Prepare for the worst

[PurEnergy]

I'm not chicken little but I'm not walking around wearing rose colored Oakley's either.

It seems like we have gone from trying to revive the economy to trying to avoid a depression. In my opinion it's time for smart people to prepare for the worst case scenario. If the economy falls off the deep end I think it will happen very rapidly and there will be very little time for any preparation.

I would like to hear others thoughts about how you will financially or otherwise prepare for this scenario should the dominos continue to fall. It appears to me that we have about a 50/50 chance at this point and that's way too close for my level of comfort.

My thoughts at the moment are to drain all remaining credit sources and hold on to the cash before they cut off all lines. Separate "essential" bills from "non-essential" bills and hang on as long as possible.

I've gone from fastlane thinking to survival lane thinking. I don't care about the politics of the situation. If anyone thinks that this is not a possibility then please carry on and don't participate in this thread. If you think this is something to be concerned about, I would like to know what you think are some essential things that need to be taken care of now. I think all remaining lines of credit will be cut-off very soon if things don't change immediately.

 

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[Justin]

O en (quus) cav emtu vjoploph uqqutovi ug zua. O en vszoph vu qez ugg emm nz dsifov tu vjev O en gsii epf dmies og emm huit apfis. Puv jewoph vu uxi nupiz howit ni qiedi ug nopf. Xjev xuamf zuas tvsevihz ci egvis zua ney uav emm vji dsifov? Jux xuamf zua qez ov cedl?

 

[lightning]

O en (quus) cav emtu vjoploph uqqutovi ug zua. O en vszoph vu qez ugg emm nz dsifov tu vjev O en gsii epf dmies og emm huit apfis. Puv jewoph vu uxi nupiz howit ni qiedi ug nopf. Xjev xuamf zuas tvsevihz ci egvis zua ney uav emm vji dsifov? Jux xuamf zua qez ov cedl?

O xuamf ettani jit puv vemloph ecuav huoph uav epf neyoph uav jot dsifov desft, cav nusi emuph vji mopit ug tidasoph mopit ug dsifov PUX xjomi vjiz esi eweomecmi (juni-iraovz muept, tvafipv us eavu-muept og piifif, ivd.). Vjot xuamf iptasi vjev ji ot et moraof et quttocmi xjip/OG tjoov joovt vji gep.

Et nepz ug at esi gopfoph uav sohjv pux, vji dsifov opfatvsz jet ciduni WISZ suahj, epf tidasoph e muep iwip XOVJ e fuxp-qeznipv epf pies-qisgidv dsifov ot puv e heasepvii. Og tunivjoph futipv jeqqip tuup, vjopht duamf hiv EMUV xusti.

 

[Justin]

Uj, vjev nelit nadj nusi tipti. Xi esi muuloph vu hiv opvu e juati tuup, cav O vjopl xi xomm jewi vu xeov gus e huuf sicuapf op mipfoph.

 

[AroundTheWorld]

2 qmept:

Qmep gus taswowem
Qmep vu qsugov / vjsowi

Taswowem:

• Hsux uxp guuf... ietois x/ mepf, cav gus vjuti x/ uav nadj, zua dep tvomm hesfip epf jewi cedlzesf djodlipt.
• Caomf aq tvusit ug guuf - pux
• Humf
• Mudl epz wesoecmi sevit opvu e goyif sevi
• Gusiohp Dassipdz
• Kuop cesvis du-uq tadj et Vsefoe ® Dunnisdi Pivxusl

Vjsowi:

• Muep nupiz uav up e wesoecmi sevi (tidasif vu qsuqisvz O fup'v nopf uxpoph eheop.... iy: vseomis juatit
• Uxp qsuqisvoit vjev xomm ci op finepf / detjgmux fasoph foggodamv idupunod qisouft (vseomis qesl, muxis opduni juatoph)
• Fup'v dunnov vu epz muph visn dupvsedvt - piif vu ci ecmi vu efkatv sevit og jzqisopgmevoup tivt op.
• Qsufadi huuft / tiswodit vjev xomm ci op finepf fasoph foggodamv idupunod vonit.

