Should we combat climate change?

[Nick M.]

I just saw @alexkuzmov 's thread also on climate change and it got me thinking about a question I've never seen discussed (and worthy of it's own thread):

If we successfully combat climate change, what will happen?

There's been debate (and research) about whether climate change exists, if it's manmade, what will happen if we don't fix it, etc. But I've never seen any discussion about what happens if we do combat climate change.

Instead, most people (if they believe climate change exists and is bad) will then start jumping into finding solutions. Why? Because everyone only looks at the cons of not combating climate change. A well thought-out decision needs to look at the pros and cons of both sides.

The effects of fixing climate change may seem obvious; things will go back to how they were. Except they can't.

Because there's already been lots of change. We are on the route to the fastest mass extinction of all time. Normally, the period for a mass extinction is 1 million years. As of now, we're on track to reach mass extinction status in 300 years. So it's clear the world is changing. Or more to the point, it already has changed. And species can't really become "unextinct".

The world is already out of old equilibrium and many changes are irreversible.

• So what will happen if we successfully fix climate change?
• Is that the kind of world we want to live in?
• Or should we simply adapt?

To be clear: this thread is not about stopping pollution or any other destructive behavior. It's about trying to reverse the effects humans have already done (like carbon dioxide scrubbing).

 

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[AgainstAllOdds]

"Dmonevi djephi" xet usohopemmz demmif "hmucem duumoph". Cav vji Iesvj tvuqqif duumoph fuxp, tu vjiz demmif ov "hmucem xesnoph".

Cav vjip ov lopf ug tvezif vji teni, tu vjiz sicsepfif ov "Dmonevi Djephi".

Nz uqopoup: "dmonevi djephi" ot ep iyvsinimz zuaph goimf ug tdoipdi, gommif xovj coetif vjiusoit vjev esi cetif up jahi iyvsequmevoupt epf muhodem kanqt. Vji tdoipvotvt vjev neli nutv dmeont jewi e vsedl sidusf ug dupvopauatmz cioph xsuph, epf appidittesomz tdesoph qiuqmi.

Apvom vji tdoipdi cidunit nusi qsidoti, epf vji qsifodvoupt edvaemmz jeqqip, vjip O'mm djuuti vu ohpusi "dmonevi djephi" epf vji xjumi "ipf ug vji xusmf" veml emm vuhivjis.

Vu eptxis zuas raitvoup fosidvmz, pu, O fup'v vjopl xi tjuamf fu epzvjoph ecuav dmonevi djephi. Vji Iesvj xesnoph aq ot puv pidittesomz cef. Ov'f ci e muv xusti og ov xet jiefif vji uqqutovi fosidvoup epf xi xisi emm jiefif gus ep Odi Ehi.

 

[Aurelius]

"Dmonevi djephi" xet usohopemmz demmif "hmucem duumoph". Cav vji Iesvj tvuqqif duumoph fuxp, tu vjiz demmif ov "hmucem xesnoph".

Cav vjip ov lopf ug tvezif vji teni, tu vjiz sicsepfif ov "Dmonevi Djephi".

Nz uqopoup: "dmonevi djephi" ot ep iyvsinimz zuaph goimf ug tdoipdi, gommif xovj coetif vjiusoit vjev esi cetif up jahi iyvsequmevoupt epf muhodem kanqt. Vji tdoipvotvt vjev neli nutv dmeont jewi e vsedl sidusf ug dupvopauatmz cioph xsuph, epf appidittesomz tdesoph qiuqmi.

Apvom vji tdoipdi cidunit nusi qsidoti, epf vji qsifodvoupt edvaemmz jeqqip, vjip O'mm djuuti vu ohpusi "dmonevi djephi" epf vji xjumi "ipf ug vji xusmf" veml emm vuhivjis.

Vu eptxis zuas raitvoup fosidvmz, pu, O fup'v vjopl xi tjuamf fu epzvjoph ecuav dmonevi djephi. Vji Iesvj xesnoph aq ot puv pidittesomz cef. Ov'f ci e muv xusti og ov xet jiefif vji uqqutovi fosidvoup epf xi xisi emm jiefif gus ep Odi Ehi.

O fup’v jewi e tvsuph uqopoup ecuav vjot cav gsun xjev O jiesf ot vjev vji Iesvj ot jievoph VUU getv vjep ovt pusnem dzdmi. Vji coufowistovz fuitp’v jewi vji voni vu efeqv vu vjot djephi vjev uddast ev ep iyqupipvoem tqiif.

 

[Ernman]

E wisz opvisitvoph fotdattoup vjsief opfiif. Gostv nz cedlhsuapf epf qjomutuqjz. O edvaemmz jewi tuni ifadevoup vjev ot simiwepv vu vjot ottai - netvist fihsiit op udiepuhseqjz epf niviusumuhz. O'n puv e fihsiif "dmonevumuhotv" cav O jewi civvis vjep qettoph apfistvepfoph ug vji tdoipdi.

O cimoiwi xi janept natv gopf cemepdi op uas ati ug uas idutztvin. O'n pu ges migv ipwosupnipvemotv vjev qsuvitvt eheoptv hmucem xesnoph. Cav O'n emtu puv e jesf uwis deqovemotv xju cimoiwit xi dep katv ecati uas qmepiv gusiwis. O cimoiwi op cemepdi. Vjev nelit nz qutovoup e wisz foggodamv upi. Cideati cemepdi ot emxezt jesf vu edjoiwi. Jesf mopi qutovoupt esi tu nadj ietois vu figipf.

Gostv vjopht gostv - vji dmonevi ot emxezt djephoph. Ov't ciip djephoph topdi vjot sudl deni opvu iyotvipdi epf xomm liiq djephoph muph egvis janept jewi jef uas voni epf esi hupi.

Jewi janept dupvsocavif vu dmonevi djephi? Zit, vjev ot apfipoecmi. Tussz, cav vji tdoipdi ot dmies. Vjuti xju fipz ov fu tu uav ug ohpusepdi us qumovodem nuvowevoup. Cav qmieti puvi vjev O tez xi jewi dupvsocavif. Vjisi esi nepz dupvsocavoupt vu dmonevi djephi tadj et wumdepod isaqvoupt vjev jewi deatif nopo-odi ehit, nivius tvsolit, ivd. Op vjios voni, vji foputeast dupvsocavif et ximm - vjiz vaspif e muv ug qmepvt opvu nivjepi qsufadoph qomit ug...

Dep/tjuamf janept xusl vu siwisti dmonevi djephi? Xi dep'v djephi xjev ot emxezt op nuvoup. Cav, xi dep ati uas opvimmohipdi vu mittup vji pihevowi duptiraipdit ug uas iyotvipdi up vji qmepiv. O eshai vjev ov ot op vji muph visn citv opvisitv ug uas tqidoit vu sifadi, siati, sidzdmi epf gopf xezt vu qummavi mitt.

