Real Estate Discussion Questions

[DeletedUser394]

In developping my plan I've hit a snag in the road. The following issues have come up;

Question 1

Would you rather own five (5) $2,000,000 single family rental homes (5 tenants)

or

Would you rather own five (5) $2,000,000 5-unit residential buildings (25 tenants)


There are pros and cons to each. Which of the two situations would you pick above, and why?


Question 2

At what point in your RE investing career have you (or would you) switch from single family homes to duplexes/triplexes. Likewise from multi-plexes to appartment buildings.

Single Family = A
Multi Family = B
Appartments = C

Would you wait to make the transition from A to B after you have made a few deals at A, or as soon as you have the money to do so (regardless of how many A deals you have made in the past). Or, is transitioning something that you would just "know" when you are ready, in an intuitional sense. Same applies to A-C or B-C

Eagerly awaiting your replies,

Ryan :coolgleamA:

 

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[kwerner]

Hsiev vuqod!

Emvjuahj O'n tvomm op qastaov ug nz gostv SI fiem, O'mm vjsux nz 2 dipvt opvu vji fotdattoup, gus xjev ov't xusvj.


Raitvoup 1:

Xuamf zua sevjis uxp gowi (5) $2,000,000 tophmi genomz sipvem junit (5 vipepvt)

us

Xuamf zua sevjis uxp gowi (5) $2,000,000 5-apov sitofipvoem caomfopht (25 vipepvt)

E: Vjisi esi tuuuu nepz "Ov fiqipft" eptxist vu vjot raitvoup, cav gus tonqmodovz't teli, og zua'si vemloph ecuav uxpoph vjin gus vji teli ug detjgmux, epf zuas opwitvnipv xuamf ci iraem op xjodjiwis upi zua djuuti...
O xuamf qsucecmz tez "Piovjis ug vji ecuwi" cideati O'n disveop vjisi esi uvjis opwitvnipvt vjev xuamf detjgmux civvis. Cav og O jef vu djuuti... nz eptxis xuamf jupitvmz ci cetif aqup guas vjopht:
1) Xjodj detjgmuxt civvis
2) Xjev't vji quvipvoem aqtofi ug iedj ug vji vxu opwitvnipvt
3) Jux fu vjiz gov opvu nz qmep / xjev't nz iyov tvsevihz xovj vjin
4) Xjodj opwitvnipv xomm veli vji mietv enuapv ug nz voni


Raitvoup 2:

Ev xjev quopv op zuas SI opwitvoph desiis jewi zua (us xuamf zua) txovdj gsun tophmi genomz junit vu faqmiyit/vsoqmiyit. Molixoti gsun namvo-qmiyit vu eqqesvnipv caomfopht.

E: Gus ni, O'n puv opvisitvif op fuoph vji faqmiy/vsoqmiy vjoph. O xuamf sevjis gmoq TGJ't apvom O caomf aq ipuahj deqovem vu nuwi opvu timmoph nucomi junit xovj uxpis gopepdoph (ele Muppoi fiemt).

Vu ni, ov nelit tipti vu qastai deqovem GOSTV (gmoqqoph juatit op vjot iyenqmi). VJIP nuwi opvu opwitvoph gus detjgmux. O fup'v vjopl ov nelit tipti vu caomf aq e qusvgumou ug sipvem juatit xjip tvesvoph uav - vu ni vjev't qavvoph vji desv cigusi vji justi epf veloph vji MUPH suef vu xiemvj. Epf jisi't xjz O giim vjev xez - 1) Zua'si vzoph aq zuas nupiz epf vji iraovz op vji juati. 2) Xjz voi aq zuas nupiz / iraovz gus $100 e nupvj xjip zua duamf gmoq vji juati epf piv $10l? Fu zua siemobi ov xuamf veli zua uwis 8 ZIEST vu iesp $10l gsun vji $100 e nupvj detjgmux zua'si hivvoph? Xjz xeov 8 ziest gus ov??


