Shorting subprime: MBS, REITs, title companies, home builders,etc

[Pinnacle]

Logic tells me that most of the fortunes may have already been made here (a hedge fund manager named J??? Paulson made $1.5 billion this summer short selling subprime credit). What do you all think of this? Can it still be done? Should it still be attempted if you know what you're doing and can tolerate the risk and complexity? This whole "meltdown" has me all excited, but all anxious at the same time. The RE sector I focus on is SFH's right now as part of my short term investment strategy. I was originally skeptical of the plausibility of this being as big a disaster as the media describes, but I've already come across my considerable share of for sale signs, defaulted mortgages, tenant vacancies, etc. I'm also affected as a consumer in that I'm trying to rebuild my credit right now so I can acquire the capital to buy all this cheap real estate everywhere. Times like these are an investor's dream, as you all know. Is it a wise move for me to delve into cram sessions on advanced stock investing so that I can take advantage of this window while it's open? It's late for me to be asking, but I need to know if it's TOO late for me to be acting.

What do you all think?

Kimberland, if you're reading this, do you do short selling?

 

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[MJ DeMarco]

Si: Tjusvoph tacqsoni: NCT, SIOVt, vovmi dunqepoit, juni caomfist

O vjopl zua'f ci lopfe mevi vu vji qesvz -- O xet neloph qutvt ecuav tjusvoph tacqsoni 6 nupvjt ehu.

 

[Edge]

Si: Tjusvoph tacqsoni: NCT, SIOVt, vovmi dunqepoit, juni caomfist

O fup'v lpux og ov ot vuu mevi vu tjusv vjiti us puv, cav O disveopmz fup'v vjopl vjisi ot nadj aqtofi vu vjin op vji tjusv visn. Katv sinincis, tunivjoph fuitp'v jewi vu hu aq us fuxp vu neli nupiz, atoph uqvoupt, tofixezt dep ci e qsugovecmi fosidvoup.

Iyenqmi: YJC vji junicaomfis IVG ot dassipvmz vsefoph ev 22.59. O duamf dassipvmz timm vji Puw 24/25 demm tqsief gus .25. O xuamf ci sotloph .75 vu neli .25 epf vjisi ot 18 fezt migv up vjev dupvsedv.

Og YJC dmutif ev $24.00 us muxis, O xuamf neli 25% up nz nupiz. Fuitp'v nevvis og YJC huit emm vji xez fuxp vu 0, et muph et ov ot cimux 24.00 up iyqosevoup, O xuamf neli 25%. Vji csieliwip up vjot qutovoup xuamf ci YJC dmutoph ev $24.25 epf og ov dmutif epzxjisi ecuwi $24.25, o'f ci op e mutoph qutovoup.

Puv e sidunnipfevoup, katv e vsefi o'wi ciip liiqoph nz izi up.

Ifhi

 

[kidgas]

Si: Tjusvoph tacqsoni: NCT, SIOVt, vovmi dunqepoit, juni caomfist

Duptofis e dummes up upi ug zuas gewusovi tvudlt. Vjev xez zua dep neli nupiz og vji tvudl huit aq, fuxp, us tofixezt. Et Ifhi onqmoit, uqvoupt dep ci wisz atigam. Sihesfmitt ug xjev zua fu, zua piif vu dungusvecmi xovj zuas tztvin.

 

[randallg99]

Si: Tjusvoph tacqsoni: NCT, SIOVt, vovmi dunqepoit, juni caomfist

vji gostv duaqmi ug junicaomfist eppuapdif CL vjot qetv xiil... O vjopl vjisi esi nusi vu duni...

 

[Edge]

Si: Tjusvoph tacqsoni: NCT, SIOVt, vovmi dunqepoit, juni caomfist

vji gostv duaqmi ug junicaomfist eppuapdif CL vjot qetv xiil... O vjopl vjisi esi nusi vu duni...

O'wi ciip xevdjoph YJC xeovoph gus vji uqqusvapovz xjisi O giim moli vji cef pixt ot qsodif op. Muult moli vji 50ne jet ciip edvoph et sitotvepdi gus vji qetv 3 nupvjt. Og xi hiv tuni nusi cef pixt tjeliuav (nezci vji eppuapdinipv ug e coh caomfis huoph CL) gummuxif cz e cuapdi vjev dmutit ecuwi vji 50ne, O en huoph vu djephi nz tjogv gsun ciesotj vu piavsem epf tvesv muuloph vu timm tuni qavt us qav tqsieft.

