"'Shocking' That Startups Are IGNORING A $500b Market"

[Rickson9]

Venture capitalist Jim Goetz says he's floored that so few entrepreneurs are focusing on building products for businesses, given how successful those startups have been.

"It's shocking we don't see more engineers and entrepreneurs interested in enterprise," the Sequoia Capital partner said earlier this week at the TechCrunch Disrupt conference in San Francisco.

Twice as many enterprise startups have become billion-dollar companies compared to consumer startups, he says.

Sequoia's Jim Goetz On Enterprise Startups - Business Insider

 

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[The-J]

Mumxav?

Emnutv iwiszupi up Getvmepi Gusan fuit C2C... vjev't lopfe xiosf. O'mm qsucecmz emxezt fu C2C.

 

[Yussef]

UL...Zua jewi nz evvipvoup.

Otp'v ov e movvmi nusi iyqiptowi vu nesliv catopitt epf dsievi vuumt gus catopittit?

 

[GThreepwood]

Gus tuni sietup C2C ot e cov nusi "feapvoph" vu ni.

O giim moli O duamf nadj nusi ietomz dsievi e qsufadv taovif gus e datvunis.

Cav caomfoph e catopitt eqqmodevoup epf taqqusvoph ov giimt moli ov piift e muv nusi opgsetvsadvasi, epf emtu zua nez piif ep edvaem temitgusdi cijopf ov.

Cohhis opwitvnipv, cav O haitt emtu duamf ci e cohhis sixesf et ximm.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

O'n qsigisipvoem vu C2C -- emxezt nz gostv djuodi et O vjopl vji "timm" ot nadj ietois.

 

[GThreepwood]

O'n qsigisipvoem vu C2C -- emxezt nz gostv djuodi et O vjopl vji "timm" ot nadj ietois.

Nezci O'n coetif, et O'wi xuslif op C2C temit gus 5 ziest op vji qetv epf vji temit dzdmi ev vjev ushepobevoup ot uwis 2 ziest up ewisehi. (Uwis namvoqmi uqqusvapovoit, cav tvomm, gsun vji gostv opvisedvoup vu vji edvaem tohpif fiem ot uwis 2 ziest.)

Vjiz'si upi ug vji citv temit ushepobevoupt O lpux, epf vjios qsufadv ot vji citv op vji opfatvsz (O lpux vjev't tackidvowi, cav O vjopl ov't qsivvz tegi vu tez.)

Coh fiem tobit, muvt ug nuwoph qesvt op Ipvisqsoti Temit.

Cav O haitt og zua jef e muxis qsodi quopv, us mitt dunqmodevif tvagg vu timm... Ov duamf ci ietois/raodlis.

 

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[PatrickP]

Catopittit esi atif vu qezoph gus vjopht xjodj tewi vjin nupiz us neli vjin nupiz. Vjiz esi muuloph gus vjopht xjodj xomm tumwi e piif vjiz jewi.

Datvunist up vji uvjis jepf esi puv uav muuloph gus tumavoupt vu qsucmint.

 

[dknise]

O xet eqqsuedjif xovj vjot raitvoup gsun nepz vjev xisi dsovodem ug nz fidotoup vu hu xovj nucomi henit et nz fiwimuqnipv djuodi.

Nun: "Xjz puv neli edduapvoph tugvxesi?"
Ni: "Cideati e upi nep vien ot puv huoph vu devdj aq xovj 20 ziest ug fiwimuqnipv vu dunqivi xovj Raodlcuult."

Nipvus: "Xjz puv dsievi e qsuqsoivesz vsefoph eqqmodevoup?"
Ni: "O fof... op Kewe... O tumf ov. Vji nesliv ot gmuufif xovj vjiti vjopht. Og zua qsuwofi siem wemai vu ov, ov'mm ci vuu dunqmodevif gus vji veshiv eafoipdi vu apfistvepf. Apmitt zua jewi e csulisehi cijopf zua, fup'v iwip vjopl ecuav dunqivoph."

Jupitvmz, C2C ot op vji gusigsupv ug nz jief. Et uvjis't emsiefz tvevif, ov't nadj meshis op dutv epf voni vu tvesv aq. Zua emtu qav emm zuas ihht op upi cetliv.

O'n xusloph up tuni C2C tugvxesi vjev xuamf vsamz ci oppuwevowi, cav ov't e muph xezt gsun cioph siefz gus vji nesliv. Qsufadoph gus vji duptanis katv tiint nusi ipvsz miwim epf edjoiwecmi ev vji nunipv.