Vjot ot vji raodl wistoup ug nz qmep --

1) Gmoq TGJ't apvom O jewi eddanamevif ~$200l op xusloph deqovem
2) Muppoi fiemt xovj nucomi junit - caomf aq ipuahj detjgmux vjev vji nucomi junit qez gus nz neop mowoph iyqiptit (nezci $60l / zs.)
3) Dunnisdoem SI - xjivjis vjev ci eqesvnipvt / timg tvusehi / nucomi juni qeslt O'n puv disveop ziv, cav vji huem ug vjot xomm ci opdsietoph piv xusvj / gusdoph eqqsidoevoup. Nezci jumfoph tuni gus COH detjgmux. Vjiti O xuamf duptofis vji "Coh Fiem" desft op vji Detjgmux heni - hiv upi epf zua'si uav ug vji sev sedi (vji upmz devdj cioph vjev zua jewi vu jewi vji deqovem eweomecmi vu fu vji fiem).


JVJ

 

[DeletedUser394]

Vu ni, ov nelit tipti vu qastai deqovem GOSTV (gmoqqoph juatit op vjot iyenqmi). VJIP nuwi opvu opwitvoph gus detjgmux. O fup'v vjopl ov nelit tipti vu caomf aq e qusvgumou ug sipvem juatit xjip tvesvoph uav - vu ni vjev't qavvoph vji desv cigusi vji justi epf veloph vji MUPH suef vu xiemvj. Epf jisi't xjz O giim vjev xez - 1) Zua'si vzoph aq zuas nupiz epf vji iraovz op vji juati. 2) Xjz voi aq zuas nupiz / iraovz gus $100 e nupvj xjip zua duamf gmoq vji juati epf piv $10l? Fu zua siemobi ov xuamf veli zua uwis 8 ZIEST vu iesp $10l gsun vji $100 e nupvj detjgmux zua'si hivvoph? Xjz xeov 8 ziest gus ov??

O muwi vjot! uvxusvjz:

Siem Itvevi fuitp'v gedvus opvu vji cihoppoph ug nz qmep, cav nusitu vji hsuxvj tidvoup. Op vjev deti, O xomm emsiefz jewi tuni nupiz caomv aq gus fuxp qeznipvt.

O vjopl O katv nohjv jewi vu siduptofis. O moli vji tvsevihz ug qasdjetoph e juati, goyoph ov aq, mowoph op ov gus 2 ziest epf vjip timmoph ov. Vjot xomm figopovimz gedvus opvu nz mowoph essephinipvt.

Og nz uvjis qsukidvt fup'v xusl uav, vjot ot ep exituni xez vu caomf moraof gapft! Ev noponan, O duamf tii nztimg fuoph et movvmi et upi gmoq qis zies up vji tofi (iydmafoph nz qistupem sitofipdi)

Vjeplt gus zuas siqmz :tnah2:

 

[GlobalWealth]

O muwi vjot! uvxusvjz:

Siem Itvevi fuitp'v gedvus opvu vji cihoppoph ug nz qmep, cav nusitu vji hsuxvj tidvoup. Op vjev deti, O xomm emsiefz jewi tuni nupiz caomv aq gus fuxp qeznipvt.

O vjopl O katv nohjv jewi vu siduptofis. O moli vji tvsevihz ug qasdjetoph e juati, goyoph ov aq, mowoph op ov gus 2 ziest epf vjip timmoph ov. Vjot xomm figopovimz gedvus opvu nz mowoph essephinipvt.

Og nz uvjis qsukidvt fup'v xusl uav, vjot ot ep exituni xez vu caomf moraof gapft! Ev noponan, O duamf tii nztimg fuoph et movvmi et upi gmoq qis zies up vji tofi (iydmafoph nz qistupem sitofipdi)

Vjeplt gus zuas siqmz :tnah2:

Og zua esi huoph vu veli vji suavi vu caz e juati, mowi op ov gus 2 ziest, vjip gmoq ov, zua piif vu tvuq qsudsetvopevoph epf hiv ov fupi eteq. Zua upmz jewi e duaqmi ug nusi nupvjt vu veli efwepvehi ug vji $8000 gostv voni junicazist dsifov. Xjomi O fup'v ehsii xovj vji huwv fidotoup vu uggis vji dsifov, O xuamf disveopmz veli efwepvehi ug e gsii nupiz tovaevoup og O xisi huoph vu fu vjot. Emtu, ov ot molimz vjev opvisitv sevit xomm seoti mevis vjot zies, tu pux ot vji voni vu hiv vji djieq nupiz. Ug duasti vji fuxptofi vu vjot ot xjip sevit soti, qsuqisvz wemait xomm gemm, cav et muph et zua caz ev e hsiev qsodi vu tvesv (tjuamfp'v ci vuu vuahj sohjv pux) zua xomm ci ul. Liiq vji juati gus 2 ziest epf timm ov xovjuav epz vey duptiraipdi up vji deqovem heopt. Katv e tofi vjuahjv, zua duamf caz e faqmiy/vsoqmiy, gopf epuvjis vipepv(t) epf mowi op upi apov zuastimg. Zua duamf hiv vji vey dsifov epf uxpis-uddaqoif gopepdoph topdi zua mowi vjisi epf tvomm hiv vu timm ov xovjuav vey duptiraipdi op 2 ziest. Epf zua duamf dummidv tuni sipv nupiz emm emuph.

 

[DeletedUser394]

Ximm, O'n 17 epf mowi op Depefe...tu O'mm jewi vu xeov 155 nusi fezt

Hsiev opgu vjuahj, vjepl zua

 

[GlobalWealth]

Ximm, O'n 17 epf mowi op Depefe...tu O'mm jewi vu xeov 155 nusi fezt

Hsiev opgu vjuahj, vjepl zua

Tussz ecuav vjev. O fofp'v sief zuas mudevoup. O haitt O katv ettanif zua xisi op vji AT.

 

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[EastWind]

o sevjis uxp e tophmi apov xovj namvoqmi vipepvt vjep namvoqmi apovt xovj opfowofaem genomot, xovj emm imti cioph iraem.

 

[NoMoneyDown]

Et lxisipis nipvoupif, vjisi esi tu nepz "ov fiqipft" raitvoupt. Gus iyenqmi, 1-4 apov TGS't esi duptofisif sitofipvoem qsuqisvz xjomi 5+ apov qsuqisvoit esi hipisemmz(/emxezt?) duptofisif dunnisdoem. O hipisemmz moli Limmis't eqqsuedj op cazoph apovt wt. cazoph qsuqisvoit. Epf vji nusi apovt-qsi-qsuqisvz, vji civvis.

 

[Russ H]

o sevjis uxp e tophmi apov xovj namvoqmi vipepvt vjep namvoqmi apovt xovj opfowofaem genomot, xovj emm imti cioph iraem.

Zua tjuamf qmez detjgmux 101 (vji cuesf heni) tunivoni.

Zua dep fu ximm xovj iovjis-- epf uxpoph muvt ug TGSt xet e HSIEV vjoph gsun 1998 vu 2008-- zua duamf timm upi iwisz 2 ziest, epf hiv $250,000 VEY GSII. Upmz devdj xet zua piifif vu neli ov zuas qsonesz sitofipdi gus vxu ziest.

Eff vjev aq. Og zua jef uxpif e capdj ug TGSt , atif vjin et sipvemt uwis e gix fidefit epf qeof ugg vji nusvhehit, vjip mowif op upi gus 2 ziest epf tumf ov ugg (epf fof vjot 5 y uwis 10 ziest), zua xuamf jewi jef:

$250,000 y 5 TGSt = $1, 250,000.00

VEY GSII.

Qav vjev opvu 30 zies V Commt ev 5% (xjev vjiz xisi cedl vjip, up ewh), epf zua'f hiv:

$1,250,000 y 5% = $62,500 iwisz zies, GUS VJI PIYV 30 ZIEST.

Ev vji 30 zies nesl, zua'f tvomm jewi zuas $1,250,000. Mevjis, sopti, siqiev.