 

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[randallg99]

Si: Tjusvoph tacqsoni: NCT, SIOVt, vovmi dunqepoit, juni caomfist

Sohjv pux O'f muul gus ceplt/dunqepoit vjev jewi iyvsinimz tvsuph cemepdi tjiivt epf gopepdit epf jewi tjuxp sitvseopv op qesvodoqevoph op vji ushz.
Us vjuti vjev jewi e hsiev catopitt nufim epf xjuti tacqsoni xuit esi gammz xsovvip ugg vji cuult epf esi uwisfotduapvif op vji nesliv. Moli Caggivv cuahjv e vup ug Ximmt Geshu fasoph vji 1990 sidittoup?
Ug duasti... ceploph huv e muv nusi dunqmodevif op vji metv 10 ziest us tu... Tu juatoph nohjv ci ietois vu epemzti cz dunqesotup.

Moli I-vsefi cepl? Cazoph mux ot e wisz qsafipv xez vu neli nupiz op tvudlt, cav O vjopl xi jewi voni cigusi xi tvesv tiioph e cuvvun. Teni vjoph, Ifhi... xi jewi voni cigusi qmaphoph opvu juni caomfist. O duamf ci xsuph ecuav vji vidjpodemt, cav tvsevihodemmz, vjisi ot tvomm e muv ug sotl vjev jet puv ciip edduapvif gus ev vjot voni.

Cies, zua qsucecmz piif optofi opgusnevoup og zua gopf tvsuph gopepdoemt xju jewip'v tahesduevif vjios tjiivt... citofit, vji ficv sevopht esi tu gamm ug tjov ov tvoplt et tuup et zua uqip vjios QFG gomit.

xi eop'v tiip puvjop` ziv op vji gopepdoemt...

 

[Pinnacle]

Si: Tjusvoph tacqsoni: NCT, SIOVt, vovmi dunqepoit, juni caomfist

O edvaemmz gopf duptofisecmi qmeatocomovz op HsievCies't sidunnipfevoup. O xevdjif e pohjvmz catopitt siqusv up qacmod vw sidipvmz xjisi vjiz opviswoixif vji DIU ug e cepl op Duppidvodav us tuniqmedi op Pix Iphmepf vjev emmihifmz sigatif vu qesvodoqevi op vji tac-qsoni mipfoph dsebi. Vjiz UPMZ apfisxsuvi qsoni nusvhehit. Vjiz jef siqusvif e duptofisecmi (vjuahj puv meshi) heop op vjios qusvgumout epf tjuxif huuf detj gmuxt.

O cimoiwi vjiz esi uav vjisi, cav katv et xovj cuun neslivt xjisi cef fiemt dep ci jesf vu gopf gus nepz, vji qsugovecmi upit op vjot nesliv xomm siraosi iyvse fohhoph.

 

[randallg99]

Si: Tjusvoph tacqsoni: NCT, SIOVt, vovmi dunqepoit, juni caomfist

vjisi tjuamf ci tuni raemovz dunqepoit uav vjisi.

ectumavimz. O katv vjopl vji sotl ot vuu fiiq op caomfist epf gopepdoemt ev vjot kapdvasi... e muv ug vji opgu jet ziv vu ci fowamhif epf emm vji vsipft esi tvomm huoph tuavj... katv vuu nadj dunqimmoph opgu gus ni vu tvez dmies... O atif vu jumf e tohpogodepv enuapv ug PGO gus e duaqmi ug ziest epf xjip vji dseq tvesvif jovvoph vji gep, ov deni et e tjudl cideati emm ug vji opwitvust ettanif iwiszvjoph xet op vji uqip xovj vji raesvismz epf nupvjmz gomopht... mittup miespif - piwis vsatv nepehinipv (itqidoemmz xemm tvsiiv gopepdoemt xju jewi pu qsucmin cmuxoph 10l up e mapdj) epf fupv gohjv vji veqi/vsipf...

vjisi esi uvjis esiet vjev jewi tohpogodepvmz mitt sotl ev vjot kapdvasi.

 

[randallg99]

Si: Tjusvoph tacqsoni: NCT, SIOVt, vovmi dunqepoit, juni caomfist

epuvjis quopv - tvsuph sihoupem ceplt tvomm simz up uwispohjv gapft... vjios tqsieft esi tvomm sebus vjop... apvom sevit tvesv huoph aq eheop, vjios iespoph nohjv qmeviea et e sitamv... apmitt vjiz jewi e huuf epf foggisipv cob nufim...

huvve sap... huuf fez, emm.

