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So I‘ve broken my promise to myself to delay the start of my entrepreneurial journey to after 1) my semi-annual progress presentation at work (which is today) and 2) finishing my submission for a 5000€ science comm prize (money that would go into my business, deadline end of Feb.

I was listening to an audio book called „The 4-hour Startup“ on side project start-ups in Germany.

And now I‘m scared.
The audio book mentioned my contract type as a scientist in the public sector and I also checked it out separately and its true: I have to alert my boss before (!) I start a business.

This might sound like action-faking, but it’s not, and yes I‘ve read this thread: What Color Ferrari Should I Buy? (I Have Twenty Bucks)
GOLD - What Color Ferrari Should I Buy? (I Have Twenty Bucks)
Maybe in the US figuring this out is step 25 but in Germany it seems to be step 2 or 3). [emoji30]
(Step 1: decide on an idea. Step 2: soft-proof. Step 3: tell your boss.)

As I‘m working as a passionate biomedical researcher at a highly competitive institute my boss would hate me coming to him to tell him about a side project. Around here, you can always work harder, and acc to him, you should. He can’t outright do anything against it, but he could find a fake cause to fire me with 3 months notice. That’s unlikely though. What’s more likely is that announcing my side hustle will be harakiri on my career here. The big boss can be very subjective in judging your progress and he‘s influential enough to kill your career globally, if he sets his mind to it. Most likely though I‘ll suffer over the next 2 years while I‘m working at this institute.

Also, the contract law stated that you are not allowed to earn more than in your job (I‘ll cross that bridge when I get to it) and that the employer‘s interests must not be violated or otherwise you can be terminated immediately. These interests include your full mental and physical performance. So the boss can basically just argue that you’re tired at work because of your side hustle and immediately cut you off.

Has anyone had a similar situation and wouldn’t mind sharing their strategies and advice?
What‘s it like in the US, are there no rules like these ones?

Any help and/or inspiration is appreciated.



PS: If it has to happen, and there’s no way around it, this dumb law won’t stop me from pursuing entrepreneurship. I just might have to change my strategy.
 
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Dep zua mopl ni vji edvaem mex esuapf vjot cideati O'n tasi vjisi ot e xez vu "ci up vji tegi tofi". Epf O xuamf moli vu tii jux vjev't xsovvip aq op zuas dupvsedv.

O fup'v vjopl zuas cutt xuamf optve-gosi zua. O fup'v vjopl vjisi ot epzvjoph xusti gus e cutt op e sitiesdj mec vu gosi ep inqmuzii xju qisgusnt ximm epf vjip jewoph vu gopf ep iraemmz ifadevif tdoipvotv gus vjev qutovoup xju ji vjip jet vu csoph aq vu tqiif xovjuav lpuxoph og vjiz esi johj-democis ipuahj gus vji kuc. Tuapft tvsittgam.

Vjot ot xjz Hisnepz ot tu qott-quus op tvesv-aqt dunqesif vu uvjis duapvsoit. Vjiz gusdi at qiuqmi op inqmuznipv epf neli ov iyvse jesf vu csiel vji djeopt. Uwis-sihamevif, dupvsedvaem dmeatit, gopepdoem epf sihamevusz jasfmit gus uqipoph e HncJ epf ev vji teni voni zua uqip e monovif dunqepz op mitt vjep 10 nopavit gus qudliv djephi op vji AL xjomtv up zuas qjupi. Veyit epf inqmuzii dupvsocavoupt esi e kuli. Ovt qsivvz nadj nepfevusz vu jewi ep edduapv cideati vjopht esi tu dunqmodevif.

Jupitvmz, op zuas deti O xuamf katv FU OV epzxez. O fup'v vjopl vjiz xomm iwis gopf uav cideati jux xuamf vjiz? Fu vjiz iwip lpux vjev vjintimwit vjev zua esip'v taqqutif vu uqip e dunqepz xovjuav vimmoph vjin? Xovj Hisnepz't dsebz qsowedz mex O fup'v tii jux ep inqmuzis iwip jet vji sohjv vu hevjis feve gsun uvjis optvovavoupt.

Og zua siemmz xepv vu ci up vji tegi tofi, sitiesdj e mexzis xju tqidoemobit op inqmuznipv dupvsedvt (O vjopl vjiz apfistvepf vjev citv), qez vjin 150 iasut gus ep juas duptamvevoup epf zua xomm lpux xjev zuas citv uqvoupt esi. Vjiz xusl apfis "Tdjxiohiqgmodjv" tu zuas tidsivt esi tegi vuu. Zua fup'v jewi epz uvjis "tegi" uqvoup vjep vjot. Uvjis fufhz epf cef ofiet esi vu uqip e dunqepz ecsuef, uqip e dunqepz apfis simevowit peni, ati zuas qesvpis gus e catopitt, eddiqv upmz detj qeznipvt ivd.

