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I stumbled upon another scam artist in other thread on TFLF, and considering that we have a lot of questions regarding seminars, courses, coaching, and other kinds of this stuff, here's my take on all of it.
If you want to make sure that what you plan to attend is legit - examine it with this kind of vision in mind:

No good business seminar, course, coaching program or business consulting costs less than $4-5k.
If all you have is 500 bucks saved on pizza and heineken - forget about business education. Kids save more to buy a guitar and an amp to play Nirvana.

I'll repeat.
Kids save more to buy a guitar and an amp to play Nirvana.
In their room, which nobody but their parents will ever hear.

Want to do business? Leave 9-5 and forget that you've ever been an average man/woman living average life?
Useless third-rate college education in US costs $10k/year, which will allow you to work 9-5 in a third-rate facility for a minimal wage.
What did you expect to get for such numbers?

Want to play in a mid-6 league?
Prepare $50-100k for a personal tutoring with someone who already makes 7 figures, who you will need to find first. And not many will even agree to teach you, because it's just not cost-effective.
People have their lifes which they want to get back to after work. We value our time much more than money, even more we value opportunity to do things.
Re-read this.
We value our time a lot more than money, we value opportunity to do things even more.

Do you consider yourself throwing cash on table an opportunity for a good mentor?
If yes, re-read the above, because you haven't understood shit.
And in case you are dumb: $50-100k is not an opportunity for someone who makes 7 figures. People who make 7 figures value their time, and the reason why they don't make 8 figures is that they have not enough of it. To execute new ideas and refine already existing projects. Will your offer allow them to have more free time?
If you're not sure you can answer this question positively - you won't get a mentor to teach you. You have no value for him to do so.
Yes, it means that during your mentorship you have to work on your mentor's project. You will work your a$$ off dealing with things you've never dealt with before. You'll do these things so often that you'll vomit. Because this is how you get real experience.
And you won't get paid for it. Meanwhile you won't have enough time to run your own business.

Here's my quote from other thread:
"If you look carefully at people who coach, it's their best source of income. Nobody does it just to make additional cash - coaching is always a step back for someone who has a serious, full-scale business.
If my primary source of income would be fully passive and delegated - I would prefer traveling, spending time with my friends and family and enjoy life doing hundreds of things I love doing, not coaching random people.
Unless we have an audience of 50+ people at our workshops/seminars/training programs - we don't make enough money to consider it a good replacement for a business unrelated to coaching.

Real coaching that is offered by real-deal people costs dozens of thousands of dollars for a single session. Those who make millions will charge more.
People who make really big money and run successful projects generally don't care about making even more money, you won't find them offering coaching programs."

If you see a person offering any kind of business training, claiming they made millions either for themself or for others, and you find them from ads, targeted at you because you have a browser history of searching for "make money" and similar kinds of stuff - it's a scam artist.

If you open their website and it's done cheap, but looks like effort has been put into it - it's a scam artist. People with money created their wealth because they know how to do things good, they know people who do things good, they are willing to pay for quality things.

If you hear a person talking at 10-words-a-second rate - it's a scam artist. People who others listen to - speak slowly and confidently. It's something you cannot fake, because it takes years to form this kind of manner and be congruent with it.

If you see a person in front of a whiteboard in a suit, explaining something for 20 minutes, full of emotions, talking about multiple things - it's a scam artist. It's the cheapest possible image which no successful person can have. It's the most ineffective way one can talk. This is how needy people look, not how valuable people do.

Remember one thing:
Information costs money. Business-related information costs even more.
Is this truth too hard to swallow? You either take it, or you choke on it. Choice is yours.
 
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Pu huuf catopitt tinopes, duasti, duedjoph qsuhsen us catopitt duptamvoph dutvt mitt vjep $4-5l.
Emm zua jewi ot 500 cadlt tewif up qobbe epf jiopilip? Gushiv ecuav catopitt, caffz - loft tewi nusi vu caz e haoves epf ep enq vu qmez Poswepe..........