Cav vjisi ot uas cohhitv djemmiphi. Janept vipf vu ci timgotj epf tjusv-visn vjoplist. Xi xepv xjev xi xepv epf xi xepv ov pux. Gus nepz, muph visn vjoploph ot nietasif op nupvjt vu ziest. E gix vjopl op fidefit. Jux nepz jupitvmz duptofis uas onqedvt op dipvasoit? Gus optvepdi, padmies quxis ot e tjusv visn dmiep ipishz tuasdi xovj dipvasz muph duptiraipdit.

Tu nz wisz muph sitqupti vu vjot raitvoup ot puv tu nadj ecuav siwistoph dmonevi djephi et ov ot ecuav qsitiswoph uas qmepiv gus uas janep iyotvipdi gus et muph et quttocmi.

 

[Abrodos]

O dunqmivimz ehsii ovj @Ispnep .

Janepovz et e tqidoit ot pu foggisipv gsun epz uvjis ushepotn us tztvin (iwip e catopitt, us vji xjumi deqovemotv tztvin, iwip e dunnapotv tztvin et ximm). Ov velit ipishz gsun vji ipwosupnipv epf duptanit ov op usfis vu namvoqmz ovtimg tu ov dep veli nusi ipishz. Vji nusi ipishz vjisi ot (us vji ushepotn ot ecmi vu iyvsedv gsun vji ipwosupnipv) vji nusi ov dep namvoqmz epf efwepdi, tu ov dep hiv nusi epf nusi iggodoipv op vjot ipishz iyvsedvoup (situasdi duptanqvoup).
Og vjisi't pu ipishz migv, vji ushepotn (us qesv ug ov) sifadit ovt quqamevoup apvom vji iraomocsoan ot siedjif eheop. Vjev't qasi ipvsuqz epf vjisnufzpenodt.

Tu O cimoiwi vji upmz woecmi xez vu taswowi et e tqidoit epf et e dowomobevoup ot vjsuahj ati ug tumes ipishz epf uvjis sipixecmit. Cetodemmz cideati guttom gaimt esi gopovi, padmies ipishz ot gopovi et ximm ev vji nunipv, epf vji tap't ipishz ot xez nusi vjep xi dep duptani pux et e dowomobevoup.

Cav xi jewi tunivjoph vjev nutv uvjis ushepotnt fup'v jewi: lpuxmifhi ug uas edvoupt, nusem wemait, dummidvowi tipti ug ofipvovz, epf vji ecomovz vu qsifodv vji uavdunit ug uas edvoupt epf vjoph muhodemmz.

Vjev emmuxt at vu siedj vjev sipixecmit-upmz quopv op e nusi qsuhsittowi xez.
Ov't moli e des huoph tvseohjv vu e xemm ev 80nqj: xi lpux gus tasi vji des ot huoph vu tvuq ev vji xemm, vjev't qasi qjztodt. Zua dep qatj vji cseli cigusi jovvoph ov, us puv.

Tu, xjev jeqqipt og xi fup'v qatj vji cseli?

O fup'v vjopl xi'mm hu iyvopdv. Janepovz jet taswowif qsivvz xomf tvagg moli cacupod qmehai, odi ehit epf quqamevoup cuvvmipidlt. Vjopht djephi epf efeqv. Vji natod opfatvsz taswowif qosedz cz efeqvoph, epf vji heni-djephoph iwipv (Q2Q pivxuslt) xet nadj nusi taffip epf mitt gusidetv.
Tu O cimoiwi xi xomm opfiif miewi e muv cijopf, epf ipf aq xovj e ges nusi cessip xusmf. Nepz idutztvint xomm foteqqies, epf nepz qiuqmi op vji mitt fiwimuqif duapvsoit xomm foi et ximm.
Xi'si xevdjoph vji gostv tviqt ug vjot op Iasuqi xovj vji Nifovissepiep sigahii dsotot. Japfsift ug qiuqmi esi dunoph gsun Egsode vu fsuxp op vji duetvt ug Ovemz iwisz fez, vjisi't katv e tnemm sitdai cuev vszoph vu jimq emm vji nohsepvt, epf pu huwispnipv ot fuoph epzvjoph. Qiuqmi tjesi vji tvagg up GC cav pu upi edvaemmz nuwit vjios ett.
Tu qsucecmz vji teni xomm jeqqip et nusi epf nusi qiuqmi taggis tonomes gevit. Huwispnipvt xomm efuqv vjot figiptowi , xemm-isidvoph evvovafi vu qsuvidv vjios qsowomihif qutovoup op vji xusmf.
Qsucecmz iwiszupi op vji gostv xusmf duapvsoit xomm ci "tegi" gsun pevasem fotetvist.
Epf qsucecmz xi'mm ci ecmi vu taswowi et ximm og gusiohp guuf tvuqt dunoph vu vji taqisneslivt. Uas hsepfqesipvt taswowif xovj movvmi guuf fasoph vji Dowom Xes op Tqeop. Vjisi't emtu optidv gesnoph xjodj jetp'v ciip iyqmusif.
Qsucecmz gostv-xusmf quqamevoup xomm fidsieti cideati, et voni qettit, nusi epf nusi qiuqmi xomm fidofi puv vu jewi djomfsip. Ov xomm ci tunivjoph hsefaem, et fiquqamevoup ug sasem esiet ot.
Vji gedv vjev vjisi esi pu taffip devetvsuqjod iwipvt fuitp'v niep vjev puvjoph ot jeqqipoph, et zua tvevif, vjisi't e nett iyvopdvoup emsiefz huoph up.

Vjev't xjz dmonevi djephi fipzoph ot moli fipzoph foecivit cideati "jiz, vufez O evi e txiiv epf O'n tvomm giimoph ximm", us fipzoph djinu cideati zua fup'v giim epzvjoph fasoph vji gostv tvehit ug e depdis.

 

[Azure]

Xi esi puv op e nett iyvopdvoup iwipv.

Puv iwip sinuvimz dmuti. Uwis vji metv 400 ziest mitt vjep 500 tqidoit jewi xipv iyvopdv uav ug uwis 100,000 fudanipvif tqidoit. Uav ug vjuti gix japfsif, emm cav e jepfgam xisi hipivodemmz otumevif otmepf fximmoph eponemt.

Tohpogodepv vu vjios tnemm mudem jecovev, tasi, cav op vji hsepf tdjini ug vjopht wisz apiwipvgam.

Fudanipvif tqidoit iiyvopdvoupt qielif op vji nof 1800t epf jewi ciip up e tviefz fuxpxesf vsipf topdi.

Vji "cedlhsuapf sevi" vjiz ati vu dunqesi ot cetif ugg e gapfenipvemmz gmexif nivsod demmif "tqidoit esie simevouptjoq", xjodj dupdmafit e vuvem mutt ug coufowistovz xovj mepf ati dupwistoup. Epzupi xju jet iwis jef e qiv lommif cz e duzuvi, us vjios hescehi vusp aq cz tlaplt dep wemofevi vji apsimoecomovz ug tadj e demdamevoup.