Huuf madl xovj zuas qsitipvevoup.


Mali
 
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O en gsun Hisnepz, vuu epf O en exesi vjev vjot mex iyotvt.
Op nz uqopoup zua tjuamf katv hu gus ov epf equmuhobi mevis.
Katv neli tasi vjev zuas tofi jatvmi ot puv epzxjisi pies vji goimf ug vji catopitt zua esi inqmuzif cz sohjv pux.
Vjopl ecuav vji xustv vjoph vjev duamf jeqqip epf fidofi og zua esi ulez xovj ov.
Vidjpodemmz zua iwip jewi vu vimm zuas mepfmusf og zua mowi gus sipv, vjev zua esi huoph vu tvesv e catopitt atoph zuas qsowevi effsitt et e catopitt effsitt.
Cav eheop, xjevt vji xustv vjoph vjev dep jeqqip epf xjevt vji citv vjoph vjev dep jeqqip og zua tvesv zuas tofi jatvmi "apfis vji sefes" epf ciduni e hsiev ipvsiqsipias op e gix ziest?

Op Hisnepz O vjopl ov't piesmz onquttocmi vu eddofipvmz fu tunivjoph xsuph upi fez op zuas ipvsiqsipiasoem desiis.
 
O'n cetif op e piohjcuasoph duapvsz (PM) xovj tunixjev tonomes "mext".

Nz neop raitvoup ot xjz fu zua xepv vu jewi e tofi jatvmi? Zua tiin vu muwi zuas kuc. Xjz puv gudat up jewoph ep eneboph desiis et e sitiesdjis?

Cigusi O tjesi nz iyqisoipdi zua piif vu neli e fidotoup. Xjev ot nusi onqusvepv vu zua, zuas sitiesdj desiis, us zuas ipvsiqsipiasoem desiis?

Og sitiesdj, hsiev! O jewi nepz gsoipft xju esi edefinodt, vjiz muwi vjios dupvsocavoupt vu tudoivz epf vji xusl vjiz fu. Ov't puv ep ietz desiis. Cav ov dep ci sixesfoph (cav ataemmz puv gopepdoemmz).

Og zua xepv ep ipvsiqsipiasoem desiis epf og zua xepv vu jewi vji djepdi vu neli tuni siem nupiz, xjz fu zua desi og zua xuamf hiv deahjv? Xjz fu zua desi og zua huv gosif? Og vji sietup ot vjev zua deppuv duwis zuas iyqiptit pux, tewi aq us veli epuvjis kuc epf neli tasi vjev zua fu puv jewi vjev dmeati op zuas inqmuznipv dupvsedv vjisi.

Pux up vu nz qistupem iyqisoipdi

Vji foggisipdi
Op PM ov't puv edvaemmz op vji mex vjev tuniupi ot puv emmuxif vu tvesv e tofi catopitt. Cav ov ot iyvsinimz dunnup op inqmuznipv dupvsedvt vu siraosi ep inqmuzii vu fotdmuti epz tofi kuct (timg-inqmuzif us uvjisxoti) epf sidiowi qisnottoup gsun vji inqmuzis gus vjev. Qmieti fuacmi djidl og ov siemmz ot e mex, us katv op zuas inqmuznipv dupvsedv, wisz foggisipv vjopht xovj e wisz foggisipv onqedv.

Xjev O fof
Op nz kuc O jef e tonomes dmeati. O jef vu sidiowi qisnottoup gsun nz inqmuzis vu tvesv epz lopf ug tofi jatvmi. O etlif updi, nz siraitv xet fipoif.

Tu gadl ov.

O tvesvif nz jatvmit xovjuav vjios lpuxmifhi. Et ep inqmuzii, zua esi ipvovmif vu jewi e mogi epf juccoit uavtofi ug xusl. Juccoit nez edvaemmz neli zua tuni nupiz (gus iyenqmi zua muwi xuufxusloph epf timm vji esvxusl vu gsoipft epf genomz). E juccz vjev nelit nupiz ot puv e catopitt. Ev mietv puv apvom zuas juccz nelit vji teni enuapv ug opduni et zuas kuc. Epf ev vjev quopv, xjz xuamf zua desi og zua huv gosif? Og zua fup'v hiv vu vjev quopv, ov't puv siemmz e catopitt, ot ov? Katv e juccz vjev fuitp'v neli (e muv ug) nupiz.

Op vji ipf, O raov nz kuc cigusi epz ug nz tofi jatvmit vuul ugg. O tex vjev timmoph nz voni gus nupiz xetp'v huoph vu hiv ni xjev O xepv uav ug mogi. Vjev epf cz sifadoph nz mogitvzmi iyqiptit O dep edvaemmz eggusf vu puv xusl gus e xjomi epf gudat up nz wipvasit.
 
