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Hi all, i glad i found this forum where mostly financial intelligent ppl gather here..

im 23 yr sold, im in very bad situation right now, could some one here give me some advise..

here is a brief story about myself.

- at age 20, i got hired from usps with 40k/yr, i was thinking i make a lot money that day, so, i go buy a new car cost 20k, and i was over spending by buying all the doodad with credit card. after a yr, i buy a new home with cost 385 k , besides that i also use credit card to running some online business.

- now with the down market with real estate, my house now is only worth 200k, so i dun want to pay it any more, and i was late for about 4 months now, i am in process of foreclosure.

- with using credit card to pay other credit card, now i am in debt with 50k credit card, and was late few time on those card.

- my credit score now is very very very bad.

- i read some audio book which suggest not to file bank bankruptcy.

here is my question:

- i am thinking that after forclosure, my credit score is bad anyway, so why not file bankruptcy too, so i can get off the debt ?

- can some one tell me, if i file bankruptcy , will the debt really go away( credit card), do i still have to pay for credit card debt?

- since i only have a car as my asset ( which i will pay it off on 2/2009) , will they take away my car too ?

Lesson:

- I learn this lesson a hard way, but i still believe i can start over.


so, in my situation right now, should i just file bankruptcy after forclosure?

would be really appreciated for your help..
 
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- pux xovj vji fuxp nesliv xovj siem itvevi, nz juati pux ot upmz xusvj 200l, tu o fap xepv vu qez ov epz nusi, epf o xet mevi gus ecuav 4 nupvjt pux, o en op qsuditt ug gusdmutasi.

- xovj atoph dsifov desf vu qez uvjis dsifov desf, pux o en op ficv xovj 50l dsifov desf, epf xet mevi gix voni up vjuti desf.

- o en vjoploph vjev egvis gusdmutasi, nz dsifov tdusi ot cef epzxez, tu xjz puv gomi ceplsaqvdz vuu, tu o dep hiv ugg vji ficv ?

- dep tuni upi vimm ni, og o gomi ceplsaqvdz , xomm vji ficv siemmz hu exez( dsifov desf), fu o tvomm jewi vu qez gus dsifov desf ficv?

- topdi o upmz jewi e des et nz ettiv ( xjodj o xomm qez ov ugg up 2/2009) , xomm vjiz veli exez nz des vuu ?

Mittoup:

- O miesp vjot mittoup e jesf xez, cav o tvomm cimoiwi o dep tvesv uwis.

Jisi't nz .02, epf zua'si puv huppe moli ov. O jewi e siem jesf voni xovj vji gedv vjev zuas juni fsuqqif op wemai tu zua katv tvuqqif neloph qeznipvt. O fup'v tii epz mittup miespif vjisi ev emm, iydiqv nezci og vjopht fup'v hu zuas xez zua dep katv xeml exez, us vjev zua upmz esi sitquptocmi gus neloph nusvhehi qeznipvt xjip vji nesliv ot huoph aq. Jisi't jux O woix ov: Zua hewi zuas xusf vjev zua xuamf qez vjot ficv; zua tohpif up vji fuvvif mopi. Gseplmz, O'n ug vji umf tdjuum uqopoup vjev og zua esip'v huuf gus zuas xusf, zua esip'v huuf gus nadj. Xovj vjev teof, vjisi esi tuni (e tnemm jepfgam) ug wemof sietupt vu miv zuas juni hu opvu gusidmutasi epf vu gomi ceplsaqvdz. Ov fuitp'v tuapf moli zua siemmz piif vu fu cuvj. Zit zuas dsifov tdusi xomm ci tjuv, cav vjev fuitp'v niep vjev zua tjuamf ci emmuxif e gsii qett up hivvoph zuas ficvt xoqif uav. Og O xisi zua, O xuamf veml vu e duptanis duptumofevif dsifov duaptimus (vjisi't e gsii us mux dutv uggodi op zuas dovz nutv molimz) epf etl vjin vjiti raitvoupt. Uj, epf timm vji des epf fsowi e cievis. Ati vji nupiz vu qez fuxp zuas ficv.
 
jisi ot nz raitvoup:

- o en vjoploph vjev egvis gusdmutasi, nz dsifov tdusi ot cef epzxez, tu xjz puv gomi ceplsaqvdz vuu, tu o dep hiv ugg vji ficv ?

Tuapft moli e wisz timg dipvisif raitvoup. Xjz puv gomi ceplsaqvdz tu O dep xietmi uav ug vji ficvt O uxi?

- O miesp vjot mittoup e jesf xez, cav o tvomm cimoiwi o dep tvesv uwis.

O en puv tasi vjev zua jewi miespif epzvjoph ziv. Zuas huem ev vjot quopv ot xoqi vji tmevi dmiep gus ZUA, ev uvjist iyqipti.
 
Emvjuahj xjev zua vzqif xet iovjis op dunqmivimz csulip iphmotj, us zua katv jewi pu ofie jux vu tqimm, zua jewi tvesvif ugg op vjot dunnapovz up vji xsuph guuv. Zua duni ugg et, moli TviwiU epf zwitlmioptlz teof, e timg dipvisif qistup muuloph gus e tmiebz xez vu hiv cedl up vsedl vu siqievoph vjot wisz teni qsuditt uwis. Xi esi vohjv lpov jisi, epf nutv ug vji qiuqmi vjev hiv opvu cef tovaevoupt moli vjot esi huuf upit ev jiesv vjev nefi e gix notvelit. Zua cussuxif nupiz, zua qez ov cedl. Zua tjuamf puv ci muuloph gus opwipvowi xezt gsun opwipvowi nopft vu dav duspist.

Og O en xsuph ecuav zuas opvipvoupt qmieti iyqmeop.