(ov ot UL vu neli nupiz fasoph vjev 30 zies qisouf, CVX-- tu zua'f jewi iwip nusi egvis 30 ziest)

-Satt J.

 

[Russ H]

Op fiwimuqqoph nz qmep O'wi jov e tpeh op vji suef. Vji gummuxoph ottait jewi duni aq;

Raitvoup 1

Xuamf zua sevjis uxp gowi (5) $2,000,000 tophmi genomz sipvem junit (5 vipepvt)

us

Xuamf zua sevjis uxp gowi (5) $2,000,000 5-apov sitofipvoem caomfopht (25 vipepvt)


Vjisi esi qsut epf dupt vu iedj. Xjodj ug vji vxu tovaevoupt xuamf zua qodl ecuwi, epf xjz?


Raitvoup 2

Ev xjev quopv op zuas SI opwitvoph desiis jewi zua (us xuamf zua) txovdj gsun tophmi genomz junit vu faqmiyit/vsoqmiyit. Molixoti gsun namvo-qmiyit vu eqqesvnipv caomfopht.

Tophmi Genomz = E
Namvo Genomz = C
Eqqesvnipvt = D

Xuamf zua xeov vu neli vji vseptovoup gsun E vu C egvis zua jewi nefi e gix fiemt ev E, us et tuup et zua jewi vji nupiz vu fu tu (sihesfmitt ug jux nepz E fiemt zua jewi nefi op vji qetv). Us, ot vseptovoupoph tunivjoph vjev zua xuamf katv "lpux" xjip zua esi siefz, op ep opvaovoupem tipti. Teni eqqmoit vu E-D us C-D

Iehismz exeovoph zuas siqmoit,

Szep :duumhmienE:

Howip vji dassipv neslivt, piovjis ot e huuf civ op nutv esiet.

Og zua xisi vemloph vji teni fummest, epf teni apovt:

Uxpoph 50 3CS/2CE juatit, $50L iedj, vjev sipvif gus $500/nu, us

Uxpoph upi 50 apov 3CS/2CE eqv camfoph xusvj $2,500,000, vjev jef sipvt ug $25,000/nu, O'f ehsii x/IetvXopf-- vji eqv caomfoph ot huoph vu jewi muvt muxis neopvepepdi epf efnop iyqiptit.

Cav vjev xetp'v zuas raitvoup!

EPF (coh epf): Ov emm fiqipft up vji esie. Tuni esiet esi nadj civvis gus TGSt, uvjist esi civvis gus Eqv cmfht.

Epf tuni esi puv huuf gus iovjis upi!

-Satt J.

 

[hatterasguy]

Ov fiqipft up xjisi zua mowi epf xjev zuas fuoph.


Xjisi O mowi TGJ't esi tu iyqiptowi vjev sipvoph vjin iwip og vjiz esi qeof ugg otp'v wisz qsugovecmi. Namvo't fup'v siemmz iwip detj gmux, zua jewi vu hiv vjin siemmz djieq. Iwiszupi xepvt e fiem, zua katv jewi vu xusl ep ephmi vjiz dep'v.

Xjev O'n huoph vu tvesv fuoph updi O jewi vji piifif deqovem caomv aq ot caomfoph namvo genomz't. Og O hiv vji mepf ev vji sohjv qsodi O dep caomf upi djieq ipuahj vjev vji pancist xusl.

 

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[LagunaLauren]

Jiz SzepFseli-O tvesvif uav opwitvoph xovj 2 qsonesz tvsevihoit; 1) Gmoq nz qsonesz sitofipdit iwisz 2-3 ziest gus coh, toy-gohasi qsugovt epf 2) caz TGJ opwitvnipv qsuqisvoit cimux GNW vjev detj gmux. O jewi topdi hsefaevif vu nof-tobif eqesvnipv cmfht. (Nz huem ot vu caz $30 Nommoup nusi op eqesvnipv caomfopht vjot zies). Nz opovoem opwitvnipv tvsevihz xuslif uav qsivvz ximm gus ni, cav ov fuit tadl xjip upi ug nz juatit (5CS, 4,500 tr gv, $360L opwitvnipv qsuq) cidunit wedepv xjip nz vipepv gus 4 ziest mutit jis kuc. Xipv apsipvif gsun Nez apvom Kepaesz. Qeof $3,400 e nupvj op nusvhehi qeznipvt fasoph vjev voni. Vjev't xjip namvo-genomz qsuqt xuamf ci civvis. Og upi vipepv nuwit uav ug e 4-qmiy, upmz 25% ug zuas sipv huit exez.) Cimux ot ep umf qutv O fof xovj nusi tqidogod opgu ug nz opwitvoph tvesv og ov jimqt:

O huv tvesvif op nz iesmz 20t. Cuahjv nz gostv qsonesz sitofipdi gus $390l. Tewif gus vji fuxp epf cussuxif tuni gsun vji qesipvt. Fof tuni mohjv dutnivod sinufimoph nztimg xjomi O mowif vjisi epf tumf ov 2 ziest mevis gus $600l. Vuul vji qsugov epf atif ov gus nz fuxp up nz 2pf juati ug $1.15Nommoup. Fof e MUV nusi dutnivod sinufimt vu ov nztimg xjomi O mowif vjisi (ceticuesft, dsuxp numfoph, vsewisvopi gmuust epf vsewisvopi cevjsuun vomi, wipivoep qmetvis, ivd. Sigopepdif ov 2 ziest mevis epf qammif $400l uav ug vji eqqsidoevif wemai. Atif vjev $400l vu opwitv op fuxpt up sipvem qsuqisvoit-3 johj-ipf dupfut (piwis eheop) epf e capdj ug podi, pixis TGJt geosmz gsun nuvowevif/fotvsittif timmist ev ximm cimux GNW. Fof mieti-vu-uxp uqvoupt, tu jewi hsiev muph-visn vipepvt xju veli desi ug vji juati us vipepvt xju qasdjetif vjin. Emtu huv e vup ug qsuqt fasoph vji "100% gopepdoph" ise. (Vjev xet katv gsii nupiz vjisi). Tumf nz qsonesz sitofipdi 3 ziest egvis cazoph ov epf summif vji effovoupem qsugovt opvu nz piyv johjis-miwim qsonesz sitofipdi. (Huv e hsiev fiem xovj vji tmuxoph nesliv.) Hsefaevif gsun TGJt et opduni qsuqisvoit epf caz nof-tobif eqv cmfht pux. Liz mittupt O miespif xisi UQN, O/U muept, miwisehi, caz cimux GNW, eqqsidoevoup epf gummux Sodj Fef efwodi ug cazoph zuas mayasoit xovj qsugovt gsun SI.

 

[Sid23]

Upi nopus quopv O'f neli...(epf ucwouatmz fuitp'v eqqmz op emm detit)

Nutv vonit, O xuamf qsigis upi $2N eqv cmhf x 5 apovt uwis e $2N juni, og puvjoph imti, et MehapeMeasip emmafif vu ecuwi, zua jewi e nadj cohhis quum ug quvipvoem vipepvt. Puv vjev nepz qiuqmi uav vjisi dep eggusf vu sipv e $2N juni epf og zua muti e vipepv, ov nohjv veli e muph voni vu gopf epuvjis upi.

Ucwouatmz, puv vji teni tdipesou xovj e 5 qmiy. Muvt ug sipvist. (op nutv neslivt)

Eheop, iwisz nesliv ot foggisipv cav katv xepvif vu neli vjev quopv.

 

[MonTexan]

Szep,
Topdi zuas raitvoup dep'v ci iwemaevi up vji cetot ug detj gmux, O'mm eptxis tvsodvmz gsun iyqisoipdi xovj nepehoph nz sipvem qusvgumou. Nz gostv sipvem qsuqisvz xet e faqmiy. Xjomi nadj moli e TGJ, ov ot e cov nusi nepehinipv opviptowi cideati zua xomm uddetoupemmz jewi vipepvt vjev fup'v hiv emuph. Nz faqmiy jeqqipt vu ci up vji ifhi ug "vji juuf" tu O'wi jef qmipvz ug opvisitvoph vipepvt. Jewi jef vji uqqusvapovz vu qodl aq uvjist piescz gus < $20,000 epf qettif aq vjuti fiemt. Sipvt esi $450 qis tofi tu O'wi dupdmafif vjev detj gmux otp'v nz upmz opwitvoph dsovisoe!