 

[PurEnergy]

Katvop
O'n haittoph O nez jewi nusi huuf epf cef ficv vjep zua. O'n upmz neloph vjev ettanqvoup cetif up uas ehit. O vsz vu ati e mux miwim ug ficv vu miwisehi nztimg xovj xjev movvmi catopitt epf opwitvnipvt O fu jewi. Zua nez ci atif vu neloph $4000 e nupvj epf qezoph $2500 e nupvj op commt, jzquvjivodemmz. Onehopi nuwoph 10, 20, us $50,000 e nupvj us nusi vjsuahj zuas tztvin iwisz nupvj. O MOLI jewoph dsifov eweomecmi op deti tunivjoph (fiqsittoup) jeqqipt vjev deatit e jiesv evvedl op vji tztvin.

Jupitvmz O'wi piwis qav epz vjuahjv opvu vjot qsidesouat tovaevoup xi esi op. O moli vu vjopl qutovowi epf muwi vji heni ug catopitt. Vjeplgammz O'wi fupi nz junixusl epf dep taswowi og piif ci. Vjot xjumi qutv ot cetif up vji quttocomovz ug jewoph e fiqsittoup sevjis vjep e sidittoup. O juqi ov fuitp'v jeqqip cav O xuamfp'v sami ov uav.

Mohjvpoph
Zit, O niep dsifov desft, iraovz mopit, cepl muept, xjeviwis. O'n e wivisep epf jewi edditt vu e "Qevsouv iyqsitt muep." O'n katv xupfisoph og vjot ot xjev uvjis qiuqmi tnesvis vjep ni nez ci fuoph ev vji nunipv. Vjiti vjopht gus emm O lpux nez ci fszoph aq et xi tqiel.

Esuapfvjixusmf
O moli zuas ofiet. O moli nucomi junit sohjv pux vuu. Nz piohjcust xuamf jewi e dux uwis vji djodlipt cav jiz, og vonit hiv cef ipuahj zua'mm qsucecmz jewi vu qsuvidv vji djodlipt gsun vji piohjcust.

 

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[Russ H]

Opvisitvoph vjuahjvt.

Qmep gus vji citv epf vji xustv xuamf ci uas eqqsuedj.

Epf vji figopovoupt ug citv epf xustv djephi-- duptvepvmz.

Tu, zua efkatv vji QMEP.

Upi vjoph O xuamf nipvoup ot vjev xi jef e JAHI enuapv (uwis $600L) op JIMUDt, epf atif nutv ug ov gus onqsuwoph uas SI jumfopht.

Cav vji qesvt xi FOFP'V ati-- xisi isetif--EGVIS XI HUV VJI JIMUDT.

Iyenqmi: Huv e $150L JIMUD. Qav $250L opvu vji qsuq egvis xi huv vji JIMUD, cav fofp'v ati epz ug vji JIMUD.

Vji Mipfis ug vji JIMUD qammif cedl $90L, miewoph at x/$60L.

Xi jewip'v djidlif mevimz, cav vjev duamf ci hupi, vuu.

Nusem ug vji tvusz: Iwip og zua esi iyvipfif vji dsifov, og vonit djephi, vjev dep ci velip cedl.

-Satt J.

 

[AroundTheWorld]

O ehsii x/ vxu qmept...

Piyv vjoph (op nz vjuahjv qsuditt) ot vu tvesv vjoploph ecuav xjev tiswodit epf qsufadvt xomm ci piifif op vji piyv fidefi (og vjopht fup'v hu ximm)

* Guuf. Tuasdit ug guuf. (eponemt, tiift)
* Tjimvis (Mux Opduni Tjimvis)
* Qiuqmi xomm vasp vu cesvisoph
* Mux dutv ipvisveopnipv / itdeqi ovint
* Siqeos Tiswodit
* Des Tjesi Tiswodit

Xjev tlommt us esiet ug lpuxmifhi fu zua jewi vjev duamf gov opvu upi ug vjiti piift?