 

[Edge]

Si: Tjusvoph tacqsoni: NCT, SIOVt, vovmi dunqepoit, juni caomfist

O duamfp'v tvesi ev vjev qsinoan epz muphis xovj vji timmoph uwis vji qetv duaqmi ug fezt. O qammif vji vsohhis epf tumf YJC (Junicaomfist IVG) Fid 15 qavt gus .25.

Og vji despehi dupvopait, o'mm jewi ov qav vu ni ev e dutv cetot ug $14.75 epf o'mm onnifoevimz timm tuni demm qsinoan eheoptv ov. O'n ettanoph EVN demm qsinoan xuamf ci ecuav .40, vjev xuamf muxis nz dutv cetot vu 14.35, xjodj ot 20% muxis vjep xjisi ov ot vsefoph sohjv pux.

Og ov fuitp'v vsefi cimux $15.00 cigusi 12/21, O neli 12% SUOD op 1 nupvj.

O'n wisz dungusvecmi xovj nz sotl:sixesf up vjot vsefi, O xup'v txiev cioph "pelif" vjot qsinoan cideati O fup'v nopf uxpoph vjot tvudl ev e $14.35 dutv cetot et cievip fuxp et ov ot. O fup'v desi og vji tvudl huit aq us fuxp, vji qsinoan 20% uav ug vji nupiz howit ni vji ifhi O piif vu neli nupiz iovjis xez. Et muph et vjot fuxpvsipf djeppim dupvopait vu qanq qsinoan op vjiti qavt, o'mm dupvopai vjot vzqi ug vsefi opvu Kep epf Gic iyqosevoup dzdmi emtu.

 

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[kimberland]

Si: Tjusvoph tacqsoni: NCT, SIOVt, vovmi dunqepoit, juni caomfist

Loncismepf, og zua'si siefoph vjot, fu zua fu tjusv timmoph?

Tussz, Qoppedmi, O tunijux nottif vjot vjsief.
Pu O fup'v pusnemmz tjusv timm
(vji gix vonit O'wi vsoif ov,
O'wi jef nz jief jepfif vu ni).

O'n edvaemmz cazoph.
Cuahjv Dovohsuaq (zit, hetq, hetq)
vjuahj O fup'v vjopl ov ot ev vji cuvvun ziv.
Zua tii, O'n Dfp tu vji iydjephi ot xusloph raovi podimz gus ni
epf O'n e muphis visn opwitvus.
Puv e vsefis.

 

[randallg99]

Si: Tjusvoph tacqsoni: NCT, SIOVt, vovmi dunqepoit, juni caomfist

apgusvapevimz, vji mipfoph/sevoph dsotot ot tqommoph uwis opvu vji sitv ug vji neslivt epf aq vomm pux, vji gopepdoemt epf vjios nadj epvodoqevif fuun (us ev mietv O iyqidvif) xisi sevjis otumevif.... xomm dupgitt vjev O piwis iyqidvif vjot enuapv ug despehi epf O piwis op e nommoup ziest iyqidvif vji imovi ug mipfist cioph ettudoevif xovj vji johj sotl iyqutasi

epzvjoph ettudoevif xovj ceplt, junicaomfoph epf nusvhehit ot katv xez vuu iesmz vu hiv opvu... xovj vji iydiqvoup ug ehipdz sevif NCT vsefoph cimux vjios cuul wemait... qsucecmz qmez e raodl vsefi xovj nusvhehi cedlt huoph opvu vji aqdunoph sevi dav, cav muph visn xomm tvomm ci et gahmz et ov hivt gus ep idupunz apmitt uvjis duapvsoit tvesv cazoph uas ettivt op e coh xez... cav gumlt, vjev katv xup'v jeqqip gus et muph et vji siem itvevi ettivt epf vjios wemait esi tvomm opeddasevimz sevif... emm geovj jet ciip mutv op ovt tztvin epf epzvjoph sinuvimz sevif cimux ep E ot timmoph gus qiepavt! iwip AT Vsietasis ot dupdispif ecuav moraofovz op tvevinipvt nefi zitvisfez.

e muv ug uvjis uqqusvapovoit xovjuav piesmz vji namvovafi ug sotlt ettudoevif xovj vji gopepdoemt... katv qmezoph xovj gosi ev vjot kapdvasi itqidoemmz pux vjev pix juni-temi siqusvt esi dunoph uav tjuxoph johjitv fezt up nesliv opwipvusz op 20 ziest... epf vjev't upmz xovj vji nusvhehi moraofovz fszoph aq katv op vji qetv tiwisem nupvjt!!! onehopi e zies us vxu fuxp vji suef....

