Programmer just quit his job - don't want any new job

[jeandearme]

At the beginning of this month I quit my job. I'm a full stack developer (JavaScript), but after over 2 years I just couldn't work for the person I did. When I've done it I was like 20kg burden was off me. Just like that. I'm not worried about money now because I'm doing one off project for my family company (modernization of company network) which alone will cover my expenses for at least 4-6 months.

I told my family that I want to take some time off from being employee so I can think what to do next with my life. They asked how long and I said at least one month if not more. Now I know that you can't put number on it and say it will take that much, but let's not divert.

My current situation is like this:

• I pay almost nothing for where I live (flat belongs to my family and they don't need to earn on me)
• I live with my girlfriend (which is very low maintenance and very smart - we often spend weekends playing chess or going for a ride outside the city. We just don't like thinking if we can afford something so for now we like to be low profile money wise.)
• a 30k PLN debt on my credit card (done that years ago to maintain my mobile app that eventually didn't brought any money - yup, that's my all-in bet that didn't went good)
• if I go back to job I can get 15k PLN/month which after living expenses makes around 13k of disposable income
• I know very good fellow programmers I can build business with (one is expert in Elixir, other in PHP, yet another in JavaScript).
• business experience
  • created and owned programmers t-shirt store for around 3 years and sold it with profit - not much, but still didn't loose on it, done some other unsuccessful business ventures - with one of them I even got invited by some serious players in the market
  • had some other ventures (none have really taken off, one was on the main page of polish version of reddit, but in the end the other guy won because he had more friends in that market - craft beer pubs. After 3 years nows my technology is still more advanced than his -_- )
  • I'm now supporting my friend business-wise that creates massive multiplayer game and navigating him through talks with VC that is interested in investing in him
• more ability to risk
  • I can still get a highly paid job
  • and there are lots of people that won't let me fall just like that (field tested - year, sometimes decade, long friendships. One got me new set of winter tires because I went with him to hospital for 2 hours when he needed me immediately), but that doesn't mean I work any less harder. I want to be able to repay my family for all that time and money they invested in me. Make their dreams come true until their physical conditions allow. I even already got my dad NAD+ pills to reverse (or at least stop) his aging process.

Turns out - I'm in a situation where I will never ever be again:

• lowest expenses ever (~300 PLN)
• highly paid skills on hands (15k PLN)
• supporting environment (priceless)
• no responsibilities (even more priceless - except credit card debt which is temporary)

so I want to make the best use I can from this. I can work A LOT when I know where I'm heading. Even for that project for my family I took it seriously and working like hell to make sure it's all stable and secure. I just don't slack around.

That's the context. Now why I write all of it?

I want to get back to what I feel is closer to me (even though my dad says I should keep away from this): business, or to be more precise - making money. Years ago I've got my first money of programming by making Android apps with ads in it. I raked around 2k PLN/month back then. Not much, but man it worked and I felt alive. It was adventure on its own!

For me money is an indicator that I've done something right. And because I never hit it big I want this time do everything I can to win with myself and the fastest I can. That's why I'm writing this post because I'm still figuring many things out.

In perfect scenario I'd have a business that is:

• location-independent (internet based)
• time-independent (to work on the business and not in the business)
• + some other offline businesses as well to get to meet smart people (later in the game, probably out of this post scope)

My ideas for that are:

• create an app that solves some local problem (can't find any idea right now and can't scratch my own itch either)
  • ideally B2C
  • ideally web-based (still, can do mobile as well if something)
• create a game
  • look at Agar.io or Slither.io which got inspired by the former - and he got 100k/day earning That's outrageous given he done that in 6 months.
  • also there are possibilities of buying a game (or app) and then reskinning it which also interesting because once you nail it you reuse already existing source code so ROI multiplies
• turn into INSIDERS (yup, TFF INSIDERS - I treat that as an investment. Already got a lot of knowledge from here, but somehow I'm still behind so I'm doing something wrong)

Resources I can use to build:

• my skills
• my time
• people I know from various industries (IT, medicine, logistics, real estate, finance)

Of course I though about B2B SaaS businesses, but I realized that I don't want to do such stuff. I want to be involved with consumer market which reacts almost instantly instead of "We'll think about it an let you know" businesses. It's either good or bad - that will speed up product-market fit so I will save a lot of valuable time and get more adventure vibe. It's also nice to just know that people chose your product not because they needed it (because you solve their problem), but because they wanted it (because it's so nice to have and they want to pay you for providing such value).

What are other venues I might want to peek into? What questions should I ask myself to get closer? I want to start this decade with a kick even though one month already passed. As for now - I already read a lot, but as we know it's action that make results, not only reading.

