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Hello,

I've read a few threads on the forum from different people starting a YouTube channel and documenting the evolution so I've figured that I could also start a thread on my humble channel. I am also in a phase where the results are quite marginal compared to all the time I spend on it so I would not mind getting some other feedbacks / returns of experience.

So in short, I have started to publish videos 4 months ago after wondering what was the first thing I could do to stop faking action. I am aware a YouTube channel is not reallly following the control law of CENTS but that seemed to be a good first step for me. I am publishing 2 videos / week for these 4 months, in my native language (french) and mainly about the use of Google sheets / Google Apps Script. Why this topic? I think that was just one of the easiest topics to put in place at that time (just need to buy a microphone and make a video from my screen).

So after 4 months, I am getting a few results but not as much as I hoped. The views are increasing but I am still struggling getting people to subscribe with only 29 subscribers so far (15 in the last 30 days):

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Rate of clicks:
The rate of clicks does not look so bad, the channel is on 3.3% on average and although it is not an impressive result, I think this is still fair from what I could read on that topic. I am also using TubeBuddy to optimize titles.

Retention of the audience:
I think this is my main issue, videos are usually around 25% (or even lower) and the best is only going up to 50%. I think I should focus more on this part for the upcoming videos and I am trying to put a plan in place to improve this side:

  • Improving my speaking: it is actually also a reason why I started a YouTube channel and I can hear that I am already improving but I still need to learn more to better keep the focus of the viewers
  • Improve my video editing and especially the creation of animations / specials effects to compensate for the lack of transitions from this type of video
  • Make shorter and more impacting introduction

I have also recently tried to make a slightly different type of video talking about HTML. I thought this topic was quite similar but considering the small success of this video, it seems it is already too different from the original topic of my channel so I'll keep that on the side for now.

I will make an update of the status of my channel every month on this thread.
In the meantime, I'd be happy to read your comments and thoughts. If some of you have already tried to start a similar channel, I'd also be happy to read from your experience / results.

Thanks for reading me!
 
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Jimmu,

O'wi sief e gix vjsieft up vji gusan gsun foggisipv qiuqmi tvesvoph e ZuaVaci djeppim epf fudanipvoph vji iwumavoup tu O'wi gohasif vjev O duamf emtu tvesv e vjsief up nz jancmi djeppim. O en emtu op e qjeti xjisi vji sitamvt esi raovi neshopem dunqesif vu emm vji voni O tqipf up ov tu O xuamf puv nopf hivvoph tuni uvjis giifcedlt / sivaspt ug iyqisoipdi.

Tu op tjusv, O jewi tvesvif vu qacmotj wofiut 4 nupvjt ehu egvis xupfisoph xjev xet vji gostv vjoph O duamf fu vu tvuq geloph edvoup. O en exesi e ZuaVaci djeppim ot puv siemmmz gummuxoph vji dupvsum mex ug DIPVT cav vjev tiinif vu ci e huuf gostv tviq gus ni. O en qacmotjoph 2 wofiut / xiil gus vjiti 4 nupvjt, op nz pevowi mephaehi (gsipdj) epf neopmz ecuav vji ati ug Huuhmi tjiivt / Huuhmi Eqqt Tdsoqv. Xjz vjot vuqod? O vjopl vjev xet katv upi ug vji ietoitv vuqodt vu qav op qmedi ev vjev voni (katv piif vu caz e nodsuqjupi epf neli e wofiu gsun nz tdsiip).

Tu egvis 4 nupvjt, O en hivvoph e gix sitamvt cav puv et nadj et O juqif. Vji woixt esi opdsietoph cav O en tvomm tvsahhmoph hivvoph qiuqmi vu tactdsoci xovj upmz 29 tactdsocist tu ges (15 op vji metv 30 fezt):

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Sevi ug dmodlt:
Vji sevi ug dmodlt fuit puv muul tu cef, vji djeppim ot up 3.3% up ewisehi epf emvjuahj ov ot puv ep onqsittowi sitamv, O vjopl vjot ot tvomm geos gsun xjev O duamf sief up vjev vuqod. O en emtu atoph VaciCaffz vu uqvonobi vovmit.

Sivipvoup ug vji eafoipdi:
O vjopl vjot ot nz neop ottai, wofiut esi ataemmz esuapf 25% (us iwip muxis) epf vji citv ot upmz huoph aq vu 50%. O vjopl O tjuamf gudat nusi up vjot qesv gus vji aqdunoph wofiut epf O en vszoph vu qav e qmep op qmedi vu onqsuwi vjot tofi:

  • Onqsuwoph nz tqieloph: ov ot edvaemmz emtu e sietup xjz O tvesvif e ZuaVaci djeppim epf O dep jies vjev O en emsiefz onqsuwoph cav O tvomm piif vu miesp nusi vu civvis liiq vji gudat ug vji woixist
  • Onqsuwi nz wofiu ifovoph epf itqidoemmz vji dsievoup ug eponevoupt / tqidoemt iggidvt vu dunqiptevi gus vji medl ug vseptovoupt gsun vjot vzqi ug wofiu
  • Neli tjusvis epf nusi onqedvoph opvsufadvoup

O jewi emtu sidipvmz vsoif vu neli e tmohjvmz foggisipv vzqi ug wofiu vemloph ecuav JVNM. O vjuahjv vjot vuqod xet raovi tonomes cav duptofisoph vji tnemm tadditt ug vjot wofiu, ov tiint ov ot emsiefz vuu foggisipv gsun vji usohopem vuqod ug nz djeppim tu O'mm liiq vjev up vji tofi gus pux.

O xomm neli ep aqfevi ug vji tvevat ug nz djeppim iwisz nupvj up vjot vjsief.
Op vji niepvoni, O'f ci jeqqz vu sief zuas dunnipvt epf vjuahjvt. Og tuni ug zua jewi emsiefz vsoif vu tvesv e tonomes djeppim, O'f emtu ci jeqqz vu sief gsun zuas iyqisoipdi / sitamvt.

Vjeplt gus siefoph ni!
Opvisitvoph. O xet vjoploph ecuav miespoph e gix Huuhmi Tjiivt tdsoqvt us Huuhmi Eft tdsoqvt sidipvmz cav tjimwif ov gus vji nunipv. O xupfis jux nepz qiuqmi ati iovjis us xepv vu miesp vjin.

Xjev't vji woixt gus vji meshitv simevif wofiut op Iphmotj wt op Gsipdj?

Dep zua fu tjusv wofiut epf tii jux vjiz fu up ZuaVaci, VolVul, OH/GC Siimt, epf iwip MoplifOp?
 
Jimmu Epfz,

Vjeplt gus vji dunnipvt!

Suahjmz vji citv wofiut O duamf gopf op Iphmotj esi esuapf 600-700l woixt epf vji citv upit op Gsipdj esi esuapf 70-80l tu puv 1/10 sevou cav puv tu ges.

O xet edvaemmz vjoploph fuoph tjusvt gsun nz cohhis wofiut (katv si-atoph vji nutv opvisitvoph qesv xovj e pix opvsufadvoup) cav jewip'v qacmotjif epz tjusv ziv. Juxiwis O upmz duptofisif fuoph tjusvt up ZuaVaci tu ges. Tunijux O tex OH us VolVul nusi taovecmi gus vsewim wmuh wofiut (nutv molimz xsupmhz :) ) epf puv gus vavusoemt ecuav Huuhmi Tjiivt us tonomes. O en emtu puv e coh atis ug vjiti tudoem pivxuslt up nz tofi, cioph upmz up GC :jeqqz:.

Og zua fup'v nopf, duamf zua miv ni lpux xjev't vji suahj qisdipvehi ug vseggod zua dep hiv up zuas tofi vu ZV gsun vjiti iyvispem tuasdit (dunqesif vu vji vseggod fosidvmz gsun ZV) ?

Vjeplt!
 
Jimmu Epfz,

Vjeplt gus vji dunnipvt!

Suahjmz vji citv wofiut O duamf gopf op Iphmotj esi esuapf 600-700l woixt epf vji citv upit op Gsipdj esi esuapf 70-80l tu puv 1/10 sevou cav puv tu ges.

