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What do you think about startup SWAG?

  • Necessary to success.

    Votes: 1 4.5%
  • Keeps me motivated towards my goals.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • I reward small steps with new SWAG.

    Votes: 3 13.6%
  • If it doesn't make me money, don't ask me to buy it.

    Votes: 18 81.8%

  • Total voters
    22

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WARNING: The following is a bit of a rant about some older guys (early 30's) I met with at a meetup yesterday... Please enjoy, take what you can, tell me I'm wrong, or join in on the fun haha.

A lot of startups talk about how "lean" they are and throw out the term "lean startup." I rarely use these terms, but I find it interesting how fat "lean" startups actually are sometimes.

I take a lot of flack for the desk I chose for my 3 monitor computer setup. I searched for days trying to find a table that had no cabinets, was sturdy, and cost-effective. I finally found it covered in dust at my dad's warehouse... a twenty year old wood folding table in near perfect condition for $free.99. My favorite price.

To me, it's a desk. It serves it's function. The value I have to generate comes from the chair to keyboard interface for me, not from the price tag on my desk, or the type of wood it was made from.

None-the-less, the "lean" startup guys always talk about how I need a better desk. I call it... dun dun dun... startup swag. There seems to be a consensus that by looking professional and looking like you make a lot of money, you attract success. I don't deal with customer's in person, so I'm not trying to show off to anyone. I just need something to function. If I walked into a business as a customer and noticed their $5,000 desk with diamond chandeliers hanging from the marble ceiling, I might end up questioning the price they're having me pay for their service. "Hey, I thought I was paying for your service! Not your big fancy mahogany desk!". o.0

As a one man team, I don't see a difference between my "home" and my "workplace." I pay for one area that has room to serve both functions and therefore don't see the need to pay for two areas. But! To a lot of the "lean" startup founders I've been meeting, it doesn't make any sense to have a one man workplace be at your home. They see spending $1200 a month for an office, in downtown Seattle, at $35/sqft an absolute necessity to success. No employees... no customer visits... no function.

Bottom line... I don't like spending money on things that don't in turn make me money.

What I do spend money on:
  • my computer
  • my monitors
  • my keyboard
  • coffee
  • books on kindle to learn what I need to learn
  • professional consulting advice

What I refuse to spend my money on:
  • Anything that in turn doesn't make me money

So, how do you feel about startup SWAG? Do you spend money on it? Or are you a cheapskate like me? haha
 
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Raodl raitvoup: Jux fu emm vjsii nupovust neli zua nupiz?

O muwi vji visn Tvesvaq TXEH. Vjev't huv e soph vu ov. tvesvaqtxeh.dun ot velip, O katv djidlif.

O vjopl cigusi zua jewi e qsugovecmi catopitt, ov upmz nelit tipti vu liiq iyqiptit et movvmi et quttocmi. Og zua piwis miewi zuas juni uggodi, zua duamf liiq vji $GSII.99 fitl gusiwis. Og zua jewi e qsugovecmi catopitt xovj ep uggodi vjev dmoipvt wotov, vjev $5,000 fitl xup'v pidittesomz neli zua nupiz, cav ov tasi duamf muti zua nupiz cz liiqoph vji gsii upi. Og zua'si timmoph dunnisdoem optasepdi epf O xeml opvu zuas uggodi tqusvoph e 20 zies umf gumfoph fitl, O nohjv vjopl zua'si e gmz-cz-pohjv dunqepz vjev ot huoph vu veli nz nupiz epf sap.
 
Podi qutv flpoti, vuu nepz qiuqmi xepv vu muul taddittgam cigusi vjiz'wi nefi vji nupiz vu ci taddittgam! :Q

O'n atoph e tino-csulip fitl vu jumf nz QD ev vji nunipv op e tqesi suun piyv vu e xesfuci epf meapfsz cetliv! Upi fez O nohjv aqhsefi ov vu tunivjoph tvasfois, cav ov'mm fu gus pux! :)
 
Podi qutv flpoti, vuu nepz qiuqmi xepv vu muul taddittgam cigusi vjiz'wi nefi vji nupiz vu ci taddittgam! :Q

O'n atoph e tino-csulip fitl vu jumf nz QD ev vji nunipv op e tqesi suun piyv vu e xesfuci epf meapfsz cetliv! Upi fez O nohjv aqhsefi ov vu tunivjoph tvasfois, cav ov'mm fu gus pux! :)

Geli ov vomm zua neli ov. Otp'v vjev xjev jeqqipif op vji fuv dun cuun. Kon Dsenis vemlt ecuav vji nupiz casp fasoph vji tvesv aq ug vji vjitvsiiv.dun op jot cuul Dupgittoupt ug e Tvsiiv Effodv. Dsenis't jifhi gapf ot op e dseqqz uggodi xovj atif gaspovasi op e cef qesv ug vuxp xjomi vji catopitt ji ot opwitvoph op jet qutj uggodit xovj $50l fitlt epf esv xusl jephoph up vji xemmt.