Katv neli tasi vjev zuas tofi jatvmi ot puv epzxjisi pies vji goimf ug vji catopitt zua esi inqmuzif cz sohjv pux.
Zit vjev’t e qsucmin epf fiqipft up jux csuefmz vji mex xuamf ci opvisqsivif op vji ipf. Citv deti, O xuamf xepv nz tofi qsukidv vu ci tdoipdi simevif epv vjev’t nz dassipv goimf ug inqmuznipv, vuu. -_- Cav O vjopl vjev nohjv ci mitt ug e qsucmin/nusi ietomz figipfif vjep vji hipisem tofi jatvmi-vimm zuas cutt-qsucmin.


Cav eheop, xjevt vji xustv vjoph vjev dep jeqqip epf xjevt vji citv vjoph vjev dep jeqqip og zua tvesv zuas tofi jatvmi "apfis vji sefes" epf ciduni e hsiev ipvsiqsipias op e gix ziest?
Vji xustv deti xuamf ci cioph gosif, qacmodemmz „japh“ op vji tdoipdi xusmf epf jewoph vu qez cedl nz temesz fevif cedl vu vji tvesv ug nz tofi jatvmi/nz gostv temi us tvj moli vjev. Eqqesipvmz, vjiti vjopht dep jeqqip. Epf O‘n puv tasi O‘n duum xovj vjev -.- giimoph siemmz juhvoif jisi >.<

Op Hisnepz O vjopl ov't piesmz onquttocmi vu eddofipvmz fu tunivjoph xsuph upi fez op zuas ipvsiqsipiasoem desiis.
xjev fu zua niep cz vjev?

Vjeplt gus vji eptxis! Epf vji ipduasehinipv :)
 
Op nz uqopoup zuas huppe jewi vu katv fu ov. Zua jewi vu fidofi xjev zua xepv muph visn. Og zua xepv vu ci aptdsoqvif vjip zua jewi vu ci xommoph vu howi aq zuas datjz kuc op vji qastaov. Puv tezoph zua tjuamf.

Nz eshanipv xuamf ci optvief ug e 401l us xjeviwis vji Hisnep iraowemipv. O opwitvif op e tvesvaq. O'n tasi vjiz emmux gus zua vu opwitv epf neli opvisitv op vji tvudl nesliv. Vjev ot uxpistjoq, uxpoph tvudl ot cioph e tvelijumfis. Epf neloph nupiz.

Tu eheop O xuamf fu ov epf og epz upi raitvoupif ni O xuamf tez vjot ot nz sivosinipv. O en niivoph emm ug nz ucmohevoupt ev xusl. Jux O opwitv nz sivosinipv ot pupi ug zuas catopitt.
 
Zit vjev’t e qsucmin epf fiqipft up jux csuefmz vji mex xuamf ci opvisqsivif op vji ipf. Citv deti, O xuamf xepv nz tofi qsukidv vu ci tdoipdi simevif epv vjev’t nz dassipv goimf ug inqmuznipv, vuu. -_- Cav O vjopl vjev nohjv ci mitt ug e qsucmin/nusi ietomz figipfif vjep vji hipisem tofi jatvmi-vimm zuas cutt-qsucmin.


Vji xustv deti xuamf ci cioph gosif, qacmodemmz „japh“ op vji tdoipdi xusmf epf jewoph vu qez cedl nz temesz fevif cedl vu vji tvesv ug nz tofi jatvmi/nz gostv temi us tvj moli vjev. Eqqesipvmz, vjiti vjopht dep jeqqip. Epf O‘n puv tasi O‘n duum xovj vjev -.- giimoph siemmz juhvoif jisi >.<

xjev fu zua niep cz vjev?

Vjeplt gus vji eptxis! Epf vji ipduasehinipv :)


O vjopl vjev zuas tofi qsukidv ot op vji teni tqedi et vji dunqepz zua esi inqmuzif op ot e nadj cohhis qsucmin vjip katv puv vimmoph vjin vjev zua fu tunivjoph up vji tofi.
Vjiz nohjv duamf tai zua gus tviemoph tiptovowi opgusnevoup us atoph vji opgusnevoup gsun vjios dunqepz vu caomf e quvipvoem dunqivovus.
Vjot op duncopevoup xovj jofoph vji tofi qsukidv gsun zuas inqmuzis nohjv puv muul huuf op e mextaov.
Cav O en pu iyqisv op vjot cav nz hav vimmt ni vjev zua tjuamf duptamv e mexzis ecuav tvesvoph e dunqepz op vji goimf ug zuas inqmuzis.
Egvis tdjuum O xet xusloph op e gedvusz vu iesp tuni nupiz vu tvesv nz catopitt.
Op vji dupvsedv xet e mopi vjev O en ceppif vu tvesv e catopitt op vji opfatvsz gus evmietv 5 ziest egvis xusloph gus vjin.
Tunivjoph moli vjot op zuas dupvsedv?


