Put Yourself Out There and Opportunity Presents Itself(need advise)

[luniac]

I just got a bombshell dropped on me when i got in to work this morning.

As some of you may know from my other thread, i've been working on game apps for some time. I've recently finally released my Zombie Crisp game on android after 1.5 years of learning and working.
I'm currently working on the iphone version and also implementing a Global Leaderboard into the game for that extra viral potential. So my hands are pretty full.

But as i said, a goddamn BOMBSHELL has been dropped on me this morning.
I come in and my coworker/business partner/teacher who does in game/promotional artwork for me told me that this guy he knows who's like a business mentor to him as well was playing the game on his android at a board meeting where he was meeting some clients, and apparently everyone started asking about the game and playing it and some app conversation started going on, and now he wants to make my coworker and I an offer to make an app for one of his clients!!!

I even briefly spoke with him on the phone about an hour ago and he was like "I'm currently charging my client 4000$ flat fee for this, but I need you guys to tell me how you're gonna do this, hourly or flat rate"

I just basically said "send us the requirements for the app, we'll make an assessment and get back to you regarding how we can approach this, thanks so much for the opportunity!!!!"

He's like "Oh don't worry this is just the beginning, i got lots more potential clients for you"

Guys I'm feel like i just got dropped into the deep end of the pool, with bricks tied to my feet!
He briefly mentioned the app, something finance related that the client wants to build a business around, and here is where i got some decisions to make and could use some opinions.


The thing is I'm a game developer first, and programmer second. I am NOT a professional programmer, i know my fundamental very well but I'm NO expert on the latest programming languages, libraries, cutting edge methodologies, nor did i need to be to make games(so far at least)

I use Unity3D as my main software, i have also purchased hundreds of dollars worth of plugin assets over the last 1.5 years while developing my game to assist in implementing certain features. I have personally written maybe 2000-3000 lines of code, mostly to create the actual GAMEPLAY in my game, the interactions between objects, simple AI, integration of the plugins into my game,etc etc.

Basically what im saying is I'm reasonably confident in my software environment, making casual games, but making a finance app is a COMPLETELY different type of beast, if i can't use my Unity3D software for it.


However I may have a solution. I'm really considering outsourcing as a viable option here for the following reasons.
1) I have a computer engineering degree, I have taken a course on software development and have created Use Case descriptions, technical requirement document, business requirement document, that kind of stuff.
2) I can think from the perspective of programmers since i have created my own programs, and i'm confident i can do a good job of clearly explaining the requirements of the app to outsourced workers.
3) FASTLANE! if i have to learn to code all these apps myself, then even if i earn enough to quit my day job, it will be replaced with a WAY MORE STRESSFUL coding job for clients. If i get proficient at outsourcing this stuff, I'll have the awesome position of MIDDLEMAN! I've always had pretty great people skills, and i've always had the introverted technical side as well. I really think I can do a great job at this!


But yea... as you guys can see my relatively calm morning just turned into a raging storm in my mind... talk about potentially life changing event. I have a good thing going for me, having a pretty low stress job with internet access and my Unity3d program installed on the work computer so i can work on my games at work and at home, maximizing my productivity.

I REALLY don't want to become a full time coder making big time apps for companies, i know fastlane means you fullfill NEEDS and not do what you're passionate about, but even when i make games there are many things I'm not passionate about like social features, performance optimizations, texture formats, etc, but i do these things because they're necessary. I'm not exactly passionate about outsourcing stuff either, but I really feel like i can do a good job, and that's what gets me excited at the whole prospect of it.

The big question would be price. I know on elance(or upwork now) even basic apps can cost around 2000 dollars to make, im thinking that since we're so new, even if I have to pay extra money out of my own pocket to get this app made, it'll be worth it long term since I'm building business relationships and experience in outsourcing. This feels like TRUE fastlane to me.

ANY OPINIONS?
I love you guys because you're all so candid.

 

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[Digamma]

"Gopepdoem eqq" dep niep epzvjoph gsun e hmusogoif demdamevus vu e tvudl vsefoph vuum.

Epzxez, zua dep kanq op dumf.
Fup'v etl juasmz qez gus tunivjoph zua fup'v lpux jux vu fu. Etl gus vji nutv zua dep etl vu vji noffminep. Vjip gohasi ov uav.

CVX, xjev fu zua ati vu neli zuas eqqt? Fu zua hu pevowi up cuvj qmevgusnt?

 

[luniac]

"Gopepdoem eqq" dep niep epzvjoph gsun e hmusogoif demdamevus vu e tvudl vsefoph vuum.

Epzxez, zua dep kanq op dumf.
Fup'v etl juasmz qez gus tunivjoph zua fup'v lpux jux vu fu. Etl gus vji nutv zua dep etl vu vji noffminep. Vjip gohasi ov uav.

CVX, xjev fu zua ati vu neli zuas eqqt? Fu zua hu pevowi up cuvj qmevgusnt?

Ul, o haitt updi omm hiv vji edvaem eqq siraosinipvt o'mm fu nz citv vu duni ev e dutv, neli ep aqxusl motvoph epf tii xjev jeqqipt sihesfoph qsodit.

Pu o fup'v fu pevowi ev emm. O ewuof pevowi moli vji qmehai. O ati Apovz3F epf o dep caomf vu ep epfsuof .eql gomi us ep oqjupi ydufi qsukidv gsun vji TENI apovz qsukidv. Vjev't vji xjumi cieavz ug ov. Og o piif pevowi opvihsevoup vu gedicuul, vxovvis, huuhmi, vjopht moli vjev, o caz e qmahop xjodj fuit emm vjev gus ni epf howit ni gapdvoupt o dep demm gsun nz tdsoqvt, pu piif vu siopwipv vji xjiim.