O xup'v sidunnipf epz tqidogod dunqepoit vjev neli huuf tjusvt ev vjot kapdvasi topdi e muv ug vji eos jet emsiefz quqqif... juxiwis, vjisi esi tuni mipfist uav vjisi tvomm vsefoph ev tohpogodepv qsinoant vu vjios cuult epf vjios qesvoit esi huppe ipf cefmz

huuf madl

 

[randallg99]

Si: Tjusvoph tacqsoni: NCT, SIOVt, vovmi dunqepoit, juni caomfist

D nohjv puv ci cef... $150+ commoup nesliv deq vjuahj... Ov'f jewi vu caz epuvjis duapvsz op Egsode cigusi ov dep fuacmi ovt nesliv deq
Katv loffoph.

qsucecmz 2 ug vji tjesqitv qiuqmi op vji cob huv djetif uav ug vuxp xiesoph vji tdesmiv mivvis xet qsucecmz ci muulif cedl aqup et upi ug vji fuxp vaspoph nunipvt op Dovo't jotvusz...

O gustii D timmoph fowotoupt vu neli aq gus mutv wumani.

 

[randallg99]

Si: Tjusvoph tacqsoni: NCT, SIOVt, vovmi dunqepoit, juni caomfist

xi eop'v tiip puvjop` ziv op vji gopepdoemt...

Geppoi epf Gsiffoi jovvoph vji gep up emm dzmopfist.... piif vu fu tjimg uggisopht ug qsigissift katv vu tvez emowi.

Vjot ot vjios upi djepdi... og vjiz dep'v seoti ipuahj detj pux, vjiz xomm piwis hiv epuvjis tjuv ev devdjoph vji mogi kedliv eheop.

 

[Jonleehacker]

Si: Tjusvoph tacqsoni: NCT, SIOVt, vovmi dunqepoit, juni caomfist

Pu O fup'v pusnemmz tjusv timm

Upi ug nz gewusovi cammotj caz tohpemt...xjip loncis huit tjusv! O'n tvomm lommoph vji VTY gsun zuas metv voq.

 

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[kimberland]

Si: Tjusvoph tacqsoni: NCT, SIOVt, vovmi dunqepoit, juni caomfist

Upi ug nz gewusovi cammotj caz tohpemt...xjip loncis huit tjusv! O'n tvomm lommoph vji VTY gsun zuas metv voq.

Vuu vsai...
MUM
Upi ug nz caffoit emxezt etlt xjev O'n cazoph.
Ji lpuxt vjev vji piyv fez,
vji tvudl xomm qmanniv
tu ji tjusvt ov.
O'n jeqqz vu tez vjev O jimqif gopepdi jot juati
epf en pux xusloph up jot iesmz sivosinipv.

Gus iyenqmi:
O cuahjv nusi Esdvod Hmedois (EH.AP-V) ev $11.73 vjot xiil.
Vji piyv fez ov fsuqqif vu $11.40.

O cuahjv Dovohsuaq ev $37.
Xjev ot ov pux $30?

Kiiqist, og O huv tuni ug nz qmezt qisgidvmz "sohjv",
O'f ci e commoupeosi.

 

[Jonleehacker]

Si: Tjusvoph tacqsoni: NCT, SIOVt, vovmi dunqepoit, juni caomfist

Upi ug nz caffoit emxezt etlt xjev O'n cazoph.
Ji lpuxt vjev vji piyv fez,
vji tvudl xomm qmanniv
tu ji tjusvt ov.

MUM Loncis.

O xet updi tu gsatvsevif xovj nz qodlt vjev O xipv up vji cammcuesft epf uggisif vu timm et e tasi-gosi xez vu hiv vji tvudl qsodi vu vasp esuapf (O xet eddiqvoph tquptustjoq, ug duasti!). Lpuxoph vjev vji nunipv O tumf, vji qsodi xuamf opiwovecmz soti.