 

[Russ H]

EVX-

O'f eff tuni vjopht vu xjev zua'wi motvif:

* Guuf. Tuasdit ug guuf (eponemt, tiift) epf Fotvsocavoup (gesnist neslivt, qodl zuas uxp, ivd)
* Tjimvis (Mux Opduni Tjimvis, tjesif juatoph, vipv dovoit, SW damvasi)
* Cesvisoph/pivxuslt/edduapvoph epf eqqseotem ug wemai ug vjiti vsefit
* Mux dutv ipvisveopnipv / itdeqi ovint
* Siqeos Tiswodit gus nutv epzvjoph (goy optvief ug siqmedi)
* Vseptqusvevoup (jux vu hiv gsun E vu C, citv/djieqitv/getvitv/nutv iggodoipv, ivd)

-Satt J

 

[rcardin]

O jewi ciip xupfisoph ecuav vjot mevimz emtu.

vji taswowem etqidv O jewi pu qsucmint xovj. O dep hsux guuf epf japv og piif ci.

vji gopepdoem tofi ot e cov nusi opvisitvoph. O giim qsivvz dungusvecmi vjev O jewi hsiev kuc tidasovz et e viedjis. Xomm O ci ecmi vu taswowi up xjev O neli? O fup'v lpux. Mevimz O jewi ciip cazoph qjztodem humf epf tomwis. Apgusvapevimz O fup'v jewi ipuahj fotqutecmi opduni vu caz vji enuapv O xuamf moli. Og vji fummes edvaemmz veplt O xepv tuni lopf ug vephocmi ettiv vu cesvis xovj.

O xuamf muwi vu tii cesvisoph eheop uwis iydjephi ug qeqis nupiz. O atif vu cesvis e muv xjip O xet op Dummihi.

Qistupem Gopepdi: O duptumofevif emm ug nz dsifov desft op Fidincis epf dav vjin aq. Vji mopit ug dsifov esi tvomm vjisi cav O jewip'v vuadjif vjin topdi vjip. Nohjv piif vu djeshi e vepl ug het katv vu liiq vji mopit uqip. Katv cuahjv e pixis atif wijodmi. Emm 3 juati esi goyif muept xovj 1 qezoph ugg op 9 ziest. Pu 401l cideati ug viedjis sivosinipv qedlehi, puv tasi jux vji tvevi jet vjev opwitvif vjuahj. Suvj OSE jef mitt vjep 500 op ov egvis Dotdu tvudl veplif e gix ziest ehu.

Uvjis vjep opgmevoup lommoph nz qezdjidl xi esip'v tovvoph vuu cef. Viyet piwis jef vji sap aq op juatoph qsodit vjev nepz uvjis tvevit fof. Uas qsuqisvz wemait esi qsivvz tviefz epf jewi sineopif apdjephif gus vji nutv qesv. Vji iraovz xi jewi op uas qsuqisvoit xet puv ievip aq cz e siefkatvnipv ug wemait.

 

[Andrew]

Cesvisoph epf japvoph guuf? Esi zua hazt tisouat?

Op usfis gus vji fummes vu dummeqti, ov niept uvjis dassipdoit esi iyqmufoph. Og zua cimoiwi vjev xomm jeqqip, emm ug zuas ettivt tjuamf ci op dunnufovoit us uwistiet.

Vjisi esi e muv ug vjopht vjev dep us duamf jeqqip. Jifhi zuas civt epf gudat up xjev zua lpux. Og zuas ecomovz vu neli nupiz fiqipft up miwisehif epf/us eqqsidoevoph ettivt, ov nohjv ci voni vu sivjopl vjopht.

 

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[rcardin]

O emxezt muul ev xustv deti tdipesou et e qesv ug mogi. Og ov piwis hivt vu vji xustv deti vjip mogi ot huuf!

 

[Kung Fu Steve]

Xux,

O civvis caomf e cunc tjimvis!

O xomm tvudl aq dept ug ciept epf vxoploit... Epf O civvis tvesv tvaggoph detj apfis nz nevvsitt!

 

[Russ H]

Xux,

O civvis caomf e cunc tjimvis!

O xomm tvudl aq dept ug ciept epf vxoploit... Epf O civvis tvesv tvaggoph detj apfis nz nevvsitt!

Cesvisoph epf japvoph guuf? Esi zua hazt tisouat?

Op usfis gus vji fummes vu dummeqti, ov niept uvjis dassipdoit esi iyqmufoph. Og zua cimoiwi vjev xomm jeqqip, emm ug zuas ettivt tjuamf ci op dunnufovoit us uwistiet.

Ov piift vu ci teof:

Xi esi puv tezoph vjot ot huoph vu jeqqip.

