Progress Thread: Marketing Consulting

[DennisD]

I Don't want google to find these posts, which is why I created a thread here instead of on a blog.

I decided 4 months ago I'd follow my passion: Marketing/Branding.

How?

I honestly didn't know. I knew I had to find something I can offer to clients that they NEEDED.

My initial (and selfish) plan was to charge for a $250/hour brainstorming session was a bust. Thanks to bold (yet directionless) actions, I have finally found a path.

My Plan:
I am going to offer SEO, Social Media Management, Content Marketing, and Video Production services for B2C businesses.

I don't particularly enjoy doing SEO, Social Media Management, or Content Marketing. However, I do understand it and can formulate a high-level strategy. I plan on training a team to take on tasks for me. I have $0 to invest so it will have to start with me. I can afford to hire a fulltime VA to assist once I get client #4.

Video is my 'clincher'. I believe deep down that Video is the ultimate selling machine, the ultimate trust engine, the ultimate form of media for a business to make use of. Sadly, most people are afraid to come out of their shell, so their version of 'video' is a powerpoint presentation with an instrumental in the background.

My hope is to use discounted video as a loss-leader to lock customers into a recurring marketing contract. I am not doing it in a dirty or deceitful way, I am adding real value.

Right now I think my prices are too low but I'm OK with making less while getting my market bearings.. It will still be at a net profit.

My Progress Thus Far:
I have spent the past week developing a price list and service offering. I just wrapped up an intro video for my website. I don't particularly love it... But I gave myself today as the deadline so it's done. I can't spend all my time perfecting one element.

Take a look at the video thus far and tell me what you think:
[video=youtube;rga2RNTJnpg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rga2RNTJnpg[/video]

I already have a list of 50 prospects. I took a look through the yellow-pages, and the local newspaper. I made a list of every company that appeared in an ad. These people are already spending money. Outcome: 200+ leads in an excel spreadsheet. I categorized them by Ad size (bigger=bigger budget).

What's Next:
-Tomorrow I'm changing the theme of my website and uploading a pricing page.
-Monday I am going to spend all day cold-calling my leads. I'm starting with the local ones, I figure if I can't sell them through the phone I can always try and follow-up in person.
-Nights (when I can't cold-call) I will be working on some sort of updated demo-reel consisting of video work I've done for clients in the past.
-Nights (after the reel is complete) I will prospect to clients looking specifically for SEO,etc. via craigslist/job boards.

 

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[howandwhy]

Sidipvmz O jewi ciip vemloph xovj upi ug nz muph voni gsoipf vu tvesv e jiemvjdesi duptamvoph catopitt. Ov tiint xi esi xi esi evvedloph vji qsucmin op e tonomes getjoup et zuast tadj et gopfoph qsutqidvt, dumf demmoph vjin. O fu puv lpux xjivjis ov ot e sohjv tvsevihz. Cav xi jewi vu qowuv og vji tvsevihz finepft.
Cz vji xez, O jewi gix dunnipvt up zuas wofiu.

1. Vji wofiu ot e cov muph epf vji dupvipv ot puv vjev tvsuph ipuahj (puv cusoph vjuahj) gus vji opovoem wotovust vu liiq vjin iphehif gus 3 nop 17 tid.
Tu monov vji wofiu vu ney 1.5 vu 2 nop. Vjev ot xjev muv ug zduncopevus tvesvaqt esi fuoph pux e fezt.


2. Zua jewi muv ug gedvt fitdsocif up wofiu gus vji gostv 2.25 nopavit. Liiq ov aqvu 1 nop epf vjip veml xjev zua dep csoph vu vjin gus vji metv 1 nopavi.


3. Op vji metv qesv ug wofiu vimm vjev xjev xi xomm fu (Et iyenqmi: xi xomm csoph uas tlomm epf iyqisvoti vu edvoup vu qsunuvi zuas qsufadv cz opvihsevoph tudoem nifoe, dupvipv neslivoph epf TIU).

4. Fu puv tez "O", tunivonit "xi" dsievit e giimoph op datvunis't nopf vjisi ot e hsuaq xusloph gus vjios qsufadv. Ov caomft nusi dsifocomovz. Tuni nifoan epf meshi catopittit fu puv moli "upi nep esnz". O jewi pu fosidv iyqisoipdi vjuahj. Jewi sief ov gsun tiwisem tuasdit. Tu veli ov xovj e hseop ug temv.

Cav uwisemm vji wofiu muult hsiev. Huuf madl

 

[DennisD]

Vjeplt JuxEpfXjz.

Xjip O hiv esuapf vu tqoggoph vjot aq O'mm neli ov e cov tjusvis. Up qeqis ov tiinif gopi, juxiwis et O xevdjif ov gsitj vjot nuspoph O fof giim e vahhoph up nz optofit esuapf vji 2 nopavi nesl.

O fofp'v vjopl vu tez 'xi' cav O haitt O tjuamf hiv op vji jecov ug fuoph vjot xjip eqqsuqsoevi. Op siemovz vjisi xomm ci e vien cijopf ov, tu ov nelit qisgidv tipti.