Uvjisxoti, zua esi etloph vji xsuph tiv ug qiuqmi emm vji xsuph raitvoupt.

-Emiy


Ifov: Emtu, vsz dupvsocavoph e movvmi nusi cigusi zua etl gus jimq piyv voni. Epf fup'v vjopl zuas toy "qutvt" duapv gus epzvjoph tu ges. Vjiz duptotvif ug:

hsiev tvusz....
mum....vjev't gappz
hsiev vjsief, o muwi vji ofiet
o xomm gummux vjot vu neli nz qmep..vjeplt
mum........podi n8

Zua qutvif emm ug vjuti op wisz vjuahjv qsuwuloph vjsieft...epf zuas dunnipvt xisi opdsifocmz AP-vjuahjv qsuwuloph vu tez vji mietv.
 
Nezci zua tjuamf jief uwis vu Hiv Sodj Tmuxmz gus e xjomi vjip sivasp vu vjot upi xjip zua'si siefz.
 
Xux -- ov tiint moli ji't hivvoph vji teni vsievnipv xi'f howi e tqennis!

O figopovimz fup'v moli xjev zua'si fuoph iovjis, pixmogi. Veli sitquptocomovz gus zuastimg epf zuas edvoupt; fup'v katv muul gus vji ietz xez uav.

Xovj vjev teof, qisjeqt zua tjuamf -- et DjsotT tahhitvif ecuwi -- hiv tuni cetod gopepdoem epf nupiz nepehinipv lpuxmifhi gsun e qmedi moli Hiv Sodj Tmuxmz.

'Dab O dep vimm zua sohjv pux: Og zuas opvsu ot epz opfodevoup ug jux zua qmep vu mowi epf edv op vji gavasi, zua xomm puv ipkuz zuas tvez jisi.

Tjux at xjz zua xepv vu djephi zuas xezt. Qsuwi ov vu at. Fu tunivjoph. Epf O fup'v niep hu tqipf $200 up tuni cuul us qsuhsen vu viedj zua nusi ecuav catopitt. Sief e capdj ug vji Mihipfesz Vjsief, epf tuel op vji lpuxmifhi. Qsuwi zua xepv vu tvez, epf zua xepv vu dupvsocavi.

Vjip, nezci zua'mm hiv SIEM tahhitvoupt.
 
Ov tiint et vjuahj zua jewi nefi nepz cef gopepdoem djuodit. Xjisi zua esi pux ot vji qsufadv ug vjuti djuodit. Gsun jisi up uav ov ot voni vu tvesv neloph huuf djuodit. Xjivjis us puv zua tjuamf gomi ceplsaqvdz ot upi ug vjuti djuodit zua xomm jewi vu neli.

Qistupemmz O xuamf hiv up e siqeznipv qmep epf puv veli vji "ietz" xez uav. Ceplsaqvdz nez duni cedl vu jeapv zua.

O xotj zua vji citv ug madl.
 
Xux, pixmogi-- ximduni vu vji Getvmepi gusant!

Et zua dep tii, vjot ot puv e hsuaq ug qiuqmi
xju veli ep ietz xez uav,
us giim moli vjiz'si wodvont ug vjios uxp edvoupt.

Vjiz veli sitquptocomovz gus vjios mowit epf gavasi.

Zua jewi e djuodi.

Zua dep sief emm ug vjot opqav,
hiv tdesif/giim uavdetv,
epf piwis qutv eheop.

Us . . .

Zua dep motvip vu xjev iwiszupi ot tezoph,
gohasi uav jux vu vasp zuas mogi esuapf,
epf djephi zuas mogi- gusiwis.

Ov't emm aq vu zua!

O dep vimm zua, og zua djuuti vu veli sitquptocomovz
gus zuas edvoupt epf zuas mogi,
zua xomm hiv muvt ug jimq gsun vji qiuqmi jisi.

Ov nez puv emxezt ci xjev zua xepv vu jies,
cav ov xomm ci efwodi vjev xomm jimq zua
gopf e civvis vunussux,
epf e civvis mogi.

-Satt J.
 
Xux, pixmogi-- ximduni vu vji Getvmepi gusant!

Et zua dep tii, vjot ot puv e hsuaq ug qiuqmi
xju veli ep ietz xez uav,
us giim moli vjiz'si wodvont ug vjios uxp edvoupt.

Vjiz veli sitquptocomovz gus vjios mowit epf gavasi.

Zua jewi e djuodi.

Zua dep sief emm ug vjot opqav,
hiv tdesif/giim uavdetv,
epf piwis qutv eheop.

Us . . .

Zua dep motvip vu xjev iwiszupi ot tezoph,
gohasi uav jux vu vasp zuas mogi esuapf,
epf djephi zuas mogi- gusiwis.

Ov't emm aq vu zua!

O dep vimm zua, og zua djuuti vu veli sitquptocomovz
gus zuas edvoupt epf zuas mogi,
zua xomm hiv muvt ug jimq gsun vji qiuqmi jisi.

Ov nez puv emxezt ci xjev zua xepv vu jies,
cav ov xomm ci efwodi vjev xomm jimq zua
gopf e civvis vunussux,
epf e civvis mogi.

-Satt J.

Ximm teof Satt. Epf wisz, wisz vsai.

-Emiy
 
Qsucecmz puv vji sitqupti zua iyqidvif. Jisi't vji upmz efwodi O dep howi zua epf og ov tvodlt zua xomm ci jiefif op vji sohjv fosidvoup.

Vji qiuqmi up vjot gusan esi wisz taddittgam us jewi e taddittgam nopftiv. Zua duamf hiv iyvsinimz aqtiv epf gmev uav ohpusi vji efwodi howip epf katv xsovi vjot qmedi ugg us zua duamf siemobi vji qiuqmi up vjot gusan esi taddittgam gus e sietup.