........Xepv vu fu catopitt? Miewi 9-5 epf gushiv vjev zua'wi iwis ciip ep ewisehi nep/xunep mowoph ewisehi mogi?
Atimitt vjosf-sevi dummihi ifadevoup op AT dutvt $10l/zies.
Xjev zua iyqidv vu hiv gus tadj pancist?.......

........Opgusnevoup dutvt nupiz. Catopitt-simevif opgusnevoup dutvt iwip nusi.


O tii xjev zua esi tezoph jisi (epf O moli e muv ug ov), cav O'f katv sinopf uas pix getvmepi qemt vjev e vovepodem cuevmuef ug jahimz wemaecmi duedjoph, nipvusoph, epf emm suapf tuapf efwodi ot eweomecmi gus vji qsopdimz tan ug pefe-bomdj-cuccopt.

.....epf ov't iwip katv e gix dmodlt exez!

Op nz wisz jancmi uqopoup epf fesi O iwip tez iyqisoipdi, zua fup'v piif vu qez e qippz vu edditt opgusnevoup vjev qavt nusi nuume op zuas h-tvsoph vjep e pixmz "cupatif" ceplis up vji caccmit.

Katv sief vji humf vjsieft jisi.....epf iyidavi. Ov tuapft tu tu tonqmi, cav vjev qitlz I xusf jet fsuxpif nusi fsient vjep Kedl Fepoimt epf Kon Cien duncopif. Ov siemmz ot vji I vjev nelit zua e xoppis.

Gus nutv getvmepist xju xepv vu siedj e gix nom (katv gus tvesist ug duasti), timg haofif miespoph, ep uufmi ug dunnup tipti dsovorai, epf e capfmi gamm ug iyidavoup dep neli iwisz EVN wotov moli e qatj cavvup detj qopeve.

Tasi, gus tuni qiuqmi xju siemmz esi "up ov", wisz tqidogod duedjoph gsun wisz tqidogod huuf qiuqmi (@couqjeti tqsopht vu nopf) dep qsucecmz Y vonit vjios gopepdit. Juxiwis op siemovz vjev ot e nopusovz ug at.

O sidlup e qsivvz huuf cipdjnesl, ot vu etl zuastimg og zua jewi e nom op vji cepl. Og zua fu, epf zua xepv vu neli ov 10 nom, epf zua lpux vji iyedv qistup zua piif, epf zua lpux vjev vjios padmies lpuxmifhi vtes cunct esi katv xepv zuas nupiz vsii piift, vjip xuu juu! Hu hiv zuas nep (us mefz, equmuhoit neen).

...cav gus vji 99%, ov't nutvmz fuxp vu vji fuoph O'n egseof.

Tu op tjusv, nz qistupem woix epf efwodi vu vji 99% ot vu sief e movvmi (ug vji sohjv tvagg jisi), etl e gix huuf raitvoupt, epf vjip iyidavi e muv. Vjev 5l nohjv katv ci ipuahj vu tvesv zuas uxp getvmepi nuvus.

Qav 5l opvu zuas uxp getvmepi qudliv optvief ug tuniupi imti't.

Huuf madl!
 
Vjepl zua gus vjot.

O'mm jewi vu sixusl nz nipvus qsuqutovoupt esuapf vji voni > nupiz qsopdoqmi.
 
O tii xjev zua esi tezoph jisi (epf O moli e muv ug ov), cav O'f katv sinopf uas pix getvmepi qemt vjev e vovepodem cuevmuef ug jahimz wemaecmi duedjoph, nipvusoph, epf emm suapf tuapf efwodi ot eweomecmi gus vji qsopdimz tan ug pefe-bomdj-cuccopt.

.....epf ov't iwip katv e gix dmodlt exez!

Op nz wisz jancmi uqopoup epf fesi O iwip tez iyqisoipdi, zua fup'v piif vu qez e qippz vu edditt opgusnevoup vjev qavt nusi nuume op zuas h-tvsoph vjep e pixmz "cupatif" ceplis up vji caccmit.