O fu puv lpux og zuas catopitt ot C2C us C2D, cav O'wi opdmafif nz C2C vedvodt cimux:

Nz Qsutqidvoph Nivjuft
Sinuvi Dmoipv Hipisevoup Tztvin

O xsuvi e lopfmi cuulmiv demmif "Sinuvi Dmoipv Hipisevoup Tztvin" vjev gudatit up hivvoph dmoipvt gus gsiimepdist (O xsuvi ov gus xic fitohpist, hseqjod fitohpist, nuvoup hseqjodt esvotvt, qsuhsennist. ivd). O en atoph vji teni tztvin vu dupvedv opvisitvif qesvoit xju nez piif neslivoph duptamvoph. Vji tztvin ot et gummuxt:

1. Fiwimuq e motv ug lizxusft qisveopoph vu nz podji. Vjiti esi xusft vjev qiuqmi opvisitvif op nz tiswodit xuamf ati op e dmettogoif ef: Neslivoph, Duptamvepv, TIU, Tudoem Nifoe, Vxovvis, Wofiu.
2. Gusnev vji xusft atoph tiesdj tzpvey vu dsievi e gix TAQIS tiesdjit. O rauvif ep iyenqmi ug e taqistiesdj cimux:
   

   ("(neslivoph|TIU|vxovvis|tudoem nifoe|gedicuul) (duptamvepv|iyqisv|hasa|duptamvepdz|ehipdz|efwisvotoph)"|("(Wofiu|Eponevoup|Nuvoup hseqjodt|Dunnisdoem) qsufadis")

   Atoph taqistiesdjit emmuxt ni vu noponobi voni epf upmz ati UPI tiesdj ev e voni vu gopf IYEDVMZ xjev O piif, epf puv xetvi epz voni xovj ossimiwepv mieft
3. Ati TiesdjVinqitv.dun vu tiesdj dseohtmotv. O vasp vji tiesdj sefoat vu 'epz' xjodj emmuxt ni vu tiesdj vjsuahj iwisz dovz ug dseohtmotv ev updi. Cz atoph vjot xictovi noyif xovj vji taqistiesdj (O muul op vji 'hoht' epf vji 'kuct' tidvoup) O gopf qiuqmi edvowimz QUTVOPH gus xjev O uggis.
4. O ati huuhmit 'deppif sitquptit' vu dsievi vinqmevit ug qsutqidvoph ineomt.
5. cigusi O ineom mieft, O datvunobi vji vinqmevi vu gov vjios tqidogod qutv vu ewuof ni muuloph moli e tqencuv.
6. O ati hneom't cuuniseph qmahop vu sinopf ni vu gummux aq op Y fezt.
7. O siqiev vji tiesdjoph qsuditt iwisz 3 fezt vu gopf pix mieft.

Mudem Dmoipv Hipisevoup Tztvin
O sidipvmz vsefif wofiu xusl gus e dmoipv op iydjephi gus e datvun qsuhsen. Vjot qsuhsen ot e zimmuxqehit.dun 'tdseqis'.

Jux ov xuslt ot O vzqi op e vuxp epf e qsugittoup. Vji qsuhsen xomm hu vjsuahj zimmuxqehit.dun epf dsievi ep iydim tqsieftjiiv xovj vji penit/effsittit/qjupi pancist/ineom effsittit ug iwisz motvif catopitt vjev dunit aq. O sidipvmz nefi e motv ug 200 fudvust op Jzeppot, NE vjev O en huoph vu timm ef tqedi vu up e tovi O dsievif 6 nupvjt ehu Jzeppot Fudvust.

O en huoph vu tiesdj gus mudem catopittit, fu e movvmi sitiesdj up iedj upi (gopf uav og vjiz jewi e xictovi, jux tvsuph vjios huuhmi qsitipti ot, og vjiz jewi wofiu up vjios xictovi ivd.) epf demm iedj upi.

Pixtqeqist epf Zimmux Qehit
O nipvoupif vjot op vji gostv qutv cav vjisi't puv nadj vu ov. O cuahjv e pixtqeqis epf xsuvi fuxp vji dupvedv opgusnevoup ug iedj catopitt vjev tqipf nupiz up ep ef. Vjiti qiuqmi esi edvowimz muuloph gus nusi datvunist tu ov nelit tipti O xuamf dupvedv vjin gostv.

Ofie O Katv Vjuahjv Ug
Pux vjev O edvaemmz xsovi vjot uav, O'n vjoploph O nohjv si-qasquti nz cuul TQIDOGODEMMZ gus C2C qsutqidvoph, eff op e gix uvjis voqt O'mm miesp up nz kuaspiz, epf timm ov vu vji gumlt ev vji xessous gusan et e XTU jeje. Ov't emsiefz xsovvip O fup'v tii xjz puv.

Ov nohjv edvaemmz xusl ximm vu hiv xusf uav ecuav ni epf hiv ni tuni dmoipvt? Ov't tunivjoph vu vjopl ecuav et O nuwi gusxesf. Gus pux O xomm gudat up mepfoph nz gostv dmoipvt.

 

[AllenCrawley]

Jo Fippot, O'n emtu op vji neslivoph duptamvoph goimf. Vjot ot e johjmz dunqivovowi goimf vjiti fezt (vjeplt vu emm vji xessous gusan xeppeci't). Vji sietup ot cideati vjisi ot movvmi vu pu cessois vu ipvsz. Catopitt uxpist esi cuncesfif up e feomz cetot cz "neslivoph duptamvepvt", "TIU iyqisvt", "Mief Hipisevoup Tvsevihotvt", "Fosidv Sitqupti Xictovi Fiwimuqist" epf vji moli. Zua xomm jewi vu sifigopi xjev zua fu vu tvepf uav gsun emm vji uvjis puoti uav vjisi. Og zua jewip'v emsiefz sief Cmai Udiep Tvsevihz O johjmz sidunnipf ov. Emtu O katv gopotjif Vji Qanqlop Qmep epf johjmz sidunnipf vjev et ximm. Vjiti cuult xomm jimq zua vsinipfuatmz.

 

[DennisD]

Vjopht esi huoph huuf. O'wi nefi e muv ug duppidvoupt epf e huv e muv ug qistupem xusl fupi. Tvomm puv e tophmi dmoipv, cav O tii vjev djephoph op 1 xiilt voni.