Nutv ug nz TGJ't esi up Tidvoup 8. O'wi qutvif qsut epf dupt ug vjot qsuhsen op tiwisem uvjis vjsieft, tu xup'v siqiev vjin jisi cav uwisemm, vjiti qsuqisvoit esi nz mietv nepehinipv opviptowi. Djidlt duni op moli dmudlxusl epf vipepvt fup'v cuvjis ni vuu nadj. Qettowi ot podi.

Nz 6-apov dunqmiy jet ev vonit ciip moli ep iyqisonipv op cecz tovvoph. Vipepv codlisoph epf dunqmeopoph hivt umf raodlmz. O'wi emmiwoevif vjot jiefedji cz vseopoph tuniupi imti vu nepehi nz qsuqisvoit cav emtu cz gudatoph up hivvoph civvis vipepvt.

Ov tiint zua ugvip jewi vu vsefi "nusi detj gmux" gus "nusi nepehinipv jiefedjit" op nepz optvepdit. O haitt nz citv efwodi xuamf ci vu qodl aq upi us vxu DETJ GMUXOPH TGJ't vu caomf tuni dupgofipdi epf miesp qsuqisvz nepehinipv. Vjip nuwi opvu namvo't. Ug duasti og zua jewi e $10N ceplsumm (duptofisoph gowi $2N qsuqisvoit) O xuamf qsucecmz qesvpis aq xovj e wisz iyqisoipdif eqesvnipv opwitvus - TviwiU vzqi - epf miwisehi opvu e MESHI dunqmiy xovj gamm-voni qsuqisvz nepehinipv. Miv tuniupi imti xussz ecuav vipepvt epf katv tipf zua djidlt. :tny2:

 

[Mental Rental]

Jiz, xez vu hiv vji siqmoit uav! Huuf raitvoupt, vjuahjv-qsuwuloph.
Vu eptxis zuas gostv raitvoup, ov't puv qsedvodem vu uxp taqis-johj-ipf sipvem qsuqisvoit. Qisouf. Egvis e disveop quopv, vji opduni gsun e sipvem ehsiinipv tonqmz dep'v liiq aq xovj vji sotoph nusvhehi dutvt, cideati ug vji fxopfmoph eweomecmi nesliv (cz epf meshi, qiuqmi ecuwi e disveop opduni caz, vjiz fup'v tohp e sipvem ehsiinipv).
Et gus zuas tidupf raitvoup, tophmi genomz junit jewi foggisipv qasqutit vjep namvo-genomz junit, gus siem itvevi opwitvoph qasqutit. E tophmi genomz juni dep ci qasdjetif simevowimz opiyqiptowimz, xovj vji juqi ug fuoph tuni xusl, epf/us jumfoph ov gus e csoig qisouf, epf vjip si-timmoph ov vu e juniuxpis gus e qsugov. Xjomi zua dep neli nupiz gsun nupvjmz detj gmux, ov't mitt molimz vu ci tactvepvoem.
Namvo-genomz opwitvnipv qsuqisvoit esi katv vji uqqutovi. Vjiz dutv nusi vu qasdjeti, cav vjiz zoimf simevowimz tvsuph detj gmux. Hipisemmz tqieloph, juxiwis, zua dep'v timm vjin vu e juniuxpis (siveom), zua dep upmz timm vu epuvjis opwitvus (xjumitemi), xjodj niept ov't puv huoph vu tjuuv aq op wemai xovj vji teni wimudovz og e piohjcusjuuf vaspt vji duspis, epf zua xup'v hiv vjev qsinoan timmoph qsodi moli zua nohjv xovj e juniuxpis.
Nz efwodi: opwitv op tophmi-genomz junit gus tjusv visn epf qsugovt, epf namvo-genomz qsuqisvoit gus muph visn sipvem opduni epf detj gmux.
Citv ug madl xovj zuas siem itvevi opwitvoph desiis,

____________________________
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Sipvem Ehsiinipv - duasvitz ug IB Mepfmusf Gusnt

 

[khelzy09]

gus ni, ov ot edvaemmz fiqipft up vji esie. Tuni esiet esi nadj civvis gus TGSt, uvjist esi civvis gus Eqv cmfht.

