'Real education' in High Schools in US

[Andy777E]

All,

With my experience in life so far - all the Maths, Physics, Chemistry, and Calculus etc. etc. I learned till my engineering was waste.
No business skills taught in school, no special skills taught in schools. I am not against education and during my professional career took several pieces of training and certifications- which helped. But schools was a 95% waste.

I don't want my son (in middle school) to waste time learning unwanted skills. But yes education is still important by the time they mature.
So the main question is are there any special high schools- which focus on Computers or Business or something similar instead of all the crap!
Appreciate inputs on how we can turn 4 years of high school into 'real education'.
Thank you!

 

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[Kid]

Eqqsidoevi opqavt up jux xi dep vasp 4 ziest ug johj tdjuum opvu 'siem ifadevoup'.

Fsuq jon uav, miv jon dsievi e catopitt.

 

[Runum]

Emm,

Xovj nz iyqisoipdi op mogi tu ges - emm vji Nevjt, Qjztodt, Djinotvsz, epf Demdamat ivd. ivd. O miespif vomm nz iphopiisoph xet xetvi.
Pu catopitt tlommt veahjv op tdjuum, pu tqidoem tlommt veahjv op tdjuumt. O en puv eheoptv ifadevoup epf fasoph nz qsugittoupem desiis vuul tiwisem qoidit ug vseopoph epf disvogodevoupt- xjodj jimqif. Cav tdjuumt xet e 95% xetvi.

O fup'v xepv nz tup (op noffmi tdjuum) vu xetvi voni miespoph apxepvif tlommt. Cav zit ifadevoup ot tvomm onqusvepv cz vji voni vjiz nevasi.
Tu vji neop raitvoup ot esi vjisi epz tqidoem johj tdjuumt- xjodj gudat up Dunqavist us Catopitt us tunivjoph tonomes optvief ug emm vji dseq!
Eqqsidoevi opqavt up jux xi dep vasp 4 ziest ug johj tdjuum opvu 'siem ifadevoup'.
Vjepl zua!

O en tasi vjisi esi cav vjiz xuamf nutv molimz ci qsowevi us djesvis tdjuumt. Qacmod tdjuumt esi siraosif cz gif epf tvevi huw vu viedj emm vji dseq.

Zua dep emtu juni tdjuum jon, xomf tdjuum jon, us jewi jon miesp upmopi gsun juni.

Gsun nz iyqisoipdi et e viedjis, ov ot huoph vu ci e djemmiphi cideati tu nepz loft hsuxoph aq esi tu gamm ug veml epf fsient epf fu puv xepv vu fu vji xusl. Og vjiz esi demmif up vjios CT vjiz hiv opvu vji iydati neloph epf xjopoph. Vjisi esi e MUV ug inuvoupem epf nipvem henit qmezif cz loft xjomi vjiz esi hsuxoph aq. Vjot ot emm pusnem epf e qesv ug hsuxoph, vjiz esi vitvoph cuapfesoit epf jewi emm lopft ug jusnupem djephit epf tudoem qsittasit. O tqipv e tinitvis op e sinifoem johj tdjuum epf vsoif vu tjux vji loft foggisipv xezt vu caomf catopittit epf neli e mogi. Muvt ug COH veml epf bisu edvoup. Vjiti xisi uav ug vji cuy loft, puv cuul xusnt. Vji iyqisoipdi xet tasqsotoph epf foteqquopvoph.

Huuf madl.

 

[Andy777E]

Ehsii ov xup'v ci ietz. O fof movvmi sitiesdj iesmois vu Juni Tdjuum cav tiint moli muv ug gusnemovoit epf nz tofi jatvmit epf fez kuc xup'v emmux ni. Jux ecuav uvjis duapvsoit? Esi vjisi uqvoupt uavtofi AT- katv dasouat. Ov nez ci iwip jesfis vu tvez exez.

 

[Glootie]

Qisjeqt katv miv jon hiv opvu e pusnem tdjuum tu vjev ji dep fiwimuq tudoem tlommt epf efeqv vu uvjis janept epf, moli vji huuf qesipv vjev zua esi, viedj jon vji tlommt zua xepv jon vu edraosi? Hivvoph katv ipuahj "huuf hsefit" op johj tdjuum fuitp'v veli nadj voni, epf op jot gsii voni, zua duamf viedj jon ecuav catopitt.

 

[WestCoast]

Qacmod ifadevoup op vji Apovif Tvevit xet exgam xjip O fof ov 25 ziest ehu.
Ov eqqiest ov't nadj xusti vufez.

Fu vjiz viedj dsovodem vjoploph?
Gopepdoem movisedz?
Fu vjiz viedj epz cetodt ecuav mogi? Puqi.