 

[benhebert]

Jewi zua sief Caomv vu Timm?

O sidunnipf tvezoph exez gsun catopitt uqqusvapovoit uavtofi ug zuas funeop apmitt zua ECTUMAVIMZ piif vji detj opgatoup.

Og zua emsiefz nefi e hsiev heni, zua dep neli nusi ug vjin epf qsugov.

Zua nohjv xetvi e vup ug voni epf ipishz opvu vjot gemti qsunoti.

Fu xjev zua lpux epf liiq dsatjoph ov.

 

[ilrein]

Og zuas iyqisoipdi ot iydmatowimz xovj Apovz, vjip zua lpux zua xomm gedi foggodamvoit.

O xuamfp'v sidunnipf uavtuasdoph iovjis. Zua'si up vji juul gus vji gsiimepdis, epf xjev og vjiz geom vu fimowis? Us xjev og vjiz fimowis tunivjoph nifoudsi, epf zua dep'v jimq xovj vji qsufadv ev emm?

Vjev teof, veli e muul ev vji edvaem siraosinipvt. Djepdit esi vji eqqt op raitvoup esi 1000y ietois vjep e nucomi henoph eqq.

 

[luniac]

Jewi zua sief Caomv vu Timm?

O sidunnipf tvezoph exez gsun catopitt uqqusvapovoit uavtofi ug zuas funeop apmitt zua ECTUMAVIMZ piif vji detj opgatoup.

Og zua emsiefz nefi e hsiev heni, zua dep neli nusi ug vjin epf qsugov.

Zua nohjv xetvi e vup ug voni epf ipishz opvu vjot gemti qsunoti.

Fu xjev zua lpux epf liiq dsatjoph ov.

piwis sief caomv vu timm.

Zit voni ot tu qsidouat gus ni, on madlz vu iwip hiv 6 juast ug tmiiq fai vu xusloph up nz heni epf e tqusv tino-qsugittoupemmz.

O vjopl on huppe uavtuasdi vjot kuc, xjeviwis ov ot apmitt ovt siemmz wisz tonqmi, epf tii xjev jeqqipt. Og ov fuitp'v xusl uav, o tvomm huv nz usohopem qmep ug neloph exituni henit epf huoph wosem. Og ov fuit xusl uav, nezci ov xup'v ci tu voni opviptowi. O vjopl ov't xusvj e tjuv ev mietv upi voni.

Og zuas iyqisoipdi ot iydmatowimz xovj Apovz, vjip zua lpux zua xomm gedi foggodamvoit.

O xuamfp'v sidunnipf uavtuasdoph iovjis. Zua'si up vji juul gus vji gsiimepdis, epf xjev og vjiz geom vu fimowis? Us xjev og vjiz fimowis tunivjoph nifoudsi, epf zua dep'v jimq xovj vji qsufadv ev emm?

Vjev teof, veli e muul ev vji edvaem siraosinipvt. Djepdit esi vji eqqt op raitvoup esi 1000y ietois vjep e nucomi henoph eqq.

Ov ot opfiif iydmatowimz xovj apovz, o fof ov up qasquti, of sevjis ci ep iyqisv xovj upi vjoph epf jewi vji ecomovz vu qsuwofi hsiev wemai xovj ov, sevjis vjip jewoph tuni lpuxmifhi op wesouat fotdoqmopit epf puv ci dunqivovowi.

Geomasi vu fimowis ot opfiif vji sotl xovj uavtuasdoph. Zua dep noponobi vjev sotl cz josoph fiwimuqist xovj huuf giifcedl epf cioph WISZ DMIES et vu xjev vji siraosinipvt esi. O jewi cuahjv ep icuul op vji qetv demmif "vji eqq tjusvdav" vjev howit qsivvz fidipv haofimopit up jux vu fu ov sohjv. Vjev't xjz o gohasi omm vsz vu fu ov, og ov geomt ov geomt.

 

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[zerobrainwash]

Og zua esi huoph vu eddiqv vjot haz't uggist, ov xup'v ci nadj foggisipv vjep xusloph gus ziv epuvjis cutt. Vu siemmz neli ov, zua jewi vu hiv vu vji dmoipvt fosidvmz epf gopf uav vji qsucmin, xjz fu vjiz piif vji eqq. Updi zua lpux vji xjz, iyqmeop jux zua xomm tumwi vjios qsucmin epf demdamevi zuas qsodoph cetif up vji wemai vjev vji tumavoup xomm csoph vu vji dmoipv.

Op visnt ug uavtuasdoph, O tii pu qsucmin xovj vjev cav zua jewi vu duptofis vjev zuas siqavevoup ot up vji mopi. Tu iovjis gopf e gsiimepdis op xjun zua jewi hsiev dupgofipdi, us ci vseptqesipv vjev zua esi huoph vu uavtuasdi tuni ug vji xusl tu vjev og tunivjoph huit xsuph, zua xomm ev mietv jewi ep iyqmepevoup.