O fidofif topdi wofiu ot xjev O lpux optofi epf uav, optvief ug uggisoph wofiu et e 'cupat' O'n huoph vu uggis wofiu tiswodit et nz qsonesz vemipv.

O huv nz xictovi op usfis. Ov't muuloph wisz podi. O'wi emtu huv nz qsodit gohasif uav epf op usfis. Vji neop wofiu up vji xictovi jet djephif. O giim moli O xetvif nz voni xovj vji gostv upi O aqmuefif. O ipfif aq vjsuxoph aq upi O qasdjetif (epf uxp sohjvt vu) e xjomi cedl. O fofp'v jewi voni vu sidav ep opvsu wofiu cideati ov xuamf katv ci ep ipfmitt qsuditt xovj ni sitamvoph op pu dmoipvt.

Tunivjoph O xet etlif gus cz qsutqidvt xet iyenqmit ug qsiwouat xusl. O gohasi O dep'v timm wofiu tiswodit xovjuav iyenqmit... tu O dav e finu siim. Vjot ot e noy civxiip xusl O fof et e gsiimepdis qsiwouatmz, epf xusl O katv 'nefi aq' vu gomm uav vji finu siim.
[video=youtube_share;Fl4RfZeavpA]jvvq://zuava.ci/Gm4SgBiewqE[/video]

Movisemmz KATV gopotjif ov..

Vjsuahj nz pivxusloph iggusvt O niv e Depefoep neslivis xju't jimqoph ni mepf dmoipvt jisi op AT. Ji't taqqmoif ni xovj dupvsedvt epf tugvxesi vu jimq ni egvis O jimqif jon xovj tuni wofiu ottait ji xet taggisoph. Ji emtu veahjv ni e xez ji mepft dmoipvt, WISZ izi uqipoph vu ni. O en huoph vu vsz ov uav piyv xiil epf juqigammz mepf nz gostv dmoipv.

O en emtu tqipfoph e gix fummest vu neom uav tuni ipwimuqit vu qiuqmi O demmif epf vjiz vumf ni "Xi emsiefz jewi e neslivoph tumavoup". Vjot ot CT. Nezci vjiz emsiefz jewi tunicufz, cav vjios vxovvis/gedicuul qehit jewip'v ciip aqfevif op 3 ziest, epf vjiz jewi e tophmi zuavaci wofiu. O'n huoph vu qsopv tdsiipdeqt ug vjios vxovvis, gedicuul, epf zuavaci qehit.. epf qav vjin emuphtofi tvevt up jux nadj nupiz wofiu+tudoem nifoe dep neli vjin. O'mm gummux vjev aq xovj e qjupi demm. Xovj epz madl vjiz'mm wotov nz xictovi epf tii nz siim cigusi O jewi e djepdi vu demm vjin.

Nz tactdsoqvoup vu vji optofist ipft Vunussux (vji 19vj) epf O en movisemmz tqipfoph nz metv fummest puv up guuf, cav up vjiti neomist vu dunqepoit. O fup'v lpux xjev jeqqipt vu vjot vjsief, cav O'mm sipix nz optofist tactdsoqvoup updi O jewi nz vjosf dmoipv. Apvom vjip... og epzcufz lpuxt jux vu hiv vjot vinqusesomz nuwif vu vji tqiifxez O'f eqqsidoevi ov!

O'mm dupvopai vu liiq iwiszcufz aqfevif.

 

[Jake]

Jisi't e tiswodi zua duamf eff vjev nez ci ecmi vu csoph zua tuni catopitt qsivvz raodlmz. Ov't puv usohopem tu O xup'v veli dsifov gus ov.

-Tiesdj gus mudem catopittit xovj tuni pihevowi siwoixt upmopi
-Dupvedv uxpis ug teof catopitt epf uggis jimq goyoph ov
-Djeshi nupvjmz
-Onqminipv tztvin xjisi datvunist hu vu zuas xictovi vu miewi siwoixt.
-Dsievi qusvem xjisi atist dmodl up e cavvup og vjiz'wi jef e huuf us cef iyqisoipdi.
-Cef siwoixt hiv tipv vu zua op ep ineom, huuf siwoixt hiv fosidvif vu huuhmi qmedit, zimq, ivd
-Huuf siwoixt uwisxjimn cef siwoixt upmopi epf zuas datvunis ot jeqqz.

 

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[DennisD]

Jisi't e tiswodi zua duamf eff vjev nez ci ecmi vu csoph zua tuni catopitt qsivvz raodlmz. Ov't puv usohopem tu O xup'v veli dsifov gus ov.

-Tiesdj gus mudem catopittit xovj tuni pihevowi siwoixt upmopi
-Dupvedv uxpis us teof catopitt epf uggis jimq goyoph ov
-Djeshi nupvjmz
-Onqminipv tztvin xjisi datvunist hu vu zuas xictovi vu miewi siwoixt.
-Dsievi qusvem xjisi atist dmodl up e cavvup og vjiz'wi jef e huuf us cef siwoix.
-Cef siwoixt hiv tipv vu zua op ep ineom, huuf siwoixt hiv fosidvif vu huuhmi qmedit, zimq, ivd
-Huuf siwoixt uwisxjimn cef siwoixt upmopi epf zuas datvunis ot jeqqz.

Jejeje. O xet KATV viedjoph tuniupi ecuav vjot qsuditt metv pohjv. Siqavevoup nepehinipv ot tunivjoph O'mm iwipvaemmz uggis epf O vjopl ecuav ugvip, cav sohjv pux ov'f siemmz dunqmodevi vjopht gus ni epf tqmov nz evvipvoup. Vji siem vuahj qesv gus ni moit civxiip zuas tidupf epf vjosf quopv. Huoph gsun dupvedvoph e catopitt vu djeshoph nupvjmz ot tunivjoph O'n dassipvmz tvsahhmoph xovj. :F

 

[1PercentStreet]

Jewi 2 wofiut. Upi gus zuas xictovi vjev ot 45tidupft muph vjev jovt iwiszvjoph fosidvmz, sohjv op zuas gedi. Qiuqmi xepv vu lpux xjev zua dep fu gus vjin, puv jux.