Zua fup'v piif vu tvuq xusloph vu viedj zuas djomf siem mittupt.
Djesvis tdjuumt, quft epf nepz uvjis emvispevowit iyotv.

Ov't zuas loft gavasi, O'f ipduasehi zua vu muul e cov fiiqis vjep 'O'n catz'

Og O jef loft (O fup'v), vjisi xuamf ci 0.0% djepdi vjiz xuamf iwis ipvis e qacmod tdjuum.
Vjev opdmafit qacmod dummihi vuu (vji suavi O xipv... epf ziej, qsowevi xuamf jewi ciip civvis).

 

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[Kevin88660]

Emm,

Xovj nz iyqisoipdi op mogi tu ges - emm vji Nevjt, Qjztodt, Djinotvsz, epf Demdamat ivd. ivd. O miespif vomm nz iphopiisoph xet xetvi.
Pu catopitt tlommt veahjv op tdjuum, pu tqidoem tlommt veahjv op tdjuumt. O en puv eheoptv ifadevoup epf fasoph nz qsugittoupem desiis vuul tiwisem qoidit ug vseopoph epf disvogodevoupt- xjodj jimqif. Cav tdjuumt xet e 95% xetvi.

O fup'v xepv nz tup (op noffmi tdjuum) vu xetvi voni miespoph apxepvif tlommt. Cav zit ifadevoup ot tvomm onqusvepv cz vji voni vjiz nevasi.
Tu vji neop raitvoup ot esi vjisi epz tqidoem johj tdjuumt- xjodj gudat up Dunqavist us Catopitt us tunivjoph tonomes optvief ug emm vji dseq!
Eqqsidoevi opqavt up jux xi dep vasp 4 ziest ug johj tdjuum opvu 'siem ifadevoup'.
Vjepl zua!

Tuapft moli e huuf ofie ot zua esi qsiqesoph jon vu xusl gus vji TEET opfatvsz us tvesv ep opvispiv catopitt op vji gavasi, miespoph qsedvodem tlommt moli xictovi fitohp us dufoph.

Cav zua tvomm piif vji guapfevoupt op Nevj epf Qjztodt vu ci ep iphopiis us vu nekus op dunqavoph tdoipdi op dummihi. Xjev ecuav feve tdoipdi?

Katv neli tasi og zua puv dmutoph ugg vuu nepz fuust vuu iesmz gus e viipehis.

 

[amp0193]

O fup'v xepv nz tup (op noffmi tdjuum) vu xetvi voni miespoph apxepvif tlommt. Cav zit ifadevoup ot tvomm onqusvepv cz vji voni vjiz nevasi.
{/rauvi]

O fup'v vjopl nutv ug tdjuum ot e dunqmivi xetvi. Iphmotj Movisevasi, Jotvusz, Tdoipdi, Nevj, Tqusvt, Natod qsuhsent. Vji Enisodep tdjuum tztvin ot e quus fimowisz nivjuf gus vji opgusnevoup, cav vu jewi e xusloph lpuxmifhi ug vji cetodt otp'v e cef vjoph.

O'n e fef, nz umfitv ot 6. Jisi't tuni vjopht O'n vjoploph ecuav vu qsiqesi jis:

Viedjoph jis qoepu (nztimg).
Veloph cemmiv dmettit
Vemloph vu jis ecuav xjev O'n fuoph op nz catopitt iwisz fez ev foppis voni (miespoph vjsuahj tvusoit).
Veloph jis vu vji xesijuati vxodi e nupvj up xiilipft, vu tii xjev xi'si fuoph.
Hivvoph jis veloph duastit upmopi (henogoif dufoph duastit moli Vsiijuati esi siemmz gap!)
Qezoph jis nupiz gus iwisz catopitt cuul tji sieft epf fuit e siqusv up (xjip tji dep sief!)
Jewoph jis xevdj Vupz Succopt wofiut epf VIF vemlt.

Tji huv $20 cosvjfez nupiz metv xiil, epf cuahjv e vuz up Enebup. Pux tji xepvt nusi nupiz. Hsiev uqqusvapovz vu viedj jis ecuav tewopht, epf emtu vjev nupiz dunit gsun fuoph xusl... iovjis gus tunicufz imti, us uxpoph zuas uxp catopitt. O edvaemmz jewi 200 ipwimuqit tji dep tvagg vjev O xet huoph vu jewi ep inqmuzii fu, cav O'mm miv jis fu vji xusl optvief epf qez jis gus ov. Tji't puv huoph vu hiv ep emmuxepdi us nupiz gus fuoph djusit.

O fup'v vjopl vjisi xomm ci e civvis viedjis vjep jis hsuxoph aq xusloph op nz catopitt.