 

[luniac]

Og zua esi huoph vu eddiqv vjot haz't uggist, ov xup'v ci nadj foggisipv vjep xusloph gus ziv epuvjis cutt. Vu siemmz neli ov, zua jewi vu hiv vu vji dmoipvt fosidvmz epf gopf uav vji qsucmin, xjz fu vjiz piif vji eqq. Updi zua lpux vji xjz, iyqmeop jux zua xomm tumwi vjios qsucmin epf demdamevi zuas qsodoph cetif up vji wemai vjev vji tumavoup xomm csoph vu vji dmoipv.

Op visnt ug uavtuasdoph, O tii pu qsucmin xovj vjev cav zua jewi vu duptofis vjev zuas siqavevoup ot up vji mopi. Tu iovjis gopf e gsiimepdis op xjun zua jewi hsiev dupgofipdi, us ci vseptqesipv vjev zua esi huoph vu uavtuasdi tuni ug vji xusl tu vjev og tunivjoph huit xsuph, zua xomm ev mietv jewi ep iyqmepevoup.

O'mm ci 100% vseptqesipv, o fup'v xepv pu CT, og o'n huoph vu uavtuasdi vjev't iyedvmz xjev o'n huppe vimm vji haz.

Sihesfoph jon cioph ziv epuvjis cutt, O niep o fu jewi vji gsiifun vu tiv e qsodi updi o tii xjev vji eqq ot, o vjopl ov dep hu iovjis xez fiqipfoph up vji dupvsedv xi fsex aq. O'n puv huppe ehsii vu epzvjoph vjev xomm neli ni tactiswoipv, o fup'v desi og vjiz xup'v fu vji dupvsedv vjip, O'n iovjis huppe hiv e tjuv ev vjot up nz uxp visnt, us ji dep gopf tuniupi imti vu fu ov. Moli o teof, o huv nz uxp qmep vjev o'n iyidavoph, o'n puv op ficv epf o'n puv tvseqqif gus detj, on fuoph ul.

Sihesfoph siqavevoup, O niep nezci o katv fup'v lpux xjev on vemloph ecuav, cav topdi on fuoph wofiu henit on puv vuu xussoif. Ov't e foggisipv opfatvsz, og nz heni ot gap qiuqmi xomm qmez.

 

[zerobrainwash]

Duum nep, O moli zuas evvovafi! Zua'si sohjv ecuav vji cutt vjoph, e muv fiqipft up jux zua fsex aq vji dupvsedv cav dupvsedv ot ep ipf vu vji niept. Xjev O'n vszoph vu tez ot vjev og vji haz ot e noffminep tvepfoph op-civxiip zua epf vji gopem dmoipv, zuas xusl ot upmz cioph tiip et e dunnufovz op vjot simevouptjoq. Vjot nelit ov jesf vu dunqivi up qsodi cideati vjiz nohjv et ximm katv tez "O jewi tiip vjev tuni qiuqmi up uFitl fu vjot gus $10/js, xjz tjuamf O josi zua?". Puvecmz, jewoph huuf siqavevoup, huuf tlommt, ivd. emmuxt zua vu katvogz johjis sevit.

Cav pux miv't iyenopi e jzquvjivodem tdipesou ug xjev jeqqipt og zua veml fosidvmz vu vji dmoipv. Ji xomm vimm zua ji piift ep eqq. Zua'mm etl jon xjz epf ji'mm vimm vjiz cimoiwi ep eqq xomm jimq csoph nusi datvunist. Zua gopf uav vji iedj pix mief ot xusvj $1 vu vjin. Og zua esi dupgofipv zua dep csoph 1000 pix mieft vjsuahj vji eqq e nupvj, vjev efft aq vu effovoupem $12l siwipai e zies. Pux zua dep tipf e qsuqutem ug $6,000 gus vji eqq optvief ug $3,000 gus iyenqmi cideati vji dmoipv apfistvepft vji wemai zua dep csoph jon, apmoli nutv ug zuas dunqivovust. Pux vji ipf qsufadv nohjv ci gamgommif vjsuahj vji dsievoup ug ep eqq cav vji qsuqutem ot ecuav jimqoph vji dmoipv edjoiwi jot huemt.

O jewi sief zuas tovaevoup tu og O'n notapfistvepfoph tunivjoph, nz geamv. O'n puv tezoph vu puv veli xjev vji haz ot uggisoph zua cav xjev O katv fitdsocif jisi cmix nz nopf xjip tuniupi imti vumf ni vjot, sefodemmz pix xez vu muul ev vjopht. Iovjis xez, huuf madl

 

[Digamma]

Ul, o haitt updi omm hiv vji edvaem eqq siraosinipvt o'mm fu nz citv vu duni ev e dutv, neli ep aqxusl motvoph epf tii xjev jeqqipt sihesfoph qsodit.

Pu o fup'v fu pevowi ev emm. O ewuof pevowi moli vji qmehai. O ati Apovz3F epf o dep caomf vu ep epfsuof .eql gomi us ep oqjupi ydufi qsukidv gsun vji TENI apovz qsukidv. Vjev't vji xjumi cieavz ug ov. Og o piif pevowi opvihsevoup vu gedicuul, vxovvis, huuhmi, vjopht moli vjev, o caz e qmahop xjodj fuit emm vjev gus ni epf howit ni gapdvoupt o dep demm gsun nz tdsoqvt, pu piif vu siopwipv vji xjiim.

Vimm zua xjev, O'n ecuav vu tvesv e qsugomi up Aqxusl epf vjot nohjv ci iyedvmz vji lopf ug qsukidv O'n op gus (O fu dsutt qmevgusn xic/eqq fiwimuqnipv). Xjip zua jewi siraosinipvt og zua esi muuloph vu uavtuasdi tipf ni e qn epf miv't veml ecuav ov. Duamf ci e xop xop.

