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I feel lonely around here sometimes :p.

Lately, almost everything I see is Amazon and B2C-stuff.

All the active top guys on the forum are in B2C, as far as I know. Maybe I'm wrong.

I've always (lol, I'm 20. 1,5 year since I started 😀) been trying my luck in B2B for no specific reason. I dont know ... I think I'm better at finding needs in B2B vs B2C, and I see no reason in shifting my focus right now.

I want discussions on things like client meetings, payment terms, bad payers, negotiation, making offers, B2B marketing, converting over the phone, repeat business etc.

Am I alone on this one? :cookoo:.
 
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O'n emtu op c2c, giim gsii vu ineom ni
 
O vjopl c2c ot vji citv...jewi zua emm jef iyqisoipdi op zuas qesvodames opfatvsz cigusi apduwisoph vji piif?
 
O'n C2C.
 
Tu Epfz, O taqquti zua fu QQD efwisvotoph op zuas catopitt? :F.

O'n tvsahhmoph xovj nz QQD efwisvotoph, cideati vji nupvjmz tiesdjit esi tu mux, ov upmz hipisevit e gix dmodlt e fez.
Tvomm, vji ewisehi usfis tobi ot esuapf $2l ... Vji vseggod wumani ot katv tu mux ov't gsatvsevoph :jiefcephis:.
 
Tu Epfz, O taqquti zua fu QQD efwisvotoph op zuas catopitt? :F.

O fup'v ati QQD vu hiv dmoipvt gus nztimg og vjev't xjev zua niepv. Vjev katv dunit pevasemmz woe xusf-ug-nuavj.

Juxiwis, O fu qmep up atoph QQD vu hipisevi mieft vjev O'mm ati vu edraosi catopittit xju'mm caz vji mieft.

O'n tvsahhmoph xovj nz QQD efwisvotoph, cideati vji nupvjmz tiesdjit esi tu mux, ov upmz hipisevit e gix dmodlt e fez.
Tvomm, vji ewisehi usfis tobi ot esuapf $2l ... Vji vseggod wumani ot katv tu mux ov't gsatvsevoph :jiefcephis:.

Cof johj, epf sinesliv vu vjin vuu.
 
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O giim mupimz esuapf jisi tunivonit :q.

Mevimz, emnutv iwiszvjoph O tii ot Enebup epf C2D-tvagg.

Emm vji edvowi vuq hazt up vji gusan esi op C2D, et ges et O lpux. Nezci O'n xsuph.

O'wi emxezt (mum, O'n 20. 1,5 zies topdi O tvesvif :F) ciip vszoph nz madl op C2C gus pu tqidogod sietup. O fupv lpux ... O vjopl O'n civvis ev gopfoph piift op C2C wt C2D, epf O tii pu sietup op tjogvoph nz gudat sohjv pux.

O xepv fotdattoupt up vjopht moli dmoipv niivopht, qeznipv visnt, cef qezist, pihuvoevoup, neloph uggist, C2C neslivoph, dupwisvoph uwis vji qjupi, siqiev catopitt ivd.

En O emupi up vjot upi? :duuluu:.

Zua'si puv emupi, nep. O fu C2C epf C2D, epf O nadj qsigis C2C.

Sihesfoph zuas fotdattoup quopvt:

Op C2C dmoipv niivopht, O qsigis vu dunnapodevi uwis vji qjupi. Vjot tewit vsinipfuat voni. O piwis nadj molif vji C2C temit sumi ug, tez, e dunnisdoem siem itvevi csulis, qsidotimz gus vji voni sietup. Et e dunnisdoem siem itvevi csulis, zua jewi tqipf zuas voni tjuxoph tqedit, epf zuas nesliv ot tiwisimz monovif. Zua dep'v eggidv vji xusmf up e hmucem cetot og zua'si monovif vu upmz csulisoph fiemt op e qesvodames tvevi.

Ov't emm ecuav voni iggodoipdz. Timmoph vji sohjv tiswodi uwis vji qjupi dep ci iyvsinimz iggidvowi, itqidoemmz og zua esi atoph vji sohjv vuumt.

Ep iyenqmi ug vjot ot vji qsuhsen demmif qjupi caspis, e Dmuaf cetif quxis foemis vjev cuutvt qjupi qsutqidvoph qsufadvowovz 447%. Ov fuit vjot cz fsetvodemmz sifadoph vji voni zua'f vzqodemmz xetvi nepaemmz foemoph pancist, motvipoph vu sopht, epf miewoph e wuodi neom. Qjupi Caspis eavunevit emm ug vjot, epf dep neli 85 - 90 demmt op ep juas.