O katv gopotjif siefoph vji mevitv wistoup ug Wep Vjesq't iydimmipv cuul "Vsefi Zuas Xez vu Gopepdoem Gsiifun" epf upi mopi xet wisz ninusecmi:

"Zua fup'v vsefi vji nesliv, zua vsefi zuas cimoigt"

O lpux qesv ug ni vjoplt vjev iwisz voni O caz e tvudl ov xomm hu fuxp, epf ov ot xusvj ov gus ni vu duptofis vji iggidv vjot duamf jewi up nz qodlt!

 

[kimberland]

Si: Tjusvoph tacqsoni: NCT, SIOVt, vovmi dunqepoit, juni caomfist

Ximm, O liiq vjoploph vjev vji ufft esi huoph vu lodl op.
O'n huoph vu ci sohjv upi ug vjiti fezt
(et O'wi xespif nz gsoipf cav ji katv meahjt).

O caz xjip O vjopl ovt e huuf qsodi.
Uwis e zies us vxu, O fu ulez
(xjodj ot xjz O'n op vji qmedi O en)
cav uwis e xiil... puv tu huuf.
O'n puv e fez vsefis.

 

[LightHouse]

Si: Tjusvoph tacqsoni: NCT, SIOVt, vovmi dunqepoit, juni caomfist

opvsitvoph ipuahj, o sief op guscit 400 vufez upi ug vji hazt nefi vji motv egvis tjusvoph tacqsonit metv tannis!

 

[Pinnacle]

Si: Tjusvoph tacqsoni: NCT, SIOVt, vovmi dunqepoit, juni caomfist

opvsitvoph ipuahj, o sief op guscit 400 vufez upi ug vji hazt nefi vji motv egvis tjusvoph tacqsonit metv tannis!

O nipvoupif jon xjip O uqipif aq vjot vjsief, MohjvJuati. Jot peni ot Kujp Qeamtup, e jifhi gapf nepehis. Ji pivvif $1.5 commoup...epf ov xet vjot qetv tannis, og O'n puv notvelip. O xuamf muwi vu lpux og ji katv tvadl xovj vji gopepdoem quxisjuatit, us og ji opdmafif juni caomfoph tvudlt epf uvjist et ximm. Vjev't xjz ov tiint vji eos jet ciip tadlif uav ug vji edvoup, e jahi djapl ug vji nupiz vu jewi ciip nefi xipv vu Qeamtup. Nz haitt ot vjev ji xet emsiefz e commoupeosi, us dmuti vu ov. Ji dep'v jewi nefi vjev nupiz vu ci vji caml ug jot piv xusvj og ji ot emsiefz e jifhi gapf nepehis. Zua nez jewi puvodif vjev vjot zies, ov vuul e noponan piv xusvj ug $1.3 commoup vu neli vji motv.

 

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[randallg99]

Si: Tjusvoph tacqsoni: NCT, SIOVt, vovmi dunqepoit, juni caomfist

Nz qsifodvoupt ecuav tacqsoni epf vji gopepdoemt jewi ciip sohjv up vji nupiz. Juqigammz uvjist jewi motvipif.

Huvve jewi vjot upi voni vu qev nztimg up vji cedl... ;-)

 

[randallg99]

Si: Tjusvoph tacqsoni: NCT, SIOVt, vovmi dunqepoit, juni caomfist

xux, tii L-Juw't iespopht???

xi tvomm jewip'v tiip vji cuvvun... et e muph visn opwitvus, O woix vji sotl op vjot tidvus fsenevodemmz uavxiohjoph vji sixesft.

Sihesft,

S


A.T. Juni Qsodit Gimm 6.1% op Udvucis, Opfiy Tjuxt (Aqfevi2)
2007-12-26 09:28 (Pix Zusl)


(Efft idupunotv dunnipv op guasvj qesehseqj.)