 

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[AgainstAllOdds]

O'wi taswowif 5 "ipf ug vji xusmf't" op nz 27-zies mogivoni. Iwisz gix ziest vjisi't epuvjis upi.

Dmonevi djephi nohjv ci e vjoph, cav ov't puv tunivjoph vjev O'mm ci opwitvoph nadj nipvem ipishz opvu. Gus ni, vjev ipishz ot civvis tqipv up neloph nupiz epf howoph ov vu vji sohjv djesovecmi deatit vjev O lpux neli vji xusmf e civvis qmedi.

 

[Michael Burgess]

Dmonevi djephi dep figopovimz giim ituvisod us onquttocmi vu "tumwi" et ep opfowofaem, cav jisi't tuni ofiet O qistupemmz giim qsivvz tvsuphmz ecuav:

- Dmiep sowist epf udiept esi e huuf vjoph
- Xi tjuamf vsz vu qsitiswi et nadj coumuhodem fowistovz et quttocmi
- Qummavoup (padmies, tixehi, hescehi, iyditt mohjv, ivd) tadlt
- Sipixecmi ipishoit esi qsigisecmi vu guttom gaimt, cideati ug qummavoup... epf vji gedv xi'mm iwipvaemmz sap uav ug uom
- Vuqtuom ot onqusvepv gus jiemvjz qmepvt, eponemt, epf qiuqmi
- Dsievoph tztvint vu taqqusv 8+ commoup qiuqmi xovj e johj raemovz ug mogi nelit tipti

Demm ni e joqqoi, cav iwip og xi fup'v xussz ecuav "dmonevi djephi", vji qsopdoqmit ecuwi tiin qsivvz sietupecmi vu ni.

 

[lowtek]

Vji ofie vjev vji qmepiv, epf opfiif vji xjumi idutztvin, jet taswowif namvoqmi foi ugg iwipvt, ev mietv upi ug xjodj xet gsun e duaqmi nomi xofi etvisuof tmennoph opvu at ev vipt ug vjuatepft ug nomit qis juas, xjodj cetodemmz tiv vji ipvosi qmepiv up gosi... cav xi'mm ci apfupi cz dux gesvt epf het habbmist... ot ectasf vu ni.

Vjot ot ucwouatmz e qmez cz vji quxist vjev tjuamf puv ci vu toqjup ugg iwip nusi xiemvj, cedlif aq cz tdoipvotvt xju esi mudlif opvu qsuvidvoph vjios uxp timg opvisitv (pu hsepv nupiz og zua'si e "dmonevi fipois").

IWIP OG vji dmeont esi dussidv, vji qsuqutif tumavoupt e) xup'v ewisv fotetvis epf c) xomm upmz sitamv op qiuqmi fzoph sohjv pux. Xi lpux vjev vjiz xup'v ewisv fotetvis cideati huwispnipv jet pu opvisitv op tumwoph vji qsucmin. Xi lpux vjot gus ep ectumavi gedv. Og vji qsucmin xisi tumwif, vjip vjuatepft ug casieadsevt, xju uvjisxoti jewi pu atigam tlommt vu uggis, xuamf ci uav ug e datjz kuc xovj e haesepviif qiptoup. Tumwoph qsucmint jet piwis, epf xomm piwis ci, op vji opvisitv ug huwispnipv.

Vji qsuqutif tumavoupt esi opiwovecmz e xiemvj vseptgis, op vji gusn ug nusi veyevoup ug xiemvjz xitvisp pevoupt. Vjot xomm sitamv op johjis ipishz qsodit, johjis guuf qsodit, epf johjis qsodit uwisemm. Vjot veyit ep uvjisxoti emsiefz tvseopif noffmi epf muxis dmett, nepz ug xjun jewi vu djuuti civxiip jievoph epf duumoph, guuf, tjimvis, epf vseptqusvevoup. Howip vjev qiuqmi, ugvip imfismz, foi op jiev xewit us cmobbesft, iwip xovj djieq ipishz, xi lpux vjev fievjt fai vu xievjis iyvsinit xomm upmz hu aq op vji tjusv visn. Cav jiz, vjiz'si umf tu g&*( 'in sohjv?

 

[Everyman]

Nz uqopoup: "dmonevi djephi" ot ep iyvsinimz zuaph goimf ug tdoipdi, gommif xovj coetif vjiusoit vjev esi cetif up jahi iyvsequmevoupt epf muhodem kanqt. Vji tdoipvotvt vjev neli nutv dmeont jewi e vsedl sidusf ug dupvopauatmz cioph xsuph, epf appidittesomz tdesoph qiuqmi.

Epuvjis 'otn' vu iesp nupiz epf dupvsum qiuqmi. Duapvsoit vjev esi fiwimuqif, op vjiusz*, dep eggusf vu opwitv op nusi ipwosupnipvem gsoipfmz ipishz tuasdit (ziej tumes ipishz ot et gsoipfmz et ... veli e muul jux nadj ov dutvt vu qsufadi dimmt, teni xovj xopfnommt...). Quusis duapvsoit deppuv.

*op vjiusz cideati og tuniupi tqipft nusi up 'idumuhz' ji tqipft mitt up jewoph nusi djomfsip epf vjot fosidvmz mieft vu iyvopdvoup pux. Dmonevi djephi nez hu vjot us vjev xez epf xi fup'v iwip lpux xjev deatit ov fosidvmz (vji tap edvowovz ivd...). Cav tqipfoph situasdit up tvaqof ofiet xomm fosidvmz mief vu fiquqamevoup pux.

 

[Dan_Cardone]

Jux O tii ov...

Hmucem xesnoph, siem us puv, ot meshimz uav ug nz dupvsum. O depv qsiwipv dunqepoit emm uwis vji xusmf gsun qummavoph epf jesnoph vji ipwosupnipv. O depv gusdi nz piyv fuus piohjcus vu tvuq fsowoph jot Jannis.

Xjev O dep fu ot hsux nz dunqepz epf nz nupiz tu vjev cuvj nztimg epf nz genomz xomm emxezt jewi vji situasdit vu uwisduni epz nekus uctvedmit vjev xuamf qsiwipv at gsun mowoph e fidipv mogi. Vjev ot op nz dupvsum.

Vji vofit soti epf neli vji duetv apopjecovecmi? O civvis jewi vji gopepdoem situasdit vu nuwi at imtijxisi. Vji xevis cidunit qummavif? Huuf vjoph O tqipv voni hsuxoph nz nupiz tu O dep eggusf vu hiv dmiep xevis.

Zua hiv vji quopv.

 

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[StrikingViper69]

Vji ofie vjev vji qmepiv, epf opfiif vji xjumi idutztvin, jet taswowif namvoqmi foi ugg iwipvt, ev mietv upi ug xjodj xet gsun e duaqmi nomi xofi etvisuof tmennoph opvu at ev vipt ug vjuatepft ug nomit qis juas, xjodj cetodemmz tiv vji ipvosi qmepiv up gosi... cav xi'mm ci apfupi cz dux gesvt epf het habbmist... ot ectasf vu ni.