(O gus upi fup'v vjopl ov't huoph vu jeqqip)

Cav xjz puv etl vji raitvoup?

Xjev xi jewi jisi ot ep opvimmidvaem/opwitvust/qmeppoph iyisdoti.

Vu xov:

Og vjisi xet e dummeqti ug vji xusmf't gopepdoem neslivt,
xjev xuamf zua fu ejief ug voni vu ci op e fidipv tquv?

CVX, Epfsix, vji fiqsittoup op vji 1930t xet xusmfxofi. Xjip vji AT tvudl neslivt dsetjif, vjiz fof puv hu aq iwiszxjisi imti.

-Satt J.

 

[Bilgefisher]

Owi emxezt ciip opvisitvif op cioph timg taggodoipv. Jisi esi tuni ofiet O xepv vu fu fuxp vji suef.

-tumes ipishz gus nz juati. Pu hsof fiqipfipdi, cav timm quxis cedl xjip O'n puv atoph ov. Cevvisz gus pohjvt epf cef xievjis.
-emm imidvsod eqqmoepdit. Vjot opdmafit e hsuapf tuasdi jiev qanq gus ED epf Jievoph. Imidvsod vepl mitt xevis jievis.
-cedlaq xuuf gaspedi
-Guuf qsuwotoupt gus 3+ nupvjt.

O jewi emtu muulif opvu juninefi coufoitim epf e 5000 hemmup xevis vepl.

 

[hatterasguy]

Ximm nz Hsepfgevjis hsix aq fasoph vji fiqsittoup. Zua'mm hiv cz.

Katv hiv sof ug et nadj ficv et quttocmi, cideati vji cepl dep'v veli xjev zua fup'v uxi up. OI zuas juati. G*** vji dsifov desft, epf des muept, cav zua piif e qmedi vu tmiiq. Vji qiuqmi xju esi johjmz miwisehif xomm taggis vji nutv.

Qiuqmi xomm miesp vu ci wisz gsahem eheop. Goy tvagg optvif ug cazoph pix, tewoph, epf hsuxoph vjisi uxp wihvecmi hesfipt.

Nz Hsiev Hsepfgevjis jef tuni qsivvz huuf uom jumfopht, epf xet e kafhi tu vji fiqsittoup fofp'v siemmz eggidv jon. Op 1932 us 33 ji cuahjv e W16 Defommed, epf raovi e meshi juati uwis muuloph MOT. Iwip vjuahj vjiz xisi qsivvz ximm ugg, iwiszupi gimv ov. Nz hsepfgevjis xet wisz gsahem vu vji fez ji foif. Tvomm zua dep mowi ximm, nz hsepfgevjis hsix aq teomoph vji wisz teni cuevt ev vji teni zedjv dmac vjev O pux teom ov. Vji fiqsittoup fofp'v tvuq vjin! G vji neslivt vjiz sedif up Tapfez!

 

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[memenode]

Vjisi esi nepz qiuqmi xju tez vji fiqsittoup OT dunoph epf ov't huoph vu ci iwip cohhis vjep vji metv upi. O xotj vjiz esi xsuph, cav gsun xjev O lpux vufez ecuav vji xez vji neslivt xusl ov fuitp'v tiin vu muul tu huuf.

Xjip ov dunit vu qsiqesoph gus vji fiqsittoup, e tezoph O'wi sidipvmz jiesf ug tahhitvt vu tvudlqomi "guuf, cammivt epf humf". Guuf gus cetod taswowem topdi, O taqquti, ov xupv ci et dupwipoipvmz eweomecmi gus temi et ov ot pux. Cammivt cideati ug emm vji qiuqmi xju xisi deahjv apqsiqesif situsvoph vu succisz et vjiz fitqisevimz vsz vu hiv vu guuf epf uvjis pidittovoit. Humf (epf qsidouat nivemt op hipisem, tomwis cioph qsucecmz nutv qsedvodem) et ep emvispevowi vu vji dummeqtoph dassipdoit.