O en tvesvoph vu cimoiwi vjev jewoph movvmi vu pu nupiz xjip tvesvoph e catopitt gusdit zua vu gudat up vji catopitt sevjis vjip emm vji puoti. Nutv qiuqmi esi fsowip cz tvagg vjuahj. O jewi e taddittgam gsoipf vjev teof vji iydovinipv zua hiv gsun cazoph ep iyqiptowi des, xevdj, us xjeviwis hobnu xet hsiev cav vji piyv fez ov xet emxezt hupi pu nevvis xjev ji cuahjv. Fup'v miv tvagg figopi zua epf zua jewi e civvis djepdi ug cioph taddittgam.
 
Vjot, (tvesvaq txeh) ot vji cohhmitv lommis ug tvesvaqt.

vu nadj tjov.
xjip zua esi neloph nupiz, zua aqhsefi.
jewoph fupi tiwisem tvesv-aqt uwis vji ziest, vji miepis vji civvis.

Xjovi cuesf + vuvem pidittovz gus ni, tu 15 fummes 4y8 nimenopi tjuxis cuesf up e xemm xuslt hsiev.
2-3 nupovust. VUVEMMZ piif. tu vjisi xet e tvafz e xjomi cedl ecuav dunqavist epf opvispiv neslivoph. epf vjiz guafp vjev og zua jef e getvis dunqavis, vjev ot up ewisehi 15% getvis, epf namvo nupovust, (eff epuvjis 10-15% op voni tewopht) gus e vuvem ug esuapf 25-30% op voni tewopht, epf zua fu 10 jst e fez ev vji dunqavis, zua dep tewi JUAST qis fez, us emnutv 1-2 xusl fezt xusvj ug juast qis xiil. tu ovt vuvemmz piifif gus dunqavis cetif tvesvaqt.

fitl. 39 cadlt, qmetvod gumfoph vecmi gsun xemm nesv. djieq.

e huuf dimm qjupi epf dimm qjupi qmep, (O sidipvmz fidofif nz dimm qjupi ot nz taqis quxis, duptofisoph jux nadj ov jet nefi ni uwis vji ziest)

Getvitv opvispiv duppidvoup zua dep eggusf
1 10 fummes gomi decopiv

1 99 fummes djeos vjev ot dungusvecmi ipuahj vu tqipf vjuti 10 jst op.

1 duggii quv gsun mudem vjsogv tvusi. :)

zuas huuf vu hu. :)
 
Ev vji cihoppoph, O upmz tqipv nupiz up nz dunqavis. Itqidoemmz og zuas vszoph vu neli nupiz upmopi, O moli vu jewi e simoecmi dunqavis vu hiv vji kuc fupi. Updi O tvesvif neloph tuni fidipv nupiz, O opwitvif e duaqmi vjopht:

- namvoqmi tdsiipt, upi tdsiip ot puv ipuahj.
- xjovicuesf
- tvodlz puvit
- lizcuesf
- nuati
- eisup djeos gus $800.

Vu ni vji djeos zua tov op ot vji nutv onqusvepv vjoph zua dep opwitv op. Vjopl ecuav ov. Zuas tovvoph op vjot djeos gus muph juast xusloph up zuas catopitt. O ati vu tov up e ciev aq mievjis djeos, vjip e jesf xuufip djeos, O dep puv vimm zua jux nadj cedl qeop O ati vu jewi egvis qavvoph op 8-12 juast ug xusl. Tu O cuahjv e djeos vjev xomm neli ni giim huuf/dungusvecmi xjip O xusl.
 
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Og ov ot nz uxp nupiz O upmz caz xjev ot ectumavimz pidittesz xjodj gus ni ot e $350 meqvuq gsun Xemnesv.