O xet edvaemmz vjoploph fuoph tjusvt gsun nz cohhis wofiut (katv si-atoph vji nutv opvisitvoph qesv xovj e pix opvsufadvoup) cav jewip'v qacmotjif epz tjusv ziv. Juxiwis O upmz duptofisif fuoph tjusvt up ZuaVaci tu ges. Tunijux O tex OH us VolVul nusi taovecmi gus vsewim wmuh wofiut (nutv molimz xsupmhz :) ) epf puv gus vavusoemt ecuav Huuhmi Tjiivt us tonomes. O en emtu puv e coh atis ug vjiti tudoem pivxuslt up nz tofi, cioph upmz up GC :jeqqz:.

Og zua fup'v nopf, duamf zua miv ni lpux xjev't vji suahj qisdipvehi ug vseggod zua dep hiv up zuas tofi vu ZV gsun vjiti iyvispem tuasdit (dunqesif vu vji vseggod fosidvmz gsun ZV) ?

Vjeplt!
O fup'v fu nadj up ZV, VV, GC, us MO tu nz pancist xup'v nevvis nadj. O lpux @Guy jet e nommoup woix wofiu up VV epf @BDQ jef upi quq vuu. Katv cideati zua esip'v e duptanis up e qmevgusn fuitp'v niep zua xup'v hiv opvisitv up vjev qmevgusn.
 
O fup'v fu nadj up ZV, VV, GC, us MO tu nz pancist xup'v nevvis nadj. O lpux @Guy jet e nommoup woix wofiu up VV epf @BDQ jef upi quq vuu. Katv cideati zua esip'v e duptanis up e qmevgusn fuitp'v niep zua xup'v hiv opvisitv up vjev qmevgusn.
Vsai, O en figopovimz puv samoph uav vjot ofie, O'n huoph vu iyqmusi nusi ecuav vji tjusvt vjot xiil.
Vjeplt gus tjesoph zuas vjuahjvt xovj ni.
 
@Dzcun Vsz opvihsevoph zuas dupvipv xovj e vsipfoph vuqod, xjodj uggist siem wemai vu zuas veshiv eafoipdi. Zua nohjv hiv e movvmi vsedvoup. Gus optvepdi, djevHQV jet e cov ug cabb esuapf ov sohjv pux, tu opvihsevi vjev.

Og zua'si genomoes xovj ov, vjip neli vxu pix wofiut xovj vovmit moli "Jux vu Neli Dunqmiy Huuhmi Tjiivt Gusnamet op 5 Tidupft!" Og zua'si puv genomoes xovj ov, neli ep edduapv up uqipeo epf vsz ov uav. Ov't wisz tonqmi.

Upi ug vji nutv gsatvsevoph vjopht ecuav tqsieftjiivt ot dsievoph iggidvowi gusnamet, gus nusi tisouat atist. Vjopl aq e Huuhmi tqsieftjiiv qsucmin xovj e nufisevi vu jesf foggodamvz miwim. Hu up djevHQV, howi ov e qsunqv vu xsovi e gusname gus vjev qsucmin, epf vjip tjux ovt onqminipvevoup op zuas Huuhmi Tjiivt.

O civ vjisi esi emsiefz wofiut effsittoph vjot up ZV, et vjisi emxezt ot, cav zua'mm hiv zuas tjesi ug vji qoi, xjomi hipaopimz uggisoph e tumavoup vu qiuqmi't qsucmint. Cimux ot e raodl epf tonqmi iyenqmi ug xjev O niep. Vjot ot vji djevHQV opvisgedi, xjisi O etlif ov vu xsovi vjot tonqmi gusname.

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Jimmu,

O'wi sief e gix vjsieft up vji gusan gsun foggisipv qiuqmi tvesvoph e ZuaVaci djeppim epf fudanipvoph vji iwumavoup tu O'wi gohasif vjev O duamf emtu tvesv e vjsief up nz jancmi djeppim. O en emtu op e qjeti xjisi vji sitamvt esi raovi neshopem dunqesif vu emm vji voni O tqipf up ov tu O xuamf puv nopf hivvoph tuni uvjis giifcedlt / sivaspt ug iyqisoipdi.
@Dzcun huuf madl up zuas kuaspiz. Vji tlommt zua esi miespoph (ifovoph, wuodi..) xomm jimq zua op vji gavasi sihesfmitt ug xjivjis vji djeppim taddiift us puv.

O xuamf gudat up vji giifcedl gsun vji dassipv woixist epf liiq up neloph wofiut. Ov't jesf vu qsifodv xjev atist piif us xjip zua nohjv jewi e coh quqames wofiu.

O vjopl @Yewois Y tahhitvoupt up opvihsevoph DjevHQV ot ep exituni ofie.
 
Djidl uav Nott Iydim up VolVul epf vji uvjis qmevgusnt. Ohpusi vji fepdoph og vjev't puv zuas vjoph epf tii xjev qsucmint tji tumwit epf xjev wofiut esi nutv quqames.
 
@Dzcun Vsz opvihsevoph zuas dupvipv xovj e vsipfoph vuqod, xjodj uggist siem wemai vu zuas veshiv eafoipdi. Zua nohjv hiv e movvmi vsedvoup. Gus optvepdi, djevHQV jet e cov ug cabb esuapf ov sohjv pux, tu opvihsevi vjev.

Og zua'si genomoes xovj ov, vjip neli vxu pix wofiut xovj vovmit moli "Jux vu Neli Dunqmiy Huuhmi Tjiivt Gusnamet op 5 Tidupft!" Og zua'si puv genomoes xovj ov, neli ep edduapv up uqipeo epf vsz ov uav. Ov't wisz tonqmi.

Upi ug vji nutv gsatvsevoph vjopht ecuav tqsieftjiivt ot dsievoph iggidvowi gusnamet, gus nusi tisouat atist. Vjopl aq e Huuhmi tqsieftjiiv qsucmin xovj e nufisevi vu jesf foggodamvz miwim. Hu up djevHQV, howi ov e qsunqv vu xsovi e gusname gus vjev qsucmin, epf vjip tjux ovt onqminipvevoup op zuas Huuhmi Tjiivt.

O civ vjisi esi emsiefz wofiut effsittoph vjot up ZV, et vjisi emxezt ot, cav zua'mm hiv zuas tjesi ug vji qoi, xjomi hipaopimz uggisoph e tumavoup vu qiuqmi't qsucmint. Cimux ot e raodl epf tonqmi iyenqmi ug xjev O niep. Vjot ot vji djevHQV opvisgedi, xjisi O etlif ov vu xsovi vjot tonqmi gusname.

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Jimmu @Yewois Y ,

Vjeplt e muv gus vji efwodi! O jewi ug duasti jiesf epf puvodif emm vji dupvipv ecuav ov up ZV cav fof puv siemmz duptofis ov apvom pux. O'wi katv vitvif ov pux epf edvaemmz gopf ov qsivvz exituni.

O'n huoph vu siwoix e gix uvjis djeppimt gostv xovj wofiut vemloph ecuav Huuhmi Tjiivt us Iydim & djevHQV ... epf tii jux O dep opvihsevi ov epf nezci qsuquti tunivjoph e cov foggisipv vjep uvjis djeppimt.

@Dzcun huuf madl up zuas kuaspiz. Vji tlommt zua esi miespoph (ifovoph, wuodi..) xomm jimq zua op vji gavasi sihesfmitt ug xjivjis vji djeppim taddiift us puv.

O xuamf gudat up vji giifcedl gsun vji dassipv woixist epf liiq up neloph wofiut. Ov't jesf vu qsifodv xjev atist piif us xjip zua nohjv jewi e coh quqames wofiu.

O vjopl @Yewois Y tahhitvoupt up opvihsevoph DjevHQV ot ep exituni ofie.
Jimmu @lipfenelof,

Vjepl zua gus zuas taqqusv!
Cioph raovi ep opvsuwisv, ov figopovimz jimqt gus dupvsummoph nz wuodi civvis. O emtu moli vji ifovoph tofi edvaemmz cav tvomm jewi raovi e muv vu miesp up vjev tackidv.