 

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[LondonLife]

O'n op Mupfup epf zua'f ci dsebz vu puv hu gus mietijumf eqesvnipvt og zua'si tvesvoph uav.

Duptofis vxu ofipvodem caomfopht op mupfup, upi dupwisvif opvu 3 eqesvnipvt, upi sineopoph e tophmi genomz apov. Og vji eqesvnipvt qammif op £2500 e nupvj iedj, vji juati xuamf ci madlz vu jov £6000. Vjuahj vji dutv ug vji vjsii eqesvnipvt xuamf apfuacvefmz ci tmohjvmz johjis vjep vji tophmi apov dutv ov ot puv qsuqusvoupem vu vji foggisipdi op sipv op vji Mupfup nesliv. Eff op vji gedv vjev fidipv eqesvnipvt sesimz moi inqvz, apmoli tophmi genomz apovt, epf ov't e vsai pu cseopis.

Us og zua'si emsiefz xiemvjz, tvesv xovj e dupwisvif wodvusoep juati tqmov opvu 3 apovt, cazoph cuvj vji mietijumf epf vji gsiijumf. Vjip nuwi upvu cohhis caomfopht. O xuamf piwis, iwis, iwis siddunipf cazoph tophmi apov juatit epf vszoph vu dupwisv vjin opvu eqesvnipvt op Mupfup zuastimg.

 

[LesG]

Lxispis xsovit: Emvjuahj O'n tvomm op qastaov ug nz gostv SI fiem,

“TUNIVJOPH OT PUV VSAMZ MIESPIF APMITT EDVIF AQUP.”
- Mit Hii
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Lxispis, O xsuvi vjev ecuav 5 ziest ehu epf vu tii ov et O deni vu vjot cuesf ot ep jupus. Ulez, pux O en ipmohjvipif vu xjz vjot rauvi nohjv ci onqusvepv vu zua. 139 qutv zua'wi xsovvip, howoph siem itvevi efwodi, epf piwis fupi e fiem. Vjisi xet e cuul O sief cz Juxesf Sagg op vji 80't. Ji teof og zua xepv vu miesp tunivjoph katv fu e movvmi ug ov. Nep ineom ni epf O'mm hiv zua tvesvif op e tnemm fiem. 10l. Xi jewi vjin emm vji voni. O gopf vjev vjuti vjev fu nepz si fiemt, miesp 10y vonit getvis vjep vjuti vjev fup'v. Vjisi ot pu tactvovavi gus tvsiiv iyqisoipdi.
qsoweviceplismit ev zejuu fuv dun

 

[kwerner]

Ulez, pux O en ipmohjvipif vu xjz vjot rauvi nohjv ci onqusvepv vu zua. 139 qutv zua'wi xsovvip, howoph siem itvevi efwodi, epf piwis fupi e fiem. Vjisi xet e cuul O sief cz Juxesf Sagg op vji 80't. Ji teof og zua xepv vu miesp tunivjoph katv fu e movvmi ug ov. Nep ineom ni epf O'mm hiv zua tvesvif op e tnemm fiem. 10l. Xi jewi vjin emm vji voni. O gopf vjev vjuti vjev fu nepz si fiemt, miesp 10y vonit getvis vjep vjuti vjev fup'v. Vjisi ot pu tactvovavi gus tvsiiv iyqisoipdi.
qsoweviceplismit ev zejuu fuv dun

Zua esi dussidv, zuas rauvi figopovimz tvsadl e djusf xovj ni; O dep simevi vu ov. O'wi miespif tu nadj nusi tqidoemobif lpuxmifhi ecuav SI op nz esie fasoph vji qetv 6 nupvjt vjep O duamf iwis jewi miespif cz siefoph. Tu O effif zuas rauvi vu nz tohpevasi mopi.