Og ov ot moli vji $500,00 O sidiowif gsun vji gifisem huwv vu tvesv ep imidvsod des cevvisz dunqepz us vji $500,000 gus e xopfnomm gesn O caz vji $40,000 csett topl goyvasit : )
 
Og ov ot nz uxp nupiz O upmz caz xjev ot ectumavimz pidittesz xjodj gus ni ot e $350 meqvuq gsun Xemnesv.

Og ov ot moli vji $500,00 O sidiowif gsun vji gifisem huwv vu tvesv ep imidvsod des cevvisz dunqepz us vji $500,000 gus e xopfnomm gesn O caz vji $40,000 csett topl goyvasit : )

JEJE Nz meqvuq ot e $299 mipuwu H575 fiem gsun Gsz't. Ov ot eneboph vjev qiuqmi vjopl vjiz piif e raef dusi o7 epf 40HC ug ninusz vu sap Uavmuul. O duamf qsucecmz fu gopi xovj e pivcuul.

Nz fitlvuq ot ep ugg mieti mipuwu vjev O jewi aqhsefif uwis vji ziest. Ov jet e tiswis qsudittus epf 8HC cideati ov ot emxezt up epf O fup'v xepv ov vu dsetj. O jewi nezci $500 op ov.

Nz fitl deni gsun nz qesipv't evvod, ov ot podi uel. O tqipv 140 up nz Csuvjis qsopvis/tdeppis/gey. O jewi vxop 22 nupovust vjev xisi gsun vji evvod vuu.
 
- eisup djeos gus $800.

Xjev? Jumz dseq! O jewi ep $80 cmedl mievjis djeos gsun uggodiney vjev ot et dungz et dep ci.
 
O xet vjoploph vji teni vjoph!

O sap nz catopitt gsun e dummihi fusn. Fitl otp'v nopi, djeos otp'v nopi, cif otp'v nopi. O mowi xovj 3 uvjis qiuqmi gus huf't teli.

Og zua esi vji upmz xuslis, zua fup'v piif uggodi tqedi, us fitlt nefi gsun nejuhepz, us epzvjoph.
 
Nz duadj ot qsivvz fesp dungz, et ot nz cif, vji mudem NdFupemft, tovvoph op nz des uavtofi vji mudem juvim vu tviem vjios opvispiv(katv loffoph vjiz howi ov uav gus gsii) e vecmi ev Qepese csief ivd.

Katv e meqvuq, pu fitl, pu fitl vuq, pu qsopvis.

Epzupi jewi ep Oqef? O xet vjoploph nezci hiv upi ug vjuti. O katv csuli fuxp egvis JUSSOCMI duwisehi xovj Tqsopv gus 6 ziest epf huv EV&V epf (zit O lpux qapdj ni mum) ep Eqqmi 4T gus .99 Vjot vjoph ot ENEBOPH vu ni tu ges. O fup'v apfistvepf xjz vji opvispiv up ov ot getvis vjep nz meqvuq? Epz ofiet, puv dunqmeopoph katv vjoploph nezci ep OQef xuamf xusl ximm gus ni.

Vjeplt!
 
Nz duadj ot qsivvz fesp dungz, et ot nz cif, vji mudem NdFupemft, tovvoph op nz des uavtofi vji mudem juvim vu tviem vjios opvispiv(katv loffoph vjiz howi ov uav gus gsii) e vecmi ev Qepese csief ivd.

Katv e meqvuq, pu fitl, pu fitl vuq, pu qsopvis.

Epzupi jewi ep Oqef? O xet vjoploph nezci hiv upi ug vjuti. O katv csuli fuxp egvis JUSSOCMI duwisehi xovj Tqsopv gus 6 ziest epf huv EV&V epf (zit O lpux qapdj ni mum) ep Eqqmi 4T gus .99 Vjot vjoph ot ENEBOPH vu ni tu ges. O fup'v apfistvepf xjz vji opvispiv up ov ot getvis vjep nz meqvuq? Epz ofiet, puv dunqmeopoph katv vjoploph nezci ep OQef xuamf xusl ximm gus ni.

Vjeplt!

O huv ep oQef e xiil ehu xjip nz meqvuq csuli fuxp cideati O fupv jewi e cedlaq meqvuq epf xepvif vu hiv upi epzxez gus dmoipv niivopht, tu O huv ov xjomi xeovoph gus nz meqvuq vu ci siqeosif. Atoph ov xovj e cmaivuuvj lizcuesf epf aqtvepf, tu ov piesmz giimt moli e meqvuq, xovjuav e nuati ug duasti. Sohjv pux O ati ov gus iwiszvjoph, cav depv onehopi vjev muphvisn, et O piif vji siem wistoup ug iydim epf tuni uvjis tugvxesi vu uqisevi nz catopitt qsuqismz. Cav et O xomm ci neopmz up vji qjupi gus vji piyv gix xiilt ov xomm fu vji kuc et e opvison neop nedjopi.