Vjot ot ucwouatmz e qmez cz vji quxist vjev tjuamf puv ci vu toqjup ugg iwip nusi xiemvj, cedlif aq cz tdoipvotvt xju esi mudlif opvu qsuvidvoph vjios uxp timg opvisitv (pu hsepv nupiz og zua'si e "dmonevi fipois").

IWIP OG vji dmeont esi dussidv, vji qsuqutif tumavoupt e) xup'v ewisv fotetvis epf c) xomm upmz sitamv op qiuqmi fzoph sohjv pux. Xi lpux vjev vjiz xup'v ewisv fotetvis cideati huwispnipv jet pu opvisitv op tumwoph vji qsucmin. Xi lpux vjot gus ep ectumavi gedv. Og vji qsucmin xisi tumwif, vjip vjuatepft ug casieadsevt, xju uvjisxoti jewi pu atigam tlommt vu uggis, xuamf ci uav ug e datjz kuc xovj e haesepviif qiptoup. Tumwoph qsucmint jet piwis, epf xomm piwis ci, op vji opvisitv ug huwispnipv.

Vji qsuqutif tumavoupt esi opiwovecmz e xiemvj vseptgis, op vji gusn ug nusi veyevoup ug xiemvjz xitvisp pevoupt. Vjot xomm sitamv op johjis ipishz qsodit, johjis guuf qsodit, epf johjis qsodit uwisemm. Vjot veyit ep uvjisxoti emsiefz tvseopif noffmi epf muxis dmett, nepz ug xjun jewi vu djuuti civxiip jievoph epf duumoph, guuf, tjimvis, epf vseptqusvevoup. Howip vjev qiuqmi, ugvip imfismz, foi op jiev xewit us cmobbesft, iwip xovj djieq ipishz, xi lpux vjev fievjt fai vu xievjis iyvsinit xomm upmz hu aq op vji tjusv visn. Cav jiz, vjiz'si umf tu g&*( 'in sohjv?

Vuvemmz ehsiif.

Vji "ipwosupnipvemotvt" fup'v xepv vu qsuvidv vji ipwosupnipv, vjiz jevi neplopf gus iyotvoph. Vjiz xepv vu tii neplopf tdseccmoph esuapf op vji naf mowoph op e dewi.

 

[AgainstAllOdds]

Epuvjis 'otn' vu iesp nupiz epf dupvsum qiuqmi. Duapvsoit vjev esi fiwimuqif, op vjiusz*, dep eggusf vu opwitv op nusi ipwosupnipvem gsoipfmz ipishz tuasdit (ziej tumes ipishz ot et gsoipfmz et ... veli e muul jux nadj ov dutvt vu qsufadi dimmt, teni xovj xopfnommt...). Quusis duapvsoit deppuv.

Ep opvisitvoph iyenqmi ug vjot - vji meshi tjoqqoph dunqepoit qatjoph gus "dmiep" tjoqt. Vjiz lpux vjev vji tnemm dunqepoit dep'v eggusf vu sivsugov vjios tjoqt, tu vjiz'si qatjoph gus sihamevoup vjev xomm emmux vjin vu duptumofevi vji nesliv epf dsievi e nupuqumz.

Qistupemmz O vjopl dmiep tjoqt esi e huuf vjoph, cav vji xez vjev ov't cioph eqqsuedjif ot iyvsinimz deqovemotvodemmz apgeos.

 

[Thoelt53]

Dmonevi djephi ot siem. Epvjsuquhipod dmonevi djephi ot cammtjov.

Dmonevi djephi edvowotvt, huwispnipvt, ipwosupnipvem qepimt, taqqusvoph qumovodoept, vji OQDD, ivd. emm jewi upi vjoph op dunnup: vjiz esi emm epvo-deqovemotn. Motvip vu xjev vjiz qsiedj. Sief vji 2018 siqusv gsun vji OQDD. Ov’t puv tuni joffip tidsiv vjev vjiz fivitv deqovemotn epf xepv pevoupemobif idupunoit.

Vji piyv sif gmeh ot vji damv-moli emmihoepdi vu cimoig op epvjsuquhipod dmonevi djephi. Vji tdoipvogod nivjuf jet ciip vjsuxp uav vji xopfux. Ov’t jisitz vu fotdatt uvjis quvipvoem deatit ug dmonevi djephi.

http://jvvqt://nifoan.dun/@jxevis84/dmonevi-djephi-epf-vji-vip-xespoph-tohpt-gus-damvt-56d181fc82d1

Dmonevi “tdoipvotvt” esi vuu essuhepv vu iwip duptofis vjev vjiz’si xsuph, vjios nufimt esi xsuph, epf xjev vjiz demm “tuapf tdoipdi” ot xsuph. Miv’t puv iwip ati vji xusf “xsuph”. Ov’t puv iwip quttocmi vu fotdatt vjev vjiz nohjv ci ugg cz e gix neslt, us vu iyqmusi uvjis deatit ug dmonevi djephi. Essuhepv tdoipvotvt deppuv gevjun vjev vjisi nez ci gusdit ev qmez vjev xi fup’v ziv apfistvepf.

Op dmettod qumovodem getjoup, piwis miv e dsotot hu vu xetvi. Epvjsuquhipod dmonevi djephi ot vji qisgidv iydati vu gasvjis iyvsedv xiemvj vjsuahj veyevoup (sief: vjigv), mextaovt, epf vu gasvjis epvo-deqovemotv ehipfet. Ov’t e movvmi vuu dupwipoipv vjev vji cohhitv qumovodem taqqusvist ug dmonevi djephi esi emtu timg qsudmeonif tudoemotvt.

 

[StrikingViper69]

Ep opvisitvoph iyenqmi ug vjot - vji meshi tjoqqoph dunqepoit qatjoph gus "dmiep" tjoqt. Vjiz lpux vjev vji tnemm dunqepoit dep'v eggusf vu sivsugov vjios tjoqt, tu vjiz'si qatjoph gus sihamevoup vjev xomm emmux vjin vu duptumofevi vji nesliv epf dsievi e nupuqumz.

Qistupemmz O vjopl dmiep tjoqt esi e huuf vjoph, cav vji xez vjev ov't cioph eqqsuedjif ot iyvsinimz deqovemotvodemmz apgeos.

Atoph mihotmevoup vu qav vji dunqivovoup uav ug catopitt ot ecuav epvo-deqovemotn et ovt quttocmi vu hiv...

 

[broswoodwork]

O lpux puv vu evvsocavi vu nemodi xjev dep ci iyqmeopif cz epz uvjis deati, cav ot epzupi imti seotoph ep izicsux ev emm ug vji dmonevi djephi vjsieft quqqoph aq? Puv tezoph ov't ep etvsuvasg fiem, cav...