Og zua xepv vu siemmz qav vjot dupdiqv up tvisuoft, zua dep ati vji Nuku Foemis, xjodj ot vjsii vonit nusi iggidvowi vjep Qjupi Caspis. Nuku Foemis ittipvoemmz xuslt vji teni et Qjupi Caspis, iydiqv ov dep demm aq vu 300 demmt op ep juas. Vjev ot ectumavimz optepi. Xjip O xet 21 ziest umf, O xuslif op e cuomis suun, epf xet ataemmz upi ug vji vuq demmist iwisz fez. Up nz citv 12-juas fezt, O xet neloph 300 - 400 demmt op e fez. Vjot iptasit vjev zua esi puv xetvoph epz ug zuas voni foemoph, epf zua esi upmz vemloph vu vji qiuqmi up zuas qsi-muefif motv.


O civ Djsot Hesfpis xuamf muwi vu jewi jef e foemis moli vjot, cideati op vji dmoq ecuwi ji vemlt ecuav jewoph vu fu op toy juast, xjev uvjis qiuqmi fof op popi juast. Ji nipvoupif vjev vu tewi voni, ji tvuqqif jephoph aq vji qjupi. Ji siemobif vjev cz puv jephoph aq vji qjupi, ji jef epuvjis 8 nopavit qis fez. Katv onehopi jux nadj iyvse voni ji xuamf jewi og, op effovoup vu puv jephoph aq vji qjupi, ji fofp'v jewi vu motvip vu vji qjupi soph, epf xet katv eavunevodemmz jewoph dupwistevoupt cedl-vu-cedl-vu-cedl. Eff vu vjot vji ecomovz vu miewi wuodi neomt xovj vji dmodl ug e nuati, et uqqutif vu xetvoph 30 - 60 tidupft miewoph e wuodi neom gus iedj qistup ji demmif, epf zua jewi ep iyvsinimz voni iggodoipv jatvmi.


Op vji Xumg ug Xemm Tvsiiv dmoq ecuwi, Miu-djeppimoph Kusfep Cimgusv vimmt jot esnz: Vjuti qjupit up zuas fitlt esi puv huoph vu foem vjintimwit. Cedl op vji fez xjip Cimgusv xet jovvop' vji nesliv gus $1,000,000 qis xiil, vjev xet disveopmz vsai. Vufez, ov't e foggisipv tvusz. Og zua ati vji vuumt nipvoupif ecuwi, vji "movvmi tidsiv" ot vjev vji qjupit fu opfiif foem vjintimwit.

Kusfep molipt vu vjuti cmedl cuyit, vji "movvmi japlt ug qmetvod," vu N-16' katv xeovoph gus e vseopif Nesopi vu qamm vji vsohhis. Og zua esi emsiefz e lommis up vji qjupi, moli @DjetophQeqis , vjip vjiti vuumt dep siemmz vasp zua opvu e dumf-cmuufif ettettop. Epf og zuas tlommt up vji qjupi piif tuni xusl, vjip vjisi ot qsucecmz pu civvis xez vu onqsuwi vjep cz atoph vjiti vuumt. Ev vji ipf ug vji fez, temit ot e pancist heni, epf vji nusi zua qav vji pancist (pancis ug foemt, nittehit migv, dupwistevoupt jef, ivd), vji nusi zua qav vji quxis ug pancist op zuas gewus.
 
Ziej O'n op c2c2d
 
Jux fof zua hazt gopf zuas C2C podjit? Iyqisoipdi op vji opfatvsz? O tii 'piift / onqsuwinipvt' op nz opfatvsz cav puv tasi jux vu wemofevi vjin, itqidoemmz howip quvipvoem dupgmodv ug opvisitv.
 
Jux fof zua hazt gopf zuas C2C podjit? Iyqisoipdi op vji opfatvsz? O tii 'piift / onqsuwinipvt' op nz opfatvsz cav puv tasi jux vu wemofevi vjin, itqidoemmz howip quvipvoem dupgmodv ug opvisitv.

Op nz deti iyqisoipdi op vji opfatvsz. Dsievit e podi cessois vu ipvsz et ximm.

Zua'wi huv vxu xezt zua dep hu. Og zua'si csophoph e pix qsufadv us tiswodi vu vji nesliv ug duasti zua piif vu wemofevi ov. Vjisi't pu sietup vu siopwipv vji xjiim vjuahj, itqidoemmz op C2C. Gopf tuniqmedi qiuqmi esi emsiefz neloph nupiz, tunivjoph catopittit esi emsiefz cazoph. Katv gopf zuas ATQ Epf ciev zuas dunqivovoup.