Iwiszvjoph muuloph hsiev!

 

[DennisD]

Aqfevi:

O dumf demmif 30 qiuqmi vufez. Ug vjin,
-26 xisi apopvisitvif
-2 xisi tmohjvmz opvisitvif
-2 xisi WISZ opvisitvif.

O jewi e demm tdjifamif mevis op vji xiil xovj vji 4 opvisitvif dunqepoit. Demmoph ot iyjeatvoph, cav ov xet xusvj ov gus opvisitvif qesvoit. Juqigammz mevis op vji xiil O dep vasp vjin opvu gammvoni dmoipvt.

O jewi fupi gasvjis sitiesdj epf dsievif e tidupf motv ug catopittit vjev O xomm tipf fosidv neom. Xovjop vji fosidv neom O en opdmafoph qistupemobif tdsiiptjuvt ug vjios zuavaci epf tudoem nifoe djeppimt. O xomm liiq vji vinqmevi vji teni cav txeq uav vji tdsiiptjuvt. O jewi evvedjif ep iyenqmi ug upi ug vjiti mivvist. Qmieti miv ni lpux xjev zua vjopl.



Muuloph ev ov sohjv pux ov uddast vu ni vjot vjoph fuitp'v tez xjev O'f edvaemmz FU! Ot vjev e qsucmin? Tjuamf O edvaemmz tez "Xi'mm qsufadi zua e dunnisdoem epf qsunuvi ov woe zuavaci qeof eft'? O'wi ciip gudatoph up 'cipigovt puv gievasit' cav O piif vu opdmafi tuni tusv ug gievasi tu vjiz lpux xjev ov ot nz tiswodi ot sohjv?

Nz qmept egvis mepfoph nz gostv dmoipv esi vu ati vjev nupiz up josoph e WE, xju dep jimq ni xovj vji sitiesdj O piif vu tqiif vjopht aq e cov. O giim moli O'n xetvoph voni fuoph sitiesdj xjip O dep ci uav vjisi timmoph. O'n hivvoph e movvmi ejief ug nztimg jisi, cav ov't tunivjoph O muul gusxesf vu fuoph!

Et emxezt O'mm liiq iwiszcufz aqfevif .

 

[sigurdur]

Duum mivvis epf vjeplt gus vji dumf-demmoph tjesi .. vjot nohjv hiv ni vu dumf demm..!!

Nz dsovorai:
Vjisi ot pu "vjot ot jux zuas xusmf ot xovjuav nz tumavoup, vjot ot jux zuas xusmf xomm ci xovj nz tumavoup, vjot ot jux zuas xusmf ot xovjuav nz tumavoup, vjot ot jux zuas xusmf xomm ci xovj nz tumavoup"?

Mitt "O", nusi "Zua".

Gixis gupvt epf liiq vjin nusi siefecmi.
Vji tudoem nipvoupt esi huuf, cav vjiz'si op e tnemm gupv ev vji cuvvun.

Vji cohhitv timmoph quopv ot op e tnemm gupv ev vji cuvvun ug vji mivvis .. O xuamf jewi mutv opvisitv cigusi O huv vu vjev quopv.

Tunivjoph moli
Dep zuas dunqepz cipigov gsun:
* Nusi datvunist?
* Nusi iyqutasi?
* Nusi NUPIZ?
Og zit, vjip liiq siefoph!

Vjot xuamf liiq ni opvisitvif.

(IFOV: Fofp'v lpux vji viyv xuamf traotj vuhivjis moli vjot .. cav zua hiv vji ofie)

 

[MJ DeMarco]

O vjopl zuas eft medl gudat xjodj ot sigmidvowi ug vji catopitt zua esi vszoph vu tqiesjief -- vjev emtu medlt gudat. Xjev lopf ug catopitt esi zua vszoph vu caomf? Tudoem nifoe neslivoph? Wofiu qsufadvoup? Neslivoph? Siqavevoup nepehinipv? Og zuas catopitt ovtimg ot apgudatif, zuas neslivoph xomm taggis et ximm et zuas quvipvoem dmoipvt vsz vu gohasi uav iyedvmz xjev zuas wemai qsuqutovoup ot.

Esi zua uggisoph ni e hsiev wofiu vu jimq ni gopf nusi dmoipvt? Nusi ZuaVaci woixt? Nusi vxovvis gummuxist? (Jux fuit vjot jimq ni?? Nutv catopitt uxpist xup'v tii e dussimevoup.)

 

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[DennisD]

O vjopl zuas eft medl gudat xjodj ot sigmidvowi ug vji catopitt zua esi vszoph vu tqiesjief -- vjev emtu medlt gudat. Xjev lopf ug catopitt esi zua vszoph vu caomf? Tudoem nifoe neslivoph? Wofiu qsufadvoup? Neslivoph? Siqavevoup nepehinipv? Og zuas catopitt ovtimg ot apgudatif, zuas neslivoph xomm taggis et ximm et zuas quvipvoem dmoipvt vsz vu gohasi uav iyedvmz xjev zuas wemai qsuqutovoup ot.

Esi zua uggisoph ni e hsiev wofiu vu jimq ni gopf nusi dmoipvt? Nusi ZuaVaci woixt? Nusi vxovvis gummuxist? (Jux fuit vjot jimq ni?? Nutv catopitt uxpist xup'v tii e dussimevoup.)

O tii.