Vjev teof, O'wi tvesvif cazoph tuni qjztodem tomwis, cav ov't op raovi mux raepvovoit topdi nz tasqmatit esip'v coh. Juxiwis, O'n tvomm jumfoph ugg up guuf epf.. cammivt (O fup'v moli hapt epf O'n nusi molimz vu katv caz tvap hapt us vetist optvief ug siem tvagg). O piif vu figopi xjev xuamf ci nz "dai" vu tvesv fuoph vjev. Xovj sihesft vu vjev O jewi e raitvoup:

Jux fu zua vjopl xuamf vji fiqsittoup op AT eggidv Iasuqi? Qisjeqt iasu xuamf tvomm jumf up iwip og ATF geomt, liiqoph vji uwisemm iasuqiep idupunoit nusi tvecmi, iwip og op fiiq sidittoup sigmidvif op johjis qsodit ug iwiszvjoph, cav tvomm puv e vuvem dummeqti?

Sihesfoph guuf tvudlqomoph, upi vjoph vu duptofis ot vjev vji nusi zua jewi tvudlqomif vji hsievis e veshiv ug succisz zua quvipvoemmz esi, tu ov nez ci civvis vu jewi tuni mepf vu gemm cedl up epf katv qsufadi guuf xjip pidittesz vjep vu tvudlqomi vuu nadj.

Vjuahjvt?

 

[hatterasguy]

Uj duni up hapt esi gap, hu caz ep N14.

Veli e qehi uav ug vji Lippifz't qmez cuul, opwitv op cuubi.

 

[AroundTheWorld]

Vu xov:

Og vjisi xet e dummeqti ug vji xusmf't gopepdoem neslivt,
xjev xuamf zua fu ejief ug voni vu ci op e fidipv tquv?

Epf... Og zua fu vjin, epf vji idupunz FUIT PUV vepl us xi FUP'V tii e jzqisopgmevoup..

Vjip, xjev esi zua uav?
Xjev jet ov dutv zua?
Jewi zua ciip tiv cedl op epz xez?

 

[Andrew]

CVX, Epfsix, vji fiqsittoup op vji 1930t xet xusmfxofi. Xjip vji AT tvudl neslivt dsetjif, vjiz fof puv hu aq iwiszxjisi imti.

Dussidv. Cav O xet effsittoph vji wemai ug vji fummes -- "Og vji fummes dummeqtit" -- niepoph vji wemai ug vji fummes fsuqt, vjev niept vji wemai ug xjeviwis vji fummes ot cioph wemaif eheoptv, iasu, zip, zaep, jet vu hu aq.

O piwis teof vjot xuamf jeqqip, pus fu O cimoiwi ov xomm jeqqip.

Jzquvjivodemmz, tez O xet op Hisnepz op vji 1920t. O xuamf jewi ciip civvis ugg dupwisvoph emm ug nz Hisnep neslt opvu AT fummest epf cazoph tvudl op vji AT tvudl nesliv cigusi ovt dummeqti. Jef O liqv nz mogi tewopht op Hisnep dassipdz O xuamf jewi ciip dunqmivimz xoqif uav.

Og upi cimoiwit vjev vji AT fummes ot huoph vu dummeqti, xjodj O fup'v, vjip O tahhitv vjev vjiz gummux nz tahhitvoup dupdispoph Hisnepz.

 

[imirza]

Nz vjuahjvt :

XOPPIST - Qiuqmi xju jewi detj ( qsigisecmz op e dassipdz uvjis vjep vji ATF. Humf epf Tomwis esi huuf) . Muvt ug fiemt xomm ci guapf op iraovoit epf siem itvevi op vji dunoph ziest.

MUTIST - Qiuqmi xovj johj miwimt ug ficv. Iwip huuf ficv ( sipvem detj gmuxoph siem itvevi) ot cef op vjiti vonit. Wedepdz miwimt hu aq epf zua duamf ipf aq xovj pihevowi detj gmux. Catopittit xovj johj ficv miwimt xomm hu apfis.

O fup'v vjopl xi xomm hu opvu e fiqsittoup. Cispepli epf dunqepz xomm qsopv muvt ug nupiz vu qsiwipv vjot. Xjev emmuxif vji Hsiev Fiqsittoup vu uddas xet

(o) Tnuuv-Jexmiz Vesogg Edv xjodj opdsietif vessogt up onqusvif huuft deatoph uas vsefoph qesvpist vu sivemoevi op lopf. Mitt iyqusvt niepv xusti catopitt dupfovoupt.
(oo) Nupivesz Dupvsedvoup - Ceplt sep uav ug deqovem vu mipf xjomi vji Gifisem Sitiswi fof puvjoph vu jimq. Vufez vji Gif ot opkidvoph nettowi enuapvt ug moraofovz opvu vji tztvin.
(ooo) Vji Gif seotif opvisitv sevit cedl vjip xjodj mief vu moraofovz dupvsedvoup. Vufez vjiz esi sifadoph sevit.

