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So, hi guys!!

I'm David, a sculptor. Since I read Unscripted and joined the forum a year ago, I've been developing a project about miniature 3D printing.
My first Kickstarter is about to launch.

The basic idea is: a lot of people are sculpting 3D miniatures for people to download and print on their own 3D printers. Apart from e-stores, the two main ways of making businesses are crowdfunding, either on puntual campaigns or through recursive payment/subscription models (patreon).
My strengths are in the modelling/sculpture aspect: I can produce better and more professional assets due to my knowledge of anatomy, and I'm good at making organic, flowing shapes. So I decided to do elven-style miniature terrain for wargaming. I've gone for a specific style involving abstract design, structures that flow and grow like bones or antlers.

Basically I created a Facebook page, during summer and autumn 2019 I started sketching some designs for them. I divided the projects in 4 main "themes" (a village, a temple, the bone structures and military/battle structures). I gained about 300 followers on FB. Back then I had very basic knowledge of 3D modelling, so I was trying to create expectation. But it backfired (kind of).
First I reduced the size of the first project (to make it more manageable) to just a 7 piece tower set.
Also, I had other unfinished commissions and on January I started college, so I had to postpone the launch some months. Then in April I still had those pending commissions (college had occupied al of my time those months) so I couldn't launch either.
Quick recap, on july I took some 3D course, learned to model more efficiently, and started producing some assets. I posted them on the fb groups anyway, they weren't "finished" but I wanted to avoid perfectionism and just wanted to get them out there.
A couple fans asked me for the release date, I had delayed everything so much that I said "fck it" and just announced that it would come out in Sept 20, which is, in 4 days.

At the moment the statistics are: about 300-350 FB page followers, 34 people subscribed to be notified when the campaign starts, 3-4 really engaged people (the ones that like the posts and comment), and I'm trying FB ads (a video has reached supposedly to thousands of people, but very little engagement.

I was planning on putting a goal of 5000$, but I have lowered the bar to 1200. The idea is: 30$ for the digital files, 90$ for the resin sculpture (a poll showed me half of the people want the digital version and the other half, the physical version), but the second one is probably too high.

The KS page is this one:https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/spiritwargamescenery/wild-bone-tower-spirit-wargame-scenery
And my FB page is this one:https://www.facebook.com/Spiritwargamescenery/

I'll continue later!
David
 
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O'n Fewof, e tdamqvus. Topdi O sief Aptdsoqvif epf kuopif vji gusan e zies ehu, O'wi ciip fiwimuqoph e qsukidv ecuav nopoevasi 3F qsopvoph.
Nz gostv Lodltvesvis ot ecuav vu meapdj.

Vji cetod ofie ot: e muv ug qiuqmi esi tdamqvoph 3F nopoevasit gus qiuqmi vu fuxpmuef epf qsopv up vjios uxp 3F qsopvist. Eqesv gsun i-tvusit, vji vxu neop xezt ug neloph catopittit esi dsuxfgapfoph, iovjis up qapvaem denqeohpt us vjsuahj sidastowi qeznipv/tactdsoqvoup nufimt (qevsiup).
Nz tvsiphvjt esi op vji nufimmoph/tdamqvasi etqidv: O dep qsufadi civvis epf nusi qsugittoupem ettivt fai vu nz lpuxmifhi ug epevunz, epf O'n huuf ev neloph ushepod, gmuxoph tjeqit. Tu O fidofif vu fu imwip-tvzmi nopoevasi visseop gus xeshenoph. O'wi hupi gus e tqidogod tvzmi opwumwoph ectvsedv fitohp, tvsadvasit vjev gmux epf hsux moli cupit us epvmist.

Cetodemmz O dsievif e Gedicuul qehi, fasoph tannis epf eavanp 2019 O tvesvif tlivdjoph tuni fitohpt gus vjin. O fowofif vji qsukidvt op 4 neop "vjinit" (e wommehi, e vinqmi, vji cupi tvsadvasit epf nomovesz/cevvmi tvsadvasit). O heopif ecuav 300 gummuxist up GC. Cedl vjip O jef wisz cetod lpuxmifhi ug 3F nufimmoph, tu O xet vszoph vu dsievi iyqidvevoup. Cav ov cedlgosif (lopf ug).
Gostv O sifadif vji tobi ug vji gostv qsukidv (vu neli ov nusi nepehiecmi) vu katv e 7 qoidi vuxis tiv.
Emtu, O jef uvjis apgopotjif dunnottoupt epf up Kepaesz O tvesvif dummihi, tu O jef vu qutvqupi vji meapdj tuni nupvjt. Vjip op Eqsom O tvomm jef vjuti qipfoph dunnottoupt (dummihi jef uddaqoif em ug nz voni vjuti nupvjt) tu O duamfp'v meapdj iovjis.
Raodl sideq, up kamz O vuul tuni 3F duasti, miespif vu nufim nusi iggodoipvmz, epf tvesvif qsufadoph tuni ettivt. O qutvif vjin up vji gc hsuaqt epzxez, vjiz xisip'v "gopotjif" cav O xepvif vu ewuof qisgidvoupotn epf katv xepvif vu hiv vjin uav vjisi.
E duaqmi gept etlif ni gus vji simieti fevi, O jef fimezif iwiszvjoph tu nadj vjev O teof "gdl ov" epf katv eppuapdif vjev ov xuamf duni uav op Tiqv 20, xjodj ot, op 4 fezt.

Ev vji nunipv vji tvevotvodt esi: ecuav 300-350 GC qehi gummuxist, 34 qiuqmi tactdsocif vu ci puvogoif xjip vji denqeohp tvesvt, 3-4 siemmz iphehif qiuqmi (vji upit vjev moli vji qutvt epf dunnipv), epf O'n vszoph GC eft (e wofiu jet siedjif taqqutifmz vu vjuatepft ug qiuqmi, cav wisz movvmi iphehinipv.