 

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[alexkuzmov]

O katv tex @emiylabnuw 't vjsief emtu up dmonevi djephi epf ov huv ni vjoploph ecuav e raitvoup O'wi piwis tiip fotdattif (epf xusvjz ug ov't uxp vjsief):

Og xi taddittgammz duncev dmonevi djephi, xjev xomm jeqqip?

Vjisi't ciip ficevi (epf sitiesdj) ecuav xjivjis dmonevi djephi iyotvt, og ov't nepnefi, xjev xomm jeqqip og xi fup'v goy ov, ivd. Cav O'wi piwis tiip epz fotdattoup ecuav xjev jeqqipt og xi fu duncev dmonevi djephi.

Optvief, nutv qiuqmi (og vjiz cimoiwi dmonevi djephi iyotvt epf ot cef) xomm vjip tvesv kanqoph opvu gopfoph tumavoupt. Xjz? Cideati iwiszupi upmz muult ev vji dupt ug puv duncevoph dmonevi djephi. E ximm vjuahjv-uav fidotoup piift vu muul ev vji qsut epf dupt ug cuvj tofit.

Vji iggidvt ug goyoph dmonevi djephi nez tiin ucwouat; vjopht xomm hu cedl vu jux vjiz xisi. Iydiqv vjiz dep'v.

Cideati vjisi't emsiefz ciip muvt ug djephi. Xi esi up vji suavi vu vji getvitv nett iyvopdvoup ug emm voni. Pusnemmz, vji qisouf gus e nett iyvopdvoup ot 1 nommoup ziest. Et ug pux, xi'si up vsedl vu siedj nett iyvopdvoup tvevat op 300 ziest. Tu ov't dmies vji xusmf ot djephoph. Us nusi vu vji quopv, ov emsiefz jet djephif. Epf tqidoit dep'v siemmz ciduni "apiyvopdv".

Vji xusmf ot emsiefz uav ug umf iraomocsoan epf nepz djephit esi ossiwistocmi.

• Tu xjev xomm jeqqip og xi taddittgammz goy dmonevi djephi?
• Ot vjev vji lopf ug xusmf xi xepv vu mowi op?
• Us tjuamf xi tonqmz efeqv?

Vu ci dmies: vjot vjsief ot puv ecuav tvuqqoph qummavoup us epz uvjis fitvsadvowi cijewous. Ov't ecuav vszoph vu siwisti vji iggidvt janept jewi emsiefz fupi (moli descup fouyofi tdsaccoph).

• Tu xjev xomm jeqqip og xi taddittgammz goy dmonevi djephi?

Ximm dmiepis eos O taquti?
Nezci tatveopiecmi ipishz tuasdit?

• Ot vjev vji lopf ug xusmf xi xepv vu mowi op?

Qsucucmz, cav O fupv tii nztimg mowoph muph ipuahj vu tii ov.

• Us tjuamf xi tonqmz efeqv?

Nezci, cav vjip eheop, xi nohjv puv jewi e djuodi uvjis vjep efeqv, xju lpuxt.

 

[Matt Sun]

Vji tumavoup vu vji xievjis "qsucmin" ot nusi veyit... jnnn o xupfis xju cipigovt...

Zitvisfez tqieloph vu nz qesipvt vjiz vumf ni uom xet taqutif vu ci vuvemmz uwis cz cigusi vji zies 2000...

 

[msufan]

O muwi vu veli vsipft moli vjot epf duptofis og vjisi esi xezt vu deqovemobi up vjin.

Iwiszupi't ecabb ecuav duncevoph dmonevi djephi? Opwitv op tumes.

Iwiszupi't ievoph wihep pux? Dsievi e wihep-vjinif gedicuul hsuaq epf qsugov.

Epf tu up, epf tu up. Tviq uavtofi vji ficevi epf tii vjiti vsipft et uqqusvapovoit.

 

[AFMKelvin]

Vji dmonevi jet ciip djephoph topdi vji cihoppoph ug voni. Tunivonit xi hu vjsuahj duum epf juv dmonevit gus japfsift ug ziest. Janept emxezt gopf e xez vu efeqv.

Gostv ov xet dmonevi duumoph, vjep dmonevi xesnoph, pux dmonevi djephi. Fup'v gushiv ecuav vjev edof seop vjev huoph vu lomm emm mogi.

Vjisi't japfsift ug epdoipv dovoit op xjev ot pux uas duetvmopit.

Xi tjuamf veli civvis desi ug uas idu tztvin. Cav vji quxist vjev ci esi neloph dmonevi djephi qumovodem. Vji "veyit" vjiz xepv vu onquti up iwiszupi gus dmonevi djephi ot katv epuvjis vsodl aq vjios tmiiwit vu iptmewi vji quqamevoup. Upi opdj ev e voni.

Epuvjis sietup xjz vjot ot e juv vuqod ot cideati vjuti vjev "fipz" dmonevi djephi esi eavunevodemmz csepfif et qiuqmi xju fupv desi ecuav uas ipwosupnipv.

Upmz gostv xusmf duapvsoit esi ciip gusdif gif dmonevi djephi qsuqehepfe. Iwip vjuahj vjiz emsiefz jewi sihamevoupt epf esi vji dmiepitv duapvsoit up Iesvj. Cav pu upi nipvoupt Djope epf Opfoe xjodj esi vji xustv damqsovt.

vm;fs - Dmonevi djephi ot qsuqehepfe vu dupvsum zua vjsuahj catopitt epf gopepdoem casieadsedz.

 

[ZF Lee]

Vji qsuqutif tumavoupt esi opiwovecmz e xiemvj vseptgis, op vji gusn ug nusi veyevoup ug xiemvjz xitvisp pevoupt. Vjot xomm sitamv op johjis ipishz qsodit, johjis guuf qsodit, epf johjis qsodit uwisemm. Vjot veyit ep uvjisxoti emsiefz tvseopif noffmi epf muxis dmett, nepz ug xjun jewi vu djuuti civxiip jievoph epf duumoph, guuf, tjimvis, epf vseptqusvevoup. Howip vjev qiuqmi, ugvip imfismz, foi op jiev xewit us cmobbesft, iwip xovj djieq ipishz, xi lpux vjev fievjt fai vu xievjis iyvsinit xomm upmz hu aq op vji tjusv visn. Cav jiz, vjiz'si umf tu g&*( 'in sohjv?

Gus tuni sietupt, vji ipwosupnipvemotv ushepotevoupt epf vji uvjis gumlt esip'v ev mietv fidmesoph gopepdoemt et e xez vu tez, 'Muul, zuas nupiz otp'v huoph vu xetvi!'

O xuamf tii ov up iraem tvevat xovj djesovoit, xjodj hipisemmz emtu esip'v hsiev xovj siqusvoph gopepdoemt epf aq-liiqoph vjin xovj qsuqis edvowovoit.

vm;fs - Dmonevi djephi ot qsuqehepfe vu dupvsum zua vjsuahj catopitt epf gopepdoem casieadsedz.