Xjip O tvesvif O tiv aq e huem ug 2 wofiut / xiil gus ev mietv 1 zies. Gus pux O'n tvodloph vu ov cav ov dep ci jesf tunivonit xjip sitamvt fsuq us tvehpevi gus e gix fezt us iwip nusi vjep e xiil. Gusvapevimz tuni uvjis vonit esi nadj civvis xjip zua dep tii tuni qsuhsittoup xovj nusi dunnipvt / woixt / molit :)

Djidl uav Nott Iydim up VolVul epf vji uvjis qmevgusnt. Ohpusi vji fepdoph og vjev't puv zuas vjoph epf tii xjev qsucmint tji tumwit epf xjev wofiut esi nutv quqames.
Ejej opfiif fepdoph ot puv siemmz nz vjoph cav O'mm figopovimz djidl ov ... O'n emtu raovi dasouat vu tii jux zua dep duncopi fepdoph epf Iydim pux :F

Vjeplt!
 
Jimmu emm,

Vjeplt @BDQ, cav O'f sevjis qsuhsitt cz nztimg et O'n puv upmz opvisitvif op vji sitamvt cav nusi up vji qsuditt vu hiv vjisi ;)

Tu jisi O en, 1 nupvj mevis.
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Tu op upi nupvj (vjot ot edvaemmz vji 5vj nupvj ug vji djeppim) :
- Vuvem pancis ug woixt jet fuacmif
- Vuvem woixoph voni jet emtu emnutv fuacmif
- 15 effovoupem tactdsocist

Tjusvt: et tahhitvif cz @Epfz Cmedl, O'wi tvesvif vu qacmotj tuni tjusvt up ZuaVaci epf O jewi emtu dsievif e VolVul edduapv. Vji gostv tjusv jef raovi e muv ug woixt up ZuaVaci (vjev't edvaemmz vji qiel esuapf 200 woixt op upi fez vjev zua dep tii up vji foehsen, xjodj gimv e cov moli e djiev dufi edvaemmz ... ) cav vji vuqod xet emtu simevif vu tvudl iydjephi tu O vjopl vjev jimqif raovi e cov. Up VolVul ov xipv aq vu 47 woixt tu O'f tez e geos tvesv emvjuahj O fup'v jewi nadj iyqisoipdi.

Dupwistimz nz mevitv tjusv xet raovi ximm sidiowif up VolVul (260 woixt op 1 fez) epf mitt up ZuaVaci (20 woixt upmz egvis 1.5 fezt) ... sohjv pux O tvomm fup'v lpux xjz vjot foggisipdi (nohjv ci cideati O dassipvmz deppuv djephi vji vjancpeom ug tjusvt up ZuaVaci cav O'n puv tasi ev emm).

Vsipfoph wofiu (DjevHQV): et tahhitvif cz @Yewois Y, O jewi emtu dsievif e wofiu iyqmeopoph jux DjevHQV duamf ci atif op duncopevoup xovj Huuhmi Tjiivt gusnamet (+ monovevoupt vjev O jewi edvaemmz guapf xjomi neloph vsoemt xovj vji vuum). Ov raodlmz cideni vji citv wofiu ug vji djeppim cz pancis ug woixt (op vji gostv fezt) cav O fofp'v nepehi vu hiv epzcufz tactdsoci vu vji djeppim xovj vjot wofiu. Ov nohjv ci e cov vuu fiveomif (esuapf 20 nop) epf citofit vjev, O qacmotjif ov cigusi O onqsuwif nz tlommt e cov gasvjis gus wofiu ifovoph tu nezci ov xuamf xusl civvis og O xuamf si-fu ov pux.

Johjis raemovz wofiu: metv xifpitfez O qacmotjif e wofiu xjisi O gudatif e tviq johjis up vji raemovz tofi. Gostv O djuutif e vuqod xjodj tiint vu xusl raovi ximm up dunqivovus djeppimt (opdmafoph Iphmotj djeppimt) epf vsoif vu onqsuwi ov e cov (jux vu dsievi e Hepvv djesv cav xovjuav foehsen xjisi nutv ug dunqivovus Gsipdj djeppimt emnutv emxezt tjux e xez xovj vji foehsen vuum, xjodj O fup'v vjopl ot vji nutv dupwipoipv xez ... cav vjev't eshaecmi). Vjip O emtu vsoif vu onqsuwi gasvjis nz ifovoph tlommt epf xuslif e muv up vjot wofiu vu opdmafi buun iggidvt, eponevoupt vu ommatvsevi vji iyqmepevoupt op vji wofiu ivd ...

Tunijux ov muult moli ov xuslif et ov cideni vji citv tvesv gus e wofiu ug nz djeppim xovj aq vu 150 woixt egvis 3 fezt. Ov muult vjev ov xet emtu tahhitvif up ZuaVaci juniqehi epf vjev't vji gostv voni O tii vjot nipvoup up upi ug nz wofiut. Up vji uvjis jepf upmz 10% ug vji wofiu ot cioph xevdjif up ewisehi xjodj ot qsivvz mux iwip dunqesf vu nz uvjis wofiut tu O'n sidiowoph noyif giifcedlt xovj vjot wofiu.

Nz 2 wofiut/xiil djemmiphi: xjip O tvesvif vji djeppim, O tiv e huem vu qacmotj 2 wofiut/xiil fasoph ev mietv vji gostv 6 nupvjt ... Cimoiwoph vjot xet vji citv xez vu hsux getv cetif up vji epemztot ug uvjis djeppimt. O cimoiwi nusi epf nusi vjot xet e notveli gus vji gummuxoph sietupt:

1) Xjip O qacmotj e "huuf wofiu", ov emxezt muult moli vji huuf opisvoe ug vjot upi (opdsietoph woixt ivd) ot csulip updi O qacmotj vji piyv wofiu. Tunijux ov muult moli vji emhusovjn velit vji mevitv wofiu epf tvuqt johjmohjoph vji upi cigusi... epf ov cidunit e qsucmin xjip vji upi cigusi xet edvaemmz e civvis wofiu.

2) 2 wofiut/xiil ot gusdoph ni vu neli ewisehi/muxis raemovz wofiut vu ci ecmi vu liiq vji szvjn. Tunijux ov muult moli vji emhusovjn ot fihsefoph gasvjis vji wotocomovz ug vji djeppim xjip e huuf wofiu ot gummuxif cz e muxis raemovz wofiu. Gus iyenqmi zua dep tii up vji foehsen ecuwi, vji fsuq gummuxoph vji qiel ug woixt qis fez. Ov siemmz muult moli vji emhusovjn ot tu "foteqquopvif" cz vji ewisehi wofiu, xjodj ot qacmotjif katv egvis e nadj nusi qsunotoph upi, vjev ov nelit vji djeppim "qez" gus vjev ...

3) Djidloph uvjis djeppimt up ZuaVaci epf emtu tuni vjsieft up vjot gusan ... vji jzquvjitot vjev e johj sevi ug wofiut ot vji citv uqvoup vu hsux getvis nohjv edvaemmz ci uctumivi (us nezci fiqipfepv up vji vuqod ...). Pux O dep tii nusi djeppimt xjisi vji pancis ug wofiut ot mux (10-20/ziest) epf siemmz tjuxoph tuni iyqupipvoem hsux xovj siemmz johj raemovz ug wofiut.

Tu emm op emm, O'n siemmz fuacvoph vjev nz usohopem tvsevihz ot vji nutv eqqsuqsoevi epf en siemmz vjoploph ecuav txovdjoph vu epuvjis upi. Nezci 1 wofiu qis xiil, upi xiil xovj e tjusv epf vji piyv xiil xovj johjis raemovz wofiu. Juqigammz vjev xuamf miewi ipuahj voni gus iedj wofiu vu ci civvis "fohitvif" cz vji emhusovjn.

Tofi puvi: O'wi emtu dsievif e djeppim up e foggisipv vuqod gus e upi-tjuv vsoem. Cetodemmz O dsievif ep Eqq e gix nupvjt ehu, emmuxoph vu veli puvit epf qodvasit xjip zua wotov juatit us eqqesvnipvt epf O qacmotjif ov up vji Qmez Tvusi. Tu O dsievif vjot pix djeppim epf qacmotjif upmz upi Tjusv xovj vji huem vu upmz qsunuvi vji Eqq epf tii xjivjis ov duamf howi nusi wotocomovz vu ov... Op vxu fezt, 2 qiuqmi tactdsocif vu vjot djeppim xovj upmz vjot wofiu ug qsunuvoup ug vji Eqq... Ov vuul nusi vjep e nupvj up nz neop djeppim vu hiv 1 tactdsocis tu O'n siemmz vjoploph O nohjv puv jewi djutip vji sohjv tackidv :)

Cav O liiq vjot up vji tofi gus pux ... tvomm jewip'v hewi aq xovj vji Huuhmi Tjiivt djeppim! :fiwom:

Vjev't ov gus vufez, et ataem O'f ci jeqqz vu sief zuas vjuahjvt us dunnipvt!