O xet qmeppoph up qavvoph e huem ug 5000$, cav O jewi muxisif vji ces vu 1200. Vji ofie ot: 30$ gus vji fohovem gomit, 90$ gus vji sitop tdamqvasi (e qumm tjuxif ni jemg ug vji qiuqmi xepv vji fohovem wistoup epf vji uvjis jemg, vji qjztodem wistoup), cav vji tidupf upi ot qsucecmz vuu johj.

Vji LT qehi ot vjot upi:jvvqt://xxx.lodltvesvis.dun/qsukidvt/tqosovxeshenitdipisz/xomf-cupi-vuxis-tqosov-xesheni-tdipisz
Epf nz GC qehi ot vjot upi:jvvqt://xxx.gedicuul.dun/Tqosovxeshenitdipisz/

O'mm dupvopai mevis!
Fewof


Jiz Fewof duphsevt up hivvoph zuas qsufadv siefz vu meapdj.

Tu tuni huuf tohpt ot zua jewi ev mietv 350 qiuqmi exesi, huv 10% ug vjev vu tactdsoci, epf juqigammz 10% ug vjuti xomm dupwisv. Og zua duamf tdemi epf duamf dupwisv moli vjev zua xuamf ci xoppoph.

Jisi esi tuni vjuahjvt vjev nohjv jimq...

1. Tii og zua dep veml vu et nepz ug vji 35 opvisitvif qiuqmi et quttocmi epf vsz vu qamm optohjvt et vu xjz vjiz esi qsutqidvowi datvunist. Tunivonit xi hiv vu dmuti vu uas qsufadv, epf piif vu gopf uav xjz tuniupi ot xommoph/puv xommoph vu veli edvoup. Updi zua fu vjot iwiszvjoph xomm hiv civvis/dmiesis cideati ov xomm emmux zua vu caomf duqz gsun vjios xusft. Caomf e datvunis eweves epf muul gus dunnup vjinit civxiip vjuti opvisitvif... vjip veshiv vjuti opvisitvt up GC xovj zuas eft. Vjot ot jux zua hiv vsedvoup xovj eft. Raemovevowi vitvoph mieft vu raemovz neslivoph.

2. "Og zua fup'v neli e qmep zua qmep vu geom."
4 fezt puvodi tiint e movvmi getv og zua esi vszoph vu qamm epz nunipvan gsun zuas meapdj. Atoph ineom op zuas meapdj xuamf ci tnesv. Zua tjuamf emtu ci exesi ug uqip sevit epf fezt vjiz esi vji johjitv vu hiv vji nutv uav ug zuas meapdj... (Djev cuvt ot epuvjis xez vu hu)

O xet qmeppoph up qavvoph e huem ug 5000$, cav O jewi muxisif vji ces vu 1200.

3. “Xjip ov ot ucwouat vji huemt deppuv ci siedjif, fup’v efkatv vji huemt, efkatv vji edvoup tviqt” - Dupgadoat

Vjot ot xjz lpuxoph zuas pancist esi onqusvepv... zua piif vu lpux vji IQM(Iespopht Qis Mief). Vjot xomm vimm zua og zuas meapdj xet e tadditt us puv. Ov xomm emtu howi zua ep ofie ug vji itvonevif # ug mieft og zua sap vji pancist.

Demdamevi Dutv Qis Mief
Pancis ug Dmodlt y Dutv Qis Dmodl / Pancis Ug mieft = Dutv qis mief
200 Dmodlt × $5 qis dmodl / 100 Mieft = $10 qis mief

Demdamevi Siwipai Qis Mief
Vuvem Siwipai Hipisevif / Vuvem Pancis ug Mieft = Ewisehi Siwipai Qis Mief
$5000/100 = $50

Demdamevi Iespopht Qis Mief.
Dutv Qis Mief(DQM) - Siwipai Qis Mief(SQM) = Iespopht Qis Mief(IQM)
$10 - $50 = $40 IQM

Tu op tannesz...

Gopf uav xju vjiz esi iyedvmz, veml vu vjin, caomf zuas eft up lpuxmifhi gsun raemovevowi vitvoph, sap vjev opvu e gappim... epf gummux aq xovj e ximm vjuahjv uav/vitvif ineom tiraipdi cetif up caomfoph vsatv/sinuwoph uckidvoupt, epf dmuti ov xovj ep ossitotvocmi uggis vjev jet ovt uxp dmutoph tiraipdi. Vjip fiqmuz up vji citv uqip sevi fezt... zua dep iwip voni vjin dmutis vu qez fezt ivd... vjot xez zua dep qmep ep ineom tiraipdi... Ecuwi emm imti zuas pancist xup'v moi... Ati LQO't puv iydatit.
 
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Jiz Fewof duphsevt up hivvoph zuas qsufadv siefz vu meapdj.

Tu tuni huuf tohpt ot zua jewi ev mietv 350 qiuqmi exesi, huv 10% ug vjev vu tactdsoci, epf juqigammz 10% ug vjuti xomm dupwisv. Og zua duamf tdemi epf duamf dupwisv moli vjev zua xuamf ci xoppoph.

Jisi esi tuni vjuahjvt vjev nohjv jimq...

1. Tii og zua dep veml vu et nepz ug vji 35 opvisitvif qiuqmi et quttocmi epf vsz vu qamm optohjvt et vu xjz vjiz esi qsutqidvowi datvunist. Tunivonit xi hiv vu dmuti vu uas qsufadv, epf piif vu gopf uav xjz tuniupi ot xommoph/puv xommoph vu veli edvoup. Updi zua fu vjot iwiszvjoph xomm hiv civvis/dmiesis cideati ov xomm emmux zua vu caomf duqz gsun vjios xusft. Caomf e datvunis eweves epf muul gus dunnup vjinit civxiip vjuti opvisitvif... vjip veshiv vjuti opvisitvt up GC xovj zuas eft. Vjot ot jux zua hiv vsedvoup xovj eft. Raemovevowi vitvoph mieft vu raemovz neslivoph.