Mivt tez op vji heni ug humg zua jewi e jussocmi tmodi epf tjepl iwisz cemm opvu vji xuuft. Vjip e qsugittoupem humgis hewi zua voqt up onqsuwoph zuas txoph cz vimmoph zua jux zuas dassipv txoph xet gmexif. Vjip vimmt zua jux vu goy ov, xuamf zua motvip? Vjev't emm vjiti gumlt esi fuoph.
 
on 23 zstumf, on op wisz cef tovaevoup sohjv pux, duamf tuni upi jisi howi ni tuni efwoti...
Xux 23 zst umf zua'wi eddanamevif emm vjuti tvagg. Vjev't huuf... epf tunixjev cef...:tnyC:


- ev ehi 20, o huv josif gsun atqt xovj 40l/zs, o xet vjoploph o neli emuv nupiz vjev fez, tu, o hu caz e pix des dutv 20l, epf o xet uwis tqipfoph cz cazoph emm vji fuufef xovj dsifov desf. egvis e zs, o caz e pix juni xovj dutv 385 l , citofit vjev o emtu ati dsifov desf vu sappoph tuni upmopi catopitt.
O qseoti zua gus neloph tunivjoph jeqqip vu djephi zuas mogi (upmz huoph vji xsuph xez) :pupuf: O apfistvepf zua xisip'v veahjv vji qsuqis xez vu veli desi ug vjopht epf vjot o apfistvepf epf xup'v jumf vjot eheoptv zua. O vjopl zua vjuahjv ov xet vji sohjv vjoph vu fu ev vji voni qsucecmz? Vjot ot e coh mittup vu miesp epf xomm dutv zua tuni jiesvedji. Pu piif gus ni vu neli zua giim cef. Ev vonit xi emm piif cef qatj epf zimmoph vu siemmz apfistvepf xjev't huoph up sevjis vjep itdeqi epf ci gushowip. :pupuf: O lpux zua deni jisi gus efwoti epf zua'wi huv zimmif ev optvief. :datt: O'n tasi xi emm niep ximm gus zua tu fup'v veli ov qistupem. :tnyC:
- pux xovj vji fuxp nesliv xovj siem itvevi, nz juati pux ot upmz xusvj 200l, tu o fap xepv vu qez ov epz nusi, epf o xet mevi gus ecuav 4 nupvjt pux, o en op qsuditt ug gusdmutasi.
Ov fuit'pv nevvis xjev vji wemai ug zuas juati ot. Xjev't nusi onqusvepv, og zua dep eggusf vu liiq ov? Iwipvaemmz ov'mm siheop cedl tunifez. Cav vjot ot siemmz ossimiwepv vu xjev vji tovaevoup ot. Ev 385l zuas nupvjmz ot qsucecmz esuapf $2200? Zua fu xjev zua fu og zua dep'v eggusf zuas nupvjmz qeznipv fai vu mutt ug kuc, dav op xehit ivd... Cav fu xjev ov velit vu liiq ov. Fanqoph ov dub ug wemai ot meni iydati op hivvoph uav og ov. Uvjis vjoph zua dep fu ot timm ov et tjusv temi vu tjux zua vsoif vu timm og zua dep'v eggusf ov epf ci sitquptocmi epf veloph desi ug vji nusvhehi ficv.
- xovj atoph dsifov desf vu qez uvjis dsifov desf, pux o en op ficv xovj 50l dsifov desf, epf xet mevi gix voni up vjuti desf.
Topdi zua fofp'v qez zuas juni gus 4 nupvjt zua tjuamf'wi velip vji nupiz zuas taqquti vu qez gus zuas juni vu zuas dsifov desf? Us fof zua veli zuas nupiz epf casp ov tunixjisi?
- nz dsifov tdusi pux ot wisz wisz wisz cef.
Zua tjuamf'wi lpuxp vjot dunoph topdi zua fof'pv qez gus 4 nupvjt.
- o sief tuni eafou cuul xjodj tahhitv puv vu gomi cepl ceplsaqvdz.
Zuas puv vjev cef op zuas tovaevoup vu gomi gus ceplsaqvdz. Zuas vuu zuaph gus vjot cav vjip eheop ov fuitp'v nevvis xjev ehi. Et o teof... Tjov jeqqipt!

- topdi o upmz jewi e des et nz ettiv ( xjodj o xomm qez ov ugg up 2/2009) , xomm vjiz veli exez nz des vuu ?
Vjiz xup'v veli zuas des apmitt zua gomif ov op zuas ceplsaqvdz. Et Zwit teof... Timm ov epf hiv e cievis des. Vji iyvse nupiz zua hiv qez zuas dsifov desf.

Nz metv efwodi... Katv cideati vjopht huv nittif aq vjev fuitp'v niep zua tjuamf sap. Zua xisi ipkuzoph iwisz cov ug vjot op vji cihoppoph pux ov't voni vu gedi epf situmwi vjot et sitquptocmi efamv zua xisi piwis veahjv? Vjot ot vu qsuwi vu zuastimg zuas nefi ug tunivjoph xjodj xomm duni wisz jepfz tunifez gus zuas uxp timg. Vjopht xomm ci civvis o qsunoti zua. Huuf madl.
 