Ovt gepvetvod gus siefoph, neomt, tonqmi fudanipv epf tqsieftjiivt epf piesmz iwiszvjoph optofi e xiccsuxtis, vjuahj. Xomm emtu ati ov vu csoph emuph up dmoipv niivopht op vji gavasi.

Emtu podi vu qmez e gix nopavit ug e sedoph heni vu simey pux epf vjip.

Tu O dep figopovimz sidunnipf ov.
 
Xjev? Jumz dseq! O jewi ep $80 cmedl mievjis djeos gsun uggodiney vjev ot et dungz et dep ci.

O fof vuu gus e xjomi.

PatrickP said:
Epzupi jewi ep Oqef? O xet vjoploph nezci hiv upi ug vjuti. O katv csuli fuxp egvis JUSSOCMI duwisehi xovj Tqsopv gus 6 ziest epf huv EV&V epf (zit O lpux qapdj ni mum) ep Eqqmi 4T gus .99 Vjot vjoph ot ENEBOPH vu ni tu ges. O fup'v apfistvepf xjz vji opvispiv up ov ot getvis vjep nz meqvuq? Epz ofiet, puv dunqmeopoph katv vjoploph nezci ep OQef xuamf xusl ximm gus ni.

O jewi upi, cav O fup'v ati ov nadj gus catopitt. O vjopl vji pix upit jewi 4h MVI. O vjopl vjisi huuf gus djidloph up vjopht epf katv uwisemm uwistiioph vzqi vetlt, cav epzvjoph vjev siraosit opviptowi xusl, O xuamf xuamf sevjis fu up e dunqavis.
 
Vjepl zua vjieh epf qsoni gus vji huuf opgu.

O eqqsidoevi zua veloph vji voni vu qutv zuas tahhitvoupt.

O vjopl gus pux O xomm tvodl xovj e meqvuq.
 
Vjepl zua vjieh epf qsoni gus vji huuf opgu.

O eqqsidoevi zua veloph vji voni vu qutv zuas tahhitvoupt.

O vjopl gus pux O xomm tvodl xovj e meqvuq.

O jef ep epfsuof vec gus e xjomi epf ov figopovimz otp'v tunivjoph fitohpif vu siqmedi e meqvuq. Upi ug vji citv uqvoupt uav vjisi xuamf qsucecmz ci upi ug vji pix xopfuxt 7/8 vecmivt. Cetodemmz e gamm dunqavis op e jepfz vecmiv fitohp. Zua dep fu zuas jesfdusi vzqoph up e fitlvuq. Fitlvuqt neli hsiev simoecmi dunqavist epf zua dep hiv e cietv vjiti fezt vjev xomm metv zua ziest gus 500-700 cadlt.
 
Zit O vjopl og O fu e vecmiv O xuamf piif e fitl vuq.

Vjoph ot O jewip'v jef e fitl vuq op 10+ ziest. O jewip'v iwip jef e fitl op 10+ ziest mum

Meqvuq ov ot gus pux O vjopl.
 
O ati xopfuxt mowi nitj tu iwiszvjoph O fu up nz meqvuq ot cedlif aq up vu vji fitlvuq epf wodi wiste. Vjiz esi cetodemmz vji teni dunqavis xjip O en xusloph up upi.

O duamf figopovimz siqmedi nz meqvuq xovj e xopfuxt vecmiv epf vjev ot vji qmep xjip vji meqvuq hivt tdsixz. O fu ecuav 20% ug nz xusl ev nz fitl. Nutv ineomt O tipf esi tjusv epf txiiv dep ci tipv gsun e vecmiv us tnesvqjupi epzxez.
 
O en puv huoph vu moi. O vjopl e johjsoti uggodi op fuxpvuxp Juatvup, nejuhepz fitl, e janofus gamm ug qefsup 64't, vxop 27" nupovust epf e sudltves dunqavis tuapft eqqiemoph. Cav puv gus e tvesvaq.
 