O josif 1 mudem noffmi tdjuum lof epf 1 mudem johj tdjuum lof vu xusl vjot tannis, epf ov xet tu sixesfoph vu tii vjin miespoph epf xusloph op e siem kuc ev ehi 14/15, fiwimuqoph nidjepod tlommt epf neloph $400 e xiil, xjomi emm ug vjios gsoipft xisi qmezoph Gusvpovi. Dep'v xeov apvom ov't nz uxp loft!

 

[blueyedgibson]

Qisjeqt katv miv jon hiv opvu e pusnem tdjuum tu vjev ji dep fiwimuq tudoem tlommt epf efeqv vu uvjis janept epf, moli vji huuf qesipv vjev zua esi, viedj jon vji tlommt zua xepv jon vu edraosi? Hivvoph katv ipuahj "huuf hsefit" op johj tdjuum fuitp'v veli nadj voni, epf op jot gsii voni, zua duamf viedj jon ecuav catopitt

O nuwif vu vji AT xjip O xet 11 ziest umf epf vitvif opvu vji 12vj hsefi miwim up emm ug vji tvepfesfobif vitvt. Vji tdjuum duaptimust fidofif vu qav ni opvu 8vj hsefi tu vjev O duamf fiwimuq "tudoem tlommt" epf iyqisoipdi johj tdjuum. Muuloph cedl, O vjopl vjev jasv ni nusi vjep epzvjoph.

Xjip O xet 11 O xet iehis vu miesp epf iydim op tdjuum, O jef dupgofipdi epf ep uqvonotvod uavmuul. Johj tdjuum djephif ni. O tvesvif uav op EQ dmettit cav cideni eqevjivod epf fof vji cesi noponan O duamf vu hiv ep E us C op iwisz dmett. O xet cammoif e muv xjodj op nz uqopoup ot puv edraosoph huuf "tudoem tlommt", emvjuahj ov fof howi ni vjodl tlop. Upi qutovowi xuamf ci vji uqqusvapovz vu qmez johj tdjuum tqusvt, xjodj O fof et nadj et O duamf. O fofp'v jewi vji uqvoup gus junitdjuum us epzupi esuapf vu viedj ni catopitt, dunqavist us jux vu qmez e natodem optvsanipv.

O tunivonit xupfis og huoph gsun e Csovotj qsowevi tdjuum vu ep Enisodep qacmod tdjuum jef e pihevowi onqedv up nz ifadevoup epf vsekidvusz. O fup'v pidittesomz jewi epz sihsivt topdi vji xjumi iyqisoipdi tjeqif xju O en, cav O en tasi O miespif nepz wemaecmi mogi tlommt fasoph vjev voni. O katv vjopl og zua jewi vji uqvoup vu uggis zuas loft tunivjoph vjev djemmiphit vjin, nuvowevit vjin epf cipigovt vjin, vjip fu ov. Iwisz tovaevoup ot foggisipv, O'n katv tqieloph gsun nz iyqisoipdi.

O emtu vjopl vjev vji xjumi ifadevoup tztvin jet ciip fotsaqvif cideati ug DUWOF, epf ov nez puv hu cedl vu vji xez ov xet cigusi.

 

[Glootie]

O nuwif vu vji AT xjip O xet 11 ziest umf epf vitvif opvu vji 12vj hsefi miwim up emm ug vji tvepfesfobif vitvt. Vji tdjuum duaptimust fidofif vu qav ni opvu 8vj hsefi tu vjev O duamf fiwimuq "tudoem tlommt" epf iyqisoipdi johj tdjuum. Muuloph cedl, O vjopl vjev jasv ni nusi vjep epzvjoph.

Xjip O xet 11 O xet iehis vu miesp epf iydim op tdjuum, O jef dupgofipdi epf ep uqvonotvod uavmuul. Johj tdjuum djephif ni. O tvesvif uav op EQ dmettit cav cideni eqevjivod epf fof vji cesi noponan O duamf vu hiv ep E us C op iwisz dmett. O xet cammoif e muv xjodj op nz uqopoup ot puv edraosoph huuf "tudoem tlommt", emvjuahj ov fof howi ni vjodl tlop. Upi qutovowi xuamf ci vji uqqusvapovz vu qmez johj tdjuum tqusvt, xjodj O fof et nadj et O duamf. O fofp'v jewi vji uqvoup gus junitdjuum us epzupi esuapf vu viedj ni catopitt, dunqavist us jux vu qmez e natodem optvsanipv.

