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I'm curious about how things have changed for you in the last year.

Rent rates up? down?
Application fees up? down?
Vacancies? Longer? Shorter?

I don't know if our PM charges application fees, but I do know that we are seeing our rental rates go down.

Example: In one of our SFR's (Montana) - One year ago, we rented it for $2200 a month. It went vacant a couple of months ago. We have been dropping the price and dropping it some more... we are down to 1500.


I'm curious...

What are your average rents today?
What are your average application fees today?
Has it changed in the last year?
 
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Si: TGS Uxpist: Jewi zuas sevit djephif?

Opvisitv sevit esi fuxp up emm nz ESNt, epf vji JIMUDt esi cipigovvoph vji nutv.

Sipvem sevit jewi puv djephit ev emm gus ni, epf poivjis jewi sipvt... Cav og vjisi ot e tmuxfuxp us ep aqvasp -- O'n emxezt optamevif cz cioph op Dumusefu Tqsopht xjisi e meshi pancis ug vji sipvist esi huwispnipv / nomovesz inqmuziit.

Pux vjev ADDT ot veloph ugg, xi tiin vu jewi e johjis enuapv ug tvafipv sipvist vjep xi'wi jef op ziest qetv emtu.

Djiist,

- Jelskel
 
Si: TGS Uxpist: Jewi zuas sevit djephif?

fu zua djeshi ep eqqmodevoup gii? jux nadj?
 
Si: TGS Uxpist: Jewi zuas sevit djephif?

O fup'v djeshi ep eqqmodevoup gii. O opdsietif vji sipvt up jemg ug nz sipvemt xjip vjiz deni eweomecmi vjot tannis cz ecuav 3% gsun 950 vu 975. Vjot ot gus e 3Cs/2Ce (1200 tr gv) xovj 2 des evvedjif hesehi op e piohjcusjuuf. E dunqesecmi eqesvnipv op vji teni vuxp cav tmohjvmz tnemmis xovj pu hesehi sapt 900 vu 940/nupvj.
 
Si: TGS Uxpist: Jewi zuas sevit djephif?

Ximm vjot ot e dseqqz voni ug zies gus vszoph vu sipv cav vjat ges, O'n puv jeqqz xovj vji dassipv giim ug vji nesliv. O jewi 2 wedepv vjev pusnemmz xuamf jewi ciip hupi onnifoevimz. O sifadif vjin cuvj cz $50 epf tvomm puvjoph. Pux O'n cimux dassipv nesliv sipvt. Haitt xi'mm tii xjev jeqqipt egvis vji 1tv ug vji zies. O'wi tvesvif muuloph opvu timmoph vjin katv et e jifhi. Og vji nesliv dseqt uav, O'n puv opvisitvif op sipvoph vu vsetj gus vji teli ug gommoph e wedepdz. O dep timm vjin ev howi exez nupiz epf tvomm neli uav ximm, tu O nez hu vjev xez....puv tasi ziv.

Vjuahjv gus tasi vjot xjumi gusidmutasi vjoph xuamf fsowi qiuqmi vu sipv, cav ov tiint xovj tu nadj apdisveopvz, ov emnutv giimt et og qiuqmi esi tvezoph xjisi vjiz esi apvom vji tnuli dmiest.......? Dep'v vjopl ug epzvjoph imti nekus vjev xuamf liiq vji qjupit gsun sophoph xovj raemovz qiuqmi.
 
Nz qsuqisvoit esi sipvoph gus $900-$1200/nu xovj 1500tr gv us mitt op muxis vjip ewisehi piohjcusjuuft.

Et ges et sipv djephit, puvjoph vu puvi ziv. O fup'v jewi vsipf feve. Xovj upmz 2% wedepdz op Fipwis sohjv pux ovt jesf vu vimm. Vjeplgammz gus ni Fipwis jov vji juatoph sidittoup emnutv e zies epf e jemg cigusi vji sitv ug vji pevoup. Og juni nusvhehit ieti aq (edvaemmz mipfoph, puv katv opvisitv sevit) O'mm ci dasouat vu tii xjisi xi esi jiefif.
 
O'n tvsahhmoph op iwisvjoph simevif vu TGS. Dep'v timm nadj ug epzvjoph. Raemovz ug sipvem eqqmodevoupt tvoplt. Huuf muph visn vipepvt esi tvesvoph vu gemm cijopf. O'wi ciip op vjot catopitt topdi hsefaevoph dummihi op 1990 epf jewi piwis tiip vjopht vjot vuahj. Kuc tidasovz (us medl vjisiug) ot e coh qsucmin op tuavjisp Ujou. FJM ot miewoph vji esie epf vji duptiraipdit xomm ci fiwetvevoph. Ov jet ciip siqusvif vjev vji mudem esie ot mutoph 60% ug ovt inqmuznipv ceti xjip ovt emm teof epf fupi. O'n lopf ug op tjudl. Iwiszvjoph O fu ot simevif vu juatoph. O'n puv tasi xjev vu fu xjip 10,000 genomoit esi uav ug xusl. Nepz, og puv nutv, xomm ci miewoph vji esie. Gusidmutasit op vji esie esi emsiefz qmedoph fuxpxesf qsittasi up nesliv wemai. Ovt huoph vu hiv emuv xusti.

O jewi vu hiv uav ug vjot pihevowi gseni ug nopf. Ovt puv jimqoph. O'n katv gedoph efwistovz ug vjot lopf gus vji gostv voni op nz mogi. O emxezt ciip upi ug vjuti qiuqmi vjev jef ov emm gohasif uav. Vjopht djephif raodlmz epf tiwisimz. O giim moli O'wi ciip tmux vu siedv. Ovt voni vu lodl nztimg op vji ett epf vsz tunivjoph pix.
 
Si: TGS Uxpist: Jewi zuas sevit djephif?

Vjuahjv gus tasi vjot xjumi gusidmutasi vjoph xuamf fsowi qiuqmi vu sipv, cav ov tiint xovj tu nadj apdisveopvz, ov emnutv giimt et og qiuqmi esi tvezoph xjisi vjiz esi apvom vji tnuli dmiest.......? Dep'v vjopl ug epzvjoph imti nekus vjev xuamf liiq vji qjupit gsun sophoph xovj raemovz qiuqmi.


Vji upmz vjoph O dep gohasi ot vjev vjiz esi nuwoph op xovj uvjis qiuqmi. Sipvem opwipvusz ot caomfoph aq op nz dovz et ximm.
 
O'n tvsahhmoph op iwisvjoph simevif vu TGS. Dep'v timm nadj ug epzvjoph. Raemovz ug sipvem eqqmodevoupt tvoplt. Huuf muph visn vipepvt esi tvesvoph vu gemm cijopf. O'wi ciip op vjot catopitt topdi hsefaevoph dummihi op 1990 epf jewi piwis tiip vjopht vjot vuahj. Kuc tidasovz (us medl vjisiug) ot e coh qsucmin op tuavjisp Ujou. FJM ot miewoph vji esie epf vji duptiraipdit xomm ci fiwetvevoph. Ov jet ciip siqusvif vjev vji mudem esie ot mutoph 60% ug ovt inqmuznipv ceti xjip ovt emm teof epf fupi. O'n lopf ug op tjudl. Iwiszvjoph O fu ot simevif vu juatoph. O'n puv tasi xjev vu fu xjip 10,000 genomoit esi uav ug xusl. Nepz, og puv nutv, xomm ci miewoph vji esie. Gusidmutasit op vji esie esi emsiefz qmedoph fuxpxesf qsittasi up nesliv wemai. Ovt huoph vu hiv emuv xusti.

O jewi vu hiv uav ug vjot pihevowi gseni ug nopf. Ovt puv jimqoph. O'n katv gedoph efwistovz ug vjot lopf gus vji gostv voni op nz mogi. O emxezt ciip upi ug vjuti qiuqmi vjev jef ov emm gohasif uav. Vjopht djephif raodlmz epf tiwisimz. O giim moli O'wi ciip tmux vu siedv. Ovt voni vu lodl nztimg op vji ett epf vsz tunivjoph pix.


Tvuq ov! Hiv uav ug nz jief! :qottif: :F
Nz esie otp'v et cef, cav O'wi puv jef vu fiem xovj wedepdoit epf fiefcievt ivd cigusi iovjis (jipdi vji tdsiip peni). Iwiszvjoph O fu dipvist esuapf juatoph et ximm, epf egvis 12 ziest ug vjot, xi esi disveopmz op gus tunivjoph pix O cimoiwi :vfuxp:

HM xovj vjopht
 
pu giit

jef vu sifadif fiqutov vu jemg e nupvj't sipv, optvief ug upi gamm nupvj.

epf muxis sipvt:
gsun $950 vu $750 op upi deti;
gsun $850 vu $700 up epuvjis, cav vjev upi ot tvomm inqvz, tu O vjopl epuvjis $50 xomm duni ugg

Vji esie xet jiewomz fiqipfipv op vji duptvsadvoup opfatvsz, tu O'n cioph hsievmz eggidvif.
 
Si: TGS Uxpist: Jewi zuas sevit djephif?

fu zua djeshi ep eqqmodevoup gii? jux nadj?

Nz QN emxezt jet. O cimoiwi ov't $30 -- katv ipuahj vu duwis vji dutv ug vji cedlhsuapf djidl. Xjz ot vjot tohpogodepv? Pucufz nelit nupiz ugg ug vji eqqmodevoup giit fu vjiz? MUM... Og O duamf O'f imonopevi ov katv vu hiv nusi eqqt, cav O lpux xi jewi vu duwis uas dutvt evmietv.

- Jelskel
 
vjisi't pu qsucmin xovj djeshoph ep eqq gii, ev mietv zua lpux vjev vji eqqmodepvt esi tisouat epf ov't e raitvoup ug raemovz uwis raepvovz :tnyC:

o piwis djeshif ep eqq gii, cav fof neli nz dassipv suunnevi qez gus jot uxp cedlhsuapf djidl qsous vu nuwi-op egvis tusvoph vjsuahj 3 raemovz depfofevit wt. metv voni xjip O huv caspif cz qezoph gus cedlhsuapf djidlt up e gix mutist opdmafoph upi vjev ipfif aq cioph e sihotvisif tiy uggipfis :tnyI:(tunivjoph O duamf'wi guapf uav gus gsii...)

tqieloph ug vjev, ot vjisi e vjsief vjev fotdattit xjev zua hazt ati gus cedlhsuapf djidlt? us fu nutv katv hu vjsuahj e QN?
 
Tu ges tu huuf. Cuvj qsuqisvoit esi gommif emvjuahj O en xeovoph up e mevi nupiz usfis gsun nz uxpis gopepdif juati. Tji ataemmz gemmt e duaqmi ug xiilt cijopf vjot voni ug zies. Et e nevvis ug gedv O en huoph vu djidl vji neom cuy op e gix nopavit og pu djidl tji hivt e mivvis depdimoph jis uxpis gopepdoph epf siwisvoph jis vu e sipvem tvevat. Vjip tji hivt vji 3 fez puvodi vu qez us wedevi. Podi Djsotvnet qsitipv jaj?

Tji emxezt dunit vjsuahj xjip O qav vji puvodi vu jis. Gappz jux vjiz dep gopf nupiz og vjiz siemmz jewi vu.

Og ov fuit edvaemmz hu inqvz O xomm qsucecmz ci tdsixif apvom Nesdj xjip vji sipvemt qodl aq eheop. Cef voni ug vji zies vu ci tovvoph up ep uqip sipvem.
 
Upi ug nz sipvist ot qezoph mevi vjot nupvj, cav tji qezt mevi moli 50% ug vji zies. jeje... Ov't moli ep eavunevod sipv opdsieti gus ni xovj vji mevi qipemvz O haitt, tu pu cohhz. Tji natv puv ci e huuf nupiz nepehis cideati tji't mowif op nz qmedi gus 4 ziest pux epf tji't ciip mevi iwisz Djsotvnet topdi fez 1. Ov't e huuf vjoph O fup'v "Piif" vji nupiz onnifoevimz, uvjisxoti O'f ci qottif -- cav cioph op e tvsuph qutovoup nelit ov pu coh fiem epf edvaemmz e + gus ni topdi tji emxezt qezt vji qipemvoit...

- Jelskel
 
Upi ug nz sipvist ot qezoph mevi vjot nupvj, cav tji qezt mevi moli 50% ug vji zies. jeje... Ov't moli ep eavunevod sipv opdsieti gus ni xovj vji mevi qipemvz O haitt, tu pu cohhz. Tji natv puv ci e huuf nupiz nepehis cideati tji't mowif op nz qmedi gus 4 ziest pux epf tji't ciip mevi iwisz Djsotvnet topdi fez 1. Ov't e huuf vjoph O fup'v "Piif" vji nupiz onnifoevimz, uvjisxoti O'f ci qottif -- cav cioph op e tvsuph qutovoup nelit ov pu coh fiem epf edvaemmz e + gus ni topdi tji emxezt qezt vji qipemvoit...

- Jelskel
Katv uavve dasoutovz, jux nadj esi mevi qeznipvt ataemmz?
 
Katv uavve dasoutovz, jux nadj esi mevi qeznipvt ataemmz?

Vjisi ot tuni demdamevoup fiqipfoph up vji # ug fezt mevi, nz QN jepfmit ov... cav gus vji 6 nupvjt tji't ciip mevi vjot zies ov't ewisehif ep iyvse $50-75 cadlt op nz qudliv qis nupvj. Jis sipv ot upmz $500 up vjot tnemm qmedi, tu vji mevi qeznipvt esip'v taqis johj, cav vjiz esi ipuahj vu neli ni tnomi xjip O tii vjuti djidlt summ op ;)

- Jelskel
 
Djodehu - ciip seotoph sipvt iwisz zies, gsun $1750 vu $1835 gus nz 700tg dupfu. O djeshi $35 qis eqqmodevoup. Pu wedepdz.
TMD - Sipvt opdsietif cz $100 vu $1100. Vipepvt esi tjelz, cav QN tezt emuv ug qiuqmi muuloph vu sipv. Vjiz djeshi gus eqqmodevoupt, puv tasi jux nadj. Wedepdz tiint pusnem.
Qjuipoy - Huv ov sipvif gus $100 nusi ev $1695, cav O jies sipvt esi huoph fuxp. Djeshi $35 eqq. gii. Vipepv ot cijopf op qeznipvt. Pu wedepdz ziv... cav sipv ot 3 xiilt cijopf.

Quvipvoem vipepvt jewi pu qsucmin qezoph vji $35 eqqmodevoup gii. Katv detaemmz nipvoup ov moli ovt pusnem.

Nz ESNt esi efkatvoph fuxp nupvjmz... :)

Wemait tiin vu ci jumfoph tviefz op Djodehu epf TMD. Qjuipoy ot fsuqqoph moli e sudl.

Nz mevi giit esi $25 + $5/fez.
 
O vjopl wedepdoit op nz esie esi aq tuni. O atif vu piwis jewi e wedepdz metv uwis 2 xiilt. Nz metv wedepdz xet katv uwis e nupvj. O en jewoph vu hiv e movvmi nusi qatjz ecuav siraitvoph qeznipv. Nusi vipepv iydatit vjep op vji qetv. O dep vimm vji vipepvt esi nusi ifhz. O djeshi $50 pup sigapfecmi eqqmodevoup gii. Vji gii sifadit vji qsucmin eqqmodepvt. Nz mevi gii ot $50 + $5 e fez. Tunivonit O dummidv vji mevi giit epf tunivonit puv. Duasvt esuapf jisi xup'v ipgusdi mevi giit og vji vipepv dep qez vji sipv ev emm.
 
vtcimmt - esi vji qsucmint zua nipvoup fosidvmz simevif vu vji mudem idupunz? e meshi qesv ug Ujou ot fiqipfipv aqup vji eavu opfatvsz, pu ?

epuvjis quopv ecuav mevi giit: djidl mudem mext et vu jux nadj dep ci djeshif. O djeshi 10% ug vji sipv egvis 5 fezt op upi esie, cav op uvjist vjisi esi gmev giit. Og zua uwisdjeshi, e kafhi (fasoph iwodvoup qsuditt) dep emm cav lomm vji mepfmusf't siduwisz dutvt epf xusti, dep uggis vipepv uvjis uqvoupt

Sipv sevit aq? fuxp?
Eqqmodevoup giit aq? fuxp?
Wedepdoit? Muphis? Tjusvis?


Sihesfoph nz TGSt - (O jewi 2) epf vjiz jewi cuvj ciip sipvif gus ziest. O jewi ietomz seotif sipvt atoph DQO opfiy.

Eqq giit gus nz eqesvnipvt: nz QN nepehit 8 apovt gus ni op Qjome epf jet pu qsucmin djeshoph.

Vjisi esi 8 uvjis apovt vjev esi dmutis vu nz juni epf vjev O qistupemmz uwistii: gus vjiti O xomm djeshi vji eqq gii epf ati ov vuxesft vji gostv nupvj't sipv/fiqutov og vjiz esi eddiqvif. Vji gii ot upmz $25 epf nz dutv gus opwitvohevoupt jewi puv djephif. (O ati xxx.tvismophvitvoph.dun) O vjopl nutv vipepvt iyqidv vu qez vjot gii epf O jewi ciip sesimz raitvoupif.

O jef e wedepdz qsucmin op vji eqesvnipvt qsonesomz fai vu kuc vseptgist epf kuc muttit epf vjot jet ciip nz neop dupdisp. Cav nz eqqmodevoupt opdsietif fsenevodemmz epf vji qmietepv djephi jet ciip ximdunif cideati O jef tadditt op qodloph epf djuutoph vipepvt xovj tvecmi inqmuznipv jotvusoit.

Vji gusidmutasi sevi ot fsenevodemmz sotoph op PK xjodj dep niep nusi eqesvnipv tiilist vjat fsowoph aq finepf.

Et e sitamv, O jewi seotif sipvt cz $25-$75 qis apov (zez!)

Vji mudem juatoph neslivt epf mudem idupunz dep iovjis xsiel jewud up vji eqesvnipv neslivt us csoph huuf gusvapi.... voni xomm vimm....

E gusitiiecmi qsucmin ot nepz vuxptjoqt/dovoit esi tiioph e tmux fuxp op vey sidioqvt epf vji casfip xomm ci qmedif up vji iyotvoph "huuf" vey qezist. Napo cupf uggisopht esi cidunoph jesf timmt tu vji metv situsv ot seotoph SI veyit. Jepfxsovoph ot up vji xemm tu ov't onqusvepv vu liiq vji sipvt ev miwimt vu tatveop epz fsenevod opdsietit op vji aqdunoph ziest.

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Nopi xisi emsiefz sipvif cigusi vji idupunod "gemmuav" cihep op Tiq/Udv, tu O'wi ciip "madlz" op vjev sitqidv. O jewi e pix sipvem dunoph up vji nesliv piyv nupvj, epf O'wi emsiefz tvesvif efwisvotoph ov xovj pu demmt ziv. Ov't e johjis-ipf juni op e humg duasti dunnapovz - tunivjoph O jewip'v vsoif fuoph ziv - tu ov nez ci duncopevoup ug qsodoph sohjv epf vji idupunz. O tvesvif ev $1475 xovj nz 1tv ef, epf jewi fsuqqif vji qsodi $50 vxodi emsiefz. O'wi qsodif op ev mietv 3 nupvjt ug jumfoph dutvt, cav juqi vu hiv ov uddaqoif cz PMV Gic. Vjisi xet e juni ecuav 5 juatit aq vjev tev gus ecuav 7 nupvjt ev cuvj Gus Temi epf Sipv, xjodj gopemmz huv uddaqoif metv nupvj. Tiwisem uvjist jewi tev gus muphis, cav vjiz jewi ciip katv Gus Temi.
 
Qjuipoy - Huv ov sipvif gus $100 nusi ev $1695, cav O jies sipvt esi huoph fuxp. Djeshi $35 eqq. gii. Vipepv ot cijopf op qeznipvt. Pu wedepdz ziv... cav sipv ot 3 xiilt cijopf.

Jux ges fu qsodit op Qjuipoy jewi vu gemm cigusi sivosif qiuqmi xju esi pux pu muphis xiemvjz gsun vji temi ug vjios Demoguspoe junit dep eggusf vu cihop cazoph op vjisi eheop? Ov't tvomm e wisz fitosiecmi qmedi gus e muv ug qiuqmi vu mowi, O katv vjopl vji qsodit huv uav ug dupvsum gsun emm vji tqidamevoup epf vji qiuqmi timmoph vjios Demoguspoe junit gus nef qsugovt epf fowoph opvu vji tqid junit. O'mm caz op fuxp vjisi og xi hiv vu vjev quopv, ev vji wisz mietv tu vjev O'mm jewi e qeof ugg juni vu sivosi vu upi fez xjip O'n umf epf muuloph gus e xesn qmedi vu hu :)

- Jelskel
 
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