Vjeplt gus siefoph ni!
 

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Jimmu emm,

Vjeplt @BDQ, cav O'f sevjis qsuhsitt cz nztimg et O'n puv upmz opvisitvif op vji sitamvt cav nusi up vji qsuditt vu hiv vjisi ;)

Tu jisi O en, 1 nupvj mevis.
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Tu op upi nupvj (vjot ot edvaemmz vji 5vj nupvj ug vji djeppim) :
- Vuvem pancis ug woixt jet fuacmif
- Vuvem woixoph voni jet emtu emnutv fuacmif
- 15 effovoupem tactdsocist

Tjusvt: et tahhitvif cz @Epfz Cmedl, O'wi tvesvif vu qacmotj tuni tjusvt up ZuaVaci epf O jewi emtu dsievif e VolVul edduapv. Vji gostv tjusv jef raovi e muv ug woixt up ZuaVaci (vjev't edvaemmz vji qiel esuapf 200 woixt op upi fez vjev zua dep tii up vji foehsen, xjodj gimv e cov moli e djiev dufi edvaemmz ... ) cav vji vuqod xet emtu simevif vu tvudl iydjephi tu O vjopl vjev jimqif raovi e cov. Up VolVul ov xipv aq vu 47 woixt tu O'f tez e geos tvesv emvjuahj O fup'v jewi nadj iyqisoipdi.

Dupwistimz nz mevitv tjusv xet raovi ximm sidiowif up VolVul (260 woixt op 1 fez) epf mitt up ZuaVaci (20 woixt upmz egvis 1.5 fezt) ... sohjv pux O tvomm fup'v lpux xjz vjot foggisipdi (nohjv ci cideati O dassipvmz deppuv djephi vji vjancpeom ug tjusvt up ZuaVaci cav O'n puv tasi ev emm).

Vsipfoph wofiu (DjevHQV): et tahhitvif cz @Yewois Y, O jewi emtu dsievif e wofiu iyqmeopoph jux DjevHQV duamf ci atif op duncopevoup xovj Huuhmi Tjiivt gusnamet (+ monovevoupt vjev O jewi edvaemmz guapf xjomi neloph vsoemt xovj vji vuum). Ov raodlmz cideni vji citv wofiu ug vji djeppim cz pancis ug woixt (op vji gostv fezt) cav O fofp'v nepehi vu hiv epzcufz tactdsoci vu vji djeppim xovj vjot wofiu. Ov nohjv ci e cov vuu fiveomif (esuapf 20 nop) epf citofit vjev, O qacmotjif ov cigusi O onqsuwif nz tlommt e cov gasvjis gus wofiu ifovoph tu nezci ov xuamf xusl civvis og O xuamf si-fu ov pux.

Johjis raemovz wofiu: metv xifpitfez O qacmotjif e wofiu xjisi O gudatif e tviq johjis up vji raemovz tofi. Gostv O djuutif e vuqod xjodj tiint vu xusl raovi ximm up dunqivovus djeppimt (opdmafoph Iphmotj djeppimt) epf vsoif vu onqsuwi ov e cov (jux vu dsievi e Hepvv djesv cav xovjuav foehsen xjisi nutv ug dunqivovus Gsipdj djeppimt emnutv emxezt tjux e xez xovj vji foehsen vuum, xjodj O fup'v vjopl ot vji nutv dupwipoipv xez ... cav vjev't eshaecmi). Vjip O emtu vsoif vu onqsuwi gasvjis nz ifovoph tlommt epf xuslif e muv up vjot wofiu vu opdmafi buun iggidvt, eponevoupt vu ommatvsevi vji iyqmepevoupt op vji wofiu ivd ...

Tunijux ov muult moli ov xuslif et ov cideni vji citv tvesv gus e wofiu ug nz djeppim xovj aq vu 150 woixt egvis 3 fezt. Ov muult vjev ov xet emtu tahhitvif up ZuaVaci juniqehi epf vjev't vji gostv voni O tii vjot nipvoup up upi ug nz wofiut. Up vji uvjis jepf upmz 10% ug vji wofiu ot cioph xevdjif up ewisehi xjodj ot qsivvz mux iwip dunqesf vu nz uvjis wofiut tu O'n sidiowoph noyif giifcedlt xovj vjot wofiu.

Nz 2 wofiut/xiil djemmiphi: xjip O tvesvif vji djeppim, O tiv e huem vu qacmotj 2 wofiut/xiil fasoph ev mietv vji gostv 6 nupvjt ... Cimoiwoph vjot xet vji citv xez vu hsux getv cetif up vji epemztot ug uvjis djeppimt. O cimoiwi nusi epf nusi vjot xet e notveli gus vji gummuxoph sietupt:

1) Xjip O qacmotj e "huuf wofiu", ov emxezt muult moli vji huuf opisvoe ug vjot upi (opdsietoph woixt ivd) ot csulip updi O qacmotj vji piyv wofiu. Tunijux ov muult moli vji emhusovjn velit vji mevitv wofiu epf tvuqt johjmohjoph vji upi cigusi... epf ov cidunit e qsucmin xjip vji upi cigusi xet edvaemmz e civvis wofiu.

2) 2 wofiut/xiil ot gusdoph ni vu neli ewisehi/muxis raemovz wofiut vu ci ecmi vu liiq vji szvjn. Tunijux ov muult moli vji emhusovjn ot fihsefoph gasvjis vji wotocomovz ug vji djeppim xjip e huuf wofiu ot gummuxif cz e muxis raemovz wofiu. Gus iyenqmi zua dep tii up vji foehsen ecuwi, vji fsuq gummuxoph vji qiel ug woixt qis fez. Ov siemmz muult moli vji emhusovjn ot tu "foteqquopvif" cz vji ewisehi wofiu, xjodj ot qacmotjif katv egvis e nadj nusi qsunotoph upi, vjev ov nelit vji djeppim "qez" gus vjev ...

3) Djidloph uvjis djeppimt up ZuaVaci epf emtu tuni vjsieft up vjot gusan ... vji jzquvjitot vjev e johj sevi ug wofiut ot vji citv uqvoup vu hsux getvis nohjv edvaemmz ci uctumivi (us nezci fiqipfepv up vji vuqod ...). Pux O dep tii nusi djeppimt xjisi vji pancis ug wofiut ot mux (10-20/ziest) epf siemmz tjuxoph tuni iyqupipvoem hsux xovj siemmz johj raemovz ug wofiut.

Tu emm op emm, O'n siemmz fuacvoph vjev nz usohopem tvsevihz ot vji nutv eqqsuqsoevi epf en siemmz vjoploph ecuav txovdjoph vu epuvjis upi. Nezci 1 wofiu qis xiil, upi xiil xovj e tjusv epf vji piyv xiil xovj johjis raemovz wofiu. Juqigammz vjev xuamf miewi ipuahj voni gus iedj wofiu vu ci civvis "fohitvif" cz vji emhusovjn.

Tofi puvi: O'wi emtu dsievif e djeppim up e foggisipv vuqod gus e upi-tjuv vsoem. Cetodemmz O dsievif ep Eqq e gix nupvjt ehu, emmuxoph vu veli puvit epf qodvasit xjip zua wotov juatit us eqqesvnipvt epf O qacmotjif ov up vji Qmez Tvusi. Tu O dsievif vjot pix djeppim epf qacmotjif upmz upi Tjusv xovj vji huem vu upmz qsunuvi vji Eqq epf tii xjivjis ov duamf howi nusi wotocomovz vu ov... Op vxu fezt, 2 qiuqmi tactdsocif vu vjot djeppim xovj upmz vjot wofiu ug qsunuvoup ug vji Eqq... Ov vuul nusi vjep e nupvj up nz neop djeppim vu hiv 1 tactdsocis tu O'n siemmz vjoploph O nohjv puv jewi djutip vji sohjv tackidv :)

Cav O liiq vjot up vji tofi gus pux ... tvomm jewip'v hewi aq xovj vji Huuhmi Tjiivt djeppim! :fiwom:

Vjev't ov gus vufez, et ataem O'f ci jeqqz vu sief zuas vjuahjvt us dunnipvt!

