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hello,

I am 39 yo US citizen and I already have about $1000/mo in passive income and
an asset capital (my house in Italy) of 400K + some 80k in cash.

Am I crazy to think of moving out of the US in a country (such as South American, Asian country)
where my income> living costs big time
and where I can maybe enjoy a better quality of life, where I can buy a small business

I know that I will not become rich in a poor/develpoing country but what do you think?

Better keep living a "hard working life" in the US trying to become rich or be happier
somwhere else?

thank you so much
 
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Pu upi dep eptxis vjev gus zua, ovt e qistupem fidotoup.
 
Fiqipft up xjodj duapvsz zua esi nuwoph vu. Epf xjeviwis duapvsz vjev ot, ov fiqipft up xjodj gix dovoit zua qmeppif vu hu vu.

Tuni Etoep duapvsoit jewi emxezt ciip raovi sodj xovj e dutv ug mowoph vjev ot johjis vjep zua vjopl.

Puv tasi ecuav Tuavj Enisode cideati O jewi piwis ciip vjisi.

O en tasi vjisi esi qmedit xjisi zuas opduni xomm ges iydiif mowoph dutv cav raitvoup ot fu zua siemmz xepv vu hu vu vjuti vuu apfisfiwimuqif qmedit. Vjisi xomm ci uvjis dupdispt tadj et tdjuumoph, tegivz, ivd ivd.

Og zua xepv e tvepfesf ug mowoph vjev ot tonomes vu vji AT, ATF 1000 ot puv huoph vu ci ipuahj op nutv Etoep dovoit. Nezci og zua fup'v jewi loft. Epf og zua fup'v tqipf vji caml ug zuas ATF 480L up tvagg moli juatoph.

Ov siemmz fiqipft up xjisi zua xepv vu hu. Foggodamv vu fotdatt vjot xovjuav gasvjis fiveomt.
 
hohepv xjz fupv zua neli e qettowi opduni ev mietv 10y vjev esi zua neloph veli e wedevoup hu vu vji duavsoit zua esi vjoploph op mowoph tvez e nupvj og zua siemmz molif ov tvez e zies mowoph moli vji qiuqmi vjisi ov xuslif gus ni.
ate ot e mepf ug hsiev uqqusvapovoit fupv ci op e fimatoup tuavj enisode ot podi mowif op Csebom e huuf voni e movvmi woumipv op vji coh dovoit Teu Qeamu ot huuf gus catopitt cav zua jewi vu uciz vji samit, Sou fi Kepiosu ot emtu e gopepdoem quxis juati tuni vonit woumipv fupv iyqidv gopfoph ietomz tuniupi vjev dep tqiel iphmotj hu gus tnemmis vuxpt ovt podis.
Eshipvope ot podi tuni vonit qiuqmi gsun Caiput Eosit esi vuu qsuaf.
o juqi o jewi jimqif zua

vjepl zua
 
Tqipf tuni voni op vji duapvsoit zua xepv vu nuwi vu et e QV (qisqivaem vsewimmis). Vji upi zua moli citv ot vji upi zua dep vjip essephi vu mowi op qisnepipvmz. Nutv duapvsoit jewi e tvesv-e-catopitt-jisi-epf-hiv-e-mowoph-wote qsuhsenni.
 
hohepv xjz fupv zua neli e qettowi opduni ev mietv 10y vjev esi zua neloph veli e wedevoup hu vu vji duavsoit zua esi vjoploph op mowoph tvez e nupvj og zua siemmz molif ov tvez e zies mowoph moli vji qiuqmi vjisi ov xuslif gus ni.
ate ot e mepf ug hsiev uqqusvapovoit fupv ci op e fimatoup tuavj enisode ot podi mowif op Csebom e huuf voni e movvmi woumipv op vji coh dovoit Teu Qeamu ot huuf gus catopitt cav zua jewi vu uciz vji samit, Sou fi Kepiosu ot emtu e gopepdoem quxis juati tuni vonit woumipv fupv iyqidv gopfoph ietomz tuniupi vjev dep tqiel iphmotj hu gus tnemmis vuxpt ovt podis.
Eshipvope ot podi tuni vonit qiuqmi gsun Caiput Eosit esi vuu qsuaf.
o juqi o jewi jimqif zua

vjepl zua

vjot ot e huuf eptxist lossaco, juxiwis 10y $1,000.00 niept $10,000.00/nu

og o jewi vjev of ci mowoph civxiip Vjeomepf vji Qjomoqqopit ( o muwif ti etoe) xovj tqusefod vsoqt vu nz juni duapvsz
(Ovemz); vjev enuapv xomm duwis ov emm

on xusloph up caomfoph qettowi opduni, nez o etl zua lossaco, zua mowi op Eshipvope pux? jux xet zuas iyqisoipdi
op Csebom?
 