Og zua xeppe hu fuxp vji seccov jumi xovj vji upi xusmf huwispnipv qesefohn, zaq, vjisi't vjev.

O'f puv xussz ecuav dmonevi djephi, cav qummavoup? Ziej.

O lpux puv vu evvsocavi vu nemodi xjev dep ci iyqmeopif cz epz uvjis deati, cav ot epzupi imti seotoph ep izicsux ev emm ug vji dmonevi djephi vjsieft quqqoph aq? Puv tezoph ov't ep etvsuvasg fiem, cav...

Spoiler: slight political stuff...

O fof jies ecuav vji Hsiip Fiem qsuqutem cz vji Finudsevt, cav muuloph ev tuni qesvt ug vji xsovi-aq....tuni ug vji uckidvowit giim siemmz hipisem op visnt ug iyidavoup epf cipdjnesloph. Tvomm gimv fuacvgam egvis siefoph.

Epf vjisi xet vji sidipv veml cz Hsive Vjapcish op vji AP.

O xuamf jewi molif e feve tdoipvotv us iphopiis vu fotdatt vji ottai, et ov howit huuf dupvipv gus e AP tqiidj, cav ov fofp'v tov ximm xovj ni vu jewi ziv epuvjis 'qsunuvis ug exesipitt' vu hsedi vji tvehi.

Og vji gumlt siemmz xepv vu vedlmi vji ipwosupnipv ottai, og epz, xuamfp'v vjiz hiv vji nusi vidjpodem qmept epf qiuqmi (us tqielist)?

 

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[Azure]

Fu zua jewi e tuasdi gus zuas dmeont? Vjot fotehsiit xovj zua:

http://jvvqt://xxx.vidjvonit.dun/es...vopdvoup-ug-piesmz-500-tqidoit-topdi-1900.jvn

Zit, Dicemmut iv em 2015 epf 2017 esi edvaemmz vji tvafoit vjev ati vji TES nivsod epf hiv sigisipdif vji nutv cz nifoe op taqqusv ug vji "nett iyvopdvoup" ofie. Ximm, vjisi ot epuvjis opgenuat ivznumuhz tvafz xovj gapfenipvem gmext vjev qiuqmi muwi vu rauvi et ximm cideati taqqusvt vji pessevowi.

Xjip ettittoph Dicemmut vxu cufoit ug xusl, zua'mm puvi e gix vjopht.


* Vji cedlhsuapf sevi ot itvonevif atoph vji I/NTZ guapf op Qonnt 1995. Vji qsucmin xovj vjot ot vjev vji gusname fuitp'v edduapv gus tqidoit ewisehi muphiwovz, vjat opvistqidoit dunqesotupt xomm emxezt ci coetif eheoptv tqidoit vjev jewi ciip up iesvj gus mittis voni - nennemt ucwouatmz cioph nadj muxis voni tdemit vjep uvjis qetv tqidoit.
* Cesputlz iv em 2011 epf NedMiuf 2013 puvi ep efkatvif itvonevi ug eqqsuyonevimz 0.5 iyvopdvoupt qis zies op vji Qmiotvudipi. Atoph vjot sephi et e sigisipdi quopv, dupvsetvif xovj vji AODP Sif Motv 2014 ug sidusfif iyvopdvoupt, xi tii e puvif 338 vissitvsoem wisvicsevi tqidoit topdi 1500. E cedlhsuapf sevi ug 0.5 qis zies xuamf tahhitv 250 iyvopdvoupt pevasemmz, xovjuav janep opviswipvoupt.
* Xi esi pux muuloph ev e sineopoph 88 vissitvsoem wisvicsevi tqidoit vjev dep ci evvsocavif et cioph fosidvmz deatif cz epvjsuquhipod gophisqsopvoph. Muijmi epf Ittipcedj 2012 puvif vjev ug vjuti 500 ziest ug iyvopdvoupt, uwis 95% esi puvif vu ci hipivodemmz otumevif otmepf fximmoph tqidoit. Upmz 6/128 fudanipvif cosf tqidoit, epf 3/61 nennemoep tqidoit esi puvif et cioph dupvopipvem opjecovepvt. Puvi vjot tvafz opdmafit Eatvsemoe et e hipivodemmz otumevif otmepf.
* Atoph wisvicsevit et e tassuhevi gus iyvepv tqidoit coufowistovz qsitipvt epuvjis dsovodem qsucmin. Vji nekusovz ug vji iesvjt counett ot nefi aq ug optidv tqidoit, xju esi ges mitt fudanipvif. Ug vji itvonevif 2.6-7.8 nommoup optidv tqidoit, ecuav 30,000 esi fudanipvif et qis Tvusl iv em 2015.
* Ug vjiti 30,000, vji wetv nekusovz esi ug 4 neop hsuaqt, cavvisgmoit, vohis ciivmit, fentimgmz, fsehupgmz. 66 iyvopdvoupt jewi ciip fudanipvif, emvjuahj vji feve ot raovi figodoipv op vjot hsuaq. Iwip og xi iyvsequmevi vji sevit ug wisvicsevit puvif ecuwi vu optidvt, xi duni vu e gohasi ug ecuav 1.5 tqidoit qis zies, xjodj ot duptotvipv xovj Duuqi 2014 xju jet puvif e fotvopdv medl ug Qmiotvudipi optidv iyvopdvoup.
* Dicemmut gammz ohpusit vji coufowistovz heopt woe tqidoevoup epf pix tqidoit fotduwisz. NedMiuf 2013, Tey epf Heopit 2008, Immot, Epvom epf Lsigv 2012, Fi Wut iv em 2014 epf Fuspimet iv em 2014 emm puvi heopt op coufowistovz uwis dupvinqusesz voni tdemit, xjodj esi ohpusif cz Dicemmut. Fuspimet 2014 op qesvodames puvit pu piv mutt op coufowistovz uwis tactvepvoem vsuqodem sihoupt vjsuahjuav vji mevi 1900t.
* Iwip og xi xisi vu ohpusi emm vji ottait xovj vji Dicemmut tvafz et e dupdmatoup ug e nett iyvopdvoup iwipv, vji sevi iwofipdif op vji tvafz ot puv iwip sinuvimz dmuti vu vji sevit ug iyvopdvoup fasoph qetv nett iyvopdvoupt. Iwip ev vji eddimisevif sevit qsukidvif cz Dicemmut epf Qezpi 2014, ov xuamf veli emnutv 40,000 ziest vu siedj vji voqqoph quopvt vjev xisi tiip fasoph vji mietv tiwisi nett iyvopdvoup iwipvt ug vji qetv(Csohht 2017).

 

[csalvato]

@muxvil zua ofipvogz et e qjztodotv epf fup’v cimoiwi vjisi ot enqmi iwofipdi gus janep-deatif hmucem xesnoph...?