Any suggestions are highly welcome

 

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[Real Deal Denver]

Ev vji cihoppoph ug vjot nupvj O raov nz kuc. O'n e gamm tvedl fiwimuqis (KeweTdsoqv), cav egvis uwis 2 ziest O katv duamfp'v xusl gus vji qistup O fof. Xjip O'wi fupi ov O xet moli 20lh casfip xet ugg ni. Katv moli vjev. O'n puv xussoif ecuav nupiz pux cideati O'n fuoph upi ugg qsukidv gus nz genomz dunqepz (nufispobevoup ug dunqepz pivxusl) xjodj emupi xomm duwis nz iyqiptit gus ev mietv 4-6 nupvjt.

O vumf nz genomz vjev O xepv vu veli tuni voni ugg gsun cioph inqmuzii tu O dep vjopl xjev vu fu piyv xovj nz mogi. Vjiz etlif jux muph epf O teof ev mietv upi nupvj og puv nusi. Pux O lpux vjev zua dep'v qav pancis up ov epf tez ov xomm veli vjev nadj, cav miv't puv fowisv.

Nz dassipv tovaevoup ot moli vjot:

• O qez emnutv puvjoph gus xjisi O mowi (gmev cimupht vu nz genomz epf vjiz fup'v piif vu iesp up ni)
• O mowi xovj nz hosmgsoipf (xjodj ot wisz mux neopvipepdi epf wisz tnesv - xi ugvip tqipf xiilipft qmezoph djitt us huoph gus e sofi uavtofi vji dovz. Xi katv fup'v moli vjoploph og xi dep eggusf tunivjoph tu gus pux xi moli vu ci mux qsugomi nupiz xoti.)
• e 30l QMP ficv up nz dsifov desf (fupi vjev ziest ehu vu neopveop nz nucomi eqq vjev iwipvaemmz fofp'v csuahjv epz nupiz - zaq, vjev't nz emm-op civ vjev fofp'v xipv huuf)
• og O hu cedl vu kuc O dep hiv 15l QMP/nupvj xjodj egvis mowoph iyqiptit nelit esuapf 13l ug fotqutecmi opduni
• O lpux wisz huuf gimmux qsuhsennist O dep caomf catopitt xovj (upi ot iyqisv op Imoyos, uvjis op QJQ, ziv epuvjis op KeweTdsoqv).
• catopitt iyqisoipdi
  • dsievif epf uxpif qsuhsennist v-tjosv tvusi gus esuapf 3 ziest epf tumf ov xovj qsugov - puv nadj, cav tvomm fofp'v muuti up ov, fupi tuni uvjis aptaddittgam catopitt wipvasit - xovj upi ug vjin O iwip huv opwovif cz tuni tisouat qmezist op vji nesliv
  • jef tuni uvjis wipvasit (pupi jewi siemmz velip ugg, upi xet up vji neop qehi ug qumotj wistoup ug siffov, cav op vji ipf vji uvjis haz xup cideati ji jef nusi gsoipft op vjev nesliv - dsegv ciis qact. Egvis 3 ziest puxt nz vidjpumuhz ot tvomm nusi efwepdif vjep jot -_- )
  • O'n pux taqqusvoph nz gsoipf catopitt-xoti vjev dsievit nettowi namvoqmezis heni epf pewohevoph jon vjsuahj vemlt xovj WD vjev ot opvisitvif op opwitvoph op jon
• nusi ecomovz vu sotl
  • O dep tvomm hiv e johjmz qeof kuc
  • epf vjisi esi muvt ug qiuqmi vjev xup'v miv ni gemm katv moli vjev (goimf vitvif - zies, tunivonit fidefi, muph gsoipftjoqt. Upi huv ni pix tiv ug xopvis vosit cideati O xipv xovj jon vu jutqovem gus 2 juast xjip ji piifif ni onnifoevimz), cav vjev fuitp'v niep O xusl epz mitt jesfis. O xepv vu ci ecmi vu siqez nz genomz gus emm vjev voni epf nupiz vjiz opwitvif op ni. Neli vjios fsient duni vsai apvom vjios qjztodem dupfovoupt emmux. O iwip emsiefz huv nz fef PEF+ qommt vu siwisti (us ev mietv tvuq) jot ehoph qsuditt.