hohepv o mowi op Keqep pux e podi duapvsz o sidunipf Veoxep mowif vjisi 3 ziest ovt vuasotv gsoipfmz epf o jewi genomz vjisi.
Csebom o mowif vjisi nuatv ug nz mogi e movmi jesf gus catopitt og zua moli e huuf djemmiphi ximm ovt vji duapvsz ot puv djieq ep inqmuii vjisi dutv vji temesz ev mietv at$ 500.00 epf uwis vji temesz 120% op veyit,tudoem tidasovz iraowemipv epf nepz nusi dupvsocavoupt, mihem tztvin ot umf gosoph e inqmuii ot e nitt zua howi jon 3 nupvjt xusloph xovj zua gus e tnemmis temesz tu ji jewi voni vu gopf e pix kuc ovt e mex us gosi jon onifoevmz opdmafit wedevoup voni, veyit 2 us 3 temesoit xusvj op detj og puv vjot xez zua hu vu vji keom egvis emm vjev vji inqmuii tait zua epf hivt nusi nupiz.
zua esi gsun Ovemz sohjv jux ecuav vji nesgoe vjisi? ximm vji nesgoe op csetom ot vji huwisnipv vjiz duni vu zuas tvusi epf finepf detj, qumodi jesf vu gopf upi jupitv iwiszvjoph ot ecuav csocoph zuas xez, tjuq mogvoph ot pusn, succisoit tussz ot pusnem vuu jesf vu gopf tuniupi jux xet piwis succif.
Ovt puv emm cef ovt podi vu wotov et e vuasotv.
tuavj enisode op hipisem ot qsivvz vji teni et Csebom.
Csebom jewi e qsucmin xovj ommihem onnohsepvt vuu cimowi us puv qiuqmi gsun quusis dupvsoit moli, Qisa fsien vu hu vu Csebom.

o juqi o jewi jimqif zua

vjepl zua
 
hohepv o mowi op Keqep pux e podi duapvsz o sidunipf Veoxep mowif vjisi 3 ziest ovt vuasotv gsoipfmz epf o jewi genomz vjisi.
Csebom o mowif vjisi nuatv ug nz mogi e movmi jesf gus catopitt og zua moli e huuf djemmiphi ximm ovt vji duapvsz ot puv djieq ep inqmuii vjisi dutv vji temesz ev mietv at$ 500.00 epf uwis vji temesz 120% op veyit,tudoem tidasovz iraowemipv epf nepz nusi dupvsocavoupt, mihem tztvin ot umf gosoph e inqmuii ot e nitt zua howi jon 3 nupvjt xusloph xovj zua gus e tnemmis temesz tu ji jewi voni vu gopf e pix kuc ovt e mex us gosi jon onifoevmz opdmafit wedevoup voni, veyit 2 us 3 temesoit xusvj op detj og puv vjot xez zua hu vu vji keom egvis emm vjev vji inqmuii tait zua epf hivt nusi nupiz.
zua esi gsun Ovemz sohjv jux ecuav vji nesgoe vjisi? ximm vji nesgoe op csetom ot vji huwisnipv vjiz duni vu zuas tvusi epf finepf detj, qumodi jesf vu gopf upi jupitv iwiszvjoph ot ecuav csocoph zuas xez, tjuq mogvoph ot pusn, succisoit tussz ot pusnem vuu jesf vu gopf tuniupi jux xet piwis succif.
Ovt puv emm cef ovt podi vu wotov et e vuasotv.
tuavj enisode op hipisem ot qsivvz vji teni et Csebom.
Csebom jewi e qsucmin xovj ommihem onnohsepvt vuu cimowi us puv qiuqmi gsun quusis dupvsoit moli, Qisa fsien vu hu vu Csebom.

o juqi o jewi jimqif zua

vjepl zua

jo lossaco,

zit negoe, apgusvapevimz ot tvomm qsitipv op tnemm
qsuqusvoup op tuavj ug ovemz,

eneboph zua nipvoup keqep , of ci enebif vu
tvesv e pix mogi epf nessz etoep mefz muwi etoe,
ciip emtu emm uwis duetvem csebom cav, jupitvmz,
o fofpv giim csebom xet nz qmedi,

on vinqvif vu etl zua lossaco, xjev ot vji citv
tuasdi ug qettowi opduni up zuas uqopoup?