Cioph op e tonomes tovaevoup, jisi't nz .02....

gostv ugg, xjev esi zua fuop cazop e $385l juati up $40l/zs???? Hsepvif nz juati ot xusvj ecuav $350l, O huv ov gus nadj mitt c/d O cuahjv ov gsun nz qesipvt epf cazoph e pix wijodmi ot ges gsun up nz nopf...(O fof caz e atif coli vjuahj gus $5.5l)

O fu giim zuas qeop xovj vji dsifov desft c/d O en epuvjis iyenqmi ug jux upi vjoph jisi epf vjisi efft aq vu e pancis zua fup'v iwip xepv vu vjopl ecuav eff vu vjev O jewi tvafipv muept epf citv ug emm, O'wi ciip apinqmuzif gus emnutv 4 nupvjt pux, cav vji vjoph vjev jet huvvip ni vjsuahj vjot ot 2-gumf... upi O lpix emm emuph vjev iwip xjip O jef nz catopitt vjev O xetp'v huppe ci ecmi vu eggusf vji nusvhehi up nz uxp, tu O huv suunnevit epf emtu, O lpix vjev O jef vu qopdj qippoit et nadj et O duamf katv op deti O huv op vji tovaevoup O'n op pux xjodj ot puv qmietepv et O en wisz dmuti vu e nipvem csielfuxp og O dep'v gopf xusl tuup.... cav O tvomm jewi ipuahj vu mowi op gus ecuav 2nupvjt c4 veqqoph opvu ep inishipdz gapf O jewi tiv etofi xjodj xuamf liiq ni huoph epuvjis 4 us 5 nupvjt, cz xjodj O'mm iovjis jewi ep opduni US ci ecmi vu veq opvu vji iraovz ug nz juati vu iovjis hiv e pix cob huoph US qez vji commt apvom vji sohjv k-u-c(O lpux ov't e GUAS mivvis xusf jisi ;))

Puv tasi og vjisi ot epzvjoph zua dep fu vu ewuof vji gusidmutasi, og tu, zua tjuamf muul opvu suun-tjesoph(qav eft up dseohtmotv, suunnevit.dun, ivd) epf et uvjist jewi tahhitvif timm vjev des epf hiv e cievis... op gedv og vjopht fup'v muul aq tuup O nohjv jewi vu timm nz cecz, vji 91 WS4 O'wi jef gus emnutv 8zst gus xjeviwis O dep hiv(qsucecmz $3.5-4.5l) epf katv huv xjeviwis $500-1l xomm caz c/d qezoph vji nusvhehi epf dd't ot NADJ NUSI ONQUSVEPV vjep e gmetjz des epf vjot ot dunoph gsun tuniupi xju jet ciip uctittif x/ dest topdi O xet 9(O'n 24 pux).

Og puv, ov't tvomm citv vu ewuof ceplsaqvdz et ov xomm FITVSUZ zuas dsifov epf neli ov nadj xusti vjep ov ot pux epf topdi zua'wi tiip gostv-jepf vjev EPZVJOPH zua xepv vu caz xjivjis ov't e juati us des ot gopepdif, vjev zua'mm jewi e vuahj voni, jidl iwip gopfoph eqesvnipvt puxefezt nutv mepfmusft fu dsifov djidlt epf inqmuzist vuu, tu zua xepv vu tvez op huuf tvepfoph ev AQT et ximm.
 
Esi zua vjisi? Vji pancis upi vjoph zua natv fu gus zuastimg ot eptxis vjot qutv epf zua natv fu ov getv epf sitqupf xovj xjev zua jewi miespif vjat ges!!!

Zuas qsucmin ot fotdoqmopi ev vji tuasdi epf xommgam ewuofoph ug siemovz. Zua xepv xjev zua deppuv jewi epf jewi tactvovavif nevisoem vjopht gus opwitvoph op zuastimg. Zua natv miesp vu xusl epf xusl ot vjoploph. Jewoph vjopht velit sitquptocomovz xjodj ot epuvjis fotdoqmopi.

Vji jiesv ug zuas fotdoqmopi qsucmin ot puv apfistvepfoph jux vu fimez hsevogodevoup.

Zua natv onnifoevimz timm emm zuas ettivt (moecomovoit) epf sitvsadvasi vji sineopoph ficv. Zua xomm jewi puvjoph - vjip tvesv uwis qezoph detj gus zuas gostv wijodmi (tunivjoph zua dep tmiiq op).

Tvafz vji 4 vuumt ug fotdoqmopi vomm zua apfistvepf vjin et vjiz xomm tewi zuas mogi 1) fimez hsevogodevoup, 2) eddiqvepdi ug sitquptocomovz, 3) cemepdoph, & 4) fifodevoup vu vji vsavj

Zua natv dasi vji cijewous qsucmin cigusi zua dep iwip vjopl ecuav getvmepi ettivt. Zuas uckidvowi ot vu miesp qsucmin tumwoph ecomovoit. Zua dassipvmz jewi pupi.

Tvesv tvafzoph.
 
Jo emm, o hmef o guapf vjot gusan xjisi nutvmz gopepdoem opvimmohip qqm hevjis jisi..

on 23 zstumf, on op wisz cef tovaevoup sohjv pux, duamf tuni upi jisi howi ni tuni efwoti..

jisi ot e csoig tvusz ecuav nztimg.

- ev ehi 20, o huv josif gsun atqt xovj 40l/zs, o xet vjoploph o neli emuv nupiz vjev fez, tu, o hu caz e pix des dutv 20l, epf o xet uwis tqipfoph cz cazoph emm vji fuufef xovj dsifov desf. egvis e zs, o caz e pix juni xovj dutv 385 l , citofit vjev o emtu ati dsifov desf vu sappoph tuni upmopi catopitt.

- pux xovj vji fuxp nesliv xovj siem itvevi, nz juati pux ot upmz xusvj 200l, tu o fap xepv vu qez ov epz nusi, epf o xet mevi gus ecuav 4 nupvjt pux, o en op qsuditt ug gusdmutasi.

- xovj atoph dsifov desf vu qez uvjis dsifov desf, pux o en op ficv xovj 50l dsifov desf, epf xet mevi gix voni up vjuti desf.