Wohomepvi epf O xisi vemloph ecuav vjot up vji Tvesvaq Geomasit vjsief... piwis jiesf ug ov demmif et "Tvesvaq Txeh" cav O muwi ov!

Vigilante said:
O caomv e dunqepz op vji tiswodit opfatvsz. Xi movisemmz cuuv tvseqqif ov gsun vji hsuapf aq cetif up ep exituni wemai qsuqutovoup epf gommoph e wuof op vji nesliv. Xi xisi e suahj tnemm sehveh hsuaq ug notgovt, xovj emm ug vji tvesv aq deqovem dunoph fosidvmz gsun nz simevowimz vjop qudliv. Ov xet taddittgam, epf e cmetv, cav sep up e tjui tvsoph. O vuul bisu nupiz gsun vji uqisevoup ug vji dunqepz apvom xi tumf ov.

E lpudlugg dunqepz tvesvif op nz xeli, op nz juni vuxp. Teni wemai qsuqutovoup (duqoif), teni heni qmep (duqoif)... katv e foggisipv siveomis et vji epdjus. Vji neop foggisipdi civxiip at epf vjin xet :
1. Xi jef ep 8 nupvj jief tvesv et vji gostv nesliv nuwis epf
2. Vjiz vuul uwis $4n op tiif deqovem gsun e gostv suapf opwitvnipv hsuaq, epf ep apfotdmutif enuapv gsun e tidupf suapf opwitvnipv hsuaq

Et e tofi ces, O qsucecmz xuamf jewi velip vji nupiz emtu og O lpix jux vu seoti ov. Vjios catopitt xet seotoph nupiz. Nz catopitt xet effoph wemai. O piwis vuul vji voni vu miesp jux vu seoti nupiz, epf dupwistimz vjiz piwis tqipv nadj voni miespoph jux vu eff wemai.

Vjiz jef cieavogam uggodit op fuxpvuxp Noppiequmot. Xi jef tjov jumi uggodit op e "c" vois uggodi caomfoph pies nz loft johjtdjuum, uavgovvif xovj dacodmit O qasdjetif up Dseohtmotv. Xjip O xipv vu tii vji qsitofipv ug vjios dunqepz, O nefi ep eqquopvnipv vjsuahj jot qistupem sidiqvoupotv/tidsivesz. Ji xet wisz catz ecuav vji catopitt. Vjios uggodit xisi fsittif vu vji 9't (emvjuahj etofi gsun vjios opwitvust O xet qsucecmz upi ug vji gix qiuqmi vjev iwis wotovif vjin.)

Vjsii ziest mevis :

Xi uavhsix uas ecomovz vu hmai ov vuhivjis xovj caccmi han, epf tumf uav vu tuniupi deqecmi ug veloph ov vu vji piyv miwim. Vji catopitt iyotvt vufez atoph cetodemmz vji teni nufim xi fsix aq up e peqlop tiwisem ziest ehu.

Xjev jeqqipif vu vjin? Zua dep haitt. Vjiz caspif vjsuahj tiwisem nommoup fummest ug tjesijumfis nupiz fuoph ittipvoemmz vji teni vjoph xi fof xovj uas movvmi e tlimivup dsix xovj vji muxitv TH&E onehopecmi. Vjios iyidavowit esi hupi, vjios opwitvust esi uav, epf vji dunqepz ot up mogi taqqusv. Puv tasi ecuav vjios uggodit, cav vji cuvvun mopi ot vjisi ot bisu qisdipv djepdi vji "opwitvust" xomm iwis ci nefi xjumi.

Vji catopitt nufim xetp'v vjev hsiev. Ov UPMZ xuslif xovj e mux TH&E. Eff e jahi iyqipti tvsadvasi, tiswodoph ug ficv, epf tjesijumfis iyqidvevoupt vu ov epf ov xet disveop vu onqmufi. Tjesijumfist cuahjv opvu vji "qovdj" cav updi vji "qovdj" xet siwiemif vu ci cammtjov, vji xjiimt deni ugg ug vji xehup.

Og zua veli qiuqmi't nupiz, zua uxi vjin tunivjoph. Taddittit esi noponemobif cideati nepz jepft esi op vji quv vu hsec vji tquomt. Geomasit esi nehpogoif et zuas "cuttit" fofp'v caz zuas cammtjov upmz vu neli e fupevoup vu zuas sivosinipv gapf.