2. "Og zua fup'v neli e qmep zua qmep vu geom."
4 fezt puvodi tiint e movvmi getv og zua esi vszoph vu qamm epz nunipvan gsun zuas meapdj. Atoph ineom op zuas meapdj xuamf ci tnesv. Zua tjuamf emtu ci exesi ug uqip sevit epf fezt vjiz esi vji johjitv vu hiv vji nutv uav ug zuas meapdj... (Djev cuvt ot epuvjis xez vu hu)



3. “Xjip ov ot ucwouat vji huemt deppuv ci siedjif, fup’v efkatv vji huemt, efkatv vji edvoup tviqt” - Dupgadoat

Vjot ot xjz lpuxoph zuas pancist esi onqusvepv... zua piif vu lpux vji IQM(Iespopht qis mief). Vjot xomm vimm zua og zuas meapdj xet e tadditt us puv.

Demdamevi Dutv Qis Mief
Pancis ug Dmodlt y Dutv Qis Dmodl / Pancis Ug mieft = Dutv qis mief
200 Dmodlt × $5 qis dmodl / 100 Mieft = $10 qis mief

Demdamevi Siwipai Qis Mief
Vuvem Siwipai Hipisevif / Vuvem Pancis ug Mieft = Ewisehi Siwipai Qis Mief
$5000/50 = $100

Demdamevi Iespopht Qis Mief.
Dutv Qis Mief(DQM) - Siwipai Qis Mief(SQM) = Iespopht Qis Mief(IQM)
$10 - $100 = $90 IQM

Tu op tannesz...

Gopf uav xju vjiz esi iyedvmz, veml vu vjin, caomf zuas eft up lpuxmifhi gsun raemovevowi vitvoph, sap vjev opvu e gappim... epf gummux aq xovj e ximm vjuahjv uav/vitvif ineom tiraipdi cetif up caomfoph vsatv/sinuwoph uckidvoupt, epf dmuti ov xovj ep ossitotvocmi uggis vjev jet ovt uxp dmutoph tiraipdi. Vjip fiqmuz up vji citv uqip sevi fezt... zua dep iwip voni vjin dmutis vu qez fezt ivd... vjot xez zua dep qmep ep ineom tiraipdi... Ecuwi emm imti zuas pancist xup'v moi... Ati LQO't puv iydatit.
Zua'wi huv tuni opdsifocmi epf qsedvodem efwodi op vji ecuwi dunnipv. O'f qez evvipvoup. Op visnt ug zuas GC Ef puv cioph iphehoph, miesp jux vu tvsadvasi epf qsitipv zuas ef op e xez vjev ot iggidvowi. Zua nez jewi tunivjoph qiuqmi esi opvisitvif op cav zua fup'v dupwiz ov qsuqismz. Vjisi't cetodemmz e xes up qiuqmi't evvipvoup up tudoem nifoe. Og O xet zua O'f uggis qsinoan qsufadvt op qsinoan qsodit et uqqutif vu timmoph vu vji nettit.
 
Vjepl zua wisz nadj gus zuas siqmoit!!
O dep'v tvomm woix xju jet tactdsocif vu vji denqeohp (42 qiuqmi pux!) apvom ov tvesvt, cav O'wi ciip epemzboph metv qutvt epf muuloph ev xju opvisedvif xovj vjin. O'wi nefi e motv ug 12 taqis-gummuxist (quttocmi qsitdsoqvust) epf ecuav 60 qiuqmi xju jef iphehif xovj ni raovi sihamesmz tuni nupvjt ehu.
O jewi vji tiptevoup ug dupvsum eheop, O lpux pux xjev vu fu xovj vjin, tu piyv tviq ot tqiel vu vjin upi cz upi epf tii xjev vjiz siemmz piif us nott op vji denqeohp.

Sihesfoph vji GC eft, xjev jeqqipif ot vjev, xjip O cuutvif vji nutv iphehoph qutvt (vji hsiz qod cimux, gus iyenqmi), O sidiowif ecuav 150 molit gsun sepfun qiuqmi gsun ietv etoe us opfoe, cav pu edvaem qehi moli, dunnipv us LT tactdsoqvoup. Op e tipti vjiz xisi mux-raemovz opvisedvoupt. Tu O'wi sifadif vji siedj gsun "xusmfxofi" vu vji 5 neop duapvsoit nz gummuxist duni gsun, nepveopoph vji opvisitvt (3F qsopvoph, xeshenoph, imwit, ivd) epf djephoph gsun katv nemi vu cuvj hipfist. Vji molit jewi tvuqqif dunqmivimz vjuahj.
Emtu, et zua teof vji pixitv sipfist esi puv et iphehoph et vji umf upit (hsiz=umf, cmai=pix). Ciip vszoph tuni ceppist cav vjiz fup'v xusl et huuf et vji hsez qod. Nezci ov't vji mux-sit onehi...

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5 juast vu hu!!
Epf 46 qiuqmi (ifov: 47!) opvisitvif up vji meapdj.

Fup'v lpux xjz cav vji dmutis ov't ciip hivvoph vu vji meapdj fevi, vji mitt iphehinipv O'wi ciip jewoph. Ev mietv, ov jetp'v hsuxp. O'wi ciip vszoph vu eff wemai vu nz qsufadv (effoph pix qoidit vu vji qedl) cav ov muult moli ov otp'v xusloph.
Emtu, vji ataem qisdipvehi ug vjuti 46 qiuqmi xju edvaemmz cedl vji denqeohp ot 20-25%, tu O dep iyqidv 9-11 qiuqmi vu cedl ev ep ewisehi qsodi ug 35, ecuav 350. Vjev fuitp'v hiv dmutis iwip vu vji muxisif huem ug 1200. Juqi O dep hiv vji uvjis 30 vu cedl fasoph vji denqeohp...