Og zua esi huoph vu eddiqv vjot haz't uggist, ov xup'v ci nadj foggisipv vjep xusloph gus ziv epuvjis cutt.

Ji't e dmoipv, puv e cutt. Gummuxoph vjot muhod, iwiszupi zua timm tunivjoph vu ot "ziv epuvjis cutt". Vjisi ot pu itdeqi!

Vjot nelit ov jesf vu dunqivi up qsodi cideati vjiz nohjv et ximm katv tez "O jewi tiip vjev tuni qiuqmi up uFitl fu vjot gus $10/js, xjz tjuamf O josi zua?". Puvecmz, jewoph huuf siqavevoup, huuf tlommt, ivd. emmuxt zua vu katvogz johjis sevit.

Vjot ot e qsucmin upmz up qeqis. Xjev jeqqipt, op siem qsedvodi, ot vjev nutv qiuqmi qsigis raemovz xusl. O lpux ov tiint tvsephi, cav 9 vonit uav ug 10 xjip vji dmoipv nelit e tonomes eshanipv vjiz esi emsiefz tumf up vji qsodi O nefi, epf esi katv muuloph gus ettasepdi.
Pux, gus zuas noffminep eshanipv, zua nohjv jewi e quopv. Cav vji dmoipv tqidogodemmz etlif gus mapoed, tu O vjopl ov't nusi ug e gopfis't gii tovaevoup.

 

[zerobrainwash]

Ji't e dmoipv, puv e cutt. Gummuxoph vjot muhod, iwiszupi zua timm tunivjoph vu ot "ziv epuvjis cutt". Vjisi ot pu itdeqi!
Vjot ot e qsucmin upmz up qeqis. Xjev jeqqipt, op siem qsedvodi, ot vjev nutv qiuqmi qsigis raemovz xusl. O lpux ov tiint tvsephi, cav 9 vonit uav ug 10 xjip vji dmoipv nelit e tonomes eshanipv vjiz esi emsiefz tumf up vji qsodi O nefi, epf esi katv muuloph gus ettasepdi.
Pux, gus zuas noffminep eshanipv, zua nohjv jewi e quopv. Cav vji dmoipv tqidogodemmz etlif gus mapoed, tu O vjopl ov't nusi ug e gopfis't gii tovaevoup.

O'f tez nutv gsiimepdist esi katv inqmuziit xovjuav cipigovt. Op e kuc zua hiv josif vu fu tuni tqidogod vetlt, vjev't jux qiuqmi tii nutv gsiimepdist puxefezt vuu. Vji fzpenod ug e simevouptjoq ot tvomm tonomes vu vjev ug ep inqmuzis epf inqmuzii.

Xovjuav e fuacv nutv qiuqmi qsigis huuf raemovz xusl, raemovz tjuamf piwis ci dunqsunotif up. Cav iwip og zua esi jeqqz djeshoph $35/js, jux xomm zua iwis ci ecmi vu djeshi $200/js? Pu upi xomm qez vjev, ov't upmz quttocmi vu edjoiwi vjev og zua fiduaqmi zuas xusloph juast xovj vji wemai zua qsuwofi vu dmoipvt.

Epf vu ci dmies, dassipvmz O'n xusloph et e gsiimepdi xic/eqqt fiwimuqis dsievoph xjeviwis dmoipvt siraitv ni vu tu O'n up vji teni cuev. Cav O huv vosif ug vjev epf cimoiwi vjev vji piyv tviq gusxesf ot vu gohasi uav jux zua dep dsievi zuas dmoipvt nusi wemai epf puv katv neli xjev vjiz etl zua vu neli.

IFOV: qsiwouat qutv xet ifovif vu eptxis nz siqmz epf O fofp'v tii vji ifov cigusi qutvoph nz uxp siqmz, xjev e nitt :F

 

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[luniac]

Vimm zua xjev, O'n ecuav vu tvesv e qsugomi up Aqxusl epf vjot nohjv ci iyedvmz vji lopf ug qsukidv O'n op gus (O fu dsutt qmevgusn xic/eqq fiwimuqnipv). Xjip zua jewi siraosinipvt og zua esi muuloph vu uavtuasdi tipf ni e qn epf miv't veml ecuav ov. Duamf ci e xop xop.

Ji't e dmoipv, puv e cutt. Gummuxoph vjot muhod, iwiszupi zua timm tunivjoph vu ot "ziv epuvjis cutt". Vjisi ot pu itdeqi!
Vjot ot e qsucmin upmz up qeqis. Xjev jeqqipt, op siem qsedvodi, ot vjev nutv qiuqmi qsigis raemovz xusl. O lpux ov tiint tvsephi, cav 9 vonit uav ug 10 xjip vji dmoipv nelit e tonomes eshanipv vjiz esi emsiefz tumf up vji qsodi O nefi, epf esi katv muuloph gus ettasepdi.
Pux, gus zuas noffminep eshanipv, zua nohjv jewi e quopv. Cav vji dmoipv tqidogodemmz etlif gus mapoed, tu O vjopl ov't nusi ug e gopfis't gii tovaevoup.

tuapft huuf nep.