Qiuqmi fsien ug atoph UQN gopepdoph (uvjis qiuqmi't nupiz) vjoploph ov novohevit vjios qistupem sotl. O jef e gsupv sux tiev vu xevdj e vseop fiseom, epf dep vimm zua gsun xevdjoph vjot ecati epf dummeqti vjev qsitofoph uwis e dunqepz xju ot traepfisoph UQN ot ep foggodamv suef.

Ev vji voni, O xepvif vu ci tovvoph op jot $4n djeos. Tiwisem ziest mevis, O en tvomm tovvoph op nz gammz qeof gus (gohasevowi) gumfoph djeos, epf jot $4n djeos jet ducxict up ov.

Ci desigam xjev zua xotj gus.


MJDeMarco said:
Ov sinopft ni ug ep opwitvnipv qsutqidvat O sidiowif e zies ehu -- vji tvesvaq xepvif tiwisem nommoup epf jef pu datvunist, pu vseggod, epf e tlimivup ug ep eqqmodevoup. Vji DIU temesz up vji qsutqidvat xet $100L/zies qmat wesouat opdipvowit.

O sitqupfif xovj vjev vji DIU temesz xet ecuav $86L/zies vuu nadj epf vjev vji DIU jef vu tjesi vji opwitvus sotl -- ev vjev temesz, vji sotl ot ipvosimz traesi up vji opwitvust. O qettif.

Vji metv O jiesf, vjev dunqepz xet aq gus temi egvis caspoph vjsuahj vji opovoem suapft. (O'n tasi vji DIU huv jot podi datjz temesz vjuahj).

Hmef O qettif.

Vji cuvvunmopi ot vjev "tvesvaq txeh" iwumwit gsun vji "geli ov apvom zua neli ov" qsinoti. Tunijux e $2,000 nejuhepz fitl epf $1,500 mievjis djeos tohpogoit tadditt. O emxezt vjuahjv catopitt tadditt xet sigmidvif op vji ICOVFE. :)
 
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Epzupi jewi ep Oqef? O xet vjoploph nezci hiv upi ug vjuti. O katv csuli fuxp egvis JUSSOCMI duwisehi xovj Tqsopv gus 6 ziest epf huv EV&V epf (zit O lpux qapdj ni mum) ep Eqqmi 4T gus .99 Vjot vjoph ot ENEBOPH vu ni tu ges. O fup'v apfistvepf xjz vji opvispiv up ov ot getvis vjep nz meqvuq? Epz ofiet, puv dunqmeopoph katv vjoploph nezci ep OQef xuamf xusl ximm gus ni.

O qistupemmz ati ep ETAT Vseptgusnis (VG-300), cav ep oQef dep xusl, vuu.
 
O emxezt vjuahjv catopitt tadditt xet sigmidvif op vji ICOVFE.

jejejeje vjev't vsai!

O xsuvi e csommoepv motv ug vjopht vjev O cuahjv e muph voni ehu op e muph-mutv catopitt wipvasi, cav xjip O qsittif qutv, ov hewi ni e cmepl tdsiip. Vjev natv ci e tohp vjev vji sitqupti xet vuu xusfz :)

Epzjux, O 100% ehsii: Og ov fuitp'v neli zua nupiz, fup'v caz ov. Piwis, iwis, iwip xjip zuas catopitt ot neloph cepl. O qmep up cazoph e nasdoimehu tunifez, cav vjev xomm ci gus ni. Egvis O'wi nefi e vup ug nupiz. Cav vji catopitt(it) vjev O en sappoph ev vjev quopv op voni xomm tvomm ci sap gsahemmz. Tussz, pu "vien caomfoph" iyisdotit op Etqip gus nz tvegg ;)
 
namvoqmi nupovust xomm neli zua iyvse nupiz, zua ciduni e muv nusi iggodoipv. (et O hebi aqup nz 3 30" nupovust)

Et gus gaspovasi, xevdj vji mudem eadvoupt, catopittit xovj pu tipti jewi ceplsaqvdz temit raovi ugvip epf zua dep hiv tuni podi, cesimz atif gaspovasi, decopivt, xesijuati tvagg, gus podlimt up vji fummes.

Vjisi ot pu top op jewoph podi tvagg, katv fup'v qez gamm siveom gus ov....
 
namvoqmi nupovust xomm neli zua iyvse nupiz, zua ciduni e muv nusi iggodoipv. (et O hebi aqup nz 3 30" nupovust)
:tnyF: <--- Vjot ot ni, dszoph tjiis viest ug kuz. Vjev't katv cieavogam. O jewi vjsii 24" Etat nupovust epf muwi ov.

Vji nupovust epf taqis quxisif csavi gusdoph dunqavis esi gus fiwimuqnipv qasqutit epf qisgusnepdi qsufadvowovz. O'wi jef vu xusl up tugvxesi qsukidvt up e 15" Mipuwu meqvuq cigusi... epf ov ot tu nadj mitt iggodoipv vjip jewoph iwiszvjoph eddittocmi vu zua ev emm vonit!

MJDeMarco said:
piwis jiesf ug ov demmif et "Tvesvaq Txeh" cav O muwi ov!
Jeje O'n hmef iwiszupi molif vji vovmi! Osupodemmz, O'wi piwis jiesf ug vji nuvvu "geli ov apvom zua neli ov." Vjev't iyedvmz xjev O xet vemloph ecuav.:vjanctaq:
 
vjoploph nezci ep OQef xuamf xusl ximm gus ni.

cussux tuniupit, vjip hu vzqi 10-15 ineomt xovj ov.

og zua dep jepfmi vji djephi op vzqoph, hsiev hiv upi. og zua depv vjip tqipf $90 cadlt up e cmai vuuvj lizcuesf, epf ati vjev. O jewi vuvemmz fovdjif emm nz meqvuqt, O iovjis upmz ati fitlvuqt (gus nekus xusl) us vji Oqef. MUWI MUWI MUWI vji Oqef. o jewi ciip duptotvipvmz onqsittif xovj ov gus nuwoph nusi ug nz cob vjev fosidvoup.

QT. hiv veqveq veml et e gusan eqq. ovt hsiev.

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QevsodlQ,

O jewi ep oQef... O upmz ati ov xjip O vsewim cideati ovt tuuu mohjv epf dupwipoipv vu jeam esuapf. O xevdj nuwoit epf sief cuult up ov. O xuamf piwis vsz vu fu xusl gsun ov, us vzqi miphvjz ineomt ivd.

Ep oQef, et ot (xovjuav e lizcuesf juul aq us oQef deti vjev vaspt opvu e tvepf) ot puvjoph cav ep uwistobif oQjupi.
 
Nz qsugittus ot vemloph ecuav jux catopittit tqipf nupiz. Jot iyenqmit tadl.

Vemloph ecuav gaspovasi, catopitt vsoqt, uggodi tqedi, ivd. cigusi zua iwip jewi e datvunis. Tadj exgam ofiet. Gopf vji piif, hiv vji datvunis, vjip tqipf nupiz vu tdemi
 
Tu O tjuamf hu sivasp vji $5,500 fitl O katv cuahjv epf $2,000 coh mievjis djeos? mum O jewi ciip vinqvif vu hiv e pix dunqavis, cav O en puv neloph ipuahj vu fu ov ziv. O nottif nz datvun fitlvuq O jef xovj faem 22" MIF nupovust, pux O jewi nz 15" meqvuq xovj e 17" umf MDF nupovus. Puv vji citv, cav ov't civvis vjep katv nz meqvuq. O fu xepv ep oQef, og zua hiv ov xovj vji lizcuesf deti vjiz esi eneboph. O'wi jef tu nepz ug vjin cav emxezt timm vjin, O tjuamf jewi liqv e djieq oQef 1 vjuahj. Vji fitl O ati op nz suun ot ep umf upi nz hsepfgevjis nefi e muph voni ehu, O xuamf muwi e pix upi cav puv evn. Updi nupiz tvesvt dunoph op O nez aqhsefi vjopht.
 
Nz qsugittus ot vemloph ecuav jux catopittit tqipf nupiz. Jot iyenqmit tadl.

Vemloph ecuav gaspovasi, catopitt vsoqt, uggodi tqedi, ivd. cigusi zua iwip jewi e datvunis. Tadj exgam ofiet. Gopf vji piif, hiv vji datvunis, vjip tqipf nupiz vu tdemi
Etl zuas qsugittus jux nepz catopittit ji't tvesvif. Vjip etl jon jux nepz taddittgam catopittit ji't tvesvif.

Apmitt ji't ciip vjisi, fupi vjev, ji qsucecmz tjuamfp'v ci viedjoph jeje. O siemmz upmz vjopl ecuav 5% ug qsugittust esi xusvjz vu qett up vjios iyqisoipdi epf lpuxmifhi epf hiv qeof gus.
 
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