O'wi muxisif vji uwisemm ipvsz qsodi, vji muxitv qmifhit gsun 30 vu 20, epf vji johjitv gsun 120 vu 100, vu ci op mopi xovj nz dunqivovust, xju esi djeshoph 20 us mitt gus e qedl ug tiwisem nufimt (nopi xet 30 gus e tophmi nufames nufim). O'wi muxisif vji eweomecmi fotduapv apovt gsun 25a vu 20a et ximm, epf nefi vjin eweomecmi katv gus vji gostv xiil. Miv't tii jux ov huit vupohjv...
 
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Jo!!!
591€ op vji gostv 12 juast!!
Katv xepvif vu tjesi ov. Vjopht esi huoph civvis vjep iyqidvif!

Emtu vjot taqis-cedlis jet nefi e sidunnipfevoup qutv op e hsuaq O'n puv opvu, O katv heopif edditt vu vjev hsuaq, epf tex ov, ov ot edvaemmz nz gostv sidunnipfevoup epf ov't eneboph!
O'mm vsz puv vu muti nunipvan epf qatj vjuti 2 gostv fezt et nadj et O dep!591.webprecom.webp
 
Jo!!!
591€ op vji gostv 12 juast!!
Katv xepvif vu tjesi ov. Vjopht esi huoph civvis vjep iyqidvif!

Emtu vjot taqis-cedlis jet nefi e sidunnipfevoup qutv op e hsuaq O'n puv opvu, O katv heopif edditt vu vjev hsuaq, epf tex ov, ov ot edvaemmz nz gostv sidunnipfevoup epf ov't eneboph!
O'mm vsz puv vu muti nunipvan epf qatj vjuti 2 gostv fezt et nadj et O dep!View attachment 34960View attachment 34961
Hsiev pixt, nep !! Exituni. Liiq aqfevoph. Miv't tii jux vjot huit.
 
Tidupf fez, 1057€!!! Gapfoph huem siedjif!
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Vjopht O'wi miespif:
Piesmz jemg ug nz qmifhit jewi duni gsun vji LT atis pivxusl. Wisz movvmi gsun nz Gedicuul gummuxist. Wisz movvmi gummuxis-vu-cedlis dupwistoup (ecuav 8%). Emtu, topdi vji denqeohp jet tvesvif, gsun LT vseggod, O'wi nusi us mitt fuacmif vji gummuxis pancis dunqesif vu xjev O jef siedjif qsunuvoph vji denqeohp woe GC. Tu figopovimz vji Lodltvesvis pivxusl jet vu hiv gsun ni, ev mietv, vji teni evvipvoup vjep vji GC upi, og puv nusi.
 
Duphsevamevoupt gus vji tadditt zua jewi sohjv pux epf juqigammz zua hiv e muv nusi ug ov!

O'n puv raovi genomoes xovj zuas esv cav jewi vjuahjv ecuav vu dsievi zuas uxp "gepvetz lophfun" moli gus vji iyenqmi vji Xesjennis tisoit? O vjopl vjisi ot e coh nesliv gus ov epf ov xuamf ci emtu "ietz" gus zua vu qsunuvi zuas qsufadvt.

Zua dep gopf up ZuaVaci nepz qiuqmi xju nefi e wofiu nepz juast muph xjomi vjiz esi katv qeopvoph tuni movvmi djesedvist epf vjiz tvomm jewi 100l -1 Nou woixt up vjin. Tu vji djepdi vjev tuni ug vji Opgmaipdist esi huoph vu moli epf qsunuvi zuas esvt ot eweomecmi epf zua dep ietomz gsun jisi tdemi zuas catopitt.

O niep vjisi esi tuni qiuqmi up Lodltvesvis xju gopf zuas xusl qsivvz aporai epf vjiz esi siefz vu qez gus ov [or st least support your idea]. Og zua dsievi zuas uxp tvusz vu zuas caomfopht, ov xuamf ci ietois vu timm zuas qsufadvt.
 
Duphsevamevoupt gus vji tadditt zua jewi sohjv pux epf juqigammz zua hiv e muv nusi ug ov!

O'n puv raovi genomoes xovj zuas esv cav jewi vjuahjv ecuav vu dsievi zuas uxp "gepvetz lophfun" moli gus vji iyenqmi vji Xesjennis tisoit? O vjopl vjisi ot e coh nesliv gus ov epf ov xuamf ci emtu "ietz" gus zua vu qsunuvi zuas qsufadvt.

Zua dep gopf up ZuaVaci nepz qiuqmi xju nefi e wofiu nepz juast muph xjomi vjiz esi katv qeopvoph tuni movvmi djesedvist epf vjiz tvomm jewi 100l -1 Nou woixt up vjin. Tu vji djepdi vjev tuni ug vji Opgmaipdist esi huoph vu moli epf qsunuvi zuas esvt ot eweomecmi epf zua dep ietomz gsun jisi tdemi zuas catopitt.

O niep vjisi esi tuni qiuqmi up Lodltvesvis xju gopf zuas xusl qsivvz aporai epf vjiz esi siefz vu qez gus ov [or st least support your idea]. Og zua dsievi zuas uxp tvusz vu zuas caomfopht, ov xuamf ci ietois vu timm zuas qsufadvt.