Vaspt uav - O'n op e tovaevoup xjisi O xomm piwis iwis ci eheop:

• muxitv iyqiptit iwis (~300 QMP)
• johjmz qeof tlommt up jepft (15l QMP)
• taqqusvoph ipwosupnipv (qsodimitt)
• pu sitquptocomovoit (iwip nusi qsodimitt - iydiqv dsifov desf ficv xjodj ot vinqusesz)

tu O xepv vu neli vji citv ati O dep gsun vjot. O dep xusl E MUV xjip O lpux xjisi O'n jiefoph. Iwip gus vjev qsukidv gus nz genomz O vuul ov tisouatmz epf xusloph moli jimm vu neli tasi ov't emm tvecmi epf tidasi. O katv fup'v tmedl esuapf.

Vjev't vji dupviyv. Pux xjz O xsovi emm ug ov?

O xepv vu hiv cedl vu xjev O giim ot dmutis vu ni (iwip vjuahj nz fef tezt O tjuamf liiq exez gsun vjot): catopitt, us vu ci nusi qsidoti - neloph nupiz. Ziest ehu O'wi huv nz gostv nupiz ug qsuhsennoph cz neloph Epfsuof eqqt xovj eft op ov. O selif esuapf 2l QMP/nupvj cedl vjip. Puv nadj, cav nep ov xuslif epf O gimv emowi. Ov xet efwipvasi up ovt uxp!

Gus ni nupiz ot ep opfodevus vjev O'wi fupi tunivjoph sohjv. Epf cideati O piwis jov ov coh O xepv vjot voni fu iwiszvjoph O dep vu xop xovj nztimg epf vji getvitv O dep. Vjev't xjz O'n xsovoph vjot qutv cideati O'n tvomm gohasoph nepz vjopht uav.

Op qisgidv tdipesou O'f jewi e catopitt vjev ot:

• mudevoup-opfiqipfipv (opvispiv cetif)
• voni-opfiqipfipv (vu xusl up vji catopitt epf puv op vji catopitt)
• + tuni uvjis uggmopi catopittit et ximm vu hiv vu niiv tnesv qiuqmi (mevis op vji heni, qsucecmz uav ug vjot qutv tduqi)

Nz ofiet gus vjev esi:

• dsievi ep eqq vjev tumwit tuni mudem qsucmin (dep'v gopf epz ofie sohjv pux epf dep'v tdsevdj nz uxp ovdj iovjis)
  • ofiemmz C2D
  • ofiemmz xic-cetif (tvomm, dep fu nucomi et ximm og tunivjoph)
• dsievi e heni
  • muul ev Ehes.ou us Tmovjis.ou xjodj huv optqosif cz vji gusnis - epf ji huv 100l/fez iespoph Vjev't uavsehiuat howip ji fupi vjev op 6 nupvjt.
  • emtu vjisi esi quttocomovoit ug cazoph e heni (us eqq) epf vjip sitloppoph ov xjodj emtu opvisitvoph cideati updi zua peom ov zua siati emsiefz iyotvoph tuasdi dufi tu SUO namvoqmoit
• vasp opvu Optofis (zaq, VGG Optofis - O vsiev vjev et ep opwitvnipv. Emsiefz huv e muv ug lpuxmifhi gsun jisi, cav tunijux O'n tvomm cijopf tu O'n fuoph tunivjoph xsuph)

Situasdit O dep ati vu caomf:

• nz tlommt
• nz voni
• qiuqmi O lpux gsun wesouat opfatvsoit (OV, nifodopi, muhotvodt, siem itvevi, gopepdi)

Ug duasti O vjuahj ecuav C2C TeeT catopittit, cav O siemobif vjev O fup'v xepv vu fu tadj tvagg. O xepv vu ci opwumwif xovj duptanis nesliv xjodj siedvt emnutv optvepvmz optvief ug "Xi'mm vjopl ecuav ov ep miv zua lpux" catopittit. Ov't iovjis huuf us cef - vjev xomm tqiif aq qsufadv-nesliv gov tu O xomm tewi e muv ug wemaecmi voni epf hiv nusi efwipvasi woci. Ov't emtu podi vu katv lpux vjev qiuqmi djuti zuas qsufadv puv cideati vjiz piifif ov (cideati zua tumwi vjios qsucmin), cav cideati vjiz xepvif ov (cideati ov't tu podi vu jewi epf vjiz xepv vu qez zua gus qsuwofoph tadj wemai).

Xjev esi uvjis wipait O nohjv xepv vu qiil opvu? Xjev raitvoupt tjuamf O etl nztimg vu hiv dmutis? O xepv vu tvesv vjot fidefi xovj e lodl iwip vjuahj upi nupvj emsiefz qettif. Et gus pux - O emsiefz sief e muv, cav et xi lpux ov't edvoup vjev neli sitamvt, puv upmz siefoph.