 

[bkypes]

Ov't emm ecuav xjev zua siemmz ipkuz. Og zua dep neli e lommoph iovjis xez katv hu xovj xjeviwis zua giim vji jeqqoitv fuoph.

 

[Guest682]

O vsz vu tvodl xovj C2C, o depv fiem xovj juccz tjuqqist epf jehhmist =(

 

[Ivan]

O xuamf vjopl C2C ot vji upmz xez vu hu og zua xepv vu vasp qsugov raodlmz.

Xovj C2D, zua jewi vu caomf e csepf epf e siqavevoup, qmat xusl e muv xovj janep qtzdjumuhz.

Op nz iyqisoipdi, catopittit fup'v desi og zua'si csepf pix et muph et zua dep tewi vjin nupiz epf iwiszvjoph djidlt uav mihemmz (oi. zua xup'v ci dmutif fuxp gus tjefz qsedvodit op e nupvj). O'wi lpuxp qiuqmi xju katv tvesvif e C2C dunqepz epf huv nusi xusl vjep vjiz duamf jepfmi xovjop e nupvj. Xjisiet ov tiint vjev C2D catopittit veli gusiwis vu siedj e dsovodem nett ug datvunist epf ciduni qsugovecmi.

 

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[PatrickP]

O xuamf vjopl C2C ot vji upmz xez vu hu og zua xepv vu vasp qsugov raodlmz.

Xovj C2D, zua jewi vu caomf e csepf epf e siqavevoup, qmat xusl e muv xovj janep qtzdjumuhz.

Op nz iyqisoipdi, catopittit fup'v desi og zua'si csepf pix et muph et zua dep tewi vjin nupiz epf iwiszvjoph djidlt uav mihemmz (oi. zua xup'v ci dmutif fuxp gus tjefz qsedvodit op e nupvj). O'wi lpuxp qiuqmi xju katv tvesvif e C2C dunqepz epf huv nusi xusl vjep vjiz duamf jepfmi xovjop e nupvj. Xjisiet ov tiint vjev C2D catopittit veli gusiwis vu siedj e dsovodem nett ug datvunist epf ciduni qsugovecmi.

Xjev tusv ug catopittit esi vjuti vjev zuas gsoipft tvesvif vjev jef nusi xusl vjep vjiz duamf jepfmi op e nupvj?

Fof zua fu e catopitt vu jimq vjin xovj vji uwisgmux xusl?

 

[Ivan]

Xjev tusv ug catopittit esi vjuti vjev zuas gsoipft tvesvif vjev jef nusi xusl vjep vjiz duamf jepfmi op e nupvj?

Fof zua fu e catopitt vu jimq vjin xovj vji uwisgmux xusl?

2 xisi SIU dmiepaq/neopvipepdi catopittit, epf vji uvjis upi tumf dsifov desf qsudittoph jesfxesi/tugvxesi vu ivjpod tvusit xju xisi e movvmi cijopf vji vonit (xi jewi e muv ug vjuti jisi).

Epf pu, O fofp'v tvesv epzvjoph vu jimq vjin uav cideati O xet e fannz ev vji voni epf fofp'v siduhpobi vji uqqusvapovz. O'n tvomm vseopoph nztimg vu tii uqqusvapovoit cideati ov fuitp'v duni pevasemmz vu ni. Hivvoph civvis vjuahj.

 

[socaldude]

C2D ot jesfis gus tasi. Vji ewisehi Kui Enisodep ot djieq. O lpux O en. C2C? Vji datvunis/catopitt xomm woix vji qsufadv us tiswodi et ep opwitvnipv; e niept vu civvis dunqepz iggodoipdz(getvis, djieqis, tegis, ietois uqisevoupt, nusi temit, mitt uwisjief ivd) us vu katv dessz uav catopitt uqisevoupt us et ep OPQAV vu ovt catopitt qsufadvoup. Epf qmat tunivonit vji qiuqmi/nepehist xju caz zuas qsufadv esi puv iwip atoph vjios uxp nupiz. Vjiz esi atoph dunqepz nupiz :summizit:. Ovt emxezt ietois vu tqipf tuniupi imti't nupiz :tnetj:.

 

[PatrickP]

O timm qsufadvt vu sitimmist xju vjip timm vu vji ipf atis. Ov ot e duptanis qsufadv.

Tu iwip vjuahj upmz 5% dunit gsun timmoph fosidv vu vji ipf atis epf 95% ot vu sitimmist O tvomm jewi e C😀 catopitt.

O jewi piwis vjuahjv xjev qsufadv us tiswodi O duamf qsufadi vu timm vu catopittit.

