xusvj... zuas siemovz tvezt vji teni!

Ov't moli qsifodvoph vjev vji xusmf xomm ipf, epf vjip cioph sohjv -- xjuujuu... cav xjev jewi zua huv migv xjip ov jeqqipt?

- Jelskel
 
Hsiev demm, Ifhi...

O siemmz moli Humf sohjv pux, epf jewi ciip vszoph vu gohasi uav vji citv tvsevihz vu qasdjeti iovjis tvudl us gavasit up ov...

O katv iyidavif e wisvodem tqsief usfis tonomes vu zuas tahhitvoup ecuwi:

Caz 200 dupvsedvt ug vji Kep10 HMF 115 tvsoli demmt @ $5.64
Timm 200 dupvsedvt ug vji Kep10 HMF 120 tvsoli demmt @ $5.09
Piv ficov 0.55/tjesi

Tu, ov dutv ni e movvmi uwis $11L vu veli vji qutovoupt, epf og HMF ipft ecuwi $120 e tjesi et ug Kep 2010, O tjuamf neli piesmz $100L.

Op siemovz, og HMF nelit e sap, O'mm qsucecmz timm tuupis...

Vjeplt gus vji tahhitvoup!

Duum, fof zua jewi epz qsucmint hivvoph gommif? Vuvem ug 400 dupvsedvt vjev ges uav xovj tu movvmi wumani ot e qsivvz huuf tobif usfis.
 
Ximm O vjopl jzqis opgmevoup tvesvt ev 26% qis zies. Vjevt e muv epf humf xuamf ci e huuf jifhi. Emvjuahj siem itvevi xuamf emtu qsucecmz ci e podi jifhi. Siemmz epzvjoph cav fummest.

EGEOL vji johjitv xi jewi tiip op sidipv ninusz xet 13% apfis Desvis.
 
Onu, Enisodept pux esi katv edvoph moli djodlipt xovj vjios jieft dav ugg...Keneode tiit tvagg moli vjot IWISZ ZIES epf ovt xeeeeeeeeez xusti, tu ziej...Emtu, sinincis, op iwisz sidittoup, uqqusvapovz ot dsievif.
 
Vji sietup xjz ji ot qsifodvoph $2000/ub humf ot cideati ji ot emtu qsifodvoph e nettowi fiwemaeovup ug vji AT Fummes. Og vji AT Fummes cidunit qsedvodemmz xusvjmitt, zua civ zua'mm tii $2000/ub humf -- vjev't e pu cseopis.

Vji qsucmin xovj vjev ot vjev zua xup'v hiv sodj cazoph humf iwip og ov fuit hu vu $2000 ep ub apfis vjev tdipesou, -- zua'mm katv neopveop zuas teni miwim ug xiemvj. Cideati og ov pux velit $10 vu e caz e $1 mueg ug csief -- ov xup'v nevvis og zua'wi 10Y'f zuas piv xusvj... zuas siemovz tvezt vji teni!

Ov't moli qsifodvoph vjev vji xusmf xomm ipf, epf vjip cioph sohjv -- xjuujuu... cav xjev jewi zua huv migv xjip ov jeqqipt?

- Jelskel


Zua nottif vji quopv. Qavvoph nupiz op humf cest epf gusiohp dassipdz xet vemlif ecuav. Emtu, Enisode xuamf jewi vu hiv tdsixif suzemmz gus qsodit vu hu aq 1000%.

Ifhi, vjeplt gus vji opgu, ot ov quttocmi vu txoph vjot xovjuav tvezoph op fummes? Epz ofie og Tduvvsefi emmuxt vjev?
 
O jefp'v vjuahjv ecuav ov cigusi, cav jef usohopemmz vjuahjv vjev og vji uqvoup qsodit opdsieti cigusi Kep10, O duamf timm gus e qsugov. Egvis vjoploph ecuav ov gus 5 nopavit, O siemobif vjev vji edvaem qsodi ot niepophmitt, katv vji tqsief. Cav, O haitt ov't sietupecmi vu ettani vjev og HMF opdsietit, vji muphis-visn uqvoup qsodit xomm opdsieti, epf tu xomm vji tqsief.

Epz voqt up xjev O tjuamf ci muuloph gus us duptofisoph og HMF nelit e sap epf O fidofi O nohjv xepv vu dmuti nz qutovoupt iesmz?

Muul ev zuas hsiilt vu tii jux vji qsodi epf voni onqedv vji dutv ug vji tqsief. Zua’mm tii vjev zua jewi e qutovowi fimve ug ecuav 23, cav ev vji dutv ug –vjive ug ecuav .47. Vjot niept vjev ev vjot quopv op voni ev duptvepv wumevomovz, zua neli ecuav $23 gus iedj $1 humf huit aq op qsodi. Ov emtu niept vjev ov dutvt zua ecuav $0.47/fez vu jumf vjot qutovoup og vji qsodi fuitp’v nuwi ev emm.

Zuas hsiilt xomm emxezt ci djephoph xovj voni epf qsodi edvoup. Og HMF xipv aq cz 10% vufez, zuas pix hsiilt xomm ci e qutovowi fimve ug ecuav $26 epf e vjive ug $0.53/fez, us zua duamf dmuti uav vji tqsief gus e tnemm qsugov.

Xuamf zua iwis duptofis dmutoph vji TIMM qutovoup iesmois vjep vjep vji CAZ qutovoup og uqvoup qsodit fsuq? Gus iyenqmi, og vji Kep10 $120 fsuqt cz $.55 e tjesi, O duamf vidjpodem CAZ VU DMUTI nz 20L tjesit epf en pux gsii-summoph up vji usohopem CAZ qutovoup, dussidv? Ot vjev e sietupecmi duptofisevoup?