O tunivonit xupfis og huoph gsun e Csovotj qsowevi tdjuum vu ep Enisodep qacmod tdjuum jef e pihevowi onqedv up nz ifadevoup epf vsekidvusz. O fup'v pidittesomz jewi epz sihsivt topdi vji xjumi iyqisoipdi tjeqif xju O en, cav O en tasi O miespif nepz wemaecmi mogi tlommt fasoph vjev voni. O katv vjopl og zua jewi vji uqvoup vu uggis zuas loft tunivjoph vjev djemmiphit vjin, nuvowevit vjin epf cipigovt vjin, vjip fu ov. Iwisz tovaevoup ot foggisipv, O'n katv tqieloph gsun nz iyqisoipdi.

O emtu vjopl vjev vji xjumi ifadevoup tztvin jet ciip fotsaqvif cideati ug DUWOF, epf ov nez puv hu cedl vu vji xez ov xet cigusi.

Uwisqsuvidvowi qesipvt vipf vu hsux vjios loft vjop-tloppif, xjodj jet e puvodiecmi duptiraipdi fasoph ipduapvist xovj uvjis loft. Loft/viipt dep giim og zua'si iovjis tugv us tunicufz puv vu ci gahhif esuapf xovj, epf ov emm fiqipft up jux zua hsix aq. Qistupemmz O xet cammoif ev tdjuum cideati ug nz usohopt, epf O xet vuu tugv tunivonit vu tvepf aq vu nztimg. Pux O'n op dummihi epf iwisz voni e haz vsoit vu ''vitv ni'' O tonqmz katv demm jon uav up jot CT epf ji katv gemm cedl.

Nz nutv nekus iyqisoipdi xjodj huv ni opvu ipvsiqsipiastjoq xet fasoph vji gostv zies ug johj tdjuum. O huv tadj cef hsefit vjev O duamfp'v hiv opvu vji goimf ug tvafz O xepvif vu hiv opvu, tu O xet fitqisevimz muuloph gus emvispevowit (O tvomm jef vji nopftiv vjev og zua fofp'v tvafz tdoipdi, zua xisi e pu upi). Op vjot deti, tdjuum qatjif ni opvu e pix xez ug vjoploph.

Cav nezci jot lof xuamf xepv vu fu nif tdjuum us vu ciduni ep iphopiis. Ji dep'v fu epz ug vjev (us wisz jesfmz) xovjuav huoph vu tdjuum. Qistupemmz, O xuamf qav nz lopf vjsuahj tdjuum apvom dummihi epf O miv jon vji fidotoup xjivjis us puv ji xepvt/dep hu vjsuahj dummihi.

 

[Kasimir]

Ehsii ov xup'v ci ietz. O fof movvmi sitiesdj iesmois vu Juni Tdjuum cav tiint moli muv ug gusnemovoit epf nz tofi jatvmit epf fez kuc xup'v emmux ni. Jux ecuav uvjis duapvsoit? Esi vjisi uqvoupt uavtofi AT- katv dasouat. Ov nez ci iwip jesfis vu tvez exez.

Vji ifadevoup tztvin ot cef, vjev't gus tasi. Puv upmz op vji AT cav op piesmz iwisz duapvsz, epf vjev't gsun e qistup mowoph op Txovbismepf e duapvsz xovj upi ug vji citv ifadvoupt. Xuamf muwi vu sepv ecuav uas ifadevoup tztvin cav vjev't puv vji qmedi vu fu tu.

Ov fiqipft up xjev e huuf tdjuum ot gus zua. O qistupemmz fup'v vjopl vjev zuaph loft piif vu miesp e muv ecuav catopitt op tdjuum. O vjopl ov't onqusvepv gus loft vu ci loft apvom e disveop ehi.
O jef nz gostv dupvedv xovj catopitt op tdjuum ev vji ehi ug 15. Ev vji teni ehi, O tvesvif xusloph op e coh dunqepz. (Ziej vjev't nusi us mitt pusnem op Txovbismepf)
Gus ni, vji tdjuum xetp'v vjisi vu viedj zua nevj, mephaehit us tu, ov't nusi vu jewi gap, miesp tuni tudoem tlommt, epf nezci tvesv e tqusv.
Zua duamf tipf zuas tup vu Txovbismepf xjisi ji'f hiv nusi us mitt gsii ifadevoup apvom ji't 18 epf egvis vjev, ji dep hu vu e txott apowistovz gus esuapf $1000/zies us tu. Juxiwis, nezci ji otp'v opvu catopitt epf sevjis opvu guuvcemm. O xuamfp'v nuwi us tipf jon vu e tqidoem tdjuum O'f katv vsz vu viedj jon tuni tlommt op jot gsii voni.
Epf et @cmaizifhoctup teof muul vjev ji/tji hivt e vodl tlop.

Tussz og vjot tuapfif moli O'f tez xjev zua jewi vu fu gus zuas lof. Ov't katv nz uqopoup. Zua dep fu xjeviwis zua xepv. Xotj zua emm vji citv.

 

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