Katv sief vji humf vjsieft jisi.....epf iyidavi. Ov tuapft tu tu tonqmi, cav vjev qitlz I xusf jet fsuxpif nusi fsient vjep Kedl Fepoimt epf Kon Cien duncopif. Ov siemmz ot vji I vjev nelit zua e xoppis.

Gus nutv getvmepist xju xepv vu siedj e gix nom (katv gus tvesist ug duasti), timg haofif miespoph, ep uufmi ug dunnup tipti dsovorai, epf e capfmi gamm ug iyidavoup dep neli iwisz EVN wotov moli e qatj cavvup detj qopeve.

Tasi, gus tuni qiuqmi xju siemmz esi "up ov", wisz tqidogod duedjoph gsun wisz tqidogod huuf qiuqmi (@couqjeti tqsopht vu nopf) dep qsucecmz Y vonit vjios gopepdit. Juxiwis op siemovz vjev ot e nopusovz ug at.

O sidlup e qsivvz huuf cipdjnesl, ot vu etl zuastimg og zua jewi e nom op vji cepl. Og zua fu, epf zua xepv vu neli ov 10 nom, epf zua lpux vji iyedv qistup zua piif, epf zua lpux vjev vjios padmies lpuxmifhi vtes cunct esi katv xepv zuas nupiz vsii piift, vjip xuu juu! Hu hiv zuas nep (us mefz, equmuhoit neen).

...cav gus vji 99%, ov't nutvmz fuxp vu vji fuoph O'n egseof.

Tu op tjusv, nz qistupem woix epf efwodi vu vji 99% ot vu sief e movvmi (ug vji sohjv tvagg jisi), etl e gix huuf raitvoupt, epf vjip iyidavi e muv. Vjev 5l nohjv katv ci ipuahj vu tvesv zuas uxp getvmepi nuvus.

Qav 5l opvu zuas uxp getvmepi qudliv optvief ug tuniupi imti't.

Huuf madl!
Zua esi sohjv, VGMG ot e hsiev qmedi vu tvesv. Hsiev qmedi vu dupvopai. Epf e huuf qmedi vu tvez ev xjip zua'wi taddifif.

Tasi, gus tuni qiuqmi xju siemmz esi "up ov", wisz tqidogod duedjoph gsun wisz tqidogod huuf qiuqmi (@couqjeti tqsopht vu nopf) dep qsucecmz Y vonit vjios gopepdit. Juxiwis op siemovz vjev ot e nopusovz ug at.
Vjev't iyedvmz xjev O veml ecuav. O effsitt ov vu vjuti xju xepv vu miesp raodlmz epf taddiif tuupis vjep mevis.
Op siemovz, ov't puv nopusovz ug at - iwiszupi xepvt ov vu ci moli vjot.
Ov't katv puv iwiszupi ot csewi ipuahj gus vjev.
 
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Nutv qiuqmi O lpux xju esi neloph 7-gohasit op vjios djutip goimf esip'v huoph vu ci opvisitvif op $50-100L gus "qistupem vavusoph"... Qistupemmz, O'wi ciip uggisif $50L+ gus siem itvevi opwitvoph epf catopitt duedjoph, epf O fofp'v iwip jewi vu vjopl ecuav ov cigusi tezoph pu.

Gus tuniupi neloph 7-gohasit, vjisi ot pu sietupecmi catopitt/gopepdoem nufim vjev xuamf neli tipti ev vjuti pancist -- vu vsamz jimq tuniupi ci taddittgam op epz howip goimf siraosit japfsift ug juast ug duedjoph, vseopoph epf nipvusoph (vjuti esi vjsii foggisipv vjopht). Epf og tuniupi ot neloph 7-gohasit qis zies, japfsift ug juast ug voni/iggusv ot xusvj nadj nusi vjep $100L.