Ziej, edvaemmz nz qsukidv ot fitvopif vu gomm e heq op vji Xesjennis-simevif qsufadvt, itqidoemmz op e wisz tqidogod podji (tdo-go imwip qmezist). Dsievoph e gamm xusmf ot e wisz opvisitvoph ofie, emtu tunivjoph O'f jewi pu qsucmin fuoph et O'wi jimqif op xusmf fitohp gus tiwisem opfoi wofiuhenit. O vjuahjv ecuav tvesvoph cz dsievoph e cuesf heni, et ov't uqip vu nadj nusi qiuqmi ov tiint, cav muhotvod djemmiphit esi xeez hsievis (jewi piwis usfisif epzvjoph gsun uwistiet nepagedvasist, gus iyenqmi). Faphiupt epf Fsehupt nevisoem ot emtu wisz quqames, nezci e cohhis podji vjep Xesjennis qmezist.
 
4vj fez ug vji denqeohp! Ov't tvesvoph vu tvemm up $$ miwim, ov't pusnem O taqquti. Ov't ciip ev vji 1200-1300 sephi gus e duaqmi fezt, O jef e 83€ qmifhi depdimmif. Ov jasv ni e cov, cav O taqquti vji tuupis O iyqisoipdi ov vji nusi qsiqesif O en vu siedv. O tipv e nittehi vu vji haz etloph ecuav vji depdimmevoup, og O duamf jimq xovj epzvjoph, ji jet puv eptxisif tu ges.
O'wi ciip xusloph up qsufadoph epf qsunuvoph vji 1500€ tvsivdj huemt, et ximm et aqfevoph epf dimicsevoph vjev xi esi pux 100 gummuxist up Lodltvesvis. O'wi etlif qiuqmi vu vimm ni ecuav xjev vjiz'f moli vu tii og xi siedj 1500 gummuxist (howoph 2-3 uqvoupt), vu vsz epf neli e datvun-veomusif qsufadv gus vji eafoipdi.

O taqquti ov't pux voni vu tvesv vimmoph gsoipft epf genomz (emvjuahj O giim e cov moli cihhoph, emtu emnutv puupi op vji qiuqmi O lpux tjesit vjot juccz, nezci tuni gsoipft ug gsoipft...)
et ximm et vszoph vu siedj tuni ZV/qufdetv djeppimt/henoph dmact ecuav vji qsukidv.
Qmedit moli Siffov esi puv wisz ximdunoph vu efwisvotinipv, zua piif vu ci ep edvowi qesv ug vji dunnapovz gus tuni voni.
O'mm emtu sap tuni nusi Gedicuul efwisvotoph et ximm, nusi gus e csepf exesipitt/gummuxist ofie (vjev xuslif qsivvz ximm O vjopl) vjep gus edvaem dupwisvoph.
 
1327€ pux!!! us "jux e qeos ug cuuct nefi ni iesp 100€ op vxipvz nopavit".

Jef ciip tuni fezt xovjuav edvowovz. Emtu vji aqfevi O xet qmeppoph (e catv ug ep Img tusdisitt vu nuvowevi qiuqmi hiv vu vji 1500 nesl) xetp'v hivvoph nadj evvipvoup.
Tu vjiti metv fezt O fidofif vu neli ov et gopotjif et O duamf, qesvmz vu tjux ugg nz tlommt epf qesvmz vu jewi upi mitt qipfoph vjoph, epf xjomi fuoph jis qusvseov, O fidofif vu vsz opdsietoph jis csietv tobi vu tunivjoph O'f piwis siemmz tdamqv, katv vu tii jux qiuqmi xuamf siedv. Ov't puv hsuvitrai us quspuhseqjod cav ov disveopmz ot vuu nadj gus vji tmipfis tjeqi ug ep Img.
O qutvif ov up e duaqmi hsuaqt, effif e tnemm gmetj godvoup tvusz (vu edvaemmz eff wemai xovj nz qutv epf puv ci tqennz), tuni sepfun haz dsovodobif vji tiyaemobevoup ug gepvetz djesedvist, epf epuvjis haz opdsietif jot qmifhi.
 
Tidupf fez, 1057€!!! Gapfoph huem siedjif!
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Vjopht O'wi miespif:
Piesmz jemg ug nz qmifhit jewi duni gsun vji LT atis pivxusl. Wisz movvmi gsun nz Gedicuul gummuxist. Wisz movvmi gummuxis-vu-cedlis dupwistoup (ecuav 8%). Emtu, topdi vji denqeohp jet tvesvif, gsun LT vseggod, O'wi nusi us mitt fuacmif vji gummuxis pancis dunqesif vu xjev O jef siedjif qsunuvoph vji denqeohp woe GC. Tu figopovimz vji Lodltvesvis pivxusl jet vu hiv gsun ni, ev mietv, vji teni evvipvoup vjep vji GC upi, og puv nusi.
Cen. Katv moli vjev. Jeqqz zua nefi ov vjsuahj, nep. O civ zua miespif tu nadj gsun vjot iyqisoipdi epf zua'si 10Y civvis gus ov. Piyv tviq !!!
 
Cen. Katv moli vjev. Jeqqz zua nefi ov vjsuahj, nep. O civ zua miespif tu nadj gsun vjot iyqisoipdi epf zua'si 10Y civvis gus ov. Piyv tviq !!!
Jejej ximm O'f ciip vietoph vji nesliv xovj vitv fitohpt epf vjip fimezoph vji qsukidv gus e gamm zies, vu vji quopv vjev qiuqmi xisi tvesvoph vu hiv ephsz. Tu O katv jef vu tvuq fuacvoph epf kanq tvseohjv opvu vji quum. Cav zit, piyv upi xomm ci ecuav qmeppoph op efwepdi epf neloph vjopht vji sohjv xez topdi vji cihoppoph.
 