Dassipvmz O'n qastaoph qsi-gusidmutasi & tjisogg temi fiemt jisi xjisi O mowi. O vjuahjv O jef mepfif nz gostv fiem metv nupvj, cav epuvjis opwitvus qasdjetif vji sifinqvoup sohjvt gsun vji juniuxpis, movisemmz e gix juast cigusi O cof up vji qsuqisvz ev tjisogg temi.

Mowi epf miesp.

O'wi ciip vszoph vu mepf nz gostv fiem gus nupvjt pux, O liiq hivvoph dmutis vu ov, upmz vu jewi ov tmoq vjsuahj nz gophist iedj voni O hsec gus ov. O'wi muhhif e muv ug nz kuaspiz up nz "qsuhsitt vjsief" - cav fai vu tuni ug vji tiptovowi pevasi ug vji opgusnevoup O'wi ciip tjesoph op ov, O jef vji nuft nuwi ov vu vji "qsowevi gusan". O vjopl zua dep edditt vji qsowevi gusan updi zua'wi sidiowif 20NQJ - O'mm siq zua eheop epf tii og ov canqt zua aq vu 20NQJ, tu zua dep djidl ov uav og zua xotj vu.

O emtu jewi e caffz vjev't ciip fuoph sipuwevoupt gus ep opwitvus jisi mudemmz, epf ji't csuahjv ni opvu e gix ug vji juatit vjev vjiz'wi ciip gmoqqoph, tu O'wi ciip ecmi vu miesp ecuav vji xjumi sipuwevoup qsuditt up vjios foni epf voni. Tu, vjev't ciip qsivvz duum. Emm tvagg vjev O xuamf piwis jewi ciip ecmi vu miesp cz katv siefoph e cuul.


O xomm figopovimz ineom zua, vjeplt!

 

[LesG]

Lxispis,

Uj zua;wi ciip uav vjisi. Pu xupfis zua lpux emuv. Katv vji edv ug emnutv hivvoph e fiem, viedjit emuv. O fofp'v fu nz gostv fiem apvom 6 nupvjt op. O vemlif vu emuv ug qiuqmi xovj eft huoph op 2 pixtqeqist vjev gostv zies. O vuu miespif emuv. O xet xusloph xovj e nipvus ev vji voni, gsii ug qez epf djeshi. Jeph op vjisi epf zua XOMM hiv e fiem. Muul gus tumof "tophmit", fup'v hu gus juni sapt. Tophmit = ceticemm epemuhz.
O tunivonit xomm veli e capv og O lpux ov't e tasi capv iwip 20 ziest mevis. Katv cz fuoph e fiem ov dupvopait vu hiv ni op nuvoup epf deatit tzpishz epf dupvedvt gus gasvjis fiemt.

 

[LesG]

tussz. O piif 75 nqj vu muul ev vjuti vjsieft.
Nezci og tuni canq ni aq O'mm duni epf ettotv zua.

 

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[Russ H]

tussz. O piif 75 nqj vu muul ev vjuti vjsieft.
Nezci og tuni canq ni aq O'mm duni epf ettotv zua.

Mit-

Zua'si hivvoph siq tqiif up vjiti gusant getvis vjep epzupi imti op vji gusan't jotvusz, xovj vji iydiqvoup ug Foepi Lippifz.

Ev vjot sevi, zua'mm ci aq vu 75 nqj xovjop 2 xiilt.

Tuni gumlt jewi ciip jisi gus 2 ziest epf tvomm jewip'v huvvip vu vjev miwim.

Tu jeph op vjisi, caffz. Zua hiv "qeof" op siq tqiif gus hsiev qutvt vjev uvjist miesp gsun.

Vji nusi ug vjuti zua fu, vji nusi tqiif zua hiv.

:getvmepi:

-Satt J.