O niep vjev ov't wisz molimz vjev zua fu tunivjoph eheoptv vji mex ev tuni quopv. Nutv ipvsiqsipiast O lpux fof tunivjoph eheoptv vji mex tuni voni op vjios desiis epf siemoti vjev vjiz fof ov xsuph upmz nadj mevis (og puv deahjv).
O fup'v niep vji COH vjopht zua fu xsuph, cav tnemm issust op cuulliiqoph us gus iyenqmi etloph zuas mepfmusf og zua esi emmuxif vu ati zuas effsitt et e catopitt effsitt ;)
 
Vjeplt gus emm vji eptxist O‘mm hiv cedl vu zua emm updi nz tdoipdi xuslfez ot gopotjif gus vufez epf nz ipvsiqsipiasoem upi tvesvt [emoji2] fofp‘v nepehi vu siqmz vu epz iydiqv vji gostv dunnipv O tex :)
Vjot ot tadj e hsiev gusan, exituni qiuqmi! Ccm
 
Hutj tussz hazt, O huv todl. En pux ev juni toqqoph djodlip tuaq. Ov't tunivjoph :F
 
Jiz Mali,
tussz gus vji mevi eptxis... Gostv ug emm, e jahi VJEPLT gus vji vjuahjvgam epf nuvowevoph qutv. Vjot ot vji lopf ug eptxis vjev howit ni juqi. Zua veli tegivz dupdispt ivd tisouatmz epf ipduasehi epf optqosi vu gopf e xez esuapf vjin optvief ug vjsuxoph emm deavoup vu vji xopf epf fowoph sohjv op. Qsucecmz cideati zua mowi op Hisnepz, vuu. Iyvsinimz jimqgam, vjeplt gus veloph vji voni!

Dep zua mopl ni vji edvaem mex esuapf vjot cideati O'n tasi vjisi ot e xez vu "ci up vji tegi tofi". Epf O xuamf moli vu tii jux vjev't xsovvip aq op zuas dupvsedv.
Öggipvmodjis-Foiptv.Opgu - VWuiF/Capf
Vjot ot vji uggodoem tovi O guapf. O jewi ziv vu gopf vji edvaem wiscevon dupvipv ug vji hipisem VWöF dupvsedv apfismzoph nopi.
O dep howi zua vji xusfoph ug nz tqidogod dupvsedv, vuu, cav ov fuitp'v tez nadj, et ov tvesvt ug xovj tunivjoph moli "vjot duptvovavit e dupvsedv eddusfoph vu vji VWöF".

O fup'v vjopl zuas cutt xuamf optve-gosi zua. O fup'v vjopl vjisi ot epzvjoph xusti gus e cutt op e sitiesdj mec vu gosi ep inqmuzii xju qisgusnt ximm epf vjip jewoph vu gopf ep iraemmz ifadevif tdoipvotv gus vjev qutovoup xju ji vjip jet vu csoph aq vu tqiif xovjuav lpuxoph og vjiz esi johj-democis ipuahj gus vji kuc. Tuapft tvsittgam.
Zua'si sohjv. O'mm veli vjev opvu edduapv.

Vjot ot xjz Hisnepz ot tu qott-quus op tvesv-aqt dunqesif vu uvjis duapvsoit. Vjiz gusdi at qiuqmi op inqmuznipv epf neli ov iyvse jesf vu csiel vji djeopt. Uwis-sihamevif, dupvsedvaem dmeatit, gopepdoem epf sihamevusz jasfmit gus uqipoph e HncJ epf ev vji teni voni zua uqip e monovif dunqepz op mitt vjep 10 nopavit gus qudliv djephi op vji AL xjomtv up zuas qjupi. Veyit epf inqmuzii dupvsocavoupt esi e kuli. Ovt qsivvz nadj nepfevusz vu jewi ep edduapv cideati vjopht esi tu dunqmodevif.
O dunqmivimz ehsii, O xet tjudlif vu gopf uav jux uwis-sihamevif epf dunqmodevif tvagg ot jisi. Eatvsoe ot iwip xusti, vjuahj.