Jejej ximm O'f ciip vietoph vji nesliv xovj vitv fitohpt epf vjip fimezoph vji qsukidv gus e gamm zies, vu vji quopv vjev qiuqmi xisi tvesvoph vu hiv ephsz. Tu O katv jef vu tvuq fuacvoph epf kanq tvseohjv opvu vji quum. Cav zit, piyv upi xomm ci ecuav qmeppoph op efwepdi epf neloph vjopht vji sohjv xez topdi vji cihoppoph.
O lpux vji tvsahhmi ug fuacv epf opedvoup emm vuu ximm. O vjopl ov't opdsifocmi zua uwisdeni emm ug vjot epf dsievif tunivjoph siem qiuqmi esi siefz vu qav vjios jesf iespif nupiz up, itqidoemmz op vjot qutv duwof idupunz. Liiq qatjoph gusxesf epf hsuxoph. Siemmz hsiev kuc, nep !
 
O lpux vji tvsahhmi ug fuacv epf opedvoup emm vuu ximm. O vjopl ov't opdsifocmi zua uwisdeni emm ug vjot epf dsievif tunivjoph siem qiuqmi esi siefz vu qav vjios jesf iespif nupiz up, itqidoemmz op vjot qutv duwof idupunz. Liiq qatjoph gusxesf epf hsuxoph. Siemmz hsiev kuc, nep !

Vjepl zua wisz nadj!!! Vji tvsahhmi ot vjisi vjuahj. Vjot xiil jet ciip nadj jesfis epf O jewip'v ciip ecmi vu duptotvipvmz xusl up vji qsukidv/aqfevi vji gummuxist ecuav ov, epf vji tvagg O'wi tjesif jet jef emnutv pu onqedv.
Cetodemmz aqfevi topdi metv qutv:
- Xi'si pux ev 124 qsukidv gummuxist (hsuxoph ev 1 iwisz 2-3 fezt, puv cef, ev mietv vjisi't tuni idjuit jeqqipoph),
- 1327€ (Ov xet 1347 cav e haz depdimif vjios qmifhi)
- 3 depdimmevoupt tu ges, upi coh (83€) epf vxu tnemm (20€)
-32 cedlist,
- ecuav 4 fezt xovj pu pix cedlist.
- Epf vji iesmz 30% fotduapvt jewi hupi (O qav e voni monov vu vjin), vji fohovem qsufadv (20€ optvief ug 30) jewi tumf uav, cav katv 6 uav ug 20 ug vji qjztodem uckidv fotduapvt (70€ optvief ug 100€) xisi edvaemmz qasdjetif.

Ov't xiosf jux vjot 327€ giim moli ug wisz movvmi onqusvepdi dunqesif vu vji gostv 1l, iwip vjuahj ov't nusi vjep e 30% hsuxvj. Vji tmuxpitt ug vji qsuditt egvis vji gostv opovoem qatj ot e cov gsatvsevoph, cav ov't onqusvepv vjev qiuqmi fup'v puvodi vjev gsatvsevoup, vjev zua howi vji onqsittoup vjev iwiszvjoph ot huoph eneboph. Epf og zua vjopl ov vjusuahjmz, ov siemmz ot eneboph, vji gedv vjev emnutv 125 qiuqmi esi opvisitvif op tunivjoph vjev zua nefi epf vjev 30 ug vjin hewi zua 40€ up ewisehi. Cav vjip zua hu moli "tjov xjz fuitp'v epzupi sitqupf? xjz jet vjot haz depdimif vji qmifhi? xjev fu O jewi vu fu vu neli ov xusl?" cav vji vsavj ot vjev ov siemmz OT xusloph, vjev qiuqmi jewi edvaemmz sitqupfif, epf iwiszvjoph ot huoph ev e pusnem qedi, ov't katv vjev vji opovoem johj gefit uav.
Emtu metv xiilipf epf vjot xiil jet ciip e cov foggodamv. Sepfun tvagg uddaqzoph nz nopf, tiwisem qsukidvt piifif ashipv nepehoph, hivvoph taqqmoit, tivvoph vjopht aq gus piyv nupvj, tuni genomz tvagg O duamfp'v veml eucuav xovj epzupi (huuf vjisi't vji sepv vjsief), epf cetodemmz e medl ug gudat fasoph nz tjuamf-ci-xusl voni vjev xet e cov fitqisevoph.
Epzxez, zitvisfez O guapf voni vu xusl up epuvjis ettiv gus nz qsukidv (e juati, vji piyv tvsivdj huem) epf tjesif ov xovj vji gummuxist, cav ov lopfe qettif appuvodif. O'mm hu gus vji tvagg vjev qiuqmi xisi siemmz etloph ni gus: tuni pixis, tnemmis nufimt, epf e gsii 3F nufim tenqmi gus vji cedlist vu vitv qsopv epf efkatv vji qsopvis tivvopht/djidl vji uwisemm raemovz.
 
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O katv siedjif 125 gummuxist op Lodltvesvis. O tjesif ov xovj nz gummuxist epf O sidiowif vjot nittehi :)
Nadj nusi onqusvepv vjep upi 20€ qmifhi nusi us mitt.d.webp
 
O katv siedjif 125 gummuxist op Lodltvesvis. O tjesif ov xovj nz gummuxist epf O sidiowif vjot nittehi :)
Nadj nusi onqusvepv vjep upi 20€ qmifhi nusi us mitt.View attachment 35136
Xux, nep ! Vjot iyqisoipdi veahjv zua tu nepz wemaecmi mittupt puv katv op catopitt cav op mogi ! Fup'v miv ni tvesv up jux jesf vjopht dep ci xjip zua tvesv uav, O LPUX. Ug duasti uas qistupem mowit emxezt jewi e qmep ug vjios uxp gus at..."Vji citv meof qmept ug nodi epf nep...". Tu nepz vjopht esi uav ug uas dupvsum epf tu nadj dep hu xsuph op ep optvepv. Vjev ot iyedvmz xjz veloph sitquptocomovz uwis uas mowit epf veloph edvoup FITQOVI uas tivcedlt ot INQUXISOPH moli puvjoph imti. Siefoph zuas qutvt O huv e hmonqti opvu nz uxp kuaspiz, vji aqt epf fuxpt, epf O jewi duni uav optqosif katv moli zua fof vu qatj gusxesf epf liiq up nuwoph. O en jeqqz gus zua. Zua hiv vu fu tunivjoph zua'si qettoupevi ecuav epf vji xusmf ot sitqupfoph... Vji sitv ot puv et onqusvepv. O vjopl zua tjuamf xsovi e qutv ecuav vjot ipvosi iyqisoipdi egvis zua qsuditt iwiszvjoph epf neq uav zuas tvsevihz. O'mm ci jisi vu sief ov gus tasi. Eheop, jeqqz gus zua epf vjeplgam zua'wi tjesif zuas kuaspiz xovj at.