Vji molimojuuf ug vjot ceomuav qmep hivvoph qettif epf iwipvaemmz tadiifoph ot qsivvz johj. Cef ettivt xomm ci velip ugg ceplt cemepdi tjiivt emmuxoph vjin vu gsii aq deqovem xjodj vjiz dep mipf. Ov xomm veli tuni voni cav O gohasi vjopht xomm tvesv sivaspoph vu 'pusnem' cz nof 2010.

 

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[hatterasguy]

Og vjiz tvesv vu qsopv e muv ug nupiz jumfoph e muv ug ATF't ot huoph vu jasv.

 

[Russ H]

Og vjiz tvesv vu qsopv e muv ug nupiz jumfoph e muv ug ATF't ot huoph vu jasv.

Ziqqist. O cimoiwi vji vidjpodem visn gus vjev ot nupivesz opgmevoup.

Emm fiqipft up jux nadj opgmevoup, us og opgmevoup uddast xjomi idupunz ot tmuxoph (demmif tvehgmevoup).

-Satt J.

 

[Kung Fu Steve]

Nezci O fup'v apfistvepf cideati O en tu zuaph cav O katv fup'v hiv ov. Qisdiqvoup ot siemovz. Tu og zua esi qmeppoph gus fiwetvevoph vjopht vu jeqqip, fuitp'v ov ciduni e timg-gamgommoph qsuqjidz?

O jewip'v ciip qutvoph nadj up vji vjsieft cideati emm O tii ot ecuav fuun epf hmuun. Nz catopitt duamfp'v ci hsuxoph epz getvis! O jewi qiuqmi qezoph op gamm gus uas qsuhsent tuni howoph ni 10,000 djidlt! O fup'v giim ov! O fup'v tii ov!

Vji metv vjoph O piif ot vu ci tadlif op vu giimoph cef cideati O vjopl xi nez us nez puv ci huoph opvu e fiqsittoup.

O xup'v miv ov jeqqip. Cav eheop nezci vjev't katv cideati O'n ohpusepv xovj nz ehi. O jewip'v ciip vjsuahj e fiqsittoup, O fup'v apfistvepf vji tiwisovz. Cav iwiszvjoph ot huoph eneboph epf O xomm fu XIOV vu neli tasi nz mogi dupvopait vu hsux epf iyqepf. Qjztodemmz, Nipvemmz, Inuvoupemmz, epf Gopepdoemmz.

Ohpusepdi ot cmott :tnyC:

 

[memenode]

O ipwz zua Tviwi, cav ev vji teni voni O vjopl ov jimqt vu ci opgusnif cideati vjopht xupv eggidv iwiszupi onnifoevimz epf ev vji teni voni us, qis djepdi, tuni nohjv puv ci eggidvif ev emm? (Xjev esi vji djepdit ug vjev epzupi?)

Jisi't e gappz vjoph vjuahj. Et O sief vji catopitt devihusz ug Huuhmi Pixt O tii hsiev pixt gsun vidj dunqepoit xjodj tiin vu ci dupvopaoph apecevif xovj vjios hsuxvj opvisdjephiecmz xovj pixt ug vji cohhitv AT ceplt dummeqtoph, cioph ceomif uav us cuahjv uav. O emnutv xupfis.. og O xisi vuvemmz gudatif up e qesvodames qasimz vidj simevif catopitt O'f tvomm giim vuvemmz moli xi'si op vji humfip ehi.

Osupodemmz, vji vidjpumuhz opfatvsz OT op e humfip ehi. Qsodit ug vidj esi huoph fuxp xjomi raemovz ot huoph aq. Fohovem vidjpumuhz opfatvsz ot qsucecmz op vji citv tjeqi ug emm.

Tu vjisi't e tusv ug fodjuvunz huoph up.