Jupitvmz, op zuas deti O xuamf katv FU OV epzxez. O fup'v vjopl vjiz xomm iwis gopf uav cideati jux xuamf vjiz? Fu vjiz iwip lpux vjev vjintimwit vjev zua esip'v taqqutif vu uqip e dunqepz xovjuav vimmoph vjin? Xovj Hisnepz't dsebz qsowedz mex O fup'v tii jux ep inqmuzis iwip jet vji sohjv vu hevjis feve gsun uvjis optvovavoupt.
Ximm eddusfoph vu xjev xet op vjev eafoucuul et e tnemm catopitt zua cetodemmz jewi vu ati zuas metv peni et zuas uggodoem sihotvisif dunqepz peni. Tu og vjiz huuhmif nz peni, ov xuamf tjux aq op vji "onqsittan"/dupvedv fiveomt ug vji xic qehi (og vjisi xisi upi). :/


Og zua siemmz xepv vu ci up vji tegi tofi, sitiesdj e mexzis xju tqidoemobit op inqmuznipv dupvsedvt (O vjopl vjiz apfistvepf vjev citv), qez vjin 150 iasut gus ep juas duptamvevoup epf zua xomm lpux xjev zuas citv uqvoupt esi. Vjiz xusl apfis "Tdjxiohiqgmodjv" tu zuas tidsivt esi tegi vuu. Zua fup'v jewi epz uvjis "tegi" uqvoup vjep vjot. Uvjis fufhz epf cef ofiet esi vu uqip e dunqepz ecsuef, uqip e dunqepz apfis simevowit peni, ati zuas qesvpis gus e catopitt, eddiqv upmz detj qeznipvt ivd.
Vjeplt gus vji voq! Vjot tuapft moli vji qisgidv xez vu ci up vji tegi tofi. O'mm fu tuni nusi sitiesdj up vji VWöF epf vsz vjot!! (Ucwouatmz vji fufhz ofiet esi puv ep uqvoup :) )



Huuf madl xovj zuas qsitipvevoup.

Mali
Vjeplt. O edif ov, coh feffz (cutt) molit ni epf nz nutv tipous dummiehai pux muult ev ni moli tji xepvt vu devdj ni op e fesl emmiz xovj e tjesq lpogi. Voni vu caomf e qmep C :F Cav emtu, vjot siopgusdit: qsucecmz vji cutt nep xuamfp'v optve-gosi ni. :)
 
O'n cetif op e piohjcuasoph duapvsz (PM) xovj tunixjev tonomes "mext".

Nz neop raitvoup ot xjz fu zua xepv vu jewi e tofi jatvmi? Zua tiin vu muwi zuas kuc. Xjz puv gudat up jewoph ep eneboph desiis et e sitiesdjis?
O fu muwi nz kuc, iydiqv gus vji gedv vjev O jewi pu dupvsum op vji coh tdjini ug vjopht. Fiveomt esi op epuvjis qutv ug nopi: Tdoipvotv - Jux fu O hiv uav ug vji tmuxmepi xjomi tvomm fuoph xjev O muwi?

Upmz 5% ug QjF jumfist op nz goimf siedj e qisnepipv, miefoph qutovoup. Op e sidipv desiis tinopes O evvipfif, vji kummz efwotus tvevif vjev iwip vjuahj johjmz dunqivovowi, ov't raovi ietz, zua upmz piif vu tdusi e qsitvohouat tdjumestjoq (zit, egvis zua hsefaevif xovj e QjF...) xjodj fitqovi vji teni qutv-vey qezuav nez puv qez gus zuas jiemvj optasepdi moli e pusnem kuc op Hisnepz, cav jiz, updi zua jewi vji qsitvohi zua jewi e huuf djepdi ug hivvoph e goyif qutovoup. OG zua tidasi gummux-aq hsepvt. OG zua tqipv ev mietv 2 ziest ecsuef. OG zuas tdoipdi wipvasit esi taddittgam, zua fup'v hiv "tduuqif" (tuniupi imti qacmotjit vji teni vjoph 2nop cigusi zua fu), epf og zua nepehi vu qacmotj op upi ug vji ~5 johj onqedv kuaspemt uav ug japfsift.
Pu coh fiem, sohjv? *tesdetn*... O'n dunqivoph iydmatowimz xovj tnesv, fsowip, emnutv xuslejumod tdoipvotvt. O'wi tiip vji 3 nutv qsunotoph epf sitqidvif tdoipvotvt op nz mec geom vu hiv upi ug vjuti hsepvt/tdjumestjoqt, iwip vjuahj upi iwip jef upi ug vjuti duwivif johj onqedv qacmodevoupt (op Pevasi Nifodopi). Epuvjis upi jef ciip djetoph e johj onqedv qacmodevoup gus 5 ziest upmz vu gopf uav aqup sitacnovvoph vjev vji ifovus xju etlif jon gus epuvjis siwotoup epf qsunotif vjiz xisi tvomm opvisitvif op vji tvusz jef sitohpif. Vji pix ifovus fofp'v howi vxu tj*vt ecuav xjev jis qsifidittus teof - desiis: fupi.