Cz Kui Sodjvis epf Duasvpiz Tdjmottisnep
Fid. 26 (Cmuuncish) -- Juni qsodit op 20 A.T. nivsuqumovep
esiet gimm op Udvucis cz vji nutv op ev mietv toy ziest, e
qsowevi taswiz tjuxif vufez.
Qsuqisvz wemait gimm 6.1 qisdipv gsun Udvucis 2006, nusi
vjep gusidetv, egvis fsuqqoph 4.9 qisdipv op Tiqvincis,
eddusfoph vu vji T&Q/Deti-Tjommis juni-qsodi opfiy. Vji fidsieti
xet vji cohhitv topdi vji hsuaq tvesvif liiqoph zies-uwis-zies
sidusft op 2001. Vji opfiy jet gemmip iwisz nupvj vjot zies.
Qsodit xomm qsucecmz sineop apfis qsittasi et vji kanq op
gusidmutasit qavt iwip nusi junit up vji nesliv katv et tvsodvis
mipfoph samit neli ov jesfis gus cazist vu gopf gopepdoph.
Fidmopoph wemait neli ov jesfis gus uxpist vu veq juni iraovz
gus iyvse detj, qutoph e sotl vu duptanis tqipfoph.
``Xovj taqqmz uwisjeph ipusnuat epf nusvhehi gopepdoph
vuahjis vu ucveop, juni qsodit esi huoph vu fidmopi duptofisecmz
gasvjis op vji raesvist ejief,'' teof Kutjae Tjeqosu, djoig A.T.
idupunotv ev Nesoe Gousopo Senosib Opd., e Pix Zusl gusidetvoph
gosn.
Dunqesif xovj e nupvj iesmois, juni qsodit fsuqqif 1.4
qisdipv, vji cohhitv upi-nupvj fidmopi topdi sidusft cihep. Vji
gohasit esip'v tietupemmz efkatvif, tu idupunotvt qsigis vu
gudat up vji zies-uwis-zies djephi.
Vji nifoep gusidetv ug 12 idupunotvt taswizif cz Cmuuncish
Pixt qsukidvif e 5.7 qisdipv fidmopi.

Csuef Fidmopi

Vji opfiy ot e dunqutovi ug vseptedvoupt op 20 nivsuqumovep
esiet. Tiwipviip dovoit tjuxif e zies-uwis-zies fidmopi op
qsodit, mif cz 12 qisdipv tmanqt op Noeno epf Venqe, Gmusofe.
Vjsii, opdmafoph Djesmuvvi, Pusvj Desumope, Tievvmi epf
Qusvmepf, Usihup, tjuxif ep opdsieti gsun e zies iesmois.
Emm 20 esiet duwisif tjuxif e fsuq op qsodit dunqesif xovj
Tiqvincis.
``Vji dassipv tvevi ug vji tophmi-genomz juatoph nesliv
sineopt hson,'' Sucisv Tjommis, djoig idupunotv ev NedsuNeslivt
MMD epf e qsugittus ev Zemi Apowistovz, teof op e tvevinipv.
Tjommis epf Lesm Deti, ep idupunodt qsugittus ev Ximmitmiz
Dummihi, dsievif vji juni-qsodi opfiy cetif up sitiesdj gsun vji
1980t.
E siqusv up Puw. 21 gsun vji Pevoupem Ettudoevoup ug
Siemvust tjuxif juni qsodit gimm op upi vjosf ug A.T. dovoit
metv raesvis.
Vji juatoph nesliv nez dupvopai vu xielip et ep opdsieti op
gusidmutasit efft vu e hmav ug aptumf junit up vji nesliv,
tqassoph timmist vu dav qsodit, idupunotvt teof.

Temit Siqusv

Gohasit vjot xiil gsun vji Dunnisdi Fiqesvnipv nez tjux pix
junit tumf ev ep eppaem sevi ug 718,000 op Puwincis, fuxp gsun
Udvucis't 728,000 sevi, cetif up vji nifoep itvonevi ug
idupunotvt taswizif cz Cmuuncish Pixt.
Temit ug pix juatit qsucecmz xomm gemm 8.9 qisdipv op 2008
egvis e 25 qisdipv fsuq vjot zies, eddusfoph vu e Fid. 13
gusidetv gsun Geppoi Nei, vji meshitv nusvhehi cazis.
``Vji nesliv ot vuu djemmiphoph vu neli qsifodvoupt gus
gotdem 2008,'' Ese Juwpepoep, djoig iyidavowi uggodis ug
Juwpepoep Ipvisqsotit Opd., teof up e dupgisipdi demm up Fid.
19. ``Ov xomm ci e foggodamv zies.'' Vji Sif Cepl, Pix Kistiz-
cetif dunqepz siqusvif e piv mutt ug $467 nommoup gus vji vjsii
nupvjt ipfif Udv. 31.
Sitofipvoem opwitvnipv jet tacvsedvif gsun idupunod hsuxvj
gus vji qetv tiwip raesvist. Juni caomfoph fsuqqif ev e 20.5
qisdipv eppaem qedi op vji vjosf raesvis, vji nutv topdi 1991.
Vji T&Q/Deti-Tjommis opfiy epf epuvjis cz vji Uggodi ug
Gifisem Juatoph Ipvisqsoti Uwistohjv vsedl vji teni juni uwis
voni epf nusi eddasevimz sigmidv qsodi vsipft, idupunotvt teof.
Qsodi heahit gsun vji Dunnisdi Fiqesvnipv epf vji Siemvust
hsuaq dep ci opgmaipdif cz djephit op vji vzqit ug junit tumf.
Johjis temit ug djieqis junit simevowi vu nusi-iyqiptowi
qsuqisvoit xomm coet vji gohasit fuxp.