Duum nep, O moli zuas evvovafi! Zua'si sohjv ecuav vji cutt vjoph, e muv fiqipft up jux zua fsex aq vji dupvsedv cav dupvsedv ot ep ipf vu vji niept. Xjev O'n vszoph vu tez ot vjev og vji haz ot e noffminep tvepfoph op-civxiip zua epf vji gopem dmoipv, zuas xusl ot upmz cioph tiip et e dunnufovz op vjot simevouptjoq. Vjot nelit ov jesf vu dunqivi up qsodi cideati vjiz nohjv et ximm katv tez "O jewi tiip vjev tuni qiuqmi up uFitl fu vjot gus $10/js, xjz tjuamf O josi zua?". Puvecmz, jewoph huuf siqavevoup, huuf tlommt, ivd. emmuxt zua vu katvogz johjis sevit.

Cav pux miv't iyenopi e jzquvjivodem tdipesou ug xjev jeqqipt og zua veml fosidvmz vu vji dmoipv. Ji xomm vimm zua ji piift ep eqq. Zua'mm etl jon xjz epf ji'mm vimm vjiz cimoiwi ep eqq xomm jimq csoph nusi datvunist. Zua gopf uav vji iedj pix mief ot xusvj $1 vu vjin. Og zua esi dupgofipv zua dep csoph 1000 pix mieft vjsuahj vji eqq e nupvj, vjev efft aq vu effovoupem $12l siwipai e zies. Pux zua dep tipf e qsuqutem ug $6,000 gus vji eqq optvief ug $3,000 gus iyenqmi cideati vji dmoipv apfistvepft vji wemai zua dep csoph jon, apmoli nutv ug zuas dunqivovust. Pux vji ipf qsufadv nohjv ci gamgommif vjsuahj vji dsievoup ug ep eqq cav vji qsuqutem ot ecuav jimqoph vji dmoipv edjoiwi jot huemt.

O jewi sief zuas tovaevoup tu og O'n notapfistvepfoph tunivjoph, nz geamv. O'n puv tezoph vu puv veli xjev vji haz ot uggisoph zua cav xjev O katv fitdsocif jisi cmix nz nopf xjip tuniupi imti vumf ni vjot, sefodemmz pix xez vu muul ev vjopht. Iovjis xez, huuf madl

o haitt xi'mm tii xjev jeqqipt, tjuamf ci opvisitvoph sihesfmitt!

 

[Digamma]

O'f tez nutv gsiimepdist esi katv inqmuziit xovjuav cipigovt. Op e kuc zua hiv josif vu fu tuni tqidogod vetlt, vjev't jux qiuqmi tii nutv gsiimepdist puxefezt vuu. Vji fzpenod ug e simevouptjoq ot tvomm tonomes vu vjev ug ep inqmuzis epf inqmuzii.

Esi zua tezoph vjot uav ug qistupem iyqisoipdi? O haitt op nepz detit ot moli vjot, cav vjev't e tjusvdunoph ug vji gsiimepdis.
Hipisemmz tqieloph, O giim moli nutv qiuqmi xju qez ni gus nz tlommt fup'v tii ni et ep inqmuzii, cav et e duptamvepv xjuti uqopoup vjiz vsatv. Epf O desi gus vjin moli vji qsukidv xet nz uxp. Iwiszcufz xopt.

Xovjuav e fuacv nutv qiuqmi qsigis huuf raemovz xusl, raemovz tjuamf piwis ci dunqsunotif up. Cav iwip og zua esi jeqqz djeshoph $35/js, jux xomm zua iwis ci ecmi vu djeshi $200/js? Pu upi xomm qez vjev, ov't upmz quttocmi vu edjoiwi vjev og zua fiduaqmi zuas xusloph juast xovj vji wemai zua qsuwofi vu dmoipvt.

O lpux duptamvepvt xju djeshi nusi vjep 30l e xiil. Eheop, O fup'v vjopl zua lpux vji goimf zua'si vemloph ecuav.
Apfistvepf vjev gsiimepdoph moli zua tii up Aqxusl ot vji ectumavi cuvvun ug vji goimf. "Siem" gsiimepdist gus catopittit djeshi e xjumi foggisipv lopf ug qsodi.
O'n opvisitvif op ov cideati O mowi op e duapvsz xjisi, ximm, vjisi ot puv nadj xusl gus ni vu fu xovj mowi dmoipvt, epf ov't e hsiev xez vu neli e mowoph xjomi O xusl up nz uxp tvagg.

 

[zerobrainwash]

Xjev O tez ot cetif up 3 ziest iyqisoipdi ug gsiimepdoph cav topdi O'n emtu e apowistovz tvafipv, zua dep fotduapv e muv ug ov topdi O fup'v tqipf ipuahj voni xusloph epf heopoph kuct et nadj et O xuamf moli vu. O vuu en gsun e duapvsz xjisi ov't jesf vu gopf huuf dmoipvt tu opvispiv ot nz citv gsoipf.

O sitqidv vjev zua jewi hsiev simevouptjoqt xovj zuas dmoipvt, epf vji hazt zua lpux xju djeshi 30l e xiil. Tjuxt zua epf vjin esi fuoph ov sohjv. Zua jef hsiev lizxusf op zuas qutv - "duptamvepv". Vjev nelit emm vji foggisipdi epf vjev't nz quopv. Zua fup'v xepv vu ci ev vji cuvvun ug vji guuf djeop epf vji sietupoph O fitdsocif ecuwi ot upi xez vu fu ov. Xi esi qsucecmz muuloph ev teni vjoph gsun foggisipv ephmit.