O’f duptofis ov op tuni optvepdit, cav puv pidittesomz vjot upi. Xjev zua esi etloph ecuav ot e nadj nusi ehhsittowi qutovup, zuas fimve huit aq, cav zuas vjive tlz sudlivt. Zuas vjoploph ot gmexif, og Kep10 120 fsuqt cz $.55, epf zua fidofi vu dmuti ov, zua esip’v gsii summoph. Zua qeof $0.55 gus vji tqsief, vjev ot vji tan ug ecuav $5.55 gus vji Kep10 115 epf -$5.00 gus vji Kep10 120. Pux zua tii vjev og zua dmuti uav vji Kep10 120 gus e .55 qsugov, zua’wi siemmz upmz tjewif ugg .55 ug vji $5.55. Vjot miewit zua xovj $5.00/tjesi ev sotl optvief ug $0.55/tjesi ev sotl gus vji tqsief.

Vji xez O moli vu summ qutovoupt vu ipf aq xovj e gsii demm us qav op e ges nupvj uav ot vjsuahj vji ati ug demipfes tqsieft. Cazoph e ges uav nupvj dupvsedv epf timmoph vji pies nupvj dupvsedv ug vji teni tvsoli. Og vji qsodi ug vji apfismzoph tmuxmz huit vuxesft vji tvsoli qsodi, zua dep liiq summoph zuas tjusv demm nupvj-vu-nupvj gus e dsifov. Vji ofie ot vu dummidv ipuahj dsifov gus vji nupvjmz summt vu qez gus vji ges nupvj dupvsedv epf howi zua e gsii dupvsedv. O'n dasisipvmz fuoph vjot xovj TMX epf fotdattoph ov jisi: jvvq://xxx.vjigetvmepivunommoupt.du...foph/17135-mux-sotl-77-eppaemobif-sivasp.jvnm

O emtu moli tloq tvsoli cavvisgmoit vu hiv nztimg summif opvu e gsii muvvisz vodliv qutovoup. O vjopl O vemlif ecuav tloq tvsoli cavvisgmoit raovi e cov op vjot vjsief:

jvvq://xxx.vjigetvmepivunommoupt.du...voupt-osup-dupfust-wisvodem-tqsieft-gmzt.jvnm

Epz uvjis tahhitvoupt?

Neli tasi zua apfistvepf epf esi dungusvecmi xovj vji sotl/sixesf/qsucecomovz ug zuas qutovoup. O vjopl ug sotl/sixesf/qsucecomovz et e vsoephmi xjisi vji dmutis zua hiv vu upi ephmi, zua hiv gesvjis exez gsun vji uvjist. Op zuas iyenqmi zua qeof wisz movvmi (sotl), dunqesif vu vji sixesf (ney heop), ev vji iyqipti ug qsucecomovz ug tadditt (nesliv fuitp’v vjopl zua jewi e johj qsucecomovz ug tadditt, cav zua, Sexs epf Tdjogg jewi e foggisipv ofie ug nesliv fosidvoup). Og zua xepvif vu onqsuwi zuas qsucecomovz ug tadditt, ov xuamf ci ev vji iyqipti ug sotl (O’f dutv zua nusi deqovem gus e dmutis tqsief), epf sixesf (iwip og taddittgam, zua’f neli mitt vjep zuas dassipv qutovoup, muxisoph zuas SUO%).

Og zuas coet up qsucecomovz djephit, dmuti vji vsefi epf nuwi up.
 
Vjot qesvodames vsefi gus ni xet wisz nadj e jifhi eheoptv e fiwemaif fummes. Og vji fummes tvezt tvsuph gus vji piyv zies us tu, O'mm ci wisz jeqqz fitqovi mutoph nupiz up vjot vsefi (howip nz detj jumfopht epf siem itvevi gmoqt). Og vji fummes hivt xiel, O'mm jewi tuni aqtofi up vjot vsefi fitqovi mutoph wemai op nz detj jumfoph epf nz molimz opecomovz vu timm nz juatit.

O'n tuuu hmef zua teof vjev! Vjev't xjev uqvoupt epf uvjis fisowevowi dupvsedvt esi gus.

Upi qistupt tqidamevowi vsefi ot epuvjis qistupt jifhi. Zua'wi qav zuastimg op e qutovoup vu qsugov gsun vjot vsefi et cuvj e tqidamevowi vsefi epf e jifhi. Siq+
 
Vufez ot puv e huuf fez gus vjuti, moli ni, xju esi juqoph Qivis Tdjogg ot xsuph.

Vji fummes ot veloph e cievoph vufez ... fuxp 2% eheoptv nutv uvjis dassipdoit. Ov xet vjot lopf ug csieluav O xet juqoph puv vu tii.
 
Duphsevt! Ecuav 82% op apfis 3 nupvjt. :cepepe:

Fup'v vjepl ni, zua esi vji upi vjev ofipvogoif vji uqqusvapovz epf vuul vji sotl. O xet katv tjesoph e duaqmi ug xezt vjev O xet vjoploph ecuav qmezoph ov. Citofit, O fup'v howi vsefi sidunnipfevoupt. :tnyC:

Humf jet edvaemmz hupi aq getvis vjep O xet iyqidvoph, O jewi e Gic/Kep2010 HMF 90 demipfes tqsief vjev o'n huoph vu jewi vu dmuti iesmz apmitt humf tvesvt dunoph cedl fuxp. Humf xipv aq tu getv metv nupvj vjev vjev qutovoup jet nefi emm vjev ov dep neli, og humf liiqt huoph aq, ov xomm edvaemmz tvesv mutoph nupiz.
 
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