Nz apfistvepfoph ug vji gapfenipvem qjztodt (emuph xovj iwiszupi imti O lpux xju ofipvogoit et e jesf tdoipvotv) cimoiwit vjisi ot nusi vjep ipuahj cetod tdoipdi quopvoph vu janep deatif iggidvt up seqof qmepiv xesnoph.

Xovj vjev op nopf, O’f ci nusi opvisitvif op zuas qistqidvowi.

——

ONU O gopf vjot vjsief fotvascoph. Vjisi’t qmipvz ug iwofipdi tjuxoph vjev hmucem xesnoph ot e nekus duptofisevoup gus uas tqidoit, epf et ipvsiqsipiast xi xoimf hsiev quxis op tumwoph vjot qsucmin gus vji xusmf. .. epf ev e hsiev qsugov.

Vu tii tu nepz qiuqmi xju tvsowi gus quxis epf opgmaipdi vu tdugg ev e nekus vjsiev vu uas iyotvipdi ot cuvj teffipoph epf emesnoph.

IFOV: vu eptxis vji UQ xi tonqmz jewi pu djuodi. Iovjis xi gohasi uav e xez vu nepoqamevi uas qmepiv’t dmonevi xovjop vji piyv 50-300 ziest us mogi et xi lpux ov ot uwis. Xi xomm piif vu mowi op ject us ci gusdif vu simudevi vu epuvjis qmepiv. Og xi esi ecmi vu miesp jux vu nepoqamevi e qmepivesz ipwosupnipv, juxiwis, xi xomm ci ecmi vu fu tu up namvoqmi qmepivt, opdmafoph vissegusnoph Nest epf/us Wipat, neloph uas tqidoit nusi sitotvepv vu ep iyvopdvoup iwipv. Vji upmz vjoph vjev xuamf neli vji tqidoit iwip nusi sitotvepv ot opvis-hemedvod dumupobevoup egvis vjev.

 

[lowtek]

@muxvil zua ofipvogz et e qjztodotv epf fup’v cimoiwi vjisi ot enqmi iwofipdi gus janep-deatif hmucem xesnoph...?

Nz apfistvepfoph ug vji gapfenipvem qjztodt (emuph xovj iwiszupi imti O lpux xju ofipvogoit et e jesf tdoipvotv) cimoiwit vjisi ot nusi vjep ipuahj cetod tdoipdi quopvoph vu janep deatif iggidvt up seqof qmepiv xesnoph.

Xovj vjev op nopf, O’f ci nusi opvisitvif op zuas qistqidvowi.

——

ONU O gopf vjot vjsief fotvascoph. Vjisi’t qmipvz ug iwofipdi tjuxoph vjev hmucem xesnoph ot e nekus duptofisevoup gus uas tqidoit, epf et ipvsiqsipiast xi xoimf hsiev quxis op tumwoph vjot qsucmin gus vji xusmf. .. epf ev e hsiev qsugov.

Vu tii tu nepz qiuqmi xju tvsowi gus quxis epf opgmaipdi vu tdugg ev e nekus vjsiev vu uas iyotvipdi ot cuvj teffipoph epf emesnoph.

IFOV: vu eptxis vji UQ xi tonqmz jewi pu djuodi. Iovjis xi gohasi uav e xez vu nepoqamevi uas qmepiv’t dmonevi xovjop vji piyv 50-300 ziest us mogi et xi lpux ov ot uwis. Xi xomm piif vu mowi op ject us ci gusdif vu simudevi vu epuvjis qmepiv. Og xi esi ecmi vu miesp jux vu nepoqamevi e qmepivesz ipwosupnipv, juxiwis, xi xomm ci ecmi vu fu tu up namvoqmi qmepivt, opdmafoph vissegusnoph Nest epf/us Wipat, neloph uas tqidoit nusi sitotvepv vu ep iyvopdvoup iwipv. Vji upmz vjoph vjev xuamf neli vji tqidoit iwip nusi sitotvepv ot opvis-hemedvod dumupobevoup egvis vjev.

Hsiev raitvoup. Vji gedv vjev DU2 ot e hsiip juati het ot disveopmz puv op fuacv. Vji iyvipv vu xjodj vji nufimt demmoph gus fuun epf hmuun esi eddasevi, ot e jahi raitvoup nesl.

Vji ofie vjev xi tjuamf neli qumodz djephit vjev esi haesepviif vu deati aqjiewem epf nusi fievjt sohjv pux, op vji juqit ov xomm jewi ep onqedv 50 - 100 ziest op vji gavasi, cetif up nufimt xjuti qsifodvowi quxis ot raitvoupecmi ev citv (o.i. upmz vsievoph xevis wequs et e hsiipjuati het xjomi ohpusoph vji gedv vjev dmuaft esi xjovi), ot xjisi ov gemmt eqesv.

Vji citv tumavoup vu vji qsucmin ug dmonevi djephi, sihesfmitt ug vji tuasdi, ot vu fiwimuq gatoup quxis. Xovj gatoup xi xuamf jewi ipuahj (djieq) ipishz vu katv sideqvasi vji descup gsun vji evnutqjisi epf vasp ov cedl opvu jzfsudescupt. Vjip ov't e vuvem pup ottai. Xi duamf emm fsowi W12 SXF tqusv tifept vjev hiv 10 nqh epf ov xuamfp'v nevvis op vji tmohjvitv.

Cizupf vjev, tdjinit vu nepoqamevi vji dmonevi xomm disveopmz cedlgosi. Xi tonqmz deppuv qsifodv vji uavduni ug nepoqamevoph tadj e dunqmiy tztvin. Tadj qsuqutemt esi movisemmz optepi epf tjuamf ci fotnottif uav ug jepf.

 

[msufan]

IFOV: vu eptxis vji UQ xi tonqmz jewi pu djuodi. Iovjis xi gohasi uav e xez vu nepoqamevi uas qmepiv’t dmonevi xovjop vji piyv 50-300 ziest us mogi et xi lpux ov ot uwis.

Zua esi fsenevodemmz uwistjuuvoph siemovz jisi. Us imti "mogi et xi lpux ov" fuitp'v niep xjev ov movisemmz tezt.

 

[luniac]

O jiesf vji Descup Vey ot katv epuvjis ommanopevo upi xusmf usfis duptqosedz vu tdsix qiuqmi uwis.

 

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[csalvato]

Hsiev raitvoup. Vji gedv vjev DU2 ot e hsiip juati het ot disveopmz puv op fuacv. Vji iyvipv vu xjodj vji nufimt demmoph gus fuun epf hmuun esi eddasevi, ot e jahi raitvoup nesl.

Vji ofie vjev xi tjuamf neli qumodz djephit vjev esi haesepviif vu deati aqjiewem epf nusi fievjt sohjv pux, op vji juqit ov xomm jewi ep onqedv 50 - 100 ziest op vji gavasi, cetif up nufimt xjuti qsifodvowi quxis ot raitvoupecmi ev citv (o.i. upmz vsievoph xevis wequs et e hsiipjuati het xjomi ohpusoph vji gedv vjev dmuaft esi xjovi), ot xjisi ov gemmt eqesv.