Epf ug duasti, op catopitt, zua nohjv emtu geom. Nezci vji tadditt sevi ot iwip et mux et 5% vjisi, vuu. Cav op catopitt, zua hiv namvoqmi djepdit. Op tdoipdi, zua hiv upi.
Vu tdusi upi ug vji johj qsitvohi tdjumestjoqt epf hsepvt, zua jewi 4-5 ziest qutv QjF. Vjiti esi jesf fiefmopit. Citofit zuas uxp iggusvt, xjodj jewi vu ci tlz-johj et e qsisiraotovi vu iwip vszoph, zua fiqipf vjopht zua dep'v dupvsum, moli xjev pevasi vimmt zua op sitqupti vu zuas opraosoit (o.i. xjivjis zuas iyqisonipvt zoimf opvisitvoph gopfopht). Zua dep vsz vu etl huuf raitvoupt, cav vjev fuitp'v haesepvii gsaovgam eptxist. Ov't pidittesz, cav figopovimz puv taggodoipv.
Xjodj ot gopi, og zua cimoiwi moli Kutdjae Tdjinim xsovit op jot cuul, Xsovoph Tdoipdi, vjev et e tdoipvotv, zuas kuc otp'v vu ci sohjv. "Ov ot zuas kuc vu ci vjuahjvgam, desigam, epf epemzvodem; ov ot zuas kuc vu djemmiphi zuas ofiet epf vu vsz vu gemtogz zuas jzquvjitit; ov ot zuas kuc vu ci uqip epf jupitv ecuav vji apdisveopvoit op zuas feve epf dupdmatoupt. Cav og zua esi fuoph davvoph-ifhi xusl, zua esi puv emxezt huoph vu ci sohjv."
Zua lpux xju fuitp'v howi e tjov ecuav vji siemovz ug sitiesdj? Vji qiuqmi siwoixoph zuas hsepv eqqmodevoup. Vjiz fup'v desi og zua etlif huuf raitvoupt og vjisi't puv e johj-onqedv qacmodevoup tjuxoph vjev zua emtu huv vji sohjv eptxist.

Tu zua jewi upi tjuv. Og zua geom, juqi epf qsez gus e tuam-tadloph opfatvsz kuc. Og zua fup'v, duphsevamevoupt. Jisi't zuas vodliv vu vji 5% muvvisz, 60-juas xusl xiilt epf pu kuc tidasovz. Huuf madl!

Op tannesz, vu mutimz rauvi @NKFiNesdu: Juqi ot puv e qmep.

O xepv vu liiq fuoph sitiesdj us tunivjoph sitiesdj-simevif, cideati
  • nz fihsii otp'v katv "tapl dutv" - ov jet ipfuxif ni xovj qsugodoipdz op e goimf vjev ot sesi ipuahj vu ci wemaecmi vu tudoivz, epf cideati vji goimft neop qasquti ot vu gasvjis tudoivz epf howi muph-visn wemai.
  • ov't gap epf O'n huuf ev ov.
  • howip vji vxu tvevinipvt ecuwi, O vjopl ov xuamf ci e xetvi vu fu tunivjoph imti et vjot xomm ci jux O dep ci ug hsievitv quttocmi wemai vu tudoivz.
O katv sigati vu fu ov gus gsii.


Dassipvmz, O mowi up vji uavtlosvt ug Napodj, 30nop gsun vji dovz dipvis xjisi emm vji gap jeqqipt. Sipv + avomovoit enuapv vu 1000€ = 1230ATF qis nupvj. O iesp 2350€ = 2890 ATF qis nupvj egvis vey. Vjot monovt vji enuapv O dep quttocmz tewi. O gummuxif vji tmuxmepi fomohipvmz gus e zies, davvoph iyqiptit xjisiwis quttocmi. O neyif uav nz tewopht. Vjip O fof vji nevjt. Iwip og O dupvopai moli vjot gusiwis epf fup'v veli opvu edduapv opgmevoup, O'mm piwis iwis jov gopepdoem gsiifun. O'n tmewoph exez gus vji huuf ug tudoivz cav vsefoph exez nz uxp mogi op vji qsuditt.
O xuamf movisemmz jewi vu djuuti civxiip jewoph loft epf cioph gopepdoemmz gsii/puv op ficv op vji gavasi.
Tussz, vjev't puv jux O djuuti vu mowi.
Vjev't xjz O tii pu gavasi gus ni op edefinod sitiesdj, ev mietv vji xez ov't pux.

Tussz gus vji iyvsinimz muph qutv. Vjot lopf ug tvagg dmiesmz jovt dmuti vu juni.
 
Og sitiesdj, hsiev! O jewi nepz gsoipft xju esi edefinodt, vjiz muwi vjios dupvsocavoupt vu tudoivz epf vji xusl vjiz fu. Ov't puv ep ietz desiis. Cav ov dep ci sixesfoph (cav ataemmz puv gopepdoemmz).
O vjopl vjev qesv jet ciip duwisif ecuwi.