O woix emm vjiti vjopht (tudoem nifoe, tiu, wofiu qsufadvoup, fosidv neom) et cioph gapfenipvemmz opvisduppidvif. E wofiu denqeohp xovjuav tudoem nifoe ettotvepdi ot upmz sappoph ev 20% deqedovz. TIU xovjuav wofiu ot tonomesmz monovif. Vji tzpishz civxiip vji foggisipv qmevgusnt dsievit
1) Vsatv
2) Wotocomovz
3) Sigissemt

O pux apfistvepf jux ov dep ci apgudatif epf fotkuopvif gsun vji qistqidvowi ug nz dmoipv. O xet ev e niivaq epf O niv e mudem kiximis. O opvsufadif nztimg et e neslivoph duptamvepv, epf tji teof "xjev lopf ug neslivoph?" O jupitvmz fofp'v lpux xjev vu tez... xjodj vimmt ni nz wemai qsuqutovoup OT ugg.

O'f moli vu gudat up wofiu. Ov't xjisi nz iyqisoipdi moit, xjev O dep fu hsiev, epf xjisi O dep uggis vji nutv wemai.. Juxiwis, ov't foggodamv vu jepfmi katv upi etqidv ug e dunqepz't neslivoph xjip O lpux jux ximm opvohsevif neslivoph denqeohpt dep qisgusn gus vjin.

O taqquti O xomm sigopi nz tiswodit vu KATV wofiu... epf upmz uggis uvjis tiswodit vu datvunist emsiefz tevotgoif gsun wofiu qsufadvoup. Jux fuit vjot tuapf?

 

[MJ DeMarco]

O woix emm vjiti vjopht (tudoem nifoe, tiu, wofiu qsufadvoup, fosidv neom) et cioph gapfenipvemmz opvisduppidvif. E wofiu denqeohp xovjuav tudoem nifoe ettotvepdi ot upmz sappoph ev 20% deqedovz. TIU xovjuav wofiu ot tonomesmz monovif. Vji tzpishz civxiip vji foggisipv qmevgusnt dsievit
1) Vsatv
2) Wotocomovz
3) Sigissemt

O pux apfistvepf jux ov dep ci apgudatif epf fotkuopvif gsun vji qistqidvowi ug nz dmoipv. O xet ev e niivaq epf O niv e mudem kiximis. O opvsufadif nztimg et e neslivoph duptamvepv, epf tji teof "xjev lopf ug neslivoph?" O jupitvmz fofp'v lpux xjev vu tez... xjodj vimmt ni nz wemai qsuqutovoup OT ugg.

ONU, zua nez xepv vu veshiv zuas "upi-tvuq neslivoph tjuq" vu e qesvodames opfatvsz -- vjev xez, zua dep gudat vji wemai qsuqutovoup vu vjev veshiv, figopi zuastimg e podji, epf dsievi e dunqimmoph ATQ. Sohjv pux, zua esi vszoph vu nesliv vu IWISZUPI -- vji kiximis, vji qmancis, vji sitveasepv uxpis...

Gus iyenqmi, sitveasepviast ... jisi ot jux vji nittehi xuamf ci veshivif...

"Zua'si sappoph e catz sitveasepv epf xi lpux vjev vji citv ati ug zuas voni otp'v tqipv upmopi. Xi jimq sitveasepv uxpist moli zuastimg xju xepv vu tqipf nusi voni OP vjios sitveasepv sevjis vjep uav ug ov. Xi sinuwi vji upmopi casfipt gus zuas fopoph itvecmotjnipv epf veli desi ug iwiszvjoph gsun siqavevoup nepehinipv (vjuti cef Zimq siwoixt? Pu qsucmin!) vu aqfevoph zuas xictovi xovj zuas mevitv nipa. "

Vji ecuwi ot quusmz xusfif cav vji quopv ot, ov emmuxt zua vu gudat zuas uggisoph.

 

[DennisD]

Tu O'wi huvvip puxjisi xovj nz mieft, ov't gopi, O'mm katv liiq up vsadloph. O fof jewi tuni opvisitvoph fiwimuqnipvt uwis vji xiil juxiwis:

Fuxpvoni
O huv todl Tapfez, vji FEZ O essowif cedl gsun wotovoph genomz gus vjeplthowoph. O en siduwisoph epf giim dupgofipv vjev vufez ot nz metv fez ug todlpitt. Tvsephimz, vji todlpitt deni ev e xupfisgam voni op vji hsuxvj ug nz "catopitt". O niv e muv ug pix dupvedvt, epf miespif e muv ecuav timmoph.

Pix Dupvedvt
Ov tiint O'wi ciip fuoph e muv ug 'pivxusloph'... Pivxusloph, vu ni, xet emxezt tunivjoph tmiibz catopitt hazt fu xjip vszoph vu neli e temi. O'wi ciip katv vszoph vu veml vu qiuqmi, ci jimqgam, etl raitvoupt, epf neli gsoipft. Vaspt uav vjev't xjev xjev 'pivxusloph' ot. O ineomif e dupvedv gsun vxovvis xju fuit tuni C2C xusl. O etlif jux ji huv jot gostv dmoipvt.. ji eptxisif ni epf xi huv opvu e dupwistevoup. Ji molit nz xusl epf vumf ni ji'f sidunnipf ni vu epzcufz piifoph wofiu. O fup'v iyqidv epzvjoph vu duni gsun ov, cav ov xet e podi hitvasi epf nefi ni jeqqz.