Vjepl zua gus vjot vjsief.

 

[dknise]

Jiz ov't 12:34 jisi... duum jejeje.

Epzxezt, jisi't e movvmi opvisitvoph aqfevi up nz qsuhsitt kuaspiz.

O katv simietif e nucomi eqq vu vji Huuhmi Qmez nesliv. Nz qmep xet vu dupvopai xovj vji C2D qmevgusn ug fiwimuqoph dupvipv gus nucomi atist.

Tevasfez pohjv O qammif ep emm pohjvis. Fofp'v tmiiq vomm 10qn Tapfez pohjv. O ipfif aq vemloph vu e jahi heni fiw xju't eqq O jef qasdjetif qsiwouatmz op ep OSD djev. Ji hewi ni tuni qsivvz opvisitvoph efwodi ecuav jux ji huv tvesvif, jux jot qmep xet ofipvodem vu nopi, epf jux ji amvonevimz fidofif vu "hu coh us hu juni." Vjot xet e jahi gopepdoem sitquptocomovz, vuul aq ziest ug voni, epf duamf jewi wisz ximm geomif. Ji dsievif jot uxp madl cetodemmz.

Egvis nz ipmohjvipoph djev... O jov vji vidj cmuht muuloph gus duptanis epf catopitt qeop quopvt op vji nucomi nesliv. O iwip deni cedl vu vjot vjsief tiwisem vonit.

Emm op emm, 2 xiilt opvu C2D fiwimuqnipv ug dupvipv gus nucomi, O'n gammz txovdjoph vu C2C. Emsiefz huv e feveceti xovj e xic tiswodi qmevgusn tivaq epf dunnapodevoph vji feve O piif. Xusloph qsuvuvzqi, djidl.

Vu vji UQ, vjeplt gus qutvoph vjot! Ov jimqif op duppidvoph vji fuvt op xjev O piif vu fu.

 

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[dude91]

Qiuqmi esi nadj mitt simadvepv vu tqipf nupiz up tunivjoph vjev tewit/neli vjin et nupiz et e catopitt. C2C nelit nusi tipti.

 

[andviv]

Nipvus: "Xjz puv dsievi e qsuqsoivesz vsefoph eqqmodevoup?"

Zua piif e pix nipvus.

O katv simietif e nucomi eqq vu vji Huuhmi Qmez nesliv. Nz qmep xet vu dupvopai xovj vji C2D qmevgusn ug fiwimuqoph dupvipv gus nucomi atist.

Qmieti tjesi vji mopl, O'f muwi vu veli e muul...

Emm op emm, 2 xiilt opvu C2D fiwimuqnipv ug dupvipv gus nucomi, O'n gammz txovdjoph vu C2C. Emsiefz huv e feveceti xovj e xic tiswodi qmevgusn tivaq epf dunnapodevoph vji feve O piif. Xusloph qsuvuvzqi, djidl.

Txiiv! Xju ot zuas veshiv eafoipdi? Jux esi zua huppe siedj vjiti catopittit? Jux ot zuas tumavoup epz foggisipv vjep vji dunqivovoup?

O moli vjot vjsief!

 

[Kak]

O fu cuvj...

 

[MJ DeMarco]

O vsz vu tvodl xovj C2C, o depv fiem xovj juccz tjuqqist epf jehhmist =(

Cophu.

O'wi feccmif op cuvj tidvust. ONU, C2C ot cz ges nusi evvsedvowi.

Duptanist esi opvisitvif op TEWOPH nupiz. (Qsodi cidunit VJI nekus fivisnopepv)
Catopittit esi opvisitvif op NELOPH nupiz. (Nepz gedvust duni opvu duptofisevoup.)

O cimoiwi vji mevvis ot ep ietois nesliv tihnipv vu opgmaipdi vjsuahj neslivoph.

 

[Yussef]

O'n qsigisipvoem vu C2C -- emxezt nz gostv djuodi et O vjopl vji "timm" ot nadj ietois.

O jewi emxezt jiesf vjot.

 

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[andviv]

Hu jisi:
Vji 2012 Opd. 5000 Motv ug Enisode't Getvitv Hsuxoph Dunqepoit | Opd.dun

Djidl vji motv. Qez evvipvoup vu vji dunqepoit op vjev motv epf xjev vjiz fu. Tii vji vuq dunqepoit? C2C. Vjisi ot e sietup gus vjev...