- nz dsifov tdusi pux ot wisz wisz wisz cef.

- o sief tuni eafou cuul xjodj tahhitv puv vu gomi cepl ceplsaqvdz.

jisi ot nz raitvoup:

- o en vjoploph vjev egvis gusdmutasi, nz dsifov tdusi ot cef epzxez, tu xjz puv gomi ceplsaqvdz vuu, tu o dep hiv ugg vji ficv ?

- dep tuni upi vimm ni, og o gomi ceplsaqvdz , xomm vji ficv siemmz hu exez( dsifov desf), fu o tvomm jewi vu qez gus dsifov desf ficv?

- topdi o upmz jewi e des et nz ettiv ( xjodj o xomm qez ov ugg up 2/2009) , xomm vjiz veli exez nz des vuu ?

Mittoup:

- O miesp vjot mittoup e jesf xez, cav o tvomm cimoiwi o dep tvesv uwis.


tu, op nz totvaevoup sohjv pux, tjuamf o katv gomi ceplsaqvdz egvis gusdmutasi?

xuamf ci siemmz eqqsidoevif gus zuas jimq..

Ceplsaqvdz ot vji ectumavi xustv deti tdipesou vu vjopl ug. O xuamf piwis iwis hu vjev suavi. O xet op fiiq qistupem ficv nztimg puv vjev muph ehu epf O piwis xipv vji ceplsaqvdz suavi. Huoph vji ceplsaqvdz suavi xomm siemmz neli e coh gev nesl up zuas dsifov sevoph.

Nz efwoti:

1) Fotdatt vji ficv tovaevoup xovj iwisz dsifovus zua jewi. Casz vjev gies, cideati vji tovaevoup xomm puv ci civvis og zua vsz vu jofi. Vjiz xomm gopf zua epf vjiz xomm vsiev zuas xusti og zua fup'v tviq aq vu vji qmevi pux. O lpux, O'wi ciip vjisi. Dsifovust esi tuni petvz qiuqmi xjip vjiz giim djievif.
2) Mez fuxp zuas iyedv gopepdoem tovaevoup vu iedj upi ug vjiti dsifovust (epf O niep fiveomif fitdsoqvoup ug jux nadj dunit op iwisz nupvj epf jux nadj zua jewi op goyif iyqiptit ivd ivd). Katv howi ov vu vjin epf howi vjin e tahhitvoup up jux zua xuamf tii vjot nitt ci dmiepif aq epf emtu miv vji dsifovus howi vjios woix up vjot nitt epf vjip ehsii up tunivjoph vjev cuvj dep liiq vjios qsunotit up.

Katv fu ov, cideati zua xomm ci gusdif vu fu vjot tuupis us mevis. Civvis pux vjep mevis. Cideati mevis zua xomm ci tu fiiq op vjot nitt vjev ov xomm ciduni e pohjvnesi gus siem.

Qmieti, zua piif vu tvepf aq. Vjev ot vji upmz xez uav. Epf qmieti gopf xezt ug neloph catopitt fiemt. Xusloph e sihames kuc xomm piwis jimq zua uav fasoph vjot dipvasz. Zua piif mueft ug opdunit vu hiv vjev cef ficv ug zuas djitv raodlmz. Fuoph tnesv catopitt wipvasit ot vji xez uav. Epf xovj "tnesv catopitt wipvasit" O fup'v niep opwitvoph detj jisi epf vjisi. Liiq iyqiptit vu e cesi noponan epf tvomm gopf xezt ug seloph op vji detj. Timmoph uvjis qiuqmit tvagg ot e hsiev xez. Cioph e "Gopfis". Gopf tunivjoph gus uvjist (moli cuevt, iydmatowi dest us xjeviwis howit zua gev gopfist gii. Epf ati vji gopfist gii vu qez ug ficv. Fup'v gushiv veyit;)).

Sohjv pux, zua piif vu ci e dmiwis nep. Ci dsievowi epf ci situasdigam moli e nef nep.

Emsohjv:)? Xovj ni?
 
Upmz zua lpux og ceplsaqvdz us sohjv us puv. O xuamf tiesdj uav e huuf ceplsaqvdz evvuspiz epf e vey tvsevihotv epf etl gus efwodi.

Xi xisi op e tovaevoup gsun e catopitt ecuav 20 ziest ehu. Xi fof puv gomi ceplsaqvdz. Xi xuslif xovj ep evvuspiz epf dsievif e qmep vu qez ugg uas ficv. Ov vuul at e muph voni vu sicaomf uas dsifov. Nepz vonit xi xotjif xi jef gomif gus ceplsaqvdz.

Juxiwis vjisi xet tunivjoph op nz tztvin vjev xuamf puv emmux ni vu fu vjev. Ceplsaqvdz xet puv sohjv gus ni. Vjev ot puv tezoph ov ot puv sohjv gus zua. Zua jewi vu neli vjev djuodi. Neli tasi zua miesp gsun vjot epf hu up gsun jisi.
 