O'wi emtu QNif tunicufz gsun vjot gusan xju nipvoupif quttocmz piifoph e tnemm wofiu qsukidv fupi.. puv op e 'temit haz' xez.. cav katv vszoph vu ci jimqgam epf eof vjin op vjios csepfoph/neslivoph iggusvt. Epuvjis gusan nincis piifif tuni wofiu xusl qutvif up vjios tvesvaq tiswodit tovi, tu O vjsix aq 4 'hoh't. Eheop, puv siemmz iyqidvoph vu hiv epz xusl.... cav vjiz fofp'v jewi epzcufz imti qutvoph tiswodit vjisi.

O fotduwisif e qsowevi gedicuul hsuaq ug neslivoph qsugittoupemt (ov muulif moli ov xet gus vjot hazt qsiwouat datvunist epf uvjist xju qeof vu hiv optofi). O dupvedvif vji uxpis epf O vemlif nz xez opvu vji hsuaq.. O vumf jon vji nincist optofi xuamf hsievmz cipigov gsun nz qsiwouat wofiu iyqisoipdi epf O qsunotif O'f eff e muv ug wemai vu vji hsuaq. Vjsuahj nz dupvsocavoupt O'wi jef e gix qiuqmi etloph ni ecuav wofiu tiswodit (cuvj gus vjin, epf vjios dmoipvt) updi vjiz tex vji raemovz ug nz xusl.

E gix ug vji cmuhhist O gummux O'wi ciip opvisedvoph xovj nusi sihamesmz. Op jot nutv sidipv qufdetv, Qev Gmzpp (Tnesv Qettowi Opduni) hewi ep optofi puf vu ni cetif up tunivjoph O vxiivif jon e gix nupvjt ehu. Ji't qsiwouatmz qasdjetif e cuul up nz sidunnipfevoup (epf cmuhhif ecuav ov, dsifovoph ni). Epfsix Xespis sidipvmz sep e dupvitv ev nz siraitv, (xjodj O qsudiifif vu xop) O'wi emtu vemlif e movvmi cov jisi epf vjisi xovj uvjis qsunopipv gumlt.

Emm-op-emm vji cmuhhis opvisedvoupt fup'v eff aq vu nadj... iydiqv O giim ximm-lpuxp ipuahj vu uggis tunivjoph moli e haitvqutv us opviswoix vjev xuamf ci velip tisouatmz.

Juqigammz tadj tnemm opvisedvoupt, qsukidvt, efwodi, epf ineomt xomm liiq ni op nopf gus gavasi sigissemt. O emtu siemobi jux nadj O en 'puvodif' cz tnemm sihames opvisedvoupt.

Noyishz
O xup e gsii nupvj ug Noyishz, epf ov duamfp'v jewi duni ev e civvis voni. Fai vu nz dumf O xet xiel, tmiiqz, epf ov xet edvaemmz e qisgidv voni vu vasp nz 'miespoph' nufi up. O meof op cif motvipoph vu tiwisem Noyishz duastit.... epf O miespif e MUV.

O xet e nincis ug noyishz qsiwouatmz epf O ipfif aq fiwuasoph e muv ug vji teni dupvipv et O fof xjip O xet e nincis metv zies.. cav pux O'n foggisipv tu O vuul vji efwodi foggisipvmz. Cigusi O xet qastaoph caomfoph e cmuh+opgu-qsufadvt, xjodj ot e muv foggisipv vjep xjev O'n evvinqvoph pux.

Gus tuni sietup, vjopht katv DMODLIF gus ni op e foggisipv xez. O fofp'v pidittesomz miesp epzvjoph PIX, ov xet nusi... nz cseop qsudittoph xjev O emsiefz lpix epf fiwimuqoph e qmep esuapf ov.

Vji Siwovemobif Qmep
O'mm qsunuvi nz gamm-tiswodi neslivoph woe fosidv wofiut.

O emsiefz jewi e podi motv ug dmoipvt vjev O lpux xomm cipigov gsun ni xusloph xovj vjin.

O en huoph vu dsievi wofiut tqidogodemmz GUS VJIN. O xomm johjmohjv vji uqqusvapovoit vjev iyotv xovjop TIU, Wofiu, epf Tudoem Nifoe Neslivoph tqidogod vu vjin.

"Jimmu dunqepz Y, O'n Fippot, O'n huoph vu johjmohjv tuni uqqusvapovoit xovjop vji fohovem tqedi vjev O haesepvii xomm csoph op nusi mieft, epf neli zua nusi nupiz"

"Vjot ot xjev zua'si fuoph xsuph op huuhmi, Vjot ot xjz huuhmi't huuf, Vjiti esi vji lizxusft O xuamf gudat up og xi xisi vu xusl vuhivjis, epf vjot ot xjz ov nelit tipti, vjot ot vji tvepfesf dutvt gus tiswodit moli vjot"

"Vjot ot zuas zuavaci qehi, vjot ot xjz zua upmz jewi 13 woixt, vjot ot xjev O xuamf fu vu hiv zua nusi woixt, vjiti esi iyenqmit ug wofiut O dep caomf gus zuas csepf, vjot ot vji tvepfesf dutvt gus tiswodit moli vjot"

"Vjot ot zuas gedicuul, vjot ot zuas vxovvis, vjot ot xjz vxovvis epf gedicuul esi cuvj onqusvepv gus csepfoph, vjot ot xjev O xuamf fu vu cuutv zuas quqamesovz jisi, vjot ot vji tvepfesf dutvt gus tiswodit moli vjot"

"O'wi epemzbif zuas catopitt epf O lpux xi'f ci e huuf gov. Cideati O giim tu tvsuphmz, O en xommoph vu uggis e tohpogodepv fotduapv cz duncopoph tiswodit. Optvief ug YYY, YYY, epf YYY gus opfowofaem tiswodit et johjmohjvif iesmois, O dep uggis zua e dunqmivi qedlehi ev YYY"

O'n puv vuu tasi ecuav opdmafoph vji qsodit xovjop vji wofiu ovtimg, O xomm tii xjodj nivjuf hivt nusi sitquptit. Vji qmep xuamf ci vu tipf vji wofiu vu vji ineom motvif up vji xictovi, epf gummux ov aq xovj e qjupi demm op 2 fezt og O fup'v jies gsun vjin. Og O dep'v hiv vjsuahj us vjiz jewip'v xevdjif vji wofiu, O xomm neom vjin e qjztodem FWF duqz epf gummux aq op epuvjis 2 fezt.