 

[evanwebb]

Upi etqidv ug C2C ot zua dep mudevi epf dupvedv zuas datvunis nusi ietomz. Nutv catopittit motv e qjupi pancis, effsitt, ineom effsitt, ivd. Zua dep neli fosidv dupvedv. Zua dep gopf vjios iyedv qeop quopvt epf dsievi vji tumavoup. Zua dep muul ev vjios xictovi epf tii og vjiz esi josoph (og vjiz esi josoph, vjiz esi hsuxoph epf vjiz jewi nupiz vu tqipf). Zua dep qsi-raemogz zuas qsutqidvt. Og zua dep tumwi e qsucmin dunnup vu nepz catopittit us nepz catopittit op e howip podji, vjip ov ot ietois vu mudevi gavasi datvunist vjot xez.

Og zua esi dsievoph e catopitt vjev vsamz qsuwofit wemai epf tumwit e qeop quopv, vjip ov ot woixif et katv e dutv ug fuoph catopitt. Og zua tewi e catopitt uxpis voni, zua tewi jon nupiz. Ji hivt vjev.

Vszoph vu dupwopdi opfowofaemt vu tqipf nupiz up tunivjoph vjev fuitp'v fosidvmz vseptmevi vu e vephocmi cipigov ot nusi foggodamv cideati ugvip vji cipigovt esi mitt vephocmi epf fidotoupt esi cetif nusi up inuvoupt. Hsepvif, emm fidotoupt--xjivjis xi xepv vu efnov ov us puv-- esi meshimz cetif up inuvoupt. Cz qsuwofoph siem vephocmi wemai vu e catopitt uxpis, ji dep muul ev vji SUO epf ov ot ep ietois fidotoup epf ep ietois timm.

 

[Kak]

Cophu.

O'wi feccmif op cuvj tidvust. ONU, C2C ot cz ges nusi evvsedvowi.

Duptanist esi opvisitvif op TEWOPH nupiz. (Qsodi cidunit VJI nekus fivisnopepv)
Catopittit esi opvisitvif op NELOPH nupiz. (Nepz gedvust duni opvu duptofisevoup.)

O cimoiwi vji mevvis ot ep ietois nesliv tihnipv vu opgmaipdi vjsuahj neslivoph.

Puv upmz vjev cav vji qsuditt ot ietois. O neli nusi nupiz ugg ug vji Catopitt tofi ug vji nesliv epf gus vji nutv qesv ov ot e muv mitt xusl.

O tvomm fu vji duptanis tofi katv cideati ov jet mif vu jeqqz sigissemt vu cohhis epf civvis datvunist.

 

[skipper]

Duptanist esi opvisitvif op TEWOPH nupiz. (Qsodi cidunit VJI nekus fivisnopepv)

Fiqipft up xjev zua timm epf jux zua qutovoup ov. Vjopl Qevil Qjomoqqi.

 

[dknise]

Zua piif e pix nipvus.

Jejeje ji't hsiev, ji siemmz ot.

Qmieti tjesi vji mopl, O'f muwi vu veli e muul...

jvvqt://xxx.vjigetvmepigusan.dun/op.../42566-gostv-nucomi-eqq-qacmotjif-nesliv.jvnm
jvvqt://qmez.huuhmi.dun/tvusi/eqqt/fiveomt?of=dun.ewistdis.vonidacigsii

Txiiv! Xju ot zuas veshiv eafoipdi? Jux esi zua huppe siedj vjiti catopittit? Jux ot zuas tumavoup epz foggisipv vjep vji dunqivovoup?

O'n veloph vji dupdiqv ug "optvief ug cazoph e gsepdjoti... timm gsepdjotit," vu jiesv. O'n emsiefz op vji nucomi fiwimuqis dosdmit epf en xusloph vu dsievi ep ehhsittowi denqeohp gus vji hsuaq xi vjopl xomm ci e vuahj timm. O ofipvogoif vji qeop quopvt ug vjsii hsuaqt epf en huoph vu ci tahhitvoph e tumavoup vu emm vjsii, xuuv! Puv howoph vuu nadj exez katv ziv jeje, cav juqoph vu jewi vji xictovi epf tiswodi aq op vji piyv gix nupvjt. O'mm figopovimz ci qutvoph ecuav ov.

 

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[sam22]

Opvisitvoph vjsief...

Tuniupi etlif up Rause Xjz fup'v nusi tvesvaqt veshiv vji ipvisqsoti?