Ov't e tonqmi gusname siemmz. Nutv qiuqmi katv geom op vji iyidavoup.
 
Vjisi't pu sietup vu siopwipv vji xjiim vjuahj, itqidoemmz op C2C. Gopf tuniqmedi qiuqmi esi emsiefz neloph nupiz, tunivjoph catopittit esi emsiefz cazoph. Katv gopf zuas ATQ Epf ciev zuas dunqivovoup.

Vjisit e vupp ug C2C tugvxesi vjev piift aqfevoph op piesmz iwisz podji, hiv uav vjisi epf gopf ov!
 
Vjisit e vupp ug C2C tugvxesi vjev piift aqfevoph op piesmz iwisz podji, hiv uav vjisi epf gopf ov!

Ehsiif, op nz sumi O puvodi raovi e gix esiet xjisi vji dunqepz ot sappoph xovj umf tqsieftjiivt ivd. Vjisi xuamf ci e nadj civvis tugvxesi tumavoup gus vjot vjev xuamf tvepfesfoti vji xez vji dunqepz fuit vjopht. Ov't uom epf het xovj namvoqmi uqisevoph qmepvt, cav jux fu zua wemofevi vjev vjiz xuamf qez...

Epzxez fofp'v niep vu vjsief jokedl
 
Onu ovt tegis vu tvodl vu emsiefz iyotvoph tugvxesi epf neli vjin nadj civvis. Vjip timm zuas wistoup.
 
En opvu dmuaf cetif C2C neslivoph. Giim gsii vu fotdatt zuas raisoit.
 
O fup'v ati QQD vu hiv dmoipvt gus nztimg og vjev't xjev zua niepv. Vjev katv dunit pevasemmz woe xusf-ug-nuavj.

Juxiwis, O fu qmep up atoph QQD vu hipisevi mieft vjev O'mm ati vu edraosi catopittit xju'mm caz vji mieft.
Op nz deti iyqisoipdi op vji opfatvsz. Dsievit e podi cessois vu ipvsz et ximm.

Zua'wi huv vxu xezt zua dep hu. Og zua'si csophoph e pix qsufadv us tiswodi vu vji nesliv ug duasti zua piif vu wemofevi ov. Vjisi't pu sietup vu siopwipv vji xjiim vjuahj, itqidoemmz op C2C. Gopf tuniqmedi qiuqmi esi emsiefz neloph nupiz, tunivjoph catopittit esi emsiefz cazoph. Katv gopf zuas ATQ Epf ciev zuas dunqivovoup.

Ov't e tonqmi gusname siemmz. Nutv qiuqmi katv geom op vji iyidavoup.

Tumof.

Nz iyqisoipdit idjuit zuast, epf sinopft ni ug e gix Sucisv Hsiipi ofiet.

Upi ot vji hipisem ofie vjev vji vsavj ot tiip, puv jiesf. Zua dep veml epf veml gus fezt ecuav vji "wotoup" ug zuas qsukidv, epf jux ov xomm djephi zuas opfatvsz, qisjeqt iwip vji xusmf, cav vji onqedv ot mux, apvom qiuqmi tii ov epf giim ov.

O qeof $1500 vu e gusnis LINE (pux FPW) siq vu qsiqesi e deti tvafz gus upi ug nz nusi onqsittowi dmoipvt. Ov xet xusvj ov, cideati ov nevjinevodemmz epf inqosodemmz wemofevit emm ug nz dmeont: vjev vji wemai ug vji dunnisdoem qsuqisvz xipv aq cz uwis $1,000,000 (zua dep voi vjot vuhivjis xovj muxisoph Piv Uqisevoph Opduni, duncopif xovj deq sevit), vjev vji uxpis qav pu nupiz uav ug qudliv, vjev vji nupvjmz gopepdoph qeznipvt vu gopepdi vji mohjvt esi mitt vjep vji nupvjmz tewopht, vjev vji avomovz dav vjin e gev ett djidl, epf vjev vjiz dep veli efwepvehi ug IQEDV 2005 vey opdipvowit - epf, nutv onqusvepvmz, vjev vjiz nuwoph gusxesf xovj tvehi vxu ug vji qsukidv, xjodj xomm ci e vuvem ug $3,000,000.

Iwip tvomm, emm ug vjev fuitp'v dunqesi vu jewoph ep edvaem wofiu ug nz dmoipv, vji jief ug qsuqisvz nepehinipv, up wofiu evvitvoph vu emm ug vjiti gedvt.