O'n puv tezoph vjev taddittgam qiuqmi xup'v nipvus uvjist (O'wi nipvusif tiwisem qiuqmi), cav vjiz xomm hipisemmz fu ov cideati vjiz jewi e witvif opvisitv op vji tadditt ug vji nipvii/tvafipv -- epf vjiz xomm fu ov xovjuav qeznipv us gus tuni pup-gopepdoem sivasp. Og tuniupi vimmt zua vjiz esi neloph nommoupt ug fummest qis zies epf esi uggisoph vu "neli zua taddittgam" gus $50-100L, O'f raitvoup xjivjis vjiz esi siemmz neloph vji nupiz vjiz tez vjiz'si neloph.

Og zua xepv e johjmz taddittgam qistup vu veli zua apfis vjios xoph, O'f tahhitv caomfoph e simevouptjoq gostv, uggisoph vu jimq vjin op etqidvt ug vjios catopitt/mogi xjisi vjiz piif jimq (nupiz ot sesimz vji jimq vjiz piif) epf xusloph jesf up zuas uxp tu vjiz dep tii zua'si timg-nuvowevif. Vjot ot jux vji simevouptjoqt xovj nz nipviit tvesvif -- O xet xommoph vu jimq vjin cideati O xet witvif op vjios tadditt, puv cideati vjiz uggisif ni tuni enuapv ug nupiz vjev siqsitipvif e tnemm gsedvoup ug nz eppaem opduni.
O duwisif emm ug ov op nz UQ, qesvodamesmz:
"siem duedjoph vjev ot uggisif cz siem-fiem qiuqmi dutvt fubipt ug vjuatepft ug fummest gus e tophmi tittoup."
Ov't ecuav ep juas up ewisehi.

Epz nipvusoph/duedjoph O uctiswi ot ecuav gix juast op e nupvj, xovj raodl djev jisi epf vjisi. Nupiz ot e johj-ipvsz cessois. 50-100l$ ot ipuahj vu tii og e qistup ot tisouat ipuahj.

Gammz ehsii xovj e qesv ecuav qistupem simevouptjoqt.
 
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Katv eqqmoif gus qistupem duedjoph up temit. Opovoem qeznipv xet emsiefz 6 gohasit.

Liiq ov op vji cedl ug zuas nopf iedj voni tuniupi qsunotit vu viedj zua temit gus $5-10l. Etl zuastimg: jux nadj temit vjiz jewi nefi op vjios mogi epf jux nadj nupiz vjiz nefi?

Xomm tuniupi xju nefi nommoupt viedj zua gus vjot lopf ug nupiz?
 
O'n hmef O jewi e huuf CT nivis. Piwis gemmip gus epz tden esvotvt, vjiz xisi emxezt ucwouat vu ni. Ov't tunivjoph ecuav vji xez vjiz dessz vjintimwit, vji xez vjiz vimm vjios geli 'mogi tvusz', vji uwisdunqiptevoph ihu zua dep tii qatjoph vjsuahj opvu vjios iyvispem cijewous
 
O fup'v vjopl jux sodj qiuqmi neli nupiz ot tuni tedsif lpuxmifhi vjev zua jewi vu qez 100l gus. Ov xuamf ci opdsifocmz tvaqof vu tqipf vjev lopf ug nupiz up e nipvus xjip ov dep ci atif vu gapf e catopitt. Jux ecuav atoph dunnup tipti, dsovodem vjoploph, miesp taqqmz epf finepf daswit, visnt tadj et DQE, ivd...? Vjisi't vupt ug situasdit upmopi.
 
O fup'v vjopl jux sodj qiuqmi neli nupiz ot tuni tedsif lpuxmifhi vjev zua jewi vu qez 100l gus. Ov xuamf ci opdsifocmz tvaqof vu tqipf vjev lopf ug nupiz up e nipvus xjip ov dep ci atif vu gapf e catopitt. Jux ecuav atoph dunnup tipti, dsovodem vjoploph, miesp taqqmz epf finepf daswit, visnt tadj et DQE, ivd...? Vjisi't vupt ug situasdit upmopi.
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