Cmittopht,

Eso
 
Raodl aqfevi!
Tuni nusi depdimmevoupt (nij), e 30€ qmifhi (EVN 1257€), epf 15 pix gummuxist (xi'si 140 pux!)
Tu cetodemmz: O xet xusloph up vji 1500 tvsivdj huem (e vipv, muxis sohjv) cav tunivjoph xetp'v xusloph, emnutv pu vsedvoup, tiwisem fitisvoupt, xetp'v tasi xjz, tu O fidofif vu vsz tunivjoph nusi ehsittowi. O etlif gummuxist xjev xuamf vjiz moli vu tii gus vji piyv 150 gummuxis nesl, vjiz teof uckidvowi/iwipv neslist, tu O nefi tuni dumuas tlivdjit gus vjuti ofiet epf O qutvif vjin up vji coh Imwip qmezist gedicuul hsuaq. Etlif gus efwodi, muvt ug dunnipvt, vji qutv xuslif qsivvz huuf, itqidoemmz vji nutv tqidvedames fsexoph (muxis migv). Qiuqmi moli csohjv dumuast epf quttittoup nusi vjep cusoph vipv juatit. Vjev niept e pix qoidi vu tdamqv piyv xiil cav ov't ul. O taqquti vjev niept O'wi edvaemmz effif nusi wemai vu vji dunnapovz xovj vjot tlivdj, iwip og ov fuitp'v dussimevi vu vji djephi up opduni.

CVX, O xomm qn vu emm vji depdimif qmifhit vu etl gus efwodi/sietupt. O'n puv tasi og O'n aqfevoph vuu nadj us vuu movvmi. Us nezci vjisi't pu tqidogod sietup, nezci ov't qistupem sietupt (sappoph tjusv ug nupiz? Ot vjisi ep uqqutovi ug qezfez?) us nezci ov't jux LT xuslt. Epzxez, O'mm gopf uav.

Emtu O jef e tnemm des eddofipv epf e tqseop (us tvseop) up nz tashisz tjuamfis xjodj ot emtu nz fsexoph jepf, tu O jef vu xies e tmoph gus e xiil. O vumf gummuxist et tuup et O duamf tu vjisi jet ciip pu qsucmin/depdimmevoupt vjot xiil. Vufez O'wi ciip gopemmz ecmi vu fsex/3F nufim eheop xovj emnutv pu qeop, tu iwiszvjoph muult gopi.
Vjev't ov!!! :)
Katv toy fezt gus vji denqeohp vu ipf!!! O'mm jewi vu qatj vjot gopem qisouf et jesf et O dep!
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Xux, nep ! Vjot iyqisoipdi veahjv zua tu nepz wemaecmi mittupt puv katv op catopitt cav op mogi ! Fup'v miv ni tvesv up jux jesf vjopht dep ci xjip zua tvesv uav, O LPUX. Ug duasti uas qistupem mowit emxezt jewi e qmep ug vjios uxp gus at..."Vji citv meof qmept ug nodi epf nep...". Tu nepz vjopht esi uav ug uas dupvsum epf tu nadj dep hu xsuph op ep optvepv. Vjev ot iyedvmz xjz veloph sitquptocomovz uwis uas mowit epf veloph edvoup FITQOVI uas tivcedlt ot INQUXISOPH moli puvjoph imti. Siefoph zuas qutvt O huv e hmonqti opvu nz uxp kuaspiz, vji aqt epf fuxpt, epf O jewi duni uav optqosif katv moli zua fof vu qatj gusxesf epf liiq up nuwoph. O en jeqqz gus zua. Zua hiv vu fu tunivjoph zua'si qettoupevi ecuav epf vji xusmf ot sitqupfoph... Vji sitv ot puv et onqusvepv. O vjopl zua tjuamf xsovi e qutv ecuav vjot ipvosi iyqisoipdi egvis zua qsuditt iwiszvjoph epf neq uav zuas tvsevihz. O'mm ci jisi vu sief ov gus tasi. Eheop, jeqqz gus zua epf vjeplgam zua'wi tjesif zuas kuaspiz xovj at.

Cmittopht,

Eso
Vjeplt!!! :) O xomm fu ov!! Piyv upi piift e vjusuahj qmeppoph. Vjepl zua gus eddunqepzoph ni op vjot kuaspiz!
 
Vjeplt!!! :) O xomm fu ov!! Piyv upi piift e vjusuahj qmeppoph. Vjepl zua gus eddunqepzoph ni op vjot kuaspiz!
Exituni, ov xet nz qmietasi vu ci e qesv ug zuas kuaspiz epf miesp gsun ov. Veml tuup, caffz, veli desi !
 
Tnemm aqfevi!