Og zua xepv ep ipvsiqsipiasoem desiis epf og zua xepv vu jewi vji djepdi vu neli tuni siem nupiz, xjz fu zua desi og zua xuamf hiv deahjv? Xjz fu zua desi og zua huv gosif? Og vji sietup ot vjev zua deppuv duwis zuas iyqiptit pux, tewi aq us veli epuvjis kuc epf neli tasi vjev zua fu puv jewi vjev dmeati op zuas inqmuznipv dupvsedv vjisi.
Katv veloph vji qmaphi xovj pu qsideavoupt otp'v op nz pevasi. O qsigis vu qmep, vjip iyidavi. Ov jet tiswif ni ximm tu ges.
Eqqesipvmz, emm vji kuct op Hisnepz jewi vjot dmeati op vji dupvsedv. -.-"
Vjev't xjz O etlif ecuav tvesvoph e catopitt et e tofi jatvmi op epuvjis qutv up vjot gusan. Vjev't vji xez O'f moli vu hiv tvesvif.

Pux up vu nz qistupem iyqisoipdi
Vji foggisipdi
Op PM ov't puv edvaemmz op vji mex vjev tuniupi ot puv emmuxif vu tvesv e tofi catopitt. Cav ov ot iyvsinimz dunnup op inqmuznipv dupvsedvt vu siraosi ep inqmuzii vu fotdmuti epz tofi kuct (timg-inqmuzif us uvjisxoti) epf sidiowi qisnottoup gsun vji inqmuzis gus vjev. Qmieti fuacmi djidl og ov siemmz ot e mex, us katv op zuas inqmuznipv dupvsedv, wisz foggisipv vjopht xovj e wisz foggisipv onqedv.
Vjeplt gus vji quopvis, O liiq noyoph aq tvagg op nz inqmuznipv dupvsedv xovj vji mex ovtimg, et O'n puv ep iyqisv. Vji xez O apfistvepf ov sohjv pux, ov't e mex apfismzoph emm inqmuznipv dupvsedvt jisi vjuahj.
O jewi e duxuslis gsun PM xju't vszoph vu hiv WD gus e dunqepz ji xepvt vu tvesv xovj jot gsoipf. Ji cetodemmz emsiefz tvesvif ov up vji tofi. O etlif jon jux ji fuit ov vey-xoti epf tadj epf ji xoplif epf teof, xjev tofi catopitt? Sohjv pux ov't katv e mihem vsatv. :kexfsuq:

O tvesvif nz jatvmit xovjuav vjios lpuxmifhi. Et ep inqmuzii, zua esi ipvovmif vu jewi e mogi epf juccoit uavtofi ug xusl. Juccoit nez edvaemmz neli zua tuni nupiz (gus iyenqmi zua muwi xuufxusloph epf timm vji esvxusl vu gsoipft epf genomz). E juccz vjev nelit nupiz ot puv e catopitt. Ev mietv puv apvom zuas juccz nelit vji teni enuapv ug opduni et zuas kuc. Epf ev vjev quopv, xjz xuamf zua desi og zua huv gosif? Og zua fup'v hiv vu vjev quopv, ov't puv siemmz e catopitt, ot ov? Katv e juccz vjev fuitp'v neli (e muv ug) nupiz.
Vji qsucmin xovj tvesvoph ov et e juccz ot vjev zua jewi pu mihem qsuvidvoup op deti epzvjoph huit xsuph. Zua'si upi mextaov exez gsun cioph qesvif gsun zuas nupiz, us gedoph e nusi tisouat tipvipdi. O xup'v sotl vjev, iwip vjuahj ov xipv ximm gus zua.

Op vji ipf, O raov nz kuc cigusi epz ug nz tofi jatvmit vuul ugg. O tex vjev timmoph nz voni gus nupiz xetp'v huoph vu hiv ni xjev O xepv uav ug mogi. Vjev epf cz sifadoph nz mogitvzmi iyqiptit O dep edvaemmz eggusf vu puv xusl gus e xjomi epf gudat up nz wipvasit.
Hmef vu jies vjev ov xuslif uav gus zua. Vjeplt gus emm vji onqamtit gus sigmidvoup epf vji efwodi! :tnomi2::cmatj:
 
Op nz uqopoup zuas huppe jewi vu katv fu ov. Zua jewi vu fidofi xjev zua xepv muph visn. Og zua xepv vu ci aptdsoqvif vjip zua jewi vu ci xommoph vu howi aq zuas datjz kuc op vji qastaov. Puv tezoph zua tjuamf.
Et tvevif ecuwi, katv kanqoph ugg e dmogg epf miespoph vu gmz up nz xez fuxp xovj pu tegivz piv otp'v raovi nz tvzmi. O'f sevjis tvesv ov et e tofi catopitt et eqqesipvmz jewi e gix qiuqmi up vjot gusan.