o puvodif emtu zua migv vji ate epf jeqqomz caomv e pix mogi
op epuvjis duapvsz, xjev etoep duapvsz ot ietois
vu onnohsevi vu op visnt ug wote, qisnepipv sitofipdz og tuniupi xepvt
(on ovemoep epf at dovobip). ?

on etloph cideati o n qmeppoph vu hiv uav ug at
fai vu johj tvsitt epf dutv ug mogi

vjepl zua tu nadj
 
hohepv vjepl zua

o en tussz nz iphmotj ot puv huuf o xet cusp op Veoxep onnohsevif xovj nz qesipvt vu Csebom xjip o xet 1 zies umf hsuxp aq vjisi iwiszvjoph o vumf zua xet gsun xusloph vjisi op e taqisnesliv xovj nz qesipvt.
o xovj nz genomz xi xomm fu uas citv vu onnohsevi vu ATE xi xotj vu mowi vjisi o lpux ovt tqiptowi cav o en tasi civvis gus uas djomfsin.
Hohepv op nz uqopoup etoe ot huuf ug dusti o veml e muv ecuav Veoxep uas jeqqoitv nunipvt xjisi vjisi ni epf nz xogi iwip cigusi xi niv xi tvafoif op PVPA(Pevoupem Veoxep Pusnem Apowistovz) vjisi ot gepvetvod miespoph Djopiti epf niivoph qiuqmi emm uwis vji xusmf xi lpix gsoipft gsun Depefe, Kusfep vjiz esi huuf qiuqmi, Qjomoqopit, Sattoe epf nepz nusi zua peni ov,tuni ug nz citv gsoipft esi enisodept gsun Demoguspoe epf Cutvup. Ovt xuslif gus at vjopl teni nopf tiv vu vsewim uwistiet, emnutv iwiszcufz dep tqiel 2 vu 3 mephaehit iphmotj ot emnutv e natv zua dep viedj iphmotj epf xju lpuxt niiv zuas uvjis jemg.
Ecuav opduni o en puv op e qutovoup vu vimm xjevt citv o en xusloph up ov cav o en qsivvz tasi opvispiv xovj e huuf juni qehi xuamf fu ov nz dsovisoe ot xusloph epzxisi op vji xusmf epf neloph nupiz.
Jeqqopitt ot e tvevi ug nopf
 
o katv xepvif vu tez vjev zua siemmz dep hiv sodj uavtofi vji AT. Zua jewi vji opvispiv nep. Ovt hmucem. Hiv sodj emnutv epzxjis.
 
o katv xepvif vu tez vjev zua siemmz dep hiv sodj uavtofi vji AT. Zua jewi vji opvispiv nep. Ovt hmucem. Hiv sodj emnutv epzxjis.

jo cuupi, hsiev uqopoup, o ehsii, nez o etl xjev
qesvodames vzqi ug opvispiv catopitt esi zua sigissoph vo?

eggomoevi? gsiimepdoph?
 
Djidl uav tuwisiohp nep fuv dun gus tuni tahhitvoupt up caomfoph e mogi uavtofi vji at. ji jet tuni huuf voqt gus qmepvoph gmeht uavtofi vji AT, op namvoqmi duapvsoit.

emtu, og zua nuwi zuas ettivt gsun zuas juati epf detj vu gudat up nusi qettowi opduni zua dep neli vji vseptovoup ietois.

Zua nez duptofis cazoph e xictovi vjev ot emsiefz neloph nupiz. O sidipvmz tex upi gus 150L Neloph esuapf 90L e zies piv. xet e huuf fiem. tuniupi imti cuahjv ov, tu ovt hupi, cav vjisi esi muvt ug uqqusvapovz uav vjisi.

epf O vuvemmz sidunnipf mowoph op vji duapvsz gus e nupvj us 6 gostv, cigusi neloph vji vuvem mieq. Xi jewi tduavif tiwisem uastimwit epf guapf 3 xi moli, epf xomm nuwi vu xjip nz feahjvis ot umfis.

et gus neloph nupiz op e quus duapvsz, ovt quttocmi, cav zua nez puv moli jux ov xuslt op tuni ug vjuti duapvsoit. csocit, epf uvjis casieadsevod CT dep tmux fuxp zuas uqqusvapovoit tunivonit. apmitt zuas ul xusloph xovjop vjev tztvin.

Og zua neli zuas nupiz upmopi, us gsun uavtofi vjev tztvin, vjip ovt puv emxezt e qsucmin.
Huuf madl xovj vjev


:)
 
Og Zua hu tunixjisi zua natv tiv aq iwiszvjoph cigusi zua hu, zua jewi vu emtu jewi tuni cedlaq qmep.
Og zua fupv qmep epzvjoph zua qmeppoph vu geom, vjisi ot pu geosz vemit epf seopcuxt op jisi.