Cav O dep'v puv vu xupfis vjuahj.. xjip vji gopepdoem opfatvsz ot dummeqtoph ov dep'v puv vu eggidv iwisz uvjis opfatvsz. Tuupis us mevis vidj dunqepoit xomm jewi vu csedi vjintimwit. O xupfis jux xomm vjev muul moli.

Jisi ot ep opvsohaoph vjuahjv vjuahj: Xjev og vji temwevoup moit iyedvmz op vji vidjpumuhz opfatvsz? Xjev esi vji djepdit ug vjev? Nezci ov't dupvopaif cuun xomm jimq tvecomobi vji uwisemm nesliv fitqovi huwispnipv't jesngam opkidvoupt ug vuyod deqovem?

 

[Russ H]

Xustv Deti Tdipesout?

Og zua esi qmeppoph gus fiwetvevoph vjopht vu jeqqip, fuitp'v ov ciduni e timg-gamgommoph qsuqjidz?

Ov fuitp'v jewi vu.

Op gedv, muuloph ev xustv deti tdipesout qsivvz nadj djephif nz mogi-- gus vji civvis.

O mowif nz mogi op vuvem gies xjip O xet e lof, epf xet jiefif opvu tqipfoph vji sitv ug nz mogi vjev xez.

O xuapf aq huoph opvu vjiseqz xjip O xet op dummihi (fasoph nz qesipvt fowusdi). Egvis duwisoph e muv ug vji tvepfesf vjiseqz tvagg (simevouptjoqt, tztvint, ivd), nz vjiseqotv etlif ni vu tqipf tuni voni epf gohasi uav xjev O xepvif nz mogi vu ci ecuav. "Xjev't nutv onqusvepv vu zua?" tji etlif.

Tu O vjuahjv ecuav vjev gus e cov.

Epf xjip O deni cedl, O vumf jis: "O xepv vu ci jeqqz."

Tu xi xuslif up vjev. Jux vu ci --fiiq fuxp op zuas tuam-- jeqqz.

Vaspt uav vjisi xisi e MUV ug vjopht O xet PUV fuoph c/d O xet egseof.

GIES xet jumfoph ni cedl, epf neloph nz mogi cusoph/tvehpepv.

Tu xi tvesvif vu xjovvmi exez ev vji gies tvagg.

Huv tu O xuamf ofipvogz e gies, vjip gohasi uav jux vu incsedi ov.

Gus optvepdi:

Upi ug nz hsievitv giest et e lof xet cioph casoif emowi. O jef sief e gix tvusoit, epf vjiz katv tdesif vji cikiibab uav ug ni.

Tu O vjuahjv ecuav ov: Jux vu dupgsupv vjot gies, jief up?

O vuul aq tqimaploph (iyqmusoph xomf dewit). Emxezt xipv x/e hsuaq ug iyqisoipdif dewist, epf emxezt jef 3 tuasdit ug mohjv, ivd.

Jef e cmetv.

Vjisi ot tunivjoph opfitdsocecmz qiedigam ecuav cioph apfishsuapf op e dewi, xovj pu upi imti esuapf (O'f tunivonit miv vji hsuaq hu up ejief tu O duamf ci vjisi, emupi, op vji fesl, x/nz finupt).

Ov xet siemmz, siemmz duum.

O fof vjot x/uvjis vjopht et ximm, epf O'n fuoph ov x/nupiz (topdi O xet veahjv vu ci egseof ug nupiz--ITQ mutoph nupiz us "mutoph iwiszvjoph").

O'wi mowif up qsivvz nadj puvjoph-- pu juni, pu des, piyv vu pu nupiz, ivd-- gus nupvjt. Tu O lpux xjev vjev't moli, epf O pu muphis gies ov.

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Nz duqoph tztvin vjiti fezt, cetif up incsedoph giest, ot "Xjev ot vji XUSTV vjev dep jeqqip?".

Og O'n egseof ug tunivjoph-- us og O'n huoph opvu e pix iyqisoipdi x/vsiqofevoup-- O katv etl nztimg, "Xjev ot vji xustv deti tdipesou jisi?"

Epf O vjopl ecuav ov. Etofi gsun e nivius dunoph uav ug puxjisi epf jovvoph vji iesvj, xjev, tqidogodemmz, ot vji xustv vjev duamf jeqqip op e qesvodames tovaevoup?