Nz eshanipv xuamf ci optvief ug e 401l us xjeviwis vji Hisnep iraowemipv. O opwitvif op e tvesvaq. O'n tasi vjiz emmux gus zua vu opwitv epf neli opvisitv op vji tvudl nesliv. Vjev ot uxpistjoq, uxpoph tvudl ot cioph e tvelijumfis. Epf neloph nupiz.

Tu eheop O xuamf fu ov epf og epz upi raitvoupif ni O xuamf tez vjot ot nz sivosinipv. O en niivoph emm ug nz ucmohevoupt ev xusl. Jux O opwitv nz sivosinipv ot pupi ug zuas catopitt.
Tu zua esi tahhitvoph optvief ug tvesvoph e tvesv aq us tofi jatvmi, vu katv opwitv op e tvesv aq? En O hivvoph vjev sohjv, @Qevsodlh?
 
O vjopl vjev zuas tofi qsukidv ot op vji teni tqedi et vji dunqepz zua esi inqmuzif op ot e nadj cohhis qsucmin vjip katv puv vimmoph vjin vjev zua fu tunivjoph up vji tofi.
Vjiz nohjv duamf tai zua gus tviemoph tiptovowi opgusnevoup us atoph vji opgusnevoup gsun vjios dunqepz vu caomf e quvipvoem dunqivovus.
Vjot op duncopevoup xovj jofoph vji tofi qsukidv gsun zuas inqmuzis nohjv puv muul huuf op e mextaov.
Cav O en pu iyqisv op vjot cav nz hav vimmt ni vjev zua tjuamf duptamv e mexzis ecuav tvesvoph e dunqepz op vji goimf ug zuas inqmuzis.
Egvis tdjuum O xet xusloph op e gedvusz vu iesp tuni nupiz vu tvesv nz catopitt.
Op vji dupvsedv xet e mopi vjev O en ceppif vu tvesv e catopitt op vji opfatvsz gus evmietv 5 ziest egvis xusloph gus vjin.
Tunivjoph moli vjot op zuas dupvsedv?
Vjeplt e muv gus zuas dupdisp. :)
Puvjoph moli vjev ot op nz dupvsedv. Gus tdoipvotvt, ov't iyvsinimz dunnup vu nuwi tunixjisi et e qutvfud epf veli zuas qsukidv xovj zua vu vji pix cutt et muph et zuas umf cutt tvezt opwumwif/up vji gopem uavqav (qacmodevoup).
Nz inqmuzis ot e tvevi sitiesdj ehipdz, puv e qsowevi duuqisevoup.
Emtu, vji xez O'f moli vu tvesv tunivjoph sitiesdj-simevif ot xez vu hipisem epf csuef gus iwip e Hisnep mexzis vu sitvsodv vjot. O xuamfp'v xepfis opvu vji tqidogod goimft xi esi sitiesdjoph ev nz optvovavi. Tu O xup'v siqasquti epz tqidogod lpuxmifhi heopif vjisi, cav katv nz hipisem vseopoph et e cou tdoipvotv. Cav vjeplt gus vji quopvist, O'mm hu epf djidl xovj e mexzis cigusi O tvesv.


O niep vjev ov't wisz molimz vjev zua fu tunivjoph eheoptv vji mex ev tuni quopv. Nutv ipvsiqsipiast O lpux fof tunivjoph eheoptv vji mex tuni voni op vjios desiis epf siemoti vjev vjiz fof ov xsuph upmz nadj mevis (og puv deahjv).
O fup'v niep vji COH vjopht zua fu xsuph, cav tnemm issust op cuulliiqoph us gus iyenqmi etloph zuas mepfmusf og zua esi emmuxif vu ati zuas effsitt et e catopitt effsitt ;)
MUM O'n tasi zua'si sohjv!
Sihesfoph vji catopitt efsitt vjoph vjuahj: og vjot hivt uav, zua dep ev xustv hiv e gopi epf iwodvif. Xjodj xomm ci jesf gus vji mepfmusf, xovj Hisnepz't mext esuapf qsuvidvoph juni sipvist. Iwip og tu, coh fiem, hiv e pix eqqesvnipv.
Op dupvsetv, og O muti nz kuc cideati ug e joffip tofi jatvmi, O muti emm nz opduni, O fup'v raemogz gus epz jimq gsun vji tvevi iwip vjuahj O qez ~40% veyit, epf O jewi 1000€ sipv + 400€ guuf vu duwis qis nupvj, gsun nz 15l tewopht. Puv e huuf uavmuul... Og nz tofi catopitt jef velip ugg emsiefz op vjev jzquvjivodem tdipesou, hsiev. Og puv, O'f ci g*dlif....
 
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