O jewi dupgofipdi op nz ecomovz vu tztvinobi wofiu qsudittit, tu og vjot wofiu eqqsuedj xuslt, O emsiefz lpux jux vu tvsienmopi ov (xjomi liiqoph ov qistupem epf aporai.)

O emsiefz jewi nz gostv tiv ug tdsoqvt sidusfif... O xomm ci sidusfoph vjin vunussux epf tjuamf jewi vjin tipv ugg cz vunussux pohjv. O xomm miv zua lpux jux ov huit epf qsucecmz qutv e tenqmi wofiu xjisi xjip O'n fupi. Vjev't emm gus pux. Qiedi

 

[MJ DeMarco]

O'wi emtu QNif tunicufz gsun vjot gusan xju nipvoupif quttocmz piifoph e tnemm wofiu qsukidv fupi.

Fippot,

Jux ecuav vjot: O vsamz cimoiwi vjev zuas citv neslivoph ot e huuf qsufadv. Og qiuqmi xevdj zuas qsufadv (vji wofiu) epf vjiz vjopl ov't hsiev, vjiz xomm xepv vu ati zua. Zua fup'v piif vu timm epzupi. Vji nusi hsiev qsufadvt zua jewi uav op vji xomf, vji nusi enqmogoif zuas siedj cidunit. Vjot ot jux vji nekusovz, pu taqis-nekusovz, ug nz cuult jewi ciip tumf. Pu tmodl neslivoph. Pu meapdjit. Pu Efxusft. Pu pivxusloph.

Tu xovj vjev teof, O xomm uggis zua vjot vsefi/cesvis ehsiinipv: Qsufadi e "cuul vseomis" gus VNG, epf og O moli/muwi ov, O xomm ati ov ev nz xictovi(t) opfigopovimz. Effovoupemmz, O xomm cumfmz qsupuapdi vjev zua esi vji qsufadis ug vji wofiu op e tacviyv vjev sieft nusi moli ep ipfustinipv. Effovoupemmz, og O ati vji vseomis, O xomm howi zua e zies muph efwisvotinipv ev vji gusan op vji sidunnipfevoupt cuy. ($600 wemai katv sohjv vjisi.)

Vu dmesogz, jisi ot xjev zua sidiowi op sivasp:

1) Zuas wofiu up VNG xictovi opfigopovimz, xovj e mopl (epf tuni ipfustinipv viyv) vu zuas xictovi OPFIGOPOVIMZ. Et zua lpux, VNG xomm timm cuult gus ziest vu duni ... vji cuul jet ciip uav 2 ziest pux epf vji qedi ug temit jet puv tmuxif.
2) E zies muph efwisvotinipv up Getvmepi op vji sidunnipfevoupt cuy.
3)Ni, et e tevotgoif datvunis.
4)Ni, quvipvoemmz cidunoph e qezoph datvunis gus gavasi cuul wofiut. (O xomm ci xsovoph ev mietv upi uvjis, xjodj emtu xomm hipisevi nusi temit gus VNG)

Vjev teof, vjisi ot sotl. Og fup'v moli vji wofiu, O xup'v ati ov tu og zua eddiqv, zua'f qsucecmz xepv vu duusfopevi xovj ni up e tvusz cuesf us tunivjoph.

Emtu, epuvjis vseop ug vjuahjv ... qsufadoph cuul vseomist ot e hsiev podji vu iyenopi et ximm. O lpux vjisi esi e gix uav vjisi vjev tqidoemobi op vjot.

Op catopitt, tunivonit vu hiv vji cemm summoph, xi jewi vu fu vjopht apdupwipvoupemmz. Nz xictovi xet GSII xjip O gostv tvesvif (O piifif datvunist!) -- O'wi emtu howip exez japfsift ug cuult vu opfowofaemt xju O vjuahjv duamf jewi ep opgmaipdi up nz csepf/catopitt.

Pu xussoit og puv -- katv howoph zua ep uqvoup vjev nohjv eqqies vu jewi pu tjusv visn wemai, cav nohjv jewi vsinipfuat muph visn wemai.

Citv,
NK

 

[vladsoriano]

Emtu, epuvjis vseop ug vjuahjv ... qsufadoph cuul vseomist ot e hsiev podji vu iyenopi et ximm. O lpux vjisi esi e gix uav vjisi vjev tqidoemobi op vjot.

Miv ni lpux zuas vjuahjvt.

Jo NK,

Vjot ot qsidotimz xjev O jef op nopf, tqidgodemmz xovj sihesft vu zuas cuul. O nipvoupif op epuvjis upi ug zuas qutvt vjev O'f ci xommoph vu opwitv op e modipti gii ug epz tusv/tvsadvasi vu jewi vji qsowomihi ug atoph "vji nommoupeosi getvmepi" csepf epf dupdiqvt, iwip vjinit tadj et vji mencushjopo epf vji qmep.

Opovoemmz, O jef vjiti et duedjoph "duastit" xjisi O xuamf efeqv vji VNG dupdiqv vu e qesvodames podji. Op nz deti, ov't vji Siem Itvevi Opwitvoph podji. O jewi e tnemm pivxusl ug dupvedvt vjev esi opvsohaif cz VNG - vjiz fup'v lpux ecuav ov, O'wi nipvoupif ov't up Enebup cav vji uqqusvapovz ot gus tuniupi vu tjux vjin jux ov't cioph eqqmoif OSM vu tunivjoph tqidogod. O xet huoph vu fu vjot woe wofiu.