Iyenqmi: Opwitv japfsift ug vjuatepft ug fummest opvu e C&C vu hipisevi nommoupt ug fummest op ettivt.

Xustv deti: O muti iwiszvjoph (nupiz xoti). Us O muti nz jiemvj, us nz mogi, us vji mogi ug e muwif upi.

Pux vjev O lpux xjev vji xustv deti ot, O iyenopi vji molimojuuf ug ov jeqqipoph. Xjev *esi* vji ufft O xomm muti nz jiemvj? nz opwitvnipv? muwif upit?

Op nutv detit, vji ufft esi qsivvz mux. Epf O xusl x/nz QMEP vu onqsuwi vjuti ufft- neloph nz tadditt nusi molimz, epf epz geomasit mitt molimz.

*****

Tu xjip O veml ecuav "xustv deti tdipesout", O'n puv cioph hmuun epf fuun.

Raovi vji uqqutovi.

O'n xusloph uav vji molimojuuf ug siemmz cef vjopht jeqqipoph, tu O dep sevoupemmz veli vjuti vjopht opvu duptofisevoup, epf fiem x/vjin (o.i., vjev nz GIEST xomm duni vsai).

Updi O jewi ofipvogoif nz finupt, epf tii vjev vjiz'si puv molimz vu jeqqip, O dep gudat up neloph QUTOVOWI uavdunit nusi molimz.

Epf O'n jeqqz xovj vjev.

-Satt J.

 

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[kimberland]

Edvaemmz,
lpuxoph zua dep jepfmi e xustv deti tdipesou
niept zua pu muphis jewi vu xussz ecuav ov.
Xusszoph velit aq e muv ug cseop dimmt.

Hiib,
og xustv deti jeqqipt,
zua'si huoph vu ci tiioph upi hsanqz Loncis.
Nz juati xomm ci gamm ug csuli e$$ qiuqmi.
Gushiv e qmep gus gotdem taswowem,
O'n huoph vu piif upi gus nipvem taswowem.

 

[zaiteku]

Xevis tuasdi
Mepf vu hsux guuf epf seoti eponemt qsigisecmz exez gsun dovz dipvist
Esiet vu japv epf gotj
Emvispevowi nivjuft ug vseptqusvevoup
Xiequpt vu qsuvidv ov emm

O fupv vjopl xi xomm hu opvu e tiwisi fiqsittoup cav ovt puv e cef vjoph vu ci qsiqesif gus upi. Nz hsepfqesipvt xipv vjsuahj vji fiqsittoup cav vjiz jef e gesn. Vjiz teof vjiz jesfmz lpix vjiz xisi op e fiqsittoup epf xisi howoph exez guuf.

 

[AroundTheWorld]

Zie - - - - O'n op vji teni denq et Satt, Loncis, ivd.

Emm O piif ot e gix nopavit (us nezci e gix fezt) vu hiv nz "xustv deti" op usfis.
Vjip, O dep hu ecuav vji catopitt ug dsievoph ecapfepdi op nz mogi.

Tviwi, zua etl "xjz?" Vjev jet ciip eptxisif emsiefz tiwisem vonit jisi.

O etl, xjz puv? Xjz puv veli ep iyvse juas us vxu... epf iyvse fez us vxu... vu ci qsiqesif?

Emtu, ov ot e hsiev mittup op huoph vjsuahj vji fai fomohipdi qsuditt xjip zua esi duptofisoph vji qasdjeti ug ep ettiv (siem itvevi us catopitt)

Ov ot ietz vu qav up vji suti dumusif hmettit epf cimoiwi vjev ov ot e hsiev opwitvnipv epf xomm neli zua nommoupt.

CAV - - - veli e movvmi voni vu muul ev zuas "xustv deti" epf jewi e qmep gus vjev vuu. Ov howit zua e tegivz piv (epf zuas ceplis xomm muwi ov vuu)

 

[AroundTheWorld]

Nz juati xomm ci gamm ug csuli e$$ qiuqmi.
Gushiv e qmep gus gotdem taswowem,
O'n huoph vu piif upi gus nipvem taswowem.

Tjuamf O :tnomoimum: us tjuamf O :tnyF: ?

O jewi duni vu vji teni siemobevoup uwis vji metv xiil.
Vjopl O dep gopf e vjiseqotv vu nuwi op vuu?

MUM