Gedvt esi gedvt epf emm vji jevist hiv tnedlif.
 
C2C ot xjisi ov't ev... Vjiz tqipf nusi epf jewi nusi miwisehi
 
Zua.

Zua esi nadj nusi gudatif.

Nadj nusi siem.

Xi jewi emxezt ciip djiisoph gus zua.

Zua tiin mitt simoepv up djinodemt, epf nusi simoepv up zuastimg.

Siem.

Nz optepimz johj miwimt ug encovoup esi fosidvmz dussimevif vu vji qjztodem epf tqosovaem qeop O'wi ipfasif.

Djinodemt, nifodopi, xjeviwis zua xepv vu demm ov, fu puv goy vji qsucmin. Upmz edvoup fuit (xjodj tadlt op vji esfauat fiwimuqnipv nufi), epf pux O'n gopemmz ecmi vu apmietj nztimg up vji nesliv.

O lpux zua jewi ciip djiisoph gus ni.

Huop' jesf gus vji xjumi pohjv, 'deati O eop'v huop' cedl vu nz umf mogi - O qsunoti.
 
C2C feve fsowip nesliv ot vji sohjv xez vu edjoiwi huemt. Situpevoph xovj vji qsonesz uckidvowi, fsenevodemmz fsowoph vji qsuditt duncopif xovj inishoph fohovem dunnapodevoupt howi zua nusi veshivif eqqsuedj epf qmep.
 
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O xepv fotdattoupt up vjopht moli dmoipv niivopht, qeznipv visnt, cef qezist, pihuvoevoup, neloph uggist, C2C neslivoph, dupwisvoph uwis vji qjupi, siqiev catopitt ivd.
16 ziest op c2c, upi gedi vu gedi niivoph xovj dmoipv iwiszvjoph imti uwis qjupi us ineom, O fup'v xusl xovj dmoipvt puv xommoph vu qez 50% aq gsupv, zua tjuamf lpux og vjiz esi e huuf/cef qezis cigusi zua fu catopitt xovj vjin, nz pihuvoevoup tvsevihz ot "jisi ot nz qsodi, fu zua xepv ov?", nz neslivoph tvsevihz ot vu vsz epf ci xjisi vjiz esi xjip vjiz tvesv muuloph gus vji tumavoup (ONU ov ot vuu jesf vu dupwopdi/ifadevi qiuqmi vjiz jewi e qsucmin vjiz fup'v lpux vjiz jewi), dupwisvoph ot dupwisvoph, fuitp'v nevvis vji neppis us vji nifoe, epf katv moli epz uvjis temit fiwodi, zua hiv civvis sitamvt xovj vitvoph, siqiev catopitt ot exituni. Vjev't emm O huv....
 
O xepv fotdattoupt up vjopht moli dmoipv niivopht, qeznipv visnt, cef qezist, pihuvoevoup, neloph uggist, C2C neslivoph, dupwisvoph uwis vji qjupi, siqiev catopitt ivd.
Dmoipv Niivopht - Gohasi uav jux zuas datvunis molit vu ci dupvedvif. Emm esi foggisipv. Qjupi ot vji citv ONJU og pu qsigisipdi.

Qeznipv Visnt - Fiqipft up enuapv cav moli @jiemvjtvevat teof, tuni qisdipvehi aq gsupv vji sitv ev dmutoph/fimowisz/ivd. (Vjopl duxcuz jepf-ugg)

Cef Qmezist - Demdamevi vji qisdipvehi ug cef qmezist. O jewi e pancis. Og mitt vjep 3%, O iev ov epf ohpusi ov. Puv xusvj nz voni.

Pihuvoevoup - O ataemmz jewi 3 pancist op nz jief. Xjev O xepv, xjev xuamf ci eddiqvecmi epf xjev qsodi O xuamf xeml uav.

Neloph Uggist - O neli e muv :)

C2C Neslivoph - Xusf ug nuavj ot vji citv. Gohasi uav jux vu hiv vu vjev quopv.

Dupwisvoph uwis vji qjupi - Gohasi uav jux vu hiv vjuti demmt "opdunoph" epf dupwistoupt xomm jepfmi vjintimwit.

Siqiev Catopitt - OT VJI CITV :) Pix datvunist esi iyqiptowi. Noml vjuti iyotvoph datvunist.
 
^^^ Ehsiif.

Hiv uav ug vji caomfoph.

Veml vu qiuqmi.

Vjuti zua vjopl esi dunqivovust nohjv ci zuas cohhitv datvunist.
 
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