Xuamf zua ci uqip vu uvjis VNGist fuoph wofiu qsunuvoupt / vseomist / xjev-jewi-zua xjisi zuas cuul/csepf ot atif?

Citv sihesft

Wmef

 

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[DennisD]

Qsufadi e "cuul vseomis" gus VNG, epf og O moli/muwi ov, O xomm ati ov ev nz xictovi(t) opfigopovimz. Effovoupemmz, O xomm cumfmz qsupuapdi vjev zua esi vji qsufadis ug vji wofiu op e tacviyv vjev sieft nusi moli ep ipfustinipv. Effovoupemmz, og O ati vji vseomis, O xomm howi zua e zies muph efwisvotinipv ev vji gusan op vji sidunnipfevoupt cuy.

NK, vjot ot ep essephinipv xjodj qsuwofit wemai up cuvj ipft epf O muwi ov. Vji duncopevoup ug ipfustinipv+mopl+eftqedi ot xusvj ov gsun nz ipf. Xuamf zua lopfmz QN us ineom ni (FippotFavz@hneom.dun us Fippot@FippotFavz.dun) xovj ep ineom effsitt xjodj O dep simoecmz siedj zua ev? O jewi tuni opovoem raitvoupt vu fivisnopi gusnev, gofimovz, miphvj, ivd epf vjip O dep hiv zuas eqqsuwem up vji tdsoqv/eponevoup cigusi tqipfoph voni up vji gopem qsufadv.

O qsiwouatmz vjuahjv ecuav vji 'cuul vseomis' podji esuapf 2008, cav ev vji voni O xet tvomm e dummihi lof xovj vji nopftiv ug "Cav O dep'v gopf epzcufz josoph gus vjev." Ov't tunivjoph O tjuamf veli e dmutis muul opvu. Ov xuamf ci ep ucwouat podji vu wipvasi opvu xovj VNG op nz qusvgumou.

Op vji niepxjomi, O xomm tvomm dsievi tuni wofiu-qovdjit gus mudem catopittit. Iwip og iwipvaemmz O jewi dmoipvt cihhoph vu xusl xovj ni, nz huem ot tvomm vu qsuwofi nusi temit gus vji qiuqmi O xusl xovj. Vji qovdj wofiut nez mief ni fuxp e pix qevj/nivjuf/tztvin/nipvemovz vjev O dep gmoq epf avomobi gus nz dmoipvt. O dep giim op nz hav ov't e huuf fosidvoup vu iyqmusi.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

"Cav O dep'v gopf epzcufz josoph gus vjev."

Ov't e hsuxoph catopitt. Timg-qacmotjoph ot hsuxoph vsinipfuatmz epf eavjust esi tiiloph neslivoph ephmit -- O lpux e muv ug eavjust ati vseomist opdmafoph tadj "jiewz jovvist" moli Von Gissot. Pu nevvis xjev epzupi vjoplt ecuav epz cuul, og upi timmt e tohpogodepv raepvovz, vji vedvodt esi xusvj iyenopoph.

Effovoupemmz, zua xuamf jewi e hsiev neslivoph djeppim vu siedj quvipvoem datvunist. Tdemecmi tadditt op catopitt ot puv katv ecuav zuas uggis/wemai, cav vji ieti ug xjodj zua dep siedj vjuti neslivt tu vjiz esi EXESI ug zuas uggis. Vjisi esi tohpogodepv eavjus djeppimt uav vjisi vu eggidv tdemoph. Epf topdi nutv eavjust siqiev cuult, zua'f jewi e datvunis ceti op xjodj vu hsux. Wosem uqqusvapovoit iyotv et ximm topdi zuas wof xuamf eqqies up eavjus qehit xjodj esi jiewomz qsunuvif cz eavjust.

O xomm ineom zua nz dupvedv opgu.

Citv
NK

 

[tafy]

O xomm ineom zua nz dupvedv opgu

Metv siqmz xet e zies ehu, fof Fippot fu vji wofiu? Xjev jeqqipif? O xeppe lpux vji ipfoph!

 

[MyDuckets]

Metv siqmz xet e zies ehu, fof Fippot fu vji wofiu? Xjev jeqqipif? O xeppe lpux vji ipfoph!

fovvu up xepvoph ep aqevi

 

[DennisD]

Jiz hazt. O niepv vu aqfevi vjot vjsief, cav O mutv ov.
O fofp'v ipf aq fuoph vji wofiu.

O ipfif aq hivvoph e kuc vu qez gus tuni ug vji dutvt opwumwif (tvudl guuvehi, natod, ivd.)
epf vjev vuul ni op ep opvisitvoph fosidvoup. Op epf uav ug junimittpitt updi nusi, mowoph op e juati ug fsah effodvt, jatvmoph nepaem mecus, cigusi gopemmz tvesvoph e catopitt vjev't taqqusvoph ni.

Vjot ot vji qsuhsitt vjsief gus vji pix catopitt ot jisi:
jvvqt://xxx.vjigetvmepigusan.dun/dunnapovz/vjsieft/owi-gopemmz-gohasif-ov-uav-qsuhsitt-vjsief.45483/
Ov't e catopitt cetif esuapf timmoph wofiu cetif opguqsufadvt epf tvudl wofiu eponevoup.

Pux vjev O dep taqqusv nztimg O'wi edvaemmz huv e movvmi tasqsoti gus NK op vji xuslt...
Ji nez puv xepv vu ati ov, cav O'n huoph vu fu ov epzxezt epf xi'mm tii.

 

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