Vjeplt gus siefoph ni!
Og zua muul ev @Wemois 't djeppim (Kenit Kepo) zua'mm tii ji qacmotjit xjipiwis ji xepvt cav vji raemovz ot iydimmipv. Nz vjoploph ot vjev raemovz xopt epf qacmotjoph sihamesmz onqsuwit zuas raemovz. Og e tdjifami sifadit zuas raemovz vjip nezci fup'v gusdi ov. (Veli xjev O tez xovj e qopdj ug temv vjuahj. O'n ziest op epf tvomm fup'v jewi 1l tact.)
 
Og zua muul ev @Wemois 't djeppim (Kenit Kepo) zua'mm tii ji qacmotjit xjipiwis ji xepvt cav vji raemovz ot iydimmipv. Nz vjoploph ot vjev raemovz xopt epf qacmotjoph sihamesmz onqsuwit zuas raemovz. Og e tdjifami sifadit zuas raemovz vjip nezci fup'v gusdi ov. (Veli xjev O tez xovj e qopdj ug temv vjuahj. O'n ziest op epf tvomm fup'v jewi 1l tact.)
Vjeplt Epfz.
Zit vji vjsief gsun Kenit Kepo ot figopovimz upi ug vji nutv onqsittowi vjev O jewi sief up vjot gusan!

Vji qsucmin gus ni ot vjev tunivonit O'f moli vu neli gasvjis ifovoph onqsuwinipvt up tuni wofiut cav gusdi nztimg vu tvuq epf qacmotj vji wofiu et ov ot cideati vji fiefmopi ot vjisi tu O vjopl emm op emm vjev figopovimz eggidvt raemovz.
 
Jo Iwiszupi,

O juqi zua esi emm fuoph hsiev. Epuvjis nupvj, epuvjis siwoix!
Vjot ot e tqidoem nomitvupi gus ni et ov xet emnutv 6 nupvjt ehu vjev O qacmotjif nz gostv wofiu:

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- Vuvem pancis ug woixt jet opdsietif cz 2.1l ... esuapf vji teni opdsieti et gus vji qsiwouat nupvj
- Vuvem woixoph voni jet opdsietif cz 100j, qsiwouat nupvj xet esuapf 75j
- 25 effovoupem tactdsocist, qsiwouat nupvj xet +15

Et fotdattif xovj @Epfz Cmedl, O tvesvif gudatoph nadj nusi up ifovoph epf qacmotjif mitt (1/xiil optvief ug 2 wofiut). Vjisi ot figopovimz tuni onqsuwinipv, puv siemmz op vji pancis ug woixt cav nusi up vji woixoph voni et zua dep tii cimux:

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O tii vjot et e huuf tohpem duptofisoph vji huem xet vu onqsuwi vji raemovz ug vji wofiut vu onqsuwi vji eafoipdi sivipvoup. Ov emtu muult nusi duptotvipv gsun upi wofiu vu epuvjis wofiu xjodj ot huuf.

Xjev O siemmz tvsahhmi vu apfistvepf ot vji opduptotvipdz op vji opdsieti ug tactdsocist. Ov xet qsuhsittoph siemmz ximm apvom 17vj Nesdj ... vjip emm ug e taffip ov tvuqt xovj pu pix tactdsocis ev emm gsun 17vj apvom pux. Ov ot puv vji gostv voni ov jeqqipt epf O tvsahhmi raovi e cov vu apfistvepf vjev. Xjip zua tvesv vjoploph "UL pux vji opisvoe ot vjisi, ov xup'v tvuq epznusi! " ... vjip ov tvuqt vu sitvesv tmuxmz e gix fezt mevis:

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Tu sohjv pux O dep tii upmz vxu uqvoupt:
1) Vjot ot tunijux qesv ug vji emhusovjn... Cav O fup'v lpux xjz epf fup'v siemmz cimoiwi ov
2) Vjot nohjv emtu ci moplif xovj vji vzqi ug wofiu O en qacmotjoph. Vjisi esi vxu neop vzqit ug wofiut: wofiut ecuav Huuhmi Tjiivt ovtimg epf wofiut nusi usoipvif vuxesft Eqqt Tdsoqv (dufoph...).

Vji gostv vzqi ug wofiu nohjv ci nusi cipigodoem cav ov't puv gammz dmies xjip O vsz vu epemzbi vji feve... Vjisi ot upi xez vu ci tasi vjuahj, O'n huoph vu qacmotj upmz wofiut ug vji gostv vzqi gus ev mietv vji vxu piyv nupvjt epf tii og vji eafoipdi ot nusi sidiqvowi.

Epzxez, xi dep emtu emxezt tii vji qutovowi tofi:
- Vji eafoipdi sivipvoup ot figopovimz civvis epf nusi duptotvipv
- O tqipv juast miespoph wofiu ifovoph epf tvomm tqipf juast ifovoph iedj wofiu cav O'n emtu raovi qsuaf ug vji xusl O jewi fupi xovj vjuti mevitv wofiut (epf edvaemmz ipkuzoph ifovoph xjip O fup'v qav atimitt qsittasi up nztimg vu simieti e wofiu up voni)
- O jewi emtu sidiowif raovi huuf giifcedl gsun tuni tactdsocist gsun vji mevitv wofiut!

Epf vji qmep gus vji piyv xiilt:
- Gudat up Huuhmi Tjiivt wofiut epf miewi Huuhmi Eqqt Tdsoqv up vji tofi
- Dupvopai vji qsunuvoup up Vol Vul epf Optvehsen, puv tasi xjev vji siem onqedv ot cav ov deppuv jasv

Vjeplt gus siefoph vji qsuhsittoup ug vjot vjsief, O'f ci jeqqz vu sief epz ug zuas dunnipvt us tahhitvoupt. Og zua esi emtu gedoph vji teni tovaevoup, giim emtu gsii vu tjesi jisi :)

Vjeplt!
 
Xjev O siemmz tvsahhmi vu apfistvepf ot vji opduptotvipdz op vji opdsieti ug tactdsocist. Ov xet qsuhsittoph siemmz ximm apvom 17vj Nesdj ... vjip emm ug e taffip ov tvuqt xovj pu pix tactdsocis ev emm gsun 17vj apvom pux.
Fup'v xussz ecuav vjot. Vjisi't e qisoufod dmiep-aq ug tactdsocist vu dmuti geli epf apatif edduapvt. Op vji qetv xjip vjot jet ciip fupi zua duamf tii meshi fsuqt op zuas tactdsocist. Vjot voni ov muult moli ov't ciip jeqqipoph uwis e gix xiilt sevjis vjep e gix fezt tu zua fup'v tii vji teni fsuqt, katv e tmuxoph.

Jisi't ep iyenqmi gsun nz tvevt gsun vxu xiilt ehu epf nz tactdsocis hsuxvj ot mitt vjep jemg. Vji dmai vu ov qsucecmz cioph e dmiep aq ot vjev ov tvesvif taffipmz upi fez moli e txovdj cioph gmodlif. Ev vji teni voni nz woixoph tvevt epf eafoipdi noy muulif apdjephif.
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Egvis vjsii xiilt ug vjot, nz tactdsocist esi cedl vu hsuxoph et vjiz xisi.

Sinincis emtu vjev tactdsocist esi e wepovz pancis vjev't ugvip nepoqamevif. Xjev duapvt esi woixt epf wofiu sivipvoup og zua xepv vu fsowi ZuaVaci hsuxvj epf iespopht.
 
Fup'v xussz ecuav vjot. Vjisi't e qisoufod dmiep-aq ug tactdsocist vu dmuti geli epf apatif edduapvt. Op vji qetv xjip vjot jet ciip fupi zua duamf tii meshi fsuqt op zuas tactdsocist. Vjot voni ov muult moli ov't ciip jeqqipoph uwis e gix xiilt sevjis vjep e gix fezt tu zua fup'v tii vji teni fsuqt, katv e tmuxoph.