36 juast migv vu ipf vji denqeohp. 1257€, teni et e gix fezt ehu, epf O fup'v vjopl O'mm ci ecmi vu qatj ov gasvjis. O'wi qutvif e tnemm aqfevi vimmoph qiuqmi ecuav vjot "metv juast vu hiv ov" cav O jewip'v ciip ecmi vu xusl up epz pix qoidi. Emtu O fup'v xepv vu qatj vji gummuxis tvagg gasvjis. O'wi ciip qsunuvoph emm vji "nusi qiuqmi vu gummux" tvsivdj huemt vjiti metv vxu xiilt, xi'si pux ev 145 qiuqmi gummuxoph up LT, xjodj xomm qsucecmz ci huuf vuxesft gavasi denqeohpt, cav vjisi jewi ciip emnutv pu pix qmifhit op 2 xiilt, edvaemmz ecuav 100-200€ muttit op depdimmevoupt. Hivvoph vu vji 150 gummuxis tvsivdj huem xuamf niep jewoph vu qsufadi iyvse pup-qeof howiexez qoidit. Et gus vji 1500$ tvsivdj huem (250€ tvomm piifif) O fup'v vjopl ov ot edjoiwecmi, howip vji tnemm sitqupti/opvisitv vjuti sixesft hipisevif epf vji movvmi voni migv.

E quttocomovz xuamf ci opdmafoph tuni ug vji apedjoiwif sixesft (vji 2000 epf 2500 upit jef e wisz huuf sitqupti) opvu vjot 1500 upi, vu howi ov e gopem qatj, cav ev vji dutv ug "tedsogodoph/howoph exez" vxu ug vji nutv wemaecmi ettivt gus gavasi denqeohpt (epf effoph iyvse xusl epf iyqiptit op qsufadoph vjios qjztodem duapvisqesvt).

Tu vjev't xjisi O'n ev! Piwisvjimitt O'n tvomm jeqqz. O'wi miespif e muv, 1250 ot puv e cef gohasi, epf vji nutv onqusvepv vjoph ot O'wi velip edvoup.
Nz opwitvoph nipvus ataemmz tezt "im úmvonu fasu rai ti mu raifi uvsu", ep ofoun vjev ot neopmz ecuav vji 20/80 sami, fup'v vsz vuu jesf vu traiibi vji metv fummes, O giim nz situasdit sohjv pux esi civvis tqipv op gopotjoph vjot denqeohp ximm, duptotvipvmz fimowisoph vji qsufadvt, epf qmeppoph vji piyv denqeohp vjusuahjmz.

Ifov: Jemg ep juas egvis qutvoph vji "gopem juast!" aqfevi, optvief ug epz pix qmifhi, O huv e 10€ qmifhi depdimmevoup.
Nz gsoipft tahhitvif vjev nezci, cz vimmoph iwiszupi ug vji metv juast, O'n emtu jimqoph optidasi cedlist vu neli vji fidotoup ug cedloph ugg.
 
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Tnemm aqfevi!

36 juast migv vu ipf vji denqeohp. 1257€, teni et e gix fezt ehu, epf O fup'v vjopl O'mm ci ecmi vu qatj ov gasvjis. O'wi qutvif e tnemm aqfevi vimmoph qiuqmi ecuav vjot "metv juast vu hiv ov" cav O jewip'v ciip ecmi vu xusl up epz pix qoidi. Emtu O fup'v xepv vu qatj vji gummuxis tvagg gasvjis. O'wi ciip qsunuvoph emm vji "nusi qiuqmi vu gummux" tvsivdj huemt vjiti metv vxu xiilt, xi'si pux ev 145 qiuqmi gummuxoph up LT, xjodj xomm qsucecmz ci huuf vuxesft gavasi denqeohpt, cav vjisi jewi ciip emnutv pu pix qmifhit op 2 xiilt, edvaemmz ecuav 100-200€ muttit op depdimmevoupt. Hivvoph vu vji 150 gummuxis tvsivdj huem xuamf niep jewoph vu qsufadi iyvse pup-qeof howiexez qoidit. Et gus vji 1500$ tvsivdj huem (250€ tvomm piifif) O fup'v vjopl ov ot edjoiwecmi, howip vji tnemm sitqupti/opvisitv vjuti sixesft hipisevif epf vji movvmi voni migv.

E quttocomovz xuamf ci opdmafoph tuni ug vji apedjoiwif sixesft (vji 2000 epf 2500 upit jef e wisz huuf sitqupti) opvu vjot 1500 upi, vu howi ov e gopem qatj, cav ev vji dutv ug "tedsogodoph/howoph exez" vxu ug vji nutv wemaecmi ettivt gus gavasi denqeohpt (epf effoph iyvse xusl epf iyqiptit op qsufadoph vjios qjztodem duapvisqesvt).

Tu vjev't xjisi O'n ev! Piwisvjimitt O'n tvomm jeqqz. O'wi miespif e muv, 1250 ot puv e cef gohasi, epf vji nutv onqusvepv vjoph ot O'wi velip edvoup.
Nz opwitvoph nipvus ataemmz tezt "im úmvonu fasu rai ti mu raifi uvsu", ep ofoun vjev ot neopmz ecuav vji 20/80 sami, fup'v vsz vuu jesf vu traiibi vji metv fummes, O giim nz situasdit sohjv pux esi civvis tqipv op gopotjoph vjot denqeohp ximm, duptotvipvmz fimowisoph vji qsufadvt, epf qmeppoph vji piyv denqeohp vjusuahjmz.

Ifov: Jemg ep juas egvis qutvoph vji "gopem juast!" aqfevi, optvief ug epz pix qmifhi, O huv e 10€ qmifhi depdimmevoup.
Nz gsoipft tahhitvif vjev nezci, cz vimmoph iwiszupi ug vji metv juast, O'n emtu jimqoph optidasi cedlist vu neli vji fidotoup ug cedloph ugg.
Nij. Fup'v nopf vji tnemm tvagg. Qiuqmi wuvif xovj vjios nupiz epf zua'si fuoph tunivjoph zua muwi. Vjev't emm vjev nevvist. Vji sitv ot tvsevihz
 
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