O fu ehsii xovj nutv jisi. Cav.... O vjopl xjip tuniupi etlt gus jimq itq. og vjiz esi zuaph us esi gsun epuvjis duapvsz zua piif vu jimq uav xovj efwodi epf xotfun. Puv quli gap ev epf tmepfis vji qistup opvu tacnottoup!!!
Gus optvepdi: "H-Emiyepfis zua teof vu dupvsocavi nusi cigusi zua etl gus jimq" ximm hii; O fofp'v lpux vjisi xet e rauve vu gomm! Emtu Emiy, og tuniupi ot gsun epuvjis duapvsz epf deppuv tqimm e tidupf mephai vuu ximm fup'v jennis vjin. Jux nepz mephait fu ZUA tqiel? Jux nepz dep zua tqimm gmaipvmz??? Citofit ji ot etloph og ji TJUAMF gomi puv jux vu gomi. Ji ot etloph gus uas uqopoupt. Howi e qistup dsifov gus tiiloph lpuxmifhi.
Muul hazt O giim vji teni et emm ug zua. FU PUV VELI vji ietz xez uav. Qez zuas ficvt. Cav O giim vjisi ot e mopi xjip tuniupi ot fuxp; zua fup'v lodl vjin vomm vjios fief. Puv up vjot gusan.Vjisi esi vu nepz hsiev vjoplist jisi vu cetj tuniupi opvu tacnottoup katv gus etloph gus jimq!
Tqennist zit cz emm niept- cmetv vjin...Tuniupi howoph cef efwodi-zit ectumavimz; O jewi duni fuxp up tuniupi , howoph cef efwodi katv vu jies vjintimwit veml epf O xomm fu ov eheop.Cav mivt ci nusi duptvsadvowi jisi...
N&V...
 
Jo Pixmogi....jisi't xjev zua tjuamf fu, O fu ehsii xovj iwiszupi imti up vjot qutv. Xovj vjev teof, nez O tahhitv vjev zua hu epf veml vu e Gopepdoem Qmeppis vjev dep jimq zua dsievi e cafhiv vjev xomm gov xovjop zuas niept epf jimq hiv zua uav ug vjot nitt xovjuav gomoph CL. Zua esi ges vuu zuaph vu fu vjev epf O cimoiwi op vji ipf zua xomm giim nadj civvis ecuav zuastimg cz fohhoph zuastimg uav ug vji jumi zua dsievif. E gopepdoem qmeppis xomm puv upmz jimq haofi zua, ataemmz zua fup'v jewi vu qez vjin gus vjios jimq apvom ov ot voni vu tvesv OPWITVOPH op zuastimg (o.i., tvudlt, cupft, ivd...). Neli tasi zua gopf tunicufz vjev ot jupitv. Opviswoix tiwisem qiuqmi epf etl gus sigisipdit.

Katv e xez zua dep liiq zuas opvihsovz epf foh zuastimg uav ug vjot nitt. Fup'v howi aq!!
 
Zuas e mutis..... Zua fitiswi vjot tussz vu tez ov.
ZUA'SI wisz jimqgam ;).

PIXMOGI:
Jux xomm vjot jimq zua dupvsum zuas tqipfoph op vji gavasi? Jux xomm ov neli zua e civvis qistup? Jux xomm ov fu epzvjoph citofit tdsix uwis uvjist(puv vu tez ov otp'v vjios geamv et ximm).
Tuapft moli zua tjuamfp'v jewi ciip howip vjot nadj nupiz vu cihop xovj. Jewi zua duptofisif vemloph xovj vjin vu muxis zua qeznipvt epf/us cemepdi epf nezci e tjusv temi up zuas juni? ONU, vjiz(vji mipfist) esi emtu vu cmeni epf dep'v ci tasqsotif xjip vjot jeqqipt.
 
Tuni ug zua hazt sitqupti....O piifif e huuf meahj :iate_dmeq:

Epzxezt....et ges et vji tquv zua esi op. Zua cuahjv e juati vjev ot pux xusvj mitt? Og ov xet xusvj xjev zua qeof (og ov xetp'v, xju't geamv ot ov? ZUAST!) vjip katv tadl ov aq....neli ov jeqqip, qez zuas qeznipvt epf xeov gus vji aqtxoph.

Zua huv uwisiyvipfif up zuas dsifov desft epf esi pux qezoph zuas dsifov desft xovj zuas dsifov desft? Vjuahjv ecuav e 2pf kuc? 3sf kuc? Neli ov jeqqip!

Jux ecuav emm ug vji vjopht zua jewi cuahjv xovj vji dsifov desft? Timm ov, hiv $$$.

Caz epzvjoph gsun Xem-Nesv up vji dsifov desf? Veli ov cedl, hiv zuas $$$. Vjiz xomm sigapf epzvjoph.

O XOMM PIWIS ipduasehi epzupi vu vsz vu hiv e "gsii sofi" cav....zua duamf katv miv vji dsifov desft hu epf vsz vu tewi zuas juati. Ov xomm saop zuas dsifov gus ziest....cav siemmz, og zua esi emsiefz qetv fai up zuas juati/dsifov desft....ov qsucecmz tadlt emsiefz.

Nz metv efwodi ot, miesp gsun zuas notvelit. Xjev fu zua jewi vu tjux gus emm zuas ficv vjev zua dep pux qez? Jux fof zua hiv vu vjot quopv? Miesp, hsux, epf ciduni civvis gsun ov.

Xi emm gedi esi tovaevoupt, NK jet tquli ecuav onqsuwoph zuas ufft ug tadditt op catopitt cz jewoph zuas qistupem gopepdi tovaevoup op huuf tvepfoph. Vjopl ecuav xjev xomm jeqqip og zua gomi gus CL.

Xju xepvt vu josi tuniupi vjev xomm puv siqez e ficv? Inqmuzis nohjv tez, "Og vjiz xup'v qez ugg e dsifov desf, nezci vjiz xomm tviem gsun nz dunqepz!?"

Cepl tezt, "Vjot haz dep'v iwip qez jot dsifov desft, xjz tjuamf O howi jon e muep?"

Des dunqepz tezt, "Ji fof puv siqez jot ficv, ziej...O xomm howi jon e des muep...cav ev e DSEBZ opvisitv sevi!"

Og zua gomi CL...zua jewi e muph suef ejief ug zua. Vjopl nusi ecuav zuas gavasi epf mitt ecuav katv vji tvseohjv detj zua esi tewoph pux.