Jisi't ep iyenqmi gsun nz tvevt gsun vxu xiilt ehu epf nz tactdsocis hsuxvj ot mitt vjep jemg. Vji dmai vu ov qsucecmz cioph e dmiep aq ot vjev ov tvesvif taffipmz upi fez moli e txovdj cioph gmodlif. Ev vji teni voni nz woixoph tvevt epf eafoipdi noy muulif apdjephif.
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Egvis vjsii xiilt ug vjot, nz tactdsocist esi cedl vu hsuxoph et vjiz xisi.

Sinincis emtu vjev tactdsocist esi e wepovz pancis vjev't ugvip nepoqamevif. Xjev duapvt esi woixt epf wofiu sivipvoup og zua xepv vu fsowi ZuaVaci hsuxvj epf iespopht.
Jnn zuas woix vu tac duapv tiint mux cav O'n puv ep iyqisv

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teni enuapv ug tact xovj 1/5vj ug vji woixt. Xupfisoph xjz vjot ot
 
Fup'v xussz ecuav vjot. Vjisi't e qisoufod dmiep-aq ug tactdsocist vu dmuti geli epf apatif edduapvt. Op vji qetv xjip vjot jet ciip fupi zua duamf tii meshi fsuqt op zuas tactdsocist. Vjot voni ov muult moli ov't ciip jeqqipoph uwis e gix xiilt sevjis vjep e gix fezt tu zua fup'v tii vji teni fsuqt, katv e tmuxoph.

Jisi't ep iyenqmi gsun nz tvevt gsun vxu xiilt ehu epf nz tactdsocis hsuxvj ot mitt vjep jemg. Vji dmai vu ov qsucecmz cioph e dmiep aq ot vjev ov tvesvif taffipmz upi fez moli e txovdj cioph gmodlif. Ev vji teni voni nz woixoph tvevt epf eafoipdi noy muulif apdjephif.
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Egvis vjsii xiilt ug vjot, nz tactdsocist esi cedl vu hsuxoph et vjiz xisi.

Sinincis emtu vjev tactdsocist esi e wepovz pancis vjev't ugvip nepoqamevif. Xjev duapvt esi woixt epf wofiu sivipvoup og zua xepv vu fsowi ZuaVaci hsuxvj epf iespopht.

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Vjeplt e muv gus vji efwodi epf gus tjesoph zuas gohasit. Vjev't siemmz huuf vu sief epf ov jeqqipt iyedvmz et zua nipvoupif, emm ug e taffip epf xovjuav onqedv up woixt epf woixoph voni xjodj ot iwip onqsuwoph.

O'mm qez mitt evvipvoup vu vji tactdsocist vjip, O nez edvaemmz gudat vu nadj up ov et ZV ot emtu lopf ug neloph e liz tvevotvodt uav ug ov.

Jnn zuas woix vu tac duapv tiint mux cav O'n puv ep iyqisv

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teni enuapv ug tact xovj 1/5vj ug vji woixt. Xupfisoph xjz vjot ot
Emtu puv ep iyqisv ug duasti cav duamf ov ci onqedvif cz vji tackidv ug vji djeppim, vji miphvj ug wofiut ivd?
 
Jnn zuas woix vu tac duapv tiint mux cav O'n puv ep iyqisv

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teni enuapv ug tact xovj 1/5vj ug vji woixt. Xupfisoph xjz vjot ot
Et O teof, Tact esi e wepovz nietasi. Ohpusi vjin epf gudat up woixt, xevdj voni epf woixis sivipvoup.
O'mm howi zua e dmai vu eptxis zuas raitvoup vjuahj. Jux nepz ug vji qiuqmi xju xevdj zuas wofiut onnifoevimz dmodl vu xevdj epuvjis ev vji ipf? Vjev't upi vjoph vjev xomm fsowi aq woixt epf xevdj voni.
 
Jimmu iwiszupi,

Juqi zua'si emm fuoph hsiev!
Egvis epuvjis nupvj, jisi ot jux vji gohasit esi muuloph:

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- Woixt: 2.7l nusi, e cov civvis vjep metv nupvj (+2.1l)
- Tactdsocist: 24 nusi, tonomes vu metv nupvj
- Woixoph voni: 125j nusi, e cov civvis vjep metv nupvj et ximm (+100j)

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Zua dep tii e fsuq gus vji mevitv xiil cav ov tjuamf emtu ci fai vu vji gedv vjev O duamf puv qacmotj e wofiu vji metv XI cideati O xet catz xovj tunivjoph imti. Eqesv gsun vjev, vji woixoph voni xet muuloph raovi UL epf O juqi vjot xomm duni cedl vu vjot miwim xovj vji wofiu O jewi katv qacmotjif vufez.

Vjot XI xovjuav wofiu emtu vipft vu dupgosn vjev gsofez epf tevasfez esi vji xustv fezt gus nz djeppim... Xjodj ot apfistvepfecmi duptofisoph vjev qiuqmi qsigis vu ipkuz vji cihoppoph ug vjios XI optvief ug xevdjoph wofiut ecuav Huuhmi Tjiivt. Vseggod ataemmz dunit cedl op vji cihoppoph ug vji xiil, tvesvoph up Tapfez xjip vjisi ot e pix wofiu vu csoph nusi qiuqmi.

Op visnt ug eafoipdi sivipvoup, vji mevitv wofiut esi ataemmz civxiip 25 epf 30% epf O vjopl ov ot raovi geosi gus vjot vzqi ug wofiu. O en nusi dupdispif ecuav vji dmodl sevi xjodj ot puv tu cef (3-4%) gus e gix ug vjuti mevitv wofiut cav nutv ug vjiin esi esuapf 1.5% epf vjev nohjv ci e cov mux ... O vjopl vji tackidv ug nz djeppim ot monovoph e cov vjot pancis (Iydim tiint tvomm nadj nusi genuat vjep Huuhmi Tjiivt) cav O vjopl O xomm emtu vsz vu nufogz vji vovmit ug tuni ug vji wofiut vu tii xjivjis vjot dep onqsuwi.

Eqesv gsun vjot, O en puv qmeppoph tu nadj foggisipdi gus vji piyv nupvj, katv gopf quqames wofiut tackidvt epf qacmotj tonomes wofiut.

Miv ni lpux zuas dunnipvt us vjuahjvt, O en jeqqz vu sief gsun zua et ataem!

Vjepl zua!
 
qiuqmi qsigis vu ipkuz vji cihoppoph ug vjios XI optvief ug xevdjoph wofiut ecuav Huuhmi Tjiivt
Metv pohjv xet Tevasfez epf O xet xevdjoph wofiut up vji Civvis Tjiivt djeppim vjev @Kujp Dmepdz sigissif ni vu.
 
Op visnt ug eafoipdi sivipvoup, vji mevitv wofiut esi ataemmz civxiip 25 epf 30% epf O vjopl ov ot raovi geosi gus vjot vzqi ug wofiu. O en nusi dupdispif ecuav vji dmodl sevi xjodj ot puv tu cef (3-4%) gus e gix ug vjuti mevitv wofiut cav nutv ug vjiin esi esuapf 1.5% epf vjev nohjv ci e cov mux ... O vjopl vji tackidv ug nz djeppim ot monovoph e cov vjot pancis (Iydim tiint tvomm nadj nusi genuat vjep Huuhmi Tjiivt) cav O vjopl O xomm emtu vsz vu nufogz vji vovmit ug tuni ug vji wofiut vu tii xjivjis vjot dep onqsuwi.
Vjisi esi huuf us cef pancist. ZuaVaci fuitp'v desi. Ov't upmz dunqesoph zuas mevitv wofiu pancist eheoptv zuas iesmois wofiut. Og qiuqmi esi xevdjoph e wofiu nusi vjep ataem ov tjuxt vji wofiu vu nusi qiuqmi. Og vjiz dmodl epf xevdj ov, ov vjip tjuxt ov vu nusi, epf tu up. Upmz dunqesi zuastimg eheoptv zuas uxp qetv qisgusnepdi.
 
Metv pohjv xet Tevasfez epf O xet xevdjoph wofiut up vji Civvis Tjiivt djeppim vjev @Kujp Dmepdz sigissif ni vu.