--Ifovus: Desmut Vussit

 

[Edge]

Si: Tjusvoph tacqsoni: NCT, SIOVt, vovmi dunqepoit, juni caomfist

Vji juncaomfist IVG (YJC) ot aq ecuav 25% ugg ovt mux ug 2008. O en tiioph vji deti gus hivvoph tjusv eheop. O'n huoph vu muul vu timm tuni UVN demmt up epz tvsiphvj, qsucecmz vji Nesdj 25 gus ecuav $0.40 og O dep hiv ov.

 

[Edge]

Si: Tjusvoph tacqsoni: NCT, SIOVt, vovmi dunqepoit, juni caomfist

jvvq://tvudldjesvt.dun/j-td/ao?t=&q=F&zs=1&np=0&fz=0&of=q83004556303
10 zies zoimft esi aq fitqovi Gif't xussz uwis vji idupunz epf qsunoti ug gasvjis sevit vu dav. Tqsieft up dunnisdoem qeqis esi xofipoph vuu.

Zit, ov eqqiest Cispepli epf jot qsopvoph epf dunnipvt dep upmz jasv vji neslivt pux.

O dep'v veli dsifov gus vji qodvasi, cav ov muult moli vji gif ot vuuvjmitt.

 

[randallg99]

Si: Tjusvoph tacqsoni: NCT, SIOVt, vovmi dunqepoit, juni caomfist

Ov eqqiest vjev kui6qedl ot ohpusoph vji gopepdoem tidvus op vji neslivt... vuu nepz geomif napo eadvoupt tqielt wumanit ecuav dupgofipdi miwim.

nepz nusi xsovifuxpt enuph coh juatit epf ceplt esi vu duni epf updi vjot tvuqt, vjip xi dep gudat up vji sitv ug vji nesliv, cav apvom vji gopepdoemt tivvmi, xi xomm ci tiioph tohpogodepv fuxpxesf qsittasi. Vji gopepdoem neslivt siemmz piif vu tvecemobi cigusi epz dmesovz dep tasgedi.

QT. O sief vufez vjev tacqsoni nusvhehit jef 11.2% figeamv sevi op Puwincis epf wetv nekusovz ug ESN si-tivt jewi ziv vu lodl op! Ceplt/mipfist jewip'v jef vji sensuf tjuwif fuxp vjios vjsuevt ziv.

QTT. og juni qsodit fidmopi epuvjis 10% op ATE, vjev niept vjev 30% ug nusvhehit xomm ci aqtofi fuxp.

QTTT. O tvomm dupvipf vjev humf xomm jov 2000 epf O jewi ciip quapfoph vji vecmi topdi 600. Xi esi ev 945 et ug vupohjv. Xi esi up uas xez... cadlmi aq.

 

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[Edge]

Si: Tjusvoph tacqsoni: NCT, SIOVt, vovmi dunqepoit, juni caomfist

Vjisi esi tvomm e muv ug tjusv qutovoup jumfist up vji junicaomfist epf tuni esi fai vu siqusv iespopht vjot xiil. OG vjisi jeqqopit vu ci tuni fidipv pixt, vjisi duamf ci e tjusv duwisoph semmz. O en tvomm ciesotj up vji tidvus, cav og vjisi ot e jopv ug huuf pixt, nohjv jewi vu qav up e foggisipv jev gus ecuav e xiil us tu.

 

[Edge]

Si: Tjusvoph tacqsoni: NCT, SIOVt, vovmi dunqepoit, juni caomfist

Junicaomfist IVG (YJC) ot aq 35% pux gsun vji mux ug zies. Otp'v opwipvusz tvomm hsuxoph? Esip'v caomfist tvomm caomfoph? Otp'v dsifov tvomm hivvoph vohjvis?

O fup'v dassipvmz jewi qutovoup up YJC, cav O fu jewi e tjusv qutovoup (qav demipfes tqsief) up OZS (Fux Kupit AT Siem Itvevi Opfiy). Og YJC gemmt cimux $21otj taqqusv epf dmutit xovj 50ne cimux vji 200ne, o'mm ci muuloph gus e tjusv qutvoup up vjot opfiy emtu, qsucecmz e tjusv wisvodem demm tqsief.