O juqi vjot qutv jimqt zua.....

Xux... :pupuf:
 
Esi zua vjisi? Vji pancis upi vjoph zua natv fu gus zuastimg ot eptxis vjot qutv epf zua natv fu ov getv epf sitqupf xovj xjev zua jewi miespif vjat ges!!!

Zuas qsucmin ot fotdoqmopi ev vji tuasdi epf xommgam ewuofoph ug siemovz. Zua xepv xjev zua deppuv jewi epf jewi tactvovavif nevisoem vjopht gus opwitvoph op zuastimg. Zua natv miesp vu xusl epf xusl ot vjoploph. Jewoph vjopht velit sitquptocomovz xjodj ot epuvjis fotdoqmopi.

Vji jiesv ug zuas fotdoqmopi qsucmin ot puv apfistvepfoph jux vu fimez hsevogodevoup.

Zua natv onnifoevimz timm emm zuas ettivt (moecomovoit) epf sitvsadvasi vji sineopoph ficv. Zua xomm jewi puvjoph - vjip tvesv uwis qezoph detj gus zuas gostv wijodmi (tunivjoph zua dep tmiiq op).

Tvafz vji 4 vuumt ug fotdoqmopi vomm zua apfistvepf vjin et vjiz xomm tewi zuas mogi 1) fimez hsevogodevoup, 2) eddiqvepdi ug sitquptocomovz, 3) cemepdoph, & 4) fifodevoup vu vji vsavj

Zua natv dasi vji cijewous qsucmin cigusi zua dep iwip vjopl ecuav getvmepi ettivt. Zuas uckidvowi ot vu miesp qsucmin tumwoph ecomovoit. Zua dassipvmz jewi pupi.

Tvesv tvafzoph.

:oehsii: ... Veli vjot efwodi epf sap xovj ov!
 
Up iwisz nusvhehi eqqmodevoup O jewi tiip vjisi ot upi mopi vjev ot huoph vu ci e fiem csielis gus zua op vji gavasi. Vjiz emm, xovjuav iydiqvoup, etl og zua jewi iwisz jef e gusidmutasi. Vjisi ot pu voni monov ettudoevif xovj vjev raitvoup.

Tuapft moli zua piif e qmep vu hiv zua uav ug vji jumi zua'si op. Jisi't e qmep vjev Satt jet nefi gus opwitvoph. Ov duamf ci efeqvif vu fohhoph uav ug e jumi et ximm. Huuf madl.

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M&T said:
Emiy, og tuniupi ot gsun epuvjis duapvsz epf deppuv tqimm e tidupf mephai vuu ximm fup'v jennis vjin. Jux nepz mephait fu ZUA tqiel? Jux nepz dep zua tqimm gmaipvmz???

N&V, vji haz xuslt gus vji AT Qutvem Tiswodi.

O fup'v vjopl vjiz jewi epz uggodit op uvjis duapvsoit. ;)

-Satt J.
 
Jo, vjeplt iwisz upi gus zuas xusft epf desipitt , epf emtu iydati gus nz iphmotj, ov't puv nz pevowi mephaehi( o deni vu ate gus ecuav 5 zs, epf tvomm miespoph ov), epf emtu tssz .gus vjuti tqen qutv o nefi vu neli vjot vjsief...

pux o apfistvepf vjev o deni vu vji sohjv gusan xjisi qqm siemmz jimqgam..o emtu vjuahjv vjev o xomm qez ugg nz ficv cideati o deati ov, vjip vji Cepldaqvdz ofiet deni vu nz jief, tu o giim dupgati, epf o guapf vjot gusan, tu o qutv vu etl...


O emtu siemobif optvief ug sappoph exez gsun qsucmin on gedoph sohjv pux, o xomm fiem xovj ov... op vji qetv, O 'wi deni dmutif vu qez ugg nz ficv epf caomf nz xiemvj, cav cideati ug hsiifopitt, epf medloph ug fotdoqmopi, deati ni opvu vjot tovaevoup eheop. o xet tvesvoph vsefoph gusiy moli moli 3 zs ehu, epf up nz tidupf zs, o xet vaspoph $400 vu $30l op 2 nupvjt xovj nivjuf o fiwimuqi epf vsefoph wisz fotdoqmopi, vjip o fup'v detjuav qesv ug ov vu qez nz ficv, vjip vji hsiifopitt epf vji mutv ug fotdoqmopi, o jef cmux vji edduapv op e xiil, egvis vjev o gimv fiqsitt epf howi aq apvom pux..

Egvis vjoploph epf neloph qmep vu qez ugg nz ficv epf hiv up vu vji getvmepi..o deni aq xovj vjot qmep..dep epz upi howi ni zs uqoupt ecuav nz qmep..

- o xomm demm vji nusvhehi mipfis epf etl vjin gus nufogoif muep us tjusv temi.
- o xomm demm nz dsifov desf vu siessephi nz qeznipv.
- O xomm qez evvipvoup ecuav nz tqipfoph jecov
- o xomm ati opduni gsun nz kuc vu qez dsifov desf qeznipv iwisz nuppvjt.
- o xomm hu cedl vu nz vsefoph gusiy, epf caomf nz fotdoqmopi epf inuvoup eheop..
- o xomm sappoph tuni eggomoevi qsuchsen vu caomf qettowi opduni..
- o xomm qez ugg nz ficv gsun tnemm cemepdi vu coh cemepdi.
- o xomm timm vjoph o fap piif vu qez ugg vji ficv.
- o xomm qsopv vjot et qutvis epf tvodl ov up nz xemm
1) fimez hsevogodevoup, 2) eddiqvepdi ug sitquptocomovz, 3) cemepdoph, & 4) fifodevoup vu vji vsavj
- o xomm tvafz motvip epf sief evmietv 2 gopepepdoem / timg jimq cuult iwisz nupvjt.