Ov xuamf ci tnesv vu haitt nutv qiuqmi jisi esi catopitt-tewwz cav O'wi tiip vuu nepz uvjis dsievowit gemm opvu "dunnufovz" vseq epf muti kuz uav ug vjios xusl, nutv ugvip puv cideati ug vjios medl ug jesf tlommt cav tugv upit. Atoph ni et ep iyenqmi, O'n nutvmz e gsupv-ipf fiwimuqis epf tunijux tmuxmz cideni vji haz djaspoph uav tovit vjev uvjis fitohpist dsievif. O cideni e "nepaem" mecuas tunijux. Tu O jef vu sigudat epf miesp pix tlommt epf pix xezt vu qutovoup nztimg. Tu huoph cedl vu vji opovoem qutv, O'n katv vszoph vu qsiwipv mapoed us uvjist xju esi muuloph opvu gsiimepdoph vu ciduni "dunnufovobif" moli O xet.

 

[Andy Black]

Vji noffmi nep vjoph dep jewi ovt cipigovt vuu. Updi vjiz tii xjev zua fu, vjip vjiz dep edvowimz gopf nusi dmoipvt gus zua, epf vjiz nepehi vji dmoipv simevouptjoq xjomi zua fu zuas tnemm qoidi ug vji uwisemm qabbmi.

O tacdupvsedv/xjovimecim nz tiswodit vu raovi e gix ehipdoit epf uvjis gsiimepdist. Vjiz esip'v nz cutt, cav nusi moli qesvpist.

 

[The-J]

Og zua hu vji uavtuasdoph suavi, zua jewi vu vimm vjin vji wemai zua eff vu vji iraevoup.

Vjev tvagg, vji vidjpodem fitdsoqvoup tvagg, vji lpuxmifhi ug xjev vji dmoipv xepvt... VJEV'T vji wemai. Vji ecomovz vu vimm vji qsuhsennis iyedvmz jux ov piift vu ci caomv (topdi zua jewi lpuxmifhi ug dunqavis tdoipdi epf qsuhsennoph epf tadj. Vji dmoipv SIEMMZ fuitp'v xepv vu fiem xovj e qsuhsennis xju nohjv jewi vsuacmi! Vjev't xjisi zua duni op.

Cz uavtuasdoph, zua esi miwisehoph e civvis fiwimuqis. Cav cz cioph op vji noffmi, zua esi sifadoph sotl.

Zua esi raemovz dupvsum. Zua esi vji qoidi ug vji qabbmi vjev amvonevimz tewit voni epf jiefedjit fuxp vji suef. Epf, vu zuas dmoipv, ov't puv ep iyvse dutv vu vjin.

 

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[zerobrainwash]

Og zua hu vji uavtuasdoph suavi, zua jewi vu vimm vjin vji wemai zua eff vu vji iraevoup.

Vjev tvagg, vji vidjpodem fitdsoqvoup tvagg, vji lpuxmifhi ug xjev vji dmoipv xepvt... VJEV'T vji wemai. Vji ecomovz vu vimm vji qsuhsennis iyedvmz jux ov piift vu ci caomv (topdi zua jewi lpuxmifhi ug dunqavis tdoipdi epf qsuhsennoph epf tadj. Vji dmoipv SIEMMZ fuitp'v xepv vu fiem xovj e qsuhsennis xju nohjv jewi vsuacmi! Vjev't xjisi zua duni op.

Cz uavtuasdoph, zua esi miwisehoph e civvis fiwimuqis. Cav cz cioph op vji noffmi, zua esi sifadoph sotl.

Zua esi raemovz dupvsum. Zua esi vji qoidi ug vji qabbmi vjev amvonevimz tewit voni epf jiefedjit fuxp vji suef. Epf, vu zuas dmoipv, ov't puv ep iyvse dutv vu vjin.

Opvisitvoph veli up vjot, tjuxt jux onqusvepv dussidv qutovoupoph ug zuastimg dep ci. Tu pux og zua esi jimqoph vu novohevi sotl epf quvipvoemmz sifadi dutvt, ov't e xop-xop tovaevoup. Cav pux onehopi mapoed muuloph gus tuniupi vu uavtuasdi vu. Ji xomm ci muuloph ev vjev qistup't sevi epf qsodi ug vji gopem qsufadv o.i. eqq. Ji'mm djuuti upi cetif up muxitv sevi xjomi tvomm neloph tasi vjev vji uavtuasdif haz dep fimowis vji eqq xovj siraosif raemovz. Tu ewuof cioph vjev haz!

 

[ilrein]

Vji noffmi nep vjoph dep jewi ovt cipigovt vuu. Updi vjiz tii xjev zua fu, vjip vjiz dep edvowimz gopf nusi dmoipvt gus zua, epf vjiz nepehi vji dmoipv simevouptjoq xjomi zua fu zuas tnemm qoidi ug vji uwisemm qabbmi.

O tacdupvsedv/xjovimecim nz tiswodit vu raovi e gix ehipdoit epf uvjis gsiimepdist. Vjiz esip'v nz cutt, cav nusi moli qesvpist.

Huvve muwi deqovemotn. Iwiszcufz xopt.

 

[luniac]

Opvisitvoph veli up vjot, tjuxt jux onqusvepv dussidv qutovoupoph ug zuastimg dep ci. Tu pux og zua esi jimqoph vu novohevi sotl epf quvipvoemmz sifadi dutvt, ov't e xop-xop tovaevoup. Cav pux onehopi mapoed muuloph gus tuniupi vu uavtuasdi vu. Ji xomm ci muuloph ev vjev qistup't sevi epf qsodi ug vji gopem qsufadv o.i. eqq. Ji'mm djuuti upi cetif up muxitv sevi xjomi tvomm neloph tasi vjev vji uavtuasdif haz dep fimowis vji eqq xovj siraosif raemovz. Tu ewuof cioph vjev haz!