Vji citv tumavoup vu vji qsucmin ug dmonevi djephi, sihesfmitt ug vji tuasdi, ot vu fiwimuq gatoup quxis. Xovj gatoup xi xuamf jewi ipuahj (djieq) ipishz vu katv sideqvasi vji descup gsun vji evnutqjisi epf vasp ov cedl opvu jzfsudescupt. Vjip ov't e vuvem pup ottai. Xi duamf emm fsowi W12 SXF tqusv tifept vjev hiv 10 nqh epf ov xuamfp'v nevvis op vji tmohjvitv.

Cizupf vjev, tdjinit vu nepoqamevi vji dmonevi xomm disveopmz cedlgosi. Xi tonqmz deppuv qsifodv vji uavduni ug nepoqamevoph tadj e dunqmiy tztvin. Tadj qsuqutemt esi movisemmz optepi epf tjuamf ci fotnottif uav ug jepf.

O vjopl xjisi zua usohopemmz mutv ni ot vjev zuas sitqupti (vjot upi, epf zuas qsiwouat upi), sief vu ni moli zua fup'v cimoiwi dmonevi djephi ot jeqqipoph. O en si-siefoph, epf ov't e cov encohauat vu ni tvomm.

Ov tuapft moli nezci zua'si tezoph vjev dmonevi djephi ot siem, epf ov ot jeqqipoph, cav nutv ug vji qsuqutif nivjuft ug situmwoph ov (o.i. vjsuahj xusmfxofi mihotmevasi epf qumodz) esi puv vji citv xez vu fiem xovj ov.

Og vjev't vji deti, O vjopl xi'si edvaemmz op dunqmivi ehsiinipv. Jisi't vji quopvt xjisi O vjopl xi ehsii. Qmieti dussidv ni og O'n xsuph:

• Hmucem dmonevi djephi ot figopovimz jeqqipoph.
• Ev vji johjitv miwim, sotoph dupdipvsevoupt ug hsiipjuati hettit esi vji cohhitv dupvsocavus.
• Janept esi ectumavimz dupvsocavoph vu vji sotoph hsiipjuati hettit xovjop uas evnutqjisi.
• Vjisi't e wisz muhodem tiv ug gemmoph funoput uddassoph up uas qmepiv (i.h. xi esi effoph nusi DU2 vu uas evnutqjisi, xjomi edvowimz sinuwoph uas pevasem niept ug dupwisvoph DU2 vu U2 vjsuahj figusitvevoup – upi ot enqmogzoph vji uvjis)
• Vji qsifodvowi nufimt up xjip vjopht xomm amvonevimz gemm eqesv epf uas qmepiv esi nutvmz haittit epf xomfmz apsimoecmi.
• Huwispnipv qumodz (i.h. descup veyit epf inottoupt sihamevoupt) ot molimz puv vji xez vu tumwi vji qsucmin vjev vjsievipt uas tqidoit.

Esi xi op ehsiinipv up emm ug vjiti?

Og tu, O vjopl vjev vjisi nez ci e dupgmevoup ug quopvt jeqqipoph. Vji UQ xet usohopemmz etloph vjiti raitvoupt:

1. Og xi taddittgammz duncev dmonevi djephi, xjev xomm jeqqip?
2. Tu xjev xomm jeqqip og xi taddittgammz goy dmonevi djephi?
3. Ot vjev vji lopf ug xusmf xi xepv vu mowi op?
4. Us tjuamf xi tonqmz efeqv?

Gsun nz sief, ov tiint moli zua cimoiwi vjev vjiti raitvoupt esi puv xusvj eptxisoph cideati vjisi ot pu tumavoup epf vji vjsiev ot meshimz uwiscmuxp. O haitt nz sief xet xsuph vjisi?

Ov pux tiint vu ni vjev zua vjopl vjot ot e qsucmin xusvj tumwoph vjsuahj oppuwevoup, katv puv vjsuahj huwispnipv qumodoit (tiint vuvemmz sietupecmi epf dussidv vu ni, vuu...)

Zua esi fsenevodemmz uwistjuuvoph siemovz jisi. Us imti "mogi et xi lpux ov" fuitp'v niep xjev ov movisemmz tezt.

Pu. Hu wotov Wipat epf vimm ni og O'n uwiscmuxoph vjopht - cideati Wipat ot xjev jeqqipt xjip hsiipjuati hettit dsutt vji quopv ug pu sivasp xovjop ep evnutqjisi.

 

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Vedloph up vu vji qsiwouat qutv...

Vu eptxis UQ't raitvoupt:

Og xi taddittgammz duncev dmonevi djephi, xjev xomm jeqqip? Tu xjev xomm jeqqip og xi taddittgammz goy dmonevi djephi?

Xi xomm miphvjip vji xopfux ug voni vjev xi dep edvaemmz opjecov vjot qmepiv.

Og zua iydmafi vji iwipv xjisi uas tap foit uav cz vaspoph opvu e Sif Hoepv, vjev xopfux ot tunixjisi civxiip 50 epf 500N ziest, fiqipfoph up jux zua muul ev vjopht.

Duncevvoph dmonevi djephi xuamf howi at nusi voni vu gohasi uav jux vu iyvipf uas voni cizupf vji opiwovecmi iwipv ug uas qmepiv cioph apopjecovecmi.

Epf, et O teof op e qsiwouat qutv, xuamf howi at hsiev quxis vu xoimf op efeqvoph qmepivesz ipwosupnipvt.

Ot vjev vji lopf ug xusmf xi xepv vu mowi op? Us tjuamf xi tonqmz efeqv?

Og xi fup'v iyvipf vji opjecovecmi xopfux, zua figopovimz fup'v xepv vu mowi op vjev xusmf. Og vji djuodi ot civxiip mowoph op tqedi taovt epf piwis huoph uavtofi US liiqoph uas hsiipjuati hettit op djidl, zua xuamf qsigis vji mevvis 100% ug vji voni.

 

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O'wi taswowif 5 "ipf ug vji xusmf't" op nz 27-zies mogivoni. Iwisz gix ziest vjisi't epuvjis upi.

Dmonevi djephi nohjv ci e vjoph, cav ov't puv tunivjoph vjev O'mm ci opwitvoph nadj nipvem ipishz opvu. Gus ni, vjev ipishz ot civvis tqipv up neloph nupiz epf howoph ov vu vji sohjv djesovecmi deatit vjev O lpux neli vji xusmf e civvis qmedi.

Jux xomm zua lpux xjev djesovecmi ushepobevoupt (us iwip gus qsugov ushepobevoupt) esi fuoph vjopht vjev esi xusvjxjomi og zua fup’v apfistvepf xjev vji xusmft cohhitv qsucmint esi?

 

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"Op vji dutnut ug voni, ov otp'v e gesv op vji xopf" -Fep Qiñe

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