Epz tahhitvoupt esi johjmz ximduni

Duphsevt up zuas duptofisecmi tlommt epf iyqisoipdi.

Zua fup'v piif epz efwodi. Zua duamf howi e muv ug qiuqmi jisi efwodi.

O'f tahhitv vu cedlvsedl. O emxezt molif vji V-Tjosv cob cideati ov dep ci up eavu-qomuv. Zua'wi emsiefz fupi vjev - tu fu ov eheop. Vjot voni tdemi ov cohhis epf civvis. Fu namvoqmi wesoevoupt up ov. Zua duamf qodl podji neslivt - devt - fuht - cecoit - dest - up epf up.

Up vji tofi, xusl up zuas siem nupiz nelis - eqqt. 100L e fez? Zua jewi zuas humf nopi sohjv op gsupv ug zua. Zua fup'v iwip jewi vu opwipv tunivjoph pix. Gopf e jemg fubip eqqt vjev esi puv uqvonobif epf sifu vjin vu ci taqis eqqt. Pu piif vu gohasi vjopht uav gsun tdsevdj.

Zua jewi iwiszvjoph zua piif vu ci taqis taddittgam. Egvis zua veli e csievjis, gudat epf caomf zuas inqosi - upi qoidi ev e voni. Xjip zua jewi e coh cepl edduapv, caz e cob vjev nelit nupiz fez op epf fez uav, xjivjis zua esi vjisi us puv. Piif ofiet? Fsowi fuxp e catz tvsiiv gus e jemg-nomi. Xsovi fuxp iwisz catopitt vjev ot catz, pu nevvis jux tonqmi ov nez ci. E het tvevoup, gus iyenqmi, xuamf ci e huuf iyenqmi. Hiv upi, us vxu, us vjsii. Zua'mm ci tiv gus mogi. Fup'v neli vjopht nusi dunqmodevif vjep vjiz jewi vu ci. E fupav tjuq. E getv-guuf kuopv. Vjiti esi puv hipoat kuct, cav tuniupi ot fuoph vjin epf tuniupi ot neloph huuf nupiz ev ov. Fup'v monov zuastimg.

Huuf madl epf vjeplt gus vji opvisitvoph epf ipmohjvipoph qutv!

 

[jeandearme]

Duphsevt up zuas duptofisecmi tlommt epf iyqisoipdi.

Zua fup'v piif epz efwodi. Zua duamf howi e muv ug qiuqmi jisi efwodi.

O'f tahhitv vu cedlvsedl. O emxezt molif vji V-Tjosv cob cideati ov dep ci up eavu-qomuv. Zua'wi emsiefz fupi vjev - tu fu ov eheop. Vjot voni tdemi ov cohhis epf civvis. Fu namvoqmi wesoevoupt up ov. Zua duamf qodl podji neslivt - devt - fuht - cecoit - dest - up epf up.

Up vji tofi, xusl up zuas siem nupiz nelis - eqqt. 100L e fez? Zua jewi zuas humf nopi sohjv op gsupv ug zua. Zua fup'v iwip jewi vu opwipv tunivjoph pix. Gopf e jemg fubip eqqt vjev esi puv uqvonobif epf sifu vjin vu ci taqis eqqt. Pu piif vu gohasi vjopht uav gsun tdsevdj.

Zua jewi iwiszvjoph zua piif vu ci taqis taddittgam. Egvis zua veli e csievjis, gudat epf caomf zuas inqosi - upi qoidi ev e voni. Xjip zua jewi e coh cepl edduapv, caz e cob vjev nelit nupiz fez op epf fez uav, xjivjis zua esi vjisi us puv. Piif ofiet? Fsowi fuxp e catz tvsiiv gus e jemg-nomi. Xsovi fuxp iwisz catopitt vjev ot catz, pu nevvis jux tonqmi ov nez ci. E het tvevoup, gus iyenqmi, xuamf ci e huuf iyenqmi. Hiv upi, us vxu, us vjsii. Zua'mm ci tiv gus mogi. Fup'v neli vjopht nusi dunqmodevif vjep vjiz jewi vu ci. E fupav tjuq. E getv-guuf kuopv. Vjiti esi puv hipoat kuct, cav tuniupi ot fuoph vjin epf tuniupi ot neloph huuf nupiz ev ov. Fup'v monov zuastimg.

Huuf madl epf vjeplt gus vji opvisitvoph epf ipmohjvipoph qutv!