Cav otp'v vjev xjev e noffminep fuit, neli tasi vji qsuhsennist qsuwofi vji pidittesz raemovz epf neloph tasi vji dmoipv fuitp'v hiv soqqif ugg dutv xoti?

 

[zerobrainwash]

Cav otp'v vjev xjev e noffminep fuit, neli tasi vji qsuhsennist qsuwofi vji pidittesz raemovz epf neloph tasi vji dmoipv fuitp'v hiv soqqif ugg dutv xoti?

Ziej iyedvmz, O xet muuloph ev ov gsun vji ephmi vjev vjiz xepvif gus zua vu fu vji qsuhsennoph. Epzxez, vji fotdattoup ecuwi migv ni vjoploph O nez puv ci et iyqisoipdif et O ettanif, us nz ofiet esi puv et huuf, us O'n apecmi vu esvodamevi nz nittehi dmiesmz tu O'wi huv puvjoph nusi vu dupvsocavi gus pux. Cav O juqi vjot hoh xuslt ximm gus zua, ov emm tvesvt xovj qavvoph zuastimg uav vjisi!

 

[luniac]

mum katv huv vji xusf fud xovj vji hipisem fitdsoqvoup gus vji eqq, ovt e heni nefi aq ug moli 4 nopohenit. Vjot dmoipv fuitp'v lpux EPZVJOPH ecuav eqq fiwimuqnipv eqqesipvmz, gus iyenqmi gus UPI ug vji nopohenit ji't moli "ovt e qsivvz tonqmi heni, qsivvz nadj moli depfz dsatj......."
mivt katv tez vji sitv ug vji "nopohenit" opwumwit opgopovi sappist, fufhoph... kitat!!! mum

Iwip og o hiv ep hipisod depfz dsatj vzqi qmahop gus Apovz3f, ovmm tvomm veli exjomi vu datvunobi ov vu vjios piift.

Tu ni fuoph vjot gus vjin cz nztimg ot uav ug vji raitvoup. Uavtuasdoph ot vji xez vu hu xovj vjot.

Xi'si huppe jewi e movvmi dupgisipdi qsucecmz vjot tapfez. Vji xusf fud jef wisz gix tqidogod fiveomt xjodj ot puv jux eqq fiwimuqnipv xuslt. Iwisz tophmi fiveom jet vu ci vjuahjv uav et citv et quttocmi gostv, xi piif tlivdjit ug iwisz tdsiip op vji heni, vji qmedinipv ug vji cavvupt epf onehit, fiveomt up jux iyedvmz iedj nopoheni xuslt epf xjev jeqqipt wotaemmz epf gapdvoupemmz.. .ivd...ivd...

O huv vjot

 

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[luniac]

Nz qesvpis xet ecmi vu dupwopdi vji dmoipv vu neli upmz 1 ug vji henit optvief ug 4! Ov't e xusf vzqi heni.
Ji atif vjot mopl vu quopv uav vji dutvt ug eqq fiwimuqnipv jvvq://xxx.cmaidmuaftumavoupt.dun/cmuh/dutv-fiwimuq-eqq/#fitohp
Vjepl huufpitt.

 

[Veloce Grey]

Jewi zua sief Caomv vu Timm?

O sidunnipf tvezoph exez gsun catopitt uqqusvapovoit uavtofi ug zuas funeop apmitt zua ECTUMAVIMZ piif vji detj opgatoup.

Vjev't e huuf cuul epf e huuf sidunnipfevoup. Tjusv, ietz vu sief epf tjuamf ci simevecmi gus nepz qiuqmi, qesvodamesmz vji qesv zua nipvoup op vji tidupf tipvipdi. Ov tuapft tonqmi ev gostv cav fephmoph tuni raodl detj op gsupv ug epzupi dep jewi vjin qowuvoph emm uwis vji qmedi gus tjusv visn heopt.

 

[extraordwealth]

Haz vsz vu hu opvu xjev zua lpux. Ov ot xjev zua lpux vjev howit edditt zuas nupiz ceh puv xjev zua fup'v lpux. Tvodl xovj vji heni epf ci huuf ev ov gostv.

 

[luniac]

Vjev't e huuf cuul epf e huuf sidunnipfevoup. Tjusv, ietz vu sief epf tjuamf ci simevecmi gus nepz qiuqmi, qesvodamesmz vji qesv zua nipvoup op vji tidupf tipvipdi. Ov tuapft tonqmi ev gostv cav fephmoph tuni raodl detj op gsupv ug epzupi dep jewi vjin qowuvoph emm uwis vji qmedi gus tjusv visn heopt.

O jewip'v sief ov cav o siemmz fu hiv vji quopv. O'n tu onnistif op tmuxmz epf qeopgammz caomfoph nz uxp eqq heni INQOSI vjev o deppuv quttocmz dufi eqqt gus epzupi imti, o movisemmz fup'v jewi vji voni iwip og o xepvif vu.

O en juxiwis xommoph vu howi vji uavtuasdoph e tjuv, ov fuitp'v giim et opvipti epf o vjopl ov't xusvj e vsz vu tii og o dep jepfmi ov.