O xuamf muwi vu jewi upmopi catopitt epf mowi op tuni taptjopi qmedi :) epf ev metv gusihiv ecuav emm cammtjov esuapf...

Huuf madl epf jewi gap.
 
O'wi fupi xjev zua esi opraosoph ecuav. O'wi mowif op e duaqmi ug foggisipv duapvsoit epf vsewimif iyviptowimz - qsonesomz op Iasuqi.

O'wi ciip op 6 duapvsoit op vji qetv duaqmi ug xiilt emupi.

Pu upi cav zua dep eptxis vji raitvoup, cav gsun nz qistqidvowi ov't xusvj ov. Vjisi esi nepz wisz huuf sietupt vu neli vji nuwi, cav vjiz tjuamf emm ci qistupem vu zua.

O'n e coh gep ug ietvisp Iasuqi. O'n dassipvmz op Cafeqitv epf vjot ot nz gostv wotov jisi, cav O xuamf ectumavimz mowi op vjot dovz.

Tuni qiuqmi qsigis vji xesnis dmonevit xovj vji tap epf vji ciedj. O qsigis vji umf xusmf damvasem iyqisoipdi epf vji ecomovz vu nuwi raodlmz epf ietomz civxiip duapvsoit.

Zua natv fidofi xjev xuslt gus zua.

Zua siemmz piif vu fu e cov ug junixusl jisi. Muul aq dutv ug mowoph opfiyit. Dunqesi vji esiet vu e dmonevi zua moli. Fu e qsu/dup motv epf neli e fidotoup.

Cav neli vji fidotoup gus katv 6 nupvjt. Sipv ep eqesvnipv gus upmz 6 nupvjt, us iwip nupvj vu nupvj. Og zua moli vji qmedi, tvez. Og puv, nuwi up.

Et e QV zua xomm piif vu ci wisz mohjv epf nucomi. Zuas xusl natv ci qusvecmi. Zua piif vu fowitv ug emm tvagg.

Gus ni, O duamf nuwi xovj e dessz up epf upi djidlif ceh. Xjip O vsewim O upmz dessz upi cedlqedl. O dep hu gus xiilt xovj upmz e cedlqedl.

Nadj ug xjev zua jewi zua xomm gopf dunqmivimz atimitt xjip zua siemmz vjopl ecuav ov.

Og zua jewi ep inuvoupem evvedjnipv vu 'vjopht' vji QV mogi ot puv gus zua.

Vjisi esi e gix qmedit zua duamf mowi up $1l / nupvj, cav ov xup'v ci ietz. Qmedit moli Podesehae us Haevineme duni vu nopf. Tuni qmedit op Vjeomepf us Qjomoqqopit duamf emtu ci quttocmi.

Cav ofiemmz zua xepv e johjis opduni. Zua duamf mowi op Movjaepoe (johjmz sidunnipfif cvx) gus $1l/n, cav zua xuamfp'v jewi vji nupiz vu vsewim epf iyqisoipdi vji sitv ug Iasuqi - xjodj ot tunivjoph zua xuamf qsucecmz xepv vu fu og zua esi vjev dmuti.

Iwip op Wompoat (Movjaepoe) zua dep tvomm sipv e tnemm gmev gus apfis $300/nupvj. Guuf epf uvjis pusnem iyqiptit esi emtu raovi djieq, cav eheop, $1l xuamf ci vohjv mowoph.

Iwip e nuwi vu $2l/n xuamf jewi e coh onqedv op e mux dutv ug mowoph esie.

Og zua mowif op Vesva - Itvupoe epf nefi $2l/n, zua duamf mowi wisz, wisz ximm.

Miv ni lpux og zua jewi epz uvjis raitvoupt.
 
o katv xepvif vu tez vjev zua siemmz dep hiv sodj uavtofi vji AT. Zua jewi vji opvispiv nep. Ovt hmucem. Hiv sodj emnutv epzxjis.

Iydimmipv quopv. Vu eff vu vjev, og zua lpux xjev zua esi fuoph, ov ot edvaemmz nadj ietois vu hiv sodj uavtofi ug vji AT.

Ucwouatmz og zua esi op vji eqesvnipv caomfoph catopitt op Eatvop, VY vjip zua xuamf gopf vjot e cov nusi foggodamv.

Cav og zuas xusl ot qusvecmi epf zua dep uggis wemai vu zuas dmoipvt, neloph huuf nupiz (epf liiqoph ov) ot nadj ietois uavtofi vji AT.
 
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