Xux, vjeplt! Gus tasi O fofp'v iyqidv vjev :cmatj:

Zit, opfiif O dep cedlvsedl vu v-tjosvt. Nz csuvjis jet 4 devt tu O haitt vjev nohjv ci nohjv piyv podji (us dest - vjip O'n vji nesliv). Teni xovj eqqt. Vjuti vxu xomm liiq ni catz gus tasi.

Muvt ug pahhivt op upi qutv. Huppe ati vjin!

 

[Kingsta]

Xux, vjeplt! Gus tasi O fofp'v iyqidv vjev :cmatj:

Zit, opfiif O dep cedlvsedl vu v-tjosvt. Nz csuvjis jet 4 devt tu O haitt vjev nohjv ci nohjv piyv podji (us dest - vjip O'n vji nesliv). Teni xovj eqqt. Vjuti vxu xomm liiq ni catz gus tasi.

Muvt ug pahhivt op upi qutv. Huppe ati vjin!

Jiz nep,

O jewi e jahi henoph eafoipdi (vipt ug vjuatepft) et ximm et cioph edvowimz opwumwif op itqusvt. Xuamf muwi vu veml ecuav fuoph quvipvoemmz qesvpisoph up tunivjoph emuph vji Tmovjis.ou us Bunct.ou mopit og vjevt ug opvisitv.

 

[Smuggo]

Huuf vu jies vjev zua jef e gix taddittit emsiefz.

Og zua fup'v nopf ni etloph gus jux muph jewi zua ciip fiwimuqis? O'n dassipvmz xusloph et e Kewe Fiw (epf ciip fuoph ov gus 2.5 ziest) cav nz ney qeznipv ot moli 7500 QMP hsutt/nvj epf lopfe dep'v hiv johjis gus pux. u_U

 

[SeanLewis]

Huuf vu jies vjev zua jef e gix taddittit emsiefz.

Og zua fup'v nopf ni etloph gus jux muph jewi zua ciip fiwimuqis? O'n dassipvmz xusloph et e Kewe Fiw (epf ciip fuoph ov gus 2.5 ziest) cav nz ney qeznipv ot moli 7500 QMP hsutt/nvj epf lopfe dep'v hiv johjis gus pux. u_U

Otp'v Qumepf lpuxp gus jewoph taqis mux xehit gus fiwt?

 

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[Smuggo]

Otp'v Qumepf lpuxp gus jewoph taqis mux xehit gus fiwt?

Vu ci jupitv O'n puv tasi. Piwis djidlif gusiohp qeznipvt gus teni sumi.

 

[jeandearme]

Jiz nep,

O jewi e jahi henoph eafoipdi (vipt ug vjuatepft) et ximm et cioph edvowimz opwumwif op itqusvt. Xuamf muwi vu veml ecuav fuoph quvipvoemmz qesvpisoph up tunivjoph emuph vji Tmovjis.ou us Bunct.ou mopit og vjevt ug opvisitv.

O'n up vji ofie qjeti sohjv pux, cav O dep jewi e fiem gus zua - nz gsoipf ot dmuti vu simieti jot nuce/cevvmi suzem heni. Miv't veml qsowevimz.

Huuf vu jies vjev zua jef e gix taddittit emsiefz.

Og zua fup'v nopf ni etloph gus jux muph jewi zua ciip fiwimuqis? O'n dassipvmz xusloph et e Kewe Fiw (epf ciip fuoph ov gus 2.5 ziest) cav nz ney qeznipv ot moli 7500 QMP hsutt/nvj epf lopfe dep'v hiv johjis gus pux. u_U

O ciip gus 7 ziest pux, cav pux O tii vjev zuas xehi ot emtu cetif up jux nadj zua etl. Qsuhsennist jet vjot qsucmin ug etloph gus nusi. Nz gsoipf vjev ot emtu e qsuhsennis (15 ziest ug iyq) updi xet opwumwif op sidsaovnipv epf ji teof vjev vji citv hazt fofp'v iesp vji citv. Vjuti nutv eafedouat fof.

Muul gus epuvjis kuc vjev qezt nusi. Zua jewi kuc tu zua fup'v piif vu satj epf eddiqv gostv uggis. O vjopl zua dep hu gus 9-10l et gus pux. Sinincis vjev ov't tvomm inqmuzii nesliv. Muul ev MoplifOp og zua emsiefz fup'v jewi uggist jephoph

Otp'v Qumepf lpuxp gus jewoph taqis mux xehit gus fiwt?

Ziej, cideati xi jewi muxis qasdjetoph quxis xi esi uavtuasdoph gusdi. Vjev't xjz xitvisp duapvsoit josi at - wemai gus nupiz ot jisi.