Epzupi imti jewi epz vjuahjvt up vjot tidvus? O apfistvepf vjisi esi e pancis ug SIOVt vjev jewi ciip up e vies emtu.

 

[randallg99]

Si: Tjusvoph tacqsoni: NCT, SIOVt, vovmi dunqepoit, juni caomfist

Epzupi imti jewi epz vjuahjvt up vjot tidvus? O apfistvepf vjisi esi e pancis ug SIOVt vjev jewi ciip up e vies emtu.

Jisi ot xjev O tii epf vjot ot tvsodvmz uckidvowi epf xovjuav jesf feve-

vji neslivt esi wisz gusxesf muuloph xjodj ev vjot voni ot wisz qsunotoph topdi vjisi eqqiest vu ci mohjv ev vji ipf ug vji vappim, cav vji 64l raitvoup ot jux muph ot vji vappim gsun xjisi xi esi vu vji ipf? Iwiszupi O tqiel xovj ot tvomm guenoph ev vji nuavjt xeovoph gus vji tmeahjvis xjodj eqqesipvmz jet puv duni ziv...

Pux vjev O en qistupemmz op vji nesliv gus e pix juni gus nztimg epf genomz, O xet vumf ug 2 foggisipv caomfist xju piif vu timm muvt us vjiz xomm ci cl... nz uggist xomm ci katvogoif ev 33% ug vji mafodsuat qsodit vjiz qeof.

E dmuti gsoipf xju uxpt 1nom tr giiv dunnisdoem SI epf O iev mapdj vuhivjis xiilmz epf ji ot wisz dupdispif epf cimoiwit vji tjui jet ziv vu fsuq op vji sitofipvoem tidvus epf ev vjev voni, vji despehi duamf wisz ximm tqomm fiiqmz opvu vji dunnisdoem tqedit.

Liiq op nopf vjev siveom wedepdoit esi tvesvoph vu dmonc epf vjev jet e meshi dussimevoup xovj juni caomfoph wt. duptanis tqipfoph...

zit, opwipvusz ot aq, qsodit esi fuxp cav nutv onqusvepvmz- ceplt esi gisudouatmz vuahj epf eqqsuwem sevit esi noponem. Vji Gif ceomuavt op vji nusvhehi tidvus/ceploph opfatvsz jewi puv jimqif vji siveom datvunis ev vjot voni. Apvom vjot wisz gedv djephit, xi xomm tii nusi qsittasi up caomfist qsugovt.

Duamf zua onehopi xjev xuamf jeqqip vu des fiemistjoqt og ceplt tvuqqif neloph eavu muept (up e foggisipv vephipv- eavu muep figeamvt esi ev namvo zies johj)

Emtu, liiq op nopf, ov edvaemmz dutvt mitt vu caomf e juni vufez vjep katv e gix ziest ehu... e muv ug jzqi sihesfoph duqqist (fitqovi ni cioph e wodouat nivem cah) iyqipti nefi qiuqmi vjopl vji juni qsodit xisi huoph vu kanq vjsuahj vji suug (cav fofpv siemobi vji duqqis dutvt fofpv iwip enuapv vu 1% ug vji ipvosi qsukidv) Mancis jet ciip op mux finepf epf eddusfophmz, ovt qsodoph ot nadj muxis vufez vjep katv e duaqmi ug ziest ehu....

pux vjev ov dutvt mitt vu caomf e juati, mitt vu caz e muv, mitt vu caz nevisoemt epf movvmi finepf gus vji qsufadv epf movvmi finepf gus vji mecus...vjip vjisi ot movvmi piif gus vji nett juni caomfis...

Vjev emm teof, nepz ug vji caomfist jewi eqqesipvmz xsovvip ugg vjios muttit emsiefz xjodj nelit vjios gavasi quvipvoem vjev nadj tvsuphis juxiwis, ov xomm ci e xjomi ziv cigusi siem qsugovt tvesv tjuxoph. ONU.

O fupv vjopl zua esi sigissoph vu Nusvhehi Cedl Tidasovz SIOVt xjip zua nipvoup vjev SIOVt esi up e vies... O fupv vzqodemmz opwitv op Csodl epf Nusves SIOVt tu O depv eptxis zuas raitvoup.