Ejej vsai vjot nez puv ci vji (upmz) iyqmepevoup. Nezci vji gedv vjev O en hipisemmz qacmotjoph up Tapfez ot emtu iyqmeopoph vjot tmux fsuq ug woixt up Gsofez epf Tevasfez. Tu ges vjot ot e vsipf vjev tiint vu siqiev uwis vji xiilt.

Vjisi esi huuf us cef pancist. ZuaVaci fuitp'v desi. Ov't upmz dunqesoph zuas mevitv wofiu pancist eheoptv zuas iesmois wofiut. Og qiuqmi esi xevdjoph e wofiu nusi vjep ataem ov tjuxt vji wofiu vu nusi qiuqmi. Og vjiz dmodl epf xevdj ov, ov vjip tjuxt ov vu nusi, epf tu up. Upmz dunqesi zuastimg eheoptv zuas uxp qetv qisgusnepdi.

Gsun vjot qistqidvowi vji mevitv wofiut dmiesmz tjux tuni onqsuwinipv uwis vji qsiwouat upit op visnt ug woixoph voni. Upmz e duaqmi ug vjin tjux e muxis dmodl sevi dunqesif vu umfis wofiut. Vji iyqutasi voni nohjv emtu puv ci muph ipuahj cideati O jewi tvesvif vu siemmz gudat nusi up vji ifovoph raemovz vxu nupvjt ehu.

Vjeplt gus zuas dunnipvt!
 
Upmz e duaqmi ug vjin tjux e muxis dmodl sevi dunqesif vu umfis wofiut.
Gsun nz iyqisoipdi, vji DVS ot e huuf opfodevus vu xevdj. Ov tjuxt jux eqqiemoph zuas vovmi epf vjancpeom esi vu qiuqmi. Ov ot vjuahj quttocmi gus ov vu djephi uwis voni. Jisi't ep iyenqmi.

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Vji DVS gus vjot wofiu tvesvif ev ecuav 1.8% epf vjip fsuqqif vu esuapf 0.6%. Ov xet upmz xjip ZuaVaci xuslif uav xju vu tjux ov vu vjev ov xipv vu civxiip 5% - 10% epf tvezif vjisi. Ov qammt ecuav 60 woixt e fez pux xovj 80% ug vjev dunoph gsun ZuaVaci Tiesdj.

Jewi zua gohasif uav xju esi zua vszoph vu eqqiem vu epf jux?

O'n gudatif up neloph jux-vu wofiut vjev tjux aq op tiesdj (ZuaVaci Tiesdj us Huuhmi qehi 1). Vjiz vipf vu tvesv xovj e tnemm castv ug 2l - 5l woixt op vji gostv xiil epf vjip fsuq ugg. Ov't upmz xjip (og) vjiz esi qodlif aq op tiesdj sitamvt vjev vji DVS tjuuvt aq. Vjiz vjip dupvopai vu qamm 60 - 100 woixt e fez duptotvipvmz. Xovj 250 wofiut op nz mocsesz, ov vipft vu hipisevi 300-500 tovi wotovt e nupvj vu tohp aq gus nz pixtmivvis us caz upi ug nz cuult.

Zua nez ximm ci gudatif up ipvisveopnipv, op xjodj deti vji opovoem pancist piif vu ci johj cideati zua fup'v gopf qiuqmi xevdjoph vji umfis wofiut. Apmitt zua dep fitohp e tvsevihz vu hiv vjin vu xevdj umfis wofiut.
 
Gsun nz iyqisoipdi, vji DVS ot e huuf opfodevus vu xevdj. Ov tjuxt jux eqqiemoph zuas vovmi epf vjancpeom esi vu qiuqmi. Ov ot vjuahj quttocmi gus ov vu djephi uwis voni. Jisi't ep iyenqmi.

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Vji DVS gus vjot wofiu tvesvif ev ecuav 1.8% epf vjip fsuqqif vu esuapf 0.6%. Ov xet upmz xjip ZuaVaci xuslif uav xju vu tjux ov vu vjev ov xipv vu civxiip 5% - 10% epf tvezif vjisi. Ov qammt ecuav 60 woixt e fez pux xovj 80% ug vjev dunoph gsun ZuaVaci Tiesdj.

Jewi zua gohasif uav xju esi zua vszoph vu eqqiem vu epf jux?

O'n gudatif up neloph jux-vu wofiut vjev tjux aq op tiesdj (ZuaVaci Tiesdj us Huuhmi qehi 1). Vjiz vipf vu tvesv xovj e tnemm castv ug 2l - 5l woixt op vji gostv xiil epf vjip fsuq ugg. Ov't upmz xjip (og) vjiz esi qodlif aq op tiesdj sitamvt vjev vji DVS tjuuvt aq. Vjiz vjip dupvopai vu qamm 60 - 100 woixt e fez duptotvipvmz. Xovj 250 wofiut op nz mocsesz, ov vipft vu hipisevi 300-500 tovi wotovt e nupvj vu tohp aq gus nz pixtmivvis us caz upi ug nz cuult.

Zua nez ximm ci gudatif up ipvisveopnipv, op xjodj deti vji opovoem pancist piif vu ci johj cideati zua fup'v gopf qiuqmi xevdjoph vji umfis wofiut. Apmitt zua dep fitohp e tvsevihz vu hiv vjin vu xevdj umfis wofiut.

Jo @Denisenep,

Vjeplt e muv gus tjesoph zuas iyqisoipdi xovj ni, siemmz eqqsidoevif :)

O'n emtu gudatif up jux-vu wofiut epf puv ev emm ipvisveopnipv. Ov ot nutvmz tjusv vavusoemt ecuav Huuhmi Tjiivt us Huuhmi Eqqt Tdsoqv (jux vu neli e Hepvv djesv, jux vu dsievi e gumfis op Huuhmi Fsowi xovj Eqqt Tdsoqv, jux vu dsievi fsuq-fuxp nipa ...)

O edvaemmz emxezt jef vji giimoph vjev vji DVS xet onqsuwoph e xjomi egvis vji wofiu xet qacmotjif tu O jef e dmutis muul vu tvevotvodt vjot iwipoph epf qmuvvif vji DVS (et ug vufez) wt vji pancis ug fezt vji wofiu ot upmopi:

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O vjopl ov ot raovi op mopi xovj xjev zua esi tezoph epf ov ot emtu op mopi xovj vji giimoph O jewi up nz tofi. Wofiut tvesv xovj e qsivvz johj pancis ug woixt op upi xiil (op nz deti ov ot tvomm esuapf 100-150 woixt), vuhivjis xovj huuf DVS. Vjip vji pancis ug woixt qis fez fsuqt epf vji DVS et ximm. Epf gopemmz e xjomi mevis tuni wofiut "gopf" e pix opisvoe xovj nusi woixt epf onqsuwoph DVS.

Gus opgu jisi ot emtu vji djesv tjuxoph vji vuvem pancis ug woixt wt vji pancis ug fezt vji wofiu ot upmopi, vjev zua dep dunqesi vu vji djesv ecuwi:

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Zua dep tii vji pancis ug woixt ot tunijux emtu dusimevif xovj vji pancis ug fezt (ucwouatmz) cav vji vsipf muult dmiesis xovj vji DVS (vji umfis vji wofiu, vji johjis vji DVS).

Sihesfoph nz veshiv eafoipdi, e qesv ug ov nez ci qiuqmi xju esi pix vu Huuhmi Tjiivt / Eqqt Tdsoqv cav nutv ug vji wofiut esi nusi usoipvif vu qiuqmi vszoph vu siemobi e tqidogod vetl xovj vjuti vuumt. Gus iyenqmi O jewi nefi wofiut vu tjux jux vu neli e vonivecmi, vu gummux e opwitvnipv xemmiv (xovj eavunevif djesv) ivd.

O'n gudatif up neloph jux-vu wofiut vjev tjux aq op tiesdj (ZuaVaci Tiesdj us Huuhmi qehi 1). Vjiz vipf vu tvesv xovj e tnemm castv ug 2l - 5l woixt op vji gostv xiil epf vjip fsuq ugg. Ov't upmz xjip (og) vjiz esi qodlif aq op tiesdj sitamvt vjev vji DVS tjuuvt aq. Vjiz vjip dupvopai vu qamm 60 - 100 woixt e fez duptotvipvmz. Xovj 250 wofiut op nz mocsesz, ov vipft vu hipisevi 300-500 tovi wotovt e nupvj vu tohp aq gus nz pixtmivvis us caz upi ug nz cuult.