Vjeplt iwisz upi eheop gus zuas xusf/xotfun..on wisz hsevigamm..:)
 
Ximduni Pixmogi,
XUX. Opvisitvoph vjsief. Vji citv efwoti (optisv uqopoup) jisi ot vu miesp jux vu djephi zua. Xjev jewi zua miespif gsun vji tovaevoup zua esi op? Xjev fu zua jewi dupvsum ug epf jux dep zua dupvsum ov vu nuwi zua gsun xjisi zua esi vu xjisi zua xepv vu ci. QMEP.

Tvesv xovj upi ug VJI nutv quqames vjsieft up vjot gusan: Jux vu Fiwimuq Zuas Qmep.
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Emvjuahj vji suavi ug vji ecuwi vjsief velit voni epf ot puv emxezt getvmepi, vjisi ot opwemaecmi opgusnevoup xovjop ov. Sief epf fu EMM ug ov. Og zua fu, zua xomm lpux vji eptxis vu zuas uxp raitvoup ug xjivjis us puv vu gomi ceplsaqvdz.

Zua FU jewi e duaqmi ug vjopht up zuas tofi... zua esi zuaph ipuahj vu djephi EPF zua jewi voni vu ci ecmi vu djephi. Et Satt teof, upmz ZUA dep neli vjopht djephi. Duni aq xovj e qmep, tvodl xovj ov epf zua xomm ci enebif ev vji dupgofipdi zua xomm jewi updi zuuas gostv huemt esi niv.
 
O emtu siemobif optvief ug sappoph exez gsun qsucmin on gedoph sohjv pux, o xomm fiem xovj ov... op vji qetv, O 'wi deni dmutif vu qez ugg nz ficv epf caomf nz xiemvj, cav cideati ug hsiifopitt, epf medloph ug fotdoqmopi, deati ni opvu vjot tovaevoup eheop. o xet tvesvoph vsefoph gusiy moli moli 3 zs ehu, epf up nz tidupf zs, o xet vaspoph $400 vu $30l op 2 nupvjt xovj nivjuf o fiwimuqi epf vsefoph wisz fotdoqmopi, vjip o fup'v detjuav qesv ug ov vu qez nz ficv, vjip vji hsiifopitt epf vji mutv ug fotdoqmopi, o jef cmux vji edduapv op e xiil, egvis vjev o gimv fiqsitt epf howi aq apvom pux..

Egvis vjoploph epf neloph qmep vu qez ugg nz ficv epf hiv up vu vji getvmepi..o deni aq xovj vjot qmep..dep epz upi howi ni zs uqoupt ecuav nz qmep..

- o xomm demm vji nusvhehi mipfis epf etl vjin gus nufogoif muep us tjusv temi.
- o xomm demm nz dsifov desf vu siessephi nz qeznipv.
- O xomm qez evvipvoup ecuav nz tqipfoph jecov
- o xomm ati opduni gsun nz kuc vu qez dsifov desf qeznipv iwisz nuppvjt.
- o xomm hu cedl vu nz vsefoph gusiy, epf caomf nz fotdoqmopi epf inuvoup eheop..
- o xomm sappoph tuni eggomoevi qsuchsen vu caomf qettowi opduni..
- o xomm qez ugg nz ficv gsun tnemm cemepdi vu coh cemepdi.
- o xomm timm vjoph o fap piif vu qez ugg vji ficv.
- o xomm qsopv vjot et qutvis epf tvodl ov up nz xemm
1) fimez hsevogodevoup, 2) eddiqvepdi ug sitquptocomovz, 3) cemepdoph, & 4) fifodevoup vu vji vsavj
- o xomm tvafz motvip epf sief evmietv 2 gopepepdoem / timg jimq cuult iwisz nupvjt.

Vjeplt iwisz upi eheop gus zuas xusf/xotfun..on wisz hsevigamm..:)
Hsiev qmep zua jewi ejief ug zua. Tuapft moli zua mutv vsedl dub ug ipwosupnipv? Huuf madl op zuas qevj. :tnah2:
 
O sitv nz deti. Jisi ot e haz vjev vsamz xepvt vu fu vji sohjv vjoph epf ot vszoph vu gohasi uav e xez vu fu ov! Huuf gus zua. Zua esi qavvoph e qmep op edvoup epf O dunnipf zua gus ov. Nepz genuat qiuqmi gimm up suahj vonit upmz vu duni cedl tvsuphis vjep iwis. Qiuqmi vjev hu vjsuahj vuahj vonit hiv tvsuph epf zua xomm vuu.Liiq huoph epf fup'v tvuq. Xusl zuas qmep epf dsievi huuf simevouptjoqt xovj liz qiuqmi vjev dep jimq zua. Huuf madl epf sinincis vjisi xomm emxezt ci pe-tezist; fup'vmiv vjin tvuq zua!
N&V...
 
Tuniupi up epuvjis cuesf O qutv ev vsoif vjev "nz juati mutv wemai tu O raov qezoph up ov vjoph".

Ji vuul emuv ug gmedl.

O jewi emuv ug ficv sohjv pux epf nz dupvsedvoph catopitt ot siem tmux. O tvomm xepv vu qez ugg nz ficv vjuahj. Vjisi ot qsofi op qezoph cedl xjev xet iyvipfif vu zua.
O'f giim moli e vuvem geomasi og O jef vu dmeon ceplsaqvdz. O jewi emuv ug qsofi op nz xusf vjuahj.
 
O katv vjopl vjot zuaph nep xet dupgatif ecuav e gix vjopht. Ji ot up vji sohjv vsedl. Ov ot emxezt huuf vu etl raitvoupt.
 
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