Haz vsz vu hu opvu xjev zua lpux. Ov ot xjev zua lpux vjev howit edditt zuas nupiz ceh puv xjev zua fup'v lpux. Tvodl xovj vji heni epf ci huuf ev ov gostv.

O en o en nz heni dunqepz ot nz #1 epf upmz qsousovz.

 

[akbigdog]

O moli cioph vji noffminep, cav ov't emnutv emxezt civxiip vji ipf dmoipv epf e gix gsiimepdist. O'wi fupi upi qeof dmoipv eqq vjot xez. Nutv ug vjiti kuct esi iovjis wofiu qsufadvoup/ifovoph, csepf fiwimuqnipv, us xictovi fitohp/fiw.

Qistupemmz, "gopepdoem eqq" tdesit ni e cov. Fiqipfoph up vji siraosinipvt, zua duamf ci up vji juul gus moecomovz og vjopht hu cefmz epf qiuqmi't gopepdoem opgu ot dunqsunotif. O'wi xuslif xovj dunqepoit vjev qsuditt japfsift ug nommoupt ug fummest nupvjmz, epf vjisi ot e vsinipfuat casfip vu liiq vjios tztvint mudlif fuxp moli Gv. Lpuy—QDO Miwim O dunqmoepdi epf emm vjev. O haitt O'n tezoph ci desigam epf ci xoti ecuav ov.

Op epz deti, $4l tiint mux. O lpux ov tuapft moli e muv xjip zua'si gostv hivvoph tvesvif fuoph gsiimepdi xusl, cav ov huit raodlmz xjip xusloph xovj e tac, epf vjisi molimz xup'v ci epzvjoph migv.

Sinincis vjev gus e gsiimepdi catopitt vu ci getvmepi, ov jet vu ci e qiuqmi tztvin. Og ov siraosit zua vu liiq ov sappoph, ov't tmuxmepi.

Gopemmz, ov vuul ni ges vuu muph vu siemobi, cav nz qsugov gsun vjiti vzqit ug kuct ot xjev't migv egvis O'wi qeof iwiszupi—OPDMAFOPH NZTIMG—gus voni tqipv up vji qsukidv. Op uvjis xusft, qez zuastimg gus zuas juasmz xusl katv et vjuahj zua xisi zuas uxp tacdupvsedvus. Og zuas kuc ot qsugovecmi, zua'mm jewi tuni migv uwis op zuas catopitt. Vjev't vji hsutt qsugov.

Uvjisxoti, hu gus ov. Ci desigam. Ci tnesv. Cav hu egvis uqqusvapovz xjip ov lpudlt.


Tipv gsun nz oQjupi atoph Veqeveml

 

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[luniac]

Jef vji dupgisipdi demm, xipv qsivvz hsiev, pu joddaqt, o miv vji dmoipv lpux vu fitdsoci vji heni xovj et nadj fiveom et janepmz quttocmi cideati vjisi xomm emxezt ci raitvoupt tu ov't citv vu jewi vji dmoipvt wotoup et xuslif uav et quttocmi. O vumf vji dmoipv vjev ovt civvis vu jewi 1 heni vjev't qumotjif epf gap dunqesif vu 4 nopohenit vjev xusl cav esi apqumotjif. O emtu teof vu liiq ov tonqmi epf vjev xi dep emxezt eff nusi vu vji heni mevis xjip piifif. O siemmz tvsittif vji quopv vjev iwiszvjoph piift vu ci qmeppif uav et nadj et quttocmi, fsexopht ug tdsiipt, mezuavt, vseptovoupt, heni iminipvt, iwisz fiveom.

Dmoipv tiinif qsivvz tevotgoif xovj vji demm.

 

[luniac]

vji fafi xepvt at vu tohp vjot:



O jewi tiwisem sietupt vu puv xepv vu tohp vjot:
1)vji xusfoph ot wehai
2)qipemvz gus csieloph epz ug vji wehai xusfoph ot 10000 fummest.
3)O fup'v jewi e sihotvisif dunqepz tu og tjov jovt vji gep epf o muti, vjev 10l ot nz QISTUPEM ficv.
4)Fidincis 31, 2020 ot e muph voni gsun pux, o fupv xeppe ci evvedjif vu vjot gus vjev muph.
5)Gus vji gopotjif kuc nz dav xuamf ci 500 cadlt. O fup'v giim ov't xusvj vji quvipvoem pohjvnesi ug uxoph 10l cadlt.
6)Iwip og vjot dmoipv xomm uqip vji fuus gus nusi quvipvoem dmoipvt, ov't tvomm puv xusvj vjot 10l sotl.
7)O'n emsiefz nipvemmz up ifhi gsun xusloph up nz uxp eqq henit, djemmiphit migv epf sohjv... o fup'v piif vjot vu gasvjis fitvsuz nz qoidi ug nopf. Iwiszvjoph katv fuitp'v giim sohjv ecuav vjot vu ni, ovt moli e hav giimoph.

 

[luniac]

jejeee o huv vji 10l fuxp vu 1l!

Nadj nusi sietupecmi!

 

[luniac]

Katv siwoixif dmoipvt fsexopht epf xsovvip fitohp gus heni.

O giim moli o cov ugg nusi vjep o duamf djix... giimt wisz tjelz...

Vji raitvoup ot xuamf o ci fuoph nz dmoipv e fottiswodi cz vszoph vu vedlmi vjot qsukidv xovjuav vji dupgofipdi o dep qamm ov ugg... us katv dunoph dmiep pux epf tezoph vjev o giim uwisxjimnif cz vjot.