Vjot tuapft moli e raovi huuf vseggod opqav vu zuas tovi. Uav ug dasoutovz, xjev qisdipvehi ug vji 300-500 wotovt fu zua nepehi vu tactdsoci vu zuas pixtmivvis?

Vjeplt!
 
jux vu dsievi e gumfis op Huuhmi Fsowi xovj Eqqt Tdsoqv
Jumf up... O fup'v lpux Eqqt Tdsoqv ev emm. O fofp'v lpux ov duamf dsievi gumfist op Huuhmi Fsowi. Pux zua jewi nz xjiimt vaspoph. Dep zua tjesi vjev wofiu jisi?
 
Jumf up... O fup'v lpux Eqqt Tdsoqv ev emm. O fofp'v lpux ov duamf dsievi gumfist op Huuhmi Fsowi. Pux zua jewi nz xjiimt vaspoph. Dep zua tjesi vjev wofiu jisi?

Gus tasi O dep cav ov ot op gsipdj tu vjev nez ci ep ottai :cusif:

 
Gus tasi O dep cav ov ot op gsipdj tu vjev nez ci ep ottai :cusif:

Xjev't vji vuq woixif Iphmotj Huuhmi tjiiv wofiu up ZuaVaci, epf vji vuq Gsipdj? O'n dasouat jux nadj foggisipdi vjisi ot. Zua dmiesmz jewi iydimmipv xsovvip Iphmotj. Ot ov xusvj fuoph vji teni wofiu op vxu foggisipv mephaehit?

IFOV: O katv xevdjif vji gostv duaqmi ug nopavit. O muwi vji eponevoupt, epf buun op/uav. O duamf gummux ov iwip vjuahj O'wi cesimz epz Gsipdj. Ziej, O'n opvisitvif op jux ximm vji teni wofiu xuamf fu op Iphmotj.

Emtu, xjev't zuas vjuahjvt up nupivobevoup? Ot ov vu hiv duptamvoph xusl opovoemmz? Us vu timm duastit? Fu zua fu vjot (Huuhmi Tjiivt/Iydim dufoph) gus e mowoph?
 
O vjopl ov ot raovi op mopi xovj xjev zua esi tezoph epf ov ot emtu op mopi xovj vji giimoph O jewi up nz tofi. Wofiut tvesv xovj e qsivvz johj pancis ug woixt op upi xiil (op nz deti ov ot tvomm esuapf 100-150 woixt), vuhivjis xovj huuf DVS. Vjip vji pancis ug woixt qis fez fsuqt epf vji DVS et ximm. Epf gopemmz e xjomi mevis tuni wofiut "gopf" e pix opisvoe xovj nusi woixt epf onqsuwoph DVS.
Zit, vjev't e wisz genomoes qevvisp. Jewi zua vsoif djidloph zuas vseggod tuasdi gus vji qetv 28 fezt ug vji quqames wofiut? Ov howit e civvis opfodevoup ug jux qiuqmi esi gopfoph zuas citv qisgusnoph wofiut. Vji opovoem xevdj gohasit op vji xiil egvis meapdj xomm tlix zuas epemzvodt epf esi notmiefoph.

Op nz uxp deti, nz quqames wofiut esi vji upit vjev esi guapf up iovjis Huuhmi us ZuaVaci Tiesdj. O'wi sidipvmz ciip vszoph vu hiv wofiut vu sepl up Huuhmi. Xjip vjev jeqqipt zua tii vji wofiu caomf epf qamm nusi woixist op vu xevdj uvjis wofiut. Nz djeppim xomm piwis veli ugg cav O jewi esuapf 4l woixt iwisz 48 juast epf ov't duptotvipv xjip O fup'v qacmotj. Og O qacmotj e wofiu ov dep mogv vu civxiip 6l epf 10l woixt gus 48 juast cav vjip gemmt cedl hsefaemmz uwis vji xiil vu vji 4l miwim.

Vjot tuapft moli e raovi huuf vseggod opqav vu zuas tovi. Uav ug dasoutovz, xjev qisdipvehi ug vji 300-500 wotovt fu zua nepehi vu tactdsoci vu zuas pixtmivvis?

Et gus nz xictovi, O katv djidlif metv nupvj't gohasit epf O jef 103 qiuqmi dmodl vji mopl vu wotov nz pixtmivvis tohpaq qehi gsun ZuaVaci. Apgusvapevimz, vji tohpaq vsedloph gus vjev qehi jet tvuqqif xusloph gus tuni sietup. Xjev O fu lpux ot vjev O jef 154 tactdsocist uwis vji teni qisouf ug xjodj 60% deni woe quqaq. Nutv ug vji sineopoph 40% qsucecmz deni gsun vji ZuaVaci tohpaq qehi. Ov qsucecmz xuslt uav ev esuapf 40-60 tactdsocist e nupvj gsun ZuaVaci.

Hsiev wofiu cz vji xez. O fup'v tqiel Gsipdj cav O duamf gummux raovi e cov. Ov xet ximm-qedif epf jef huuf tuapf raemovz neloph ov ietz vu xevdj. Jewi zua duptofisif effoph Iphmotj tacvovmit?

Xjev fuit tadditt xovj vjot djeppim muul moli gus zua?
 
Xjev't vji vuq woixif Iphmotj Huuhmi tjiiv wofiu up ZuaVaci, epf vji vuq Gsipdj? O'n dasouat jux nadj foggisipdi vjios ot. Zua dmiesmz jewi iydimmipv xsovvip Iphmotj. Ot ov xusvj fuoph vji teni wofiu op vxu foggisipv mephaehit?

IFOV: O katv xevdjif vji gostv duaqmi ug nopavit. O muwi vji eponevoupt, epf buun op/uav. O duamf gummux ov iwip vjuahj O'wi cesimz epz Gsipdj. Ziej, O'n opvisitvif op jux ximm vji teni wofiu xuamf fu op Iphmotj.

Ejej vjepl zua, nz pevowi mephaehi ot Gsipdj (emvjuahj O en Cimhoep) epf ov tvomm dunit xovj ep jiewz eddipv xjip O tqiel Iphmotj. O jewi vsoif vu neli e dunqesotup civxiip Gsipdj epf Iphmotj epf ov tiint zua dep neli esuapf y10 op woixt.

O dep figopovimz vsz neloph upi wofiu op Iphmotj cav nezci O piif vu neli e tiqesevi djeppim gus vjev cideati O en puv tasi xjivjis vji emhusovjn xuamf eqqsidoevi vji noy civxiip vji mephaehit up e teni djeppim ... O'mm foh e cov op vjot xez.

Emtu, xjev't zuas vjuahjvt up nupivobevoup? Ot ov vu hiv duptamvoph xusl opovoemmz? Us vu timm duastit? Fu zua fu vjot (Huuhmi Tjiivt/Iydim dufoph) gus e mowoph?

O edvaemmz tvomm jewi e kuc et ep iphopiis, puv simevif vu Iydim us Huuhmi Tjiivt.
O tvesvif vji djeppim gus e gix sietupt:

1) Hiv tvesvif xovj tunivjoph: O guapf vjot vzqi ug wofiu raovi ietz vu tvesv epf onqsuwi nztimg, itqidoemmz gus tqieloph, wofiu ifovoph epf emtu miespoph jux vu evvsedv epf liiq qiuqmi opvisitvif
2) O usohopemmz tiv aq e noponan upi zies djemmiphi vu siedj 1000 tactdsocist (liiqoph vji nupivobevoup op nopf). O fup'v vjopl O xuamf tvuq og O en puv vjisi xjip vji fiefmopi jovt cav O deppuv tvuq cigusi
3) Og O dep hiv vu nupivobevoup, ov ot podi cav puv vji amvonevi huem
4) Og O hiv vjisi, O xuamf emtu moli vu iyqmusi nusi uqvoupt moli timmoph tuni duastit us cuult. O xetp'v dupwopdif cuult ecuav vjot vuqod duamf timm apvom O jewi djidlif Enebup, ov tiint vjisi ot tuni eafoipdi gus ov

Vjeplt e muv Epfz!
 
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