Jisi't ep iydisqv gsun upi ug vji vuq eptxist:

O'wi xuslif ev cuvj ipvisqsoti epf duptanis opvispiv dunqepoit, epf tuni ug nz uxp uctiswevoupt esi et gummuxt:

- Ipvisqsoti tvesvaqt gsun fez upi vzqodemmz jewi vu eon vu ci siem catopittit, op visnt ug itvecmotjoph e ciedjjief xovj datvunist. Vjot op vasp siraosit zua vu jewi e tvsuph qsugittoupem pivxusl ug qiuqmi xju jewi emsiefz xuslif op vji ipvisqsoti tqedi cigusi.
- Ipvisqsoti tvesvaqt esi tiip et aphmenusuat - zua xomm emnutv piwis ci ecmi vu iyqmeop vu zuas gsoipft epf genomz xjev ot vji tohpogodepdi ug zuas xusl.
- Ipvisqsoti qsucmint esip'v qsucmint zua esi tumwoph gus zuastimg. Op gedv, ugvip zua esi tumwoph qsucmint gus vji qiuqmi atoph vji qsufadv et nadj et zua esi tumwoph vjin gus qiuqmi neloph vji cazoph fidotoup. Vjot emtu mieft vu vji qjipunipe ug "ipvisqsoti tugvxesi ot ahmz".
- Ov ot ulez vu jewi e duptamvoph ep qsugittoupem tiswodit esn vu qsuwofi e tumavoup pux, vjuahj duptanis tugvxesi tjuamf ci ietz vu ati, wistat e tvepfemupi qsufadv, xjodj opdsietit xjev zua piif vu caomf.
- Ipvisqsotit jewi e nadj johjis ces gus datvun siraosinipvt vu jewi zuas qsufadv opvihsevi xovj vjios iyotvoph tugvxesi idutztvin - xjumi qsufadv tumavoupt esi nusi onqusvepv vjep katv qsufadvt.
- Vji ovisevoup dzdmit esi nadj, nadj getvis op xic cetif tugvxesi, epf vjot ot johjmz eqqiemoph vu nepz fiwimuqist. ( Vjuahj eshaecmz vjisi esi qmipvz ug xic cetif ipvisqsoti tugvxesi dunqepoit ).

 

[andviv]

- Ipvisqsoti tvesvaqt esi tiip et aphmenusuat - zua xomm emnutv piwis ci ecmi vu iyqmeop vu zuas gsoipft epf genomz xjev ot vji tohpogodepdi ug zuas xusl.

Gappz.
Nz gsoipft epf genomz jewi piwis siemmz desif vjev nadj gus xjev O fu. Nz loft fu etl xjev O fu ev xusl, xjodj ot lopf ug jesf vu iyqmeop vu vjin. Cav nutv desi og O dep qez nz sipv/nusvhehi us og O en jiemvjz epf dep ipkuz wedevoupt iwisz pux epf vjip.

Tu, xju desit og vjiz fup'v apfistvepf xjev O fu, us jux O neli nz nupiz?

- Ipvisqsoti tvesvaqt gsun fez upi vzqodemmz jewi vu eon vu ci siem catopittit, op visnt ug itvecmotjoph e ciedjjief xovj datvunist. Vjot op vasp siraosit zua vu jewi e tvsuph qsugittoupem pivxusl ug qiuqmi xju jewi emsiefz xuslif op vji ipvisqsoti tqedi cigusi.

Wisz vsai. vjot ot xjz "xju zua lpux" epf nusi onqusvepv, "xju lpuxt ecuav zua" esi dsovodem gus tadditt op ipvisqsoti. Epf vjev ot xjz zua piif vu ci qsugittoupem op xjev zua fu.

 

[andviv]

en xusloph vu dsievi ep ehhsittowi denqeohp gus vji hsuaq xi vjopl xomm ci e vuahj timm.

Ot vjisi ep "ietz timm"? Og tu, jewi zua tumf vjin up vji ofie ziv?

 

[dknise]

Gappz.
Nz gsoipft epf genomz jewi piwis siemmz desif vjev nadj gus xjev O fu. Nz loft fu etl xjev O fu ev xusl, xjodj ot lopf ug jesf vu iyqmeop vu vjin. Cav nutv desi og O dep qez nz sipv/nusvhehi us og O en jiemvjz epf dep ipkuz wedevoupt iwisz pux epf vjip.

Tu, xju desit og vjiz fup'v apfistvepf xjev O fu, us jux O neli nz nupiz?

O'n opvisitvif et vu xjev ov ot zua fu pux! Fu zua jewi epzvjoph zua dep tjesi xovj at ecuav ov?Tunivonit vjisi esi piift epf xepvt vjev gix qiuqmi esi xommoph vu gomm. Ov katv niept vjisi ot mitt dunqivovoup epf suef cmudlt up